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@@Jordan-Ramses Just cause it's looking semi playable doesn't mean it's not potentially a scam though, particularly since a number of other devs have cobbled together something real simple and easy for a trailer, or for the "game" itself (day of dragons is an example of something that's like, maybe half playable, but clearly buggy and missing features). All it does is show that they weren't taking the super lazy route for it.
My biggest red flags are: - No demonstration of melee combat - No working (driveable) vehicles - No environment interactions (jumping? climbing? mantling? vaulting? fall damage?) - Zombies not demonstrating the ability to pursue players (other than in straight lines) Where is the hording?, flocking?, pathfinding? - No indication of difficulty or progression curve - No player-to-player interactions (PvP, text/voice chat, emotes)
Ye, looks like your basic generic open world multiplayer survival game alpha. Also its clear that when thy moved the engines porting shaders and other solutions from the vertical slice was a no go, it looks like its still in "early access" alpha stage and there isnt really a full game. I expect even with a delay it will still release in a simillar state, all those games do. I mean its clearly real, but if this is the game it might have as well been fake.
It looks like a techdemo at best. Something a small team could create in a relatively short time. It's just simple AI and some shooting. The animations are so downgraded from what we've seen earlier that you can litteraly make more dynamic ones by watching a 50 min tutorial on youtube. But hey. What do you expect from devs supposedly creating this game in the arctic and on beaches with ultra slim laptops and lenovo tablets.
Something that's worth noting. The game was delayed at the same time as a trademark dispute comes up, but they still release a trailer using the name they apparently DON'T OWN.
@@johndodo2062 That may be, and I personally don't believe the trademark/copyright story either, but I don't think anyone has come forward and said why it was taken down. I would be very curious to know what the real reason was, this whole fiasco is fascinating in the worst way.
To be fair, Pants such as those are a good way to not be grabbed by zombies. Ofcourse makes it easier for their claws and bites to get through, those pants are a viable option for a fast and agile kind of survivor who wanna be nimble and run through zombies without being grabbed because you have wide pants. in a Gameplay standpoint, this looks like clothes to grab fast to have something untill u have better pants like BDU and army pants.
@Kasul the Casual that's actually a great point, i never thought about how animating skin tight clothing would be a time saver, but it makes a lot of sense
I liked the part where the player spent 5 minutes carefully crafting and inspecting their factory fresh Ultra Tactical Spec Ops AK-47000 with adjustable synthetic stock, tactical ACOG optics, suppressor, extended tactical magazine, tactical flashlight, and tactical foregrip only to immediately reveal that the formidable foe they're facing is a sparse and scattered population of unarmed, brain-dead, half blind zombies that move slower than an old lady browsing the soup aisle at the grocery store. It looks like you could beat this game with a .22 revolver, but of course that wouldn't satisfy the gun fetishists so they needed to shoehorn in a gun crafting system to trick them into thinking this is a real gameplay trailer. Also, these graphics are very 2013. If you told me this was a GTA5 or Tomb Raider (2013) mod I'd believe you.
I kind of wish theyd gone with weapon systems like Last of Us Multiplayer. Improvised and on the fly crafting, very sparse ammunition, and everything looks worn down. I guess it depends on the backstory to this, if this is days after an apocalypse then I guess you could find a lot of barely touched weapons and ammo.
@@bluemyst42 I have never understood how a game dev can justify using such brand new beautiful weapons when they are showcasing a game based on an apocalyptic world. Even today if you walk in the arms room of any mil group you will see rough looking weapons, and they clean them and take care of them! These look like they just rolled off a factory floor, every last one of them. Maybe I am a little bit more of a steampunk kind of person but I think that there should be more wear and tear on a weapon in a PA game at the very least, if not a lot of duct tape and zip-ties involved.
I can't believe, with all the talk of this game being fake, a scam, delaying it over the most bizarre reason the day before they were going to drop a trailer... I can't believe they put this together and thought it was a good idea to release it. I'm even more convinced this game just isn't real.
