I am pretty sure you can build that machine and maybe the bed won't go to 200°C but that price gap is ridiculous. It has normal 3D electronics it is insulated but that does not justify that price.
Its 14,900 dollars , Id say that is just a bit out of the range of your average 3d printer. Todays video is on the Sovol SV08 and my next video is a 15k printer...Such diversity
I agree that this is not for the normal crowd! It's definitely geared towards business, but it's super cool that they allowed me to come check it out and make a video on it! There's a reason why you don't see many/any videos on this machine. It's because the businesses that own them don't make videos or can't because they're under NDA. So when I get a chance to make a video about an awesome machine that could do more than I have ever even thought about doing myself, I definitely jump at it! I hope you enjoyed the video! What would you Make if you had a printer with these capabilities?
I think it’s good to show such printers now and than to see what’s possible in 3D Printing. But yeah I bought a Snapmaker J1 instead 😅 It has a automatic X/Y calibration and a guided z calibration. Pretty easy to do. Only downside is I had in 3 months already 2 issues with it. Changed out X axsis rail and ribbon cable on the right extruder.
Its 15k dollars and they use the cheapest Meanwell LRS Power supplies without PFC-Filtering. Those would not even be Legal to use in the EU in homes as they are not class B rated. No idea about the US tho.
@@TheKeverin you only need PFC above a certain limit. I think it’s 300w. Don’t think this Printer needs more than 300w if the bed is powered by mains voltage.
@@TheEdgeofTech Could just be me but when I think open source I think like, any piece of info I could need is readily available. But there is no CAD model for this printer to download, there is no BOM so I can source my own, nor are there any instructions. They even said in their video about it that they developed their own proprietary XY motion system. Nothing except the specs for this printer are available to the public, therefor to me, and I think to most, this printer is not in the least bit open source.
@@coreypeacock9900 I understand what you're saying for sure! Pat, the hot end, board, power supply, Motors, etc. Etc are all readily available. We can get them right now If we want to. The board is open and not some proprietary firmware. I understand that the cad model is not available, But when it comes down to actual functionality and replacement parts, I believe it is. I will ask about the cad model because I'm curious though!
@@TheEdgeofTech I mean I get that but just because I can buy the parts for something, that doesn't make it open source... by that logic you can call a lot of things open source that simply are not. Yes those individual parts may be, but the unit as a whole is not. If something is open source, by definition that means enough knowledge about it is open to the public that it can be replicated or modified, such as Voron printers. No such information about this printer is available to the public besides SOME of the components it uses. Granted its my own opinion, but I just think that taking a handful of the components from the printer that are open source and calling the entire printer open source is very much a stretch.
@@coreypeacock9900 I totally understand what you're saying and do appreciate your opinion! I see it both ways. Aunt, I am definitely not saying you are incorrect. I'm going to bring this up to the team and see what they say. Again, totally understand what you're saying, and definitely respect it!
about time! As a former V2 user for a short time, the previous version was terrible and completely failed. Bed falling off the shuttles, the old version of the emergency stop switch looked like it was from an old computer, i remember the wiring on the back looked terrible, probe breaking first try, nozzle bent... I can keep going, pics on the facebook community support page. Glad to see that V3 is out with improvements, but until we have real reviews from other users, i would not consider.
Thank you Marco for sharing your experience with our 22 IDEX. Since your purchase in early 2022, we've made significant strides: Your feedback, along with that of other early adopters, has been invaluable in shaping the evolution of our product. We take all customer input seriously, which is why we offered you a full refund and thoroughly analyzed the returned unit. Your concerns didn't fall on deaf ears - they became the catalyst for over 150 improvements implemented over the past two years. Here are a few significant actions we have taken: Complete product overhaul: The current 22 IDEX is a far cry from its early predecessor, with enhancements touching every aspect of its design and functionality. Vertical integration: We've acquired Addwise in a significant deal, bringing manufacturing in-house. This strategic move allows us unprecedented control over quality and the ability to rapidly implement improvements. Interested readers can find more details about this acquisition in industry publications like 3D Printing Industry. 3dprintingindustry.com/news/vision-miner-acquires-addwise-in-a-14m-deal-231289/ Continuous refinement: The constant focus and hard work of our engineers and team along with your comments and others has paved the way for our upcoming V3 release. Industry validation: Feedback from aerospace, military, defense, and government clients has further refined the 22 IDEX, ensuring it meets the most stringent professional standards. We're confident that the 22 IDEX of today would exceed your expectations. It's a testament to how we've transformed customer challenges into opportunities for innovation. We appreciate your role in this journey. If you're open to it, we'd love the opportunity to demonstrate how your initial feedback has translated into a product that's now setting new industry standards. Thank you again for your candid review. It's through such honest communication that we continue to grow and improve. @marcozacarias1675
Jim, for now it is a little out of my reach and needs, but maybe someday. You should have Rob, donate one to be awarded in a Hot Makes show, that would really get viewership up!. I would like to see you make a death racer using some of the super strong filament, you would be unstoppable
This is a nicely narrated advert and I mean it in a good way. Please show us the quality of printed parts. The kinematics are dual Markforged which inherently cause racking. Markforged mitigate that by having dual linear blocks and using many machined parts. 22 IDEX is using belts on both side of the Y axis which I assume also eliminate the issue. However I would rather see an actual printed part at whatever the maximum speed is.
