New ICEJADE SUPPORT?! Is This Deck SECRETLY GOOD?! 

Right???

Which is always a bad idea. Konami stop making floodgates challenge: Impossible

It is not skill drain. Skill drain negate effects so you can still use them on field and get rid of the monster on field with something like quick effect fusion or droplet and the effect will resolve since the monster isn't on the field when it resolve there fore skill drain can't negate it. With ice jade lock your opp can't even try to activate the effects

@fungi1385 Yeah, Curse+Kosmochlor while field is active is basically game over for the opponent unless they got some Spell/Trap to destroy Curse or the Field Spell.

Yeah and if grandma had nuts she'd be called grandpa

The one thing I'm confused about is that the opponent didn't go into Gymir when they had both Aegirines on field. With Tremora in GY, it would've let them bring back Aegirine next turn if any of the Icejades end up getting destroyed Yeah, I get that Ran counts as Enion Cradle on the field, but the tradeoff isn't worth it. It helps that Gymir can bring herself back from the GY if a Runick spell is fired off

Icejade splashed into marincess goes pretty hard tbh. This specific meta is pretty rough for the deck though with people still playing a bunch of kaijus

@@Omnipheles The Kaiju part is pretty spot-on, ditto with Icejade being format-locked. If your opponent Kaijus you, there's not much you can do except activate Manifestation (unless it's the first thing your opponent does, in which case R.I.P) I've had a lot of luck with Icejade-Ice Barrier, albeit the modern Ice Barrier stuff is OCG-exclusive right now, but Icejade-Marincess looks promising as well!

Tremora wouldn't rebirth cheng, it would have rebirthed another Icejade card, which would have been exactly what he needed, outside of being under a Max C

@SuperSilver316 yep my bad thought it was any water monster, but still they had plays like getting back aegerine and then playing of her search.

he used theosis turn one it lock you into xyz

I'd like to ask about the anti-Tribute part, but everything else is spot-on. If anyone tries to Veiler or Imperm Aegirine, you get a free water from hand too. Nobody knows what half the cards do, and Curse + Gymir + Enion Cradle is often times enough to win the game on the spot I've heard it being called a mystic mine deck, and while that's not exactly wrong, I still think it's a good rogue deck to play. The amount of times Gymir + Chengying + Aegirocrassis/Tremora in GY has won me the duel is insane

@@hyperspacesushi Anti-tribute was the wrong word, there are counter-tribute cards in the archetype. The more well known is manifestation's gy effect to banish your opponents card in retaliation but the continuous trap has the better effect of essentially: "if any water monster you control leaves the field in any way but destruction, you can summon an icejade from deck." an underrated effect that is commonly used to get aegirine back on field on the enemy's turn. So they could banish or tribute your first one only for another to appear shortly after for her search effect, still allowing you to use the negate effect of the continuous trap. And that also works for getting Kosmochlor or even Ran on field before adding Aegirocassis from hand or grave to Ran for her effect of becoming the field spell, turning her into the field spell if you have the continuous spell for the mystic mine esc combo. (as just another option if you already used Aegirine