You mean something like "How To Make Porsche With Bicycle" / "Ferdinand GT3 RS - The World`s slowest Porsche in Vienna" from 10+ years ago on youtube? 🚴🏾. Honestly that was funny AF. Was made by an Austrian artist on Top Gear. 2 x 0.14 HP (Depending on driver) 0 to 3 mph in 3.5 sec Top Speed : 8 mph CO2 Emission : 4.02g / Mil
This should be called the day after. It's a game you play the day after an actual protagonist saves the world from the zombie outbreak and you're one of the few survivors who've made it. Running around a city with like 10 zombies in it where the only sound for miles would be the reverberation of the gun firing shows just how empty a world it is. realistically it seems like it's going to lean on PVP to make up for the lack of much if any PVE elements.
Honestly, that sounds like a good idea. It wouldn't be very exciting or even much of a game, but I like it. The world is already saved, your player character might've contributed but you don't really have a goal anymore, just finishing off the remaining zombies in your local area and surviving until things get back on track. It could be an interesting little look into life post-war, with characters who share their stories about how bad it was just a few weeks ago, and humanity came together against a common enemy. I'd like to play that. Maybe it could still have PvP or missions that take you into more infested areas for actual gameplay loops, but for the most part the main plot could be chill casual gameplay. That's a very idealised and probably impossible game, but your post made me think about it. Lol.
@@ectothermic Now that y'all mentioned it, it feels like everybody tends to try and cover/worry about the actual incident, but nobody ever seems to make anything that's just simply a "where do we go from here now that the catastrophe's over?" type of game. Arguably a gap in the market for that right now that others could take on, albeit an understandable one considering it's not where the heavy action is.
@@norrecvizharan1177 It's hard writing a story when your central plot thread is the epilogue itself, but I think it would lend itself well to an endless survival game. You'd need strong writing for it to be compelling, and also take away the feeling of redundancy. You'd still need a goal of some kind other than "waiting it out."
@Infinity Tea Lizard the problem would also be don't accidentally make the story your coming in after more compelling than the aftermath story. But it shouldn't also be generic. Lends itself to much to criticism of the genre for necessary breaks from reality for the game to work. A solution would be smaller scale problems and the "main character" of the last story is a character in their own right. A parody of the usual protagonist of the genre but not a mean spirited one. It's actually pretty easy to figure out what the standard main character of most genres would act like when not the main character anymore
This was carefully curated to show exactly what they wanted to. This game needs another year at least in dev, I guarantee they do another delay. The zombies were placed exactly where they wanted them and were not natural spawns, they showed little to no ai beyond "bad guy run at them in a straight line". This is going to be a trash fire
Yeah this is going to take a solid 4+ years. There was absolutely nothing here of value that you can't already get a better experience in another game On top of that, why would you even want this at this point? The developers so shady and vague and this trailer it's so bad. Please don't waste your money
Another red flag to point out: There are no tooltips, at all. When they loot items or hover over them in the inventory, the game doesn't tell you anything about them. They're just JPGs that can be moved around from slot to slot, essentially. Same with the weapon augments. When they switch them around, there are no tooltips popping up, telling you how they affect the weapon. You have to basically keep an eye on the stat bars at the bottom to know how they change the weapon. This is all really really fishy and feels like something they cobbled together in a few months or weeks to keep people hooked but honestly, I don't think an ACTUAL game exists here. This is just theater. But who knows.
9:35-9:36 there is a tooltip for canned food. Could be it's just delayed too much, whoever presumably was playing this did never stick in the inventory for long. Also before the earlier crafting scene there are explanations for the selected craftables to the right. Wouldn't those serve a similar or the same purpose as tooltips?
@@Lenariet Good catch, I actually missed the canned food tooltip. Maybe the tooltips are indeed on a delay? Would be a weird design decision though and would make navigating the inventory a little cumbersome. Same with the weapon augments. I wouldn't wanna wait for tooltips to show up everytime I wanna check one of them out.
for real heck i dont mind if the graphics stay zomboid-like but you get an over the shoulder cam and can change the camera to however you want. like.... take zomboid and recreate the functions in a ps2 looking sim..... thats enough to hype up the masses >.