This is an awesome video, and I'd love to see the ability to quickly print flow fields for fuel cells and electrolyzers with different flow patterns and number of flow channels. It would accelerate optimization for high temperature and chemical application in hydrogen generation and utilization. Being able to do that with gas and liquid tight, base resistant, materials in FDM quickly would allow researchers to quickly test new ideas rather than just going to CNC. Wondering if this printer could do that with roughly 100mm by 100mm by 10mm flow fields with different serpentine patterns.
i would love to have one of these, how much are they? I would love to see you print some simple car parts and model airplane parts. Can this be used for home use? What kinds of high strength material can you run thru the machine?
Makerbot is the biggest offender of locking customers into their ecosystem, Ive had so many issues with them. Very happy to see such printers coming to market so I can dump my method x
Почти пятнадцать тысяч долларов за это? Очень деньги нужны? Немыслимая сумма, придётся купить эту копию у китайцев через год, за три тысячи китайских денег.
Not sure why you would need to go to 500C for any plastic a Bambu x1c goes to 300c that's 572F. The new x1e goes to 320C (607F) and has active chamber heating and you could buy like 5 of those.
Engineering grade plastics need 300-450c and build plate temps well over 100c. Bambu doesn't make printers designed for high temp engineering plastics, it's an entirely different class of printers.
😂 this is "Made in USA" No camera, No cooling for the Board, worst printed and cheapest klicky Probe ever, No Display, cheapest 5015 for the heat chamber and 15K for this thing.... Just lol 😂
@@TheEdgeofTech the high temp for chamber and hotend are a nice thing. The idex is also good. The suction is a good Idea as well, but should be included for the price. There was nothing said about the slicer, this should also be included and made for the printer. Lidar is also no included, so you have to calibrate like 5 years ago. No beacon probe or similar included. This is just ridicolous for this price.
@@rammiii2908 thanks for responding! Actually it calibrates itself with the click of one button. There is no manual bed leveling and the slicer they use I believe is Prusa Slicer. And the probe is included.
@@TheEdgeofTech how can the filament be calibrated without lidar or something? I don't talk about bed leveling. Where is the accelerometer? If this thing would be sold for "tinkerers" for 2k maybe 3k it would be okay, but 15k for a printer with technology from 2020 is just insane.
This is a rebranded AddWise IDEX. There are very few favorable reviews of this printer and a bunch of bad ones. Too bad this video did not show the printer in use.
"We are thrilled to announce that Vision Miner, a global leader in industrial 3D printing solutions, has officially acquired AddWise." - well yeah I can see that being a thing.
I agree, I wish I could have shown it working! If I had more time there, I would have definitely done that. I can assure you that I have seen prints that have come off of them and they are awesome in person! They just did not have any running while I was there. But I can fix that and get us some footage!
Yes! They acquired that company , and I met the Guy who designed this printer! He was from the Ukraine and he now works in-house at Vision Miner with them! They are not going to put out garbage, I fully believe that!
@@TheEdgeofTech I actually wonder if the bad reviews were of the older design where you would burn your arms. I could see that as an unfavorable review.
@@ottersdangerden I heard from the company that those bad reviews were somewhat of a smear. These units are wildly improved over the initial beta level units. Nothing like the old addwise version.
11:14 ehh. IDEX is on the wrong path. They give off "wE pUt CaRbIn FiBeR iN oUr BuILd PlAtE" kind of vibes. Didn't even hit on any points of the benefits or explanation as to why they decided on that build plate. The entirety of this video represents that very thing. A lackluster explanation; or lack their of, of what this product brings too the table and the problems it solves.
Yuck, it has slice engineering parts. Apart from that glaring fault, it looks pretty well built, open source and a well laid out electronics panel are both great, but there weren't many details about the motion system, speeds and feed etc.
Thank you for your feedback! I can ask them about the speed and feeds, but mostly this thing would be used for very high temp filament and you would want to go slow for that. But it's definitely good info, so I will for sure ask!
@@3dexperiments They do state this in their own video as well. I imagine its possible for a company to state a rating is one thing, but then later seen that a higher rating is fine too, or there could be revision changes, not that I'd ever want to defend slice, but that sounds completely feasible.