What concept even? shooter with no gameplay in an empty city where the most exciting game system is an inventory and a 4 digit code guessing game? a game concept wouldn't care about graphics and instead show how the gameplay should look like. and this game apparently is pretty much ready to be released? sure ... just after the day I release half life 3 myself I guess.
@@AlixRocheleau It’s a scripted, on rails tech demo that they threw together last minute. I can’t believe that had a timer that got to zero, just to announce a delay, then that timer finished and another delay was announced before they stated the stream 😂🤣🤦🏻
I had never even jeard of this game before a few weeks ago when these videos started popping up. I think maybe the wishlists on Steam were botted. Or maybe I'm just out of the loop.
Maybe both. It didn't get an "insane" traction, mostly because of no streams of gameplay and such. They did showcase the trailer on E3 I think (or some other games event). But that was it. So you might be out of the loop, but not really your fault and not missing much.
So… did they get their copyright issue fixed? They’re still calling it The Day Before. I haven’t seen anything about them winning a copyright they never finished the application for
Dunno about the Day Z comparisons; never played it; but to me this absolutely looks like a State of Decay (2) Clone. Setup, Gameplay, Mechanics, Movements even Graphics... to a degree. Even some of the House/Neighborhood Structures look a hell of a lot like they do on some of the maps there... just curiouser and curiouser
They knew exactly what they were doing with the player model. It looks like an early access concept. And the simple ambience and UI is actually nice. But as we can all see, this is absolute bare bones... Good luck to those guys I guess
All those mods - and it didn't affect the actual weapon stats at all ... but on the bright side, they learnt to make sure the cursor was ON the zombies when they died this time ...
I can imagine them putting the trailer together and trying to squeeze in as much walking around/inventory system management as possible to try and fill up the promised 10 minutes of gameplay.
@@khandimahn9687 if you're talking about Seagal movies then yeah but I for one know what a suppressed AK sounds like IRL and this doesn't even come close to something I would consider 'fairly accurate'. At the very least, they could've added bullet echo (they're in a huge, abandoned city after all) to make the environment more immersive and maybe even less boring lol (and if you think bullet echo is too much of an ask, another indie zombie survival called 'Survive the Nights' managed to do a decent job of adding this and they had considerably less resources to work with
I know they had a lot of problems in the past but DayZ has gotten a lot better and recently had the most players it ever has. To me, it's not a zombie horde killing game, it's a survival game that focuses on letting the players have a wide range of interactions with each other. The zombies are there as an obstacle to make PvP more interesting and stop you from just running through a town real quick and looting with no consequence. I haven't experienced bugs like you mentioned in the past couple years. This game is only vaguely in the same genre as DayZ in my opinion. This is closer to the division or something.
on gameplay side it reminds me of the projects we whipped out in school for the game project classes to demonstrate that we can build a game with handful of basic features.
I'm with you on the not showing UI in these gameplay trailers. I get UIs can easily be changed, but this isn't showing how the game will actually look for a player if they hide that away. Plus we all know UI is important to the whole experience.
It totally looks real, go watch the gameplay. Look at the zombies all reacting the exact same way when the player rolls up, standing there screaming and not moving whatsoever so the person showcasing 'gameplay' can shoot them all. Add in nine minutes of walking simulation with next to nothing happening and you've got a real, completely actual gameplay trailer. (sarcasm)
Add to that the player when leaving the house turns left up the road, then turns left immediately knowing the zombies were there prior to seeing or hearing them. Heavily scripted, possibly "real" in the sense that it exists, but I doubt there is more outside of what they showed. Because if there was, they would show it at this point. Or at least show more than they did.
The world is very empty. There is nobody in it. No other players, no bodies littering the streets, no zombies just milling about looking for food or munching on a corpse. When you did run into zombies it felt wrong, not natural. And with no ui at all except a loot button showing up and then we get to see the loot interface, it feels like a fake game. Like this is all they have and they didnt even play it at that, we were just watching a movie basically a script run.
"The game isn't real you say? Just focus on the yoga pants....okay, that's given us like at least a couple of months of extra development time but let's just ship it unfinished and make minor improvements in a day 1 patch."
Nice walking simulator. Add the narrator's voice and you have Dear Esther, but in a city and with a gun that you use to shoot down those standing silhouettes.
Why is this game so hyped? Zombie games are such an oversaturated genre. Wouldn’t people get board of practically the same thing over and over again eventually?
It's always the same thing. A zombie game with no zombies... Guns and ammo laying all over the place in plain view. Buildings with almost no furniture inside them. I think I'll stick with project zomboid. It may be two-dimensional but it's hell a lot more realistic!
Biggest fear for myself that sheds doubt is the apparent lack of assets around, items like functioning cars, lootable things or areas, zombies, everything feels like its a "background". When you create all of those things and add them to a world it causes massive issues for how games run. Look at DayZ zombies lag depending on the patch there might only be 20 on a screen at that time, Tarkov has lots of areas to loot but its a "snap" shot type of a map where there are fixed borders, that has issues also because of the amount of entities within the map. This is an open world mmo? God help the size of the battleship server power you would need to support that. World war z is an example of that, yes there is lots on screen but most of the time its "background" zombies or they are a type of "mesh" as one unit that breaks apart rather than a single model. They have to release a demo at this point, otherwise the rumors will just continue to spread. By this point there should be a playable aspect they could release.
I think it's especially telling that this is supposed to be an open-world "MMO" yet we have no idea what the world will be like, how big the map is or even how many people will be on a server.
You should look into TWS next, it used to stand for Track While Scan, but now they changed it to Training and War Simulator. Anyway, they from the start are promising an entire 1/1 scale (or atleast something close to that) of the earth, with FULL fidelity aircraft (meaning very realistic, like DCS quality) aircraft, armored vehicles, infantry, and naval combat. They havnt done anything wrong yet, but they are promising all they things, and they started development not long ago, and were promising to get a beta out in just a few months.
I have heard it said that this game was just a marketing campaign for something. If it's not a huge joke involving Angry Joe not wanting to play another zombie game I'm giving it three thumbs down
Looks like the start of a vertical slice Though that is suppose to be somewhat feature complete I bet this game will come out It will just not be anything near what people first expected
One thing I find strange (but not impossible) is that while it's clearly a keyboard (it says to press F something) game, the character movement is not behaving like its using WASD. WASD movement "forces" movement to be based on 45º angles to the camera unlike using a controller. Now doesn't mean it can't be done. You can use root motion to make the character slowly face the direction and make a smooth transition, but it comes at a cost of the movement not feeling responsive.
I'm satisfied with this Gameplay to be honest. This video is not to show what they have or show any systems. it is to show off that the Game is real. They told us they were gonna show a Gameplay video of 10minutes. They delivered. Straightforward and Direct, with a small intro and no Outro. DONE. What they shown here, is basically the Basics of a Zombie Survival Game: - You Scavenge - You Loot - you Craft - you combat Thirst and Hunger - You fight Zombies (to be honest were verry little, maybe for Performance issues or something) People calling it a Running Simulator is basically summing up what a Zombie Survival Game is. Look at DayZ or State of Decay (who are Zombie Survival Games at their Core) when u do not have a Car. Basically 80% of the time playing zombie survival games, you are doing what these two players are doing in the video, Running, Looting and then if this video had a actual ending, Dying somewhere with a bunch of Loot on you and saying: 'okay i had a good run' (sums up the Life of a DayZ player). EDIT: i saw the HUD pop up a few times, soemtimes a STamina Bar, in the inventory menu, when the character was drinking that juice. I bet the HUD like health will pop up when u recieve damage. Final Notes: I hope this video is a Milestone for Fntastic to start more on PR and release more gameplay videos like those. We Need videos showing the Vehicle systems, the Survivor Colony (including Main / Side Quests), Housing System,... I want this game to be REAL, a 100%. But we need more evidence of gameplay videos.
@@empulsive4242 How so, i ain't Defending the Game. Just saying i'm satisfied with the Video. We got what was asked. 10minute gameplay, no commentary, small intro with no outro. if they were gonna show some gameplay mechanics, they would've mentioned it in the video title or description.
That whole video strikes me as "People are saying our game is a scam; we have to do something about that". Ironic, then, that their gameplay footage did such a poor job of dispelling that notion. At best, if this game isn't fake, this video made strides in suggesting that it's nowhere near what it's been touted to be up to this point. I'm actually stunned by how little this footage presented to us. At most, it presented the kind of atmosphere one would expect from a post-zombie-apocalyptic world: desolation, darkness, and uneasy silence, but in this case, all those elements did is make me think this game has very little to offer. Where's the communication between players? Where are other survivors? Why are there so few zombies? I don't want a big zerg-rush of zombies when I turn every other corner, but the lack of them was noticeable. I don't have any dogs in this race one way or another, so it's not like I either have unreasonably high expectations for it, or want it to fail. I'd like to think, however, that I know red flags when I see them, and this footage planted more for this game than removed them.
something about the ambient lighting in this looks really pleasant to me. Its not trying to be too stylized. Hopefully the game makes the world worth it
I might be nitpicking cause this is not a AAA company. But... yeah! Once the world ends, I will start crafting high quality equipment for my guns aswell! Good thing I Know the fine electronics of a red dot sight and how to prepare a silencer! Factory grade weapon equipment should be rare find in the game world and not crafted. Crafted stuff should be put together with duct tape, strings, bolts and hope.
To be fair, a smartphone would definitely be useful in an apocalypse scenario. Even without cell and internet, those things can be used as wireless controls, bluetooth hubs, programmable internet hotspots (local communication), etc. Even if it's broke, the internal components are useful. Receivers, transmitters, batteries, raw materials, etc. Other stuff? eehhhhh not so much.
What about the countdown timer that finished and announced a delay, then another one started then announced another delay? 😂🤣 And they expect anyone with half a brain trust them 😂🤣🤣🤣
There's a game out there called fractured veil that's been interesting lately... Was, I believe, another one of those crowd funded, supposed to release last year but now got pushed back kinda deals... I'm honestly too lazy to find out more but I'd watch the video if you did 😅
The lack of horde mechanics shown is a massive red flag for me. I can almost guarantee it has bad performance issues, its not hard just to just slap a bunch of zombies into an area to demonstrate it. I dig zombie games and play a good amount of PZ and L4D2, but this looks like its gonna need a ton of work. The gunplay, world, and inventory/UI looks fine, but thats realistically less than half of the stuff required to make this a good game. They probably woulda been better off not showing this honestly. You were absolutely right dayz is a running sim, and thats why I stopped playing it. Its only tolerable if u go to a 5x loot server with more car spawns.
The previous demo was an unplayable vertical slice, this one is a playable slice haphazardly thrown together in a few months using unreal engine store assets. I have nothing against using store assets, but others have noted that some of the assets used for this trailer only released on the store a few months ago. I hope I don't have to explain why that is a giant red flag.
I have to say, the ranged stuff actually looked really good. The shooting, the reloading, even the running with the gun all looked much more natural than a lot of games. I actually got pretty big Tom Clancy vibes from this trailer, both the environment and the animations. Especially the Environment, really makes me think of The Division. That being said, I wouldn't be running out to buy this anytime soon.
Nah, I always run right down the middle of a city that is full of the undead, sometimes I even shoot a 50 cal straight up while singing the national anthem. Seriously dubious 'gameplay' the FNTastic overlords mocked up. The gameplay was delayed multiple times that day. You guys should check the video of the guy 'playing' and turn it to .25 speed. The hands to movement on screen is hilarious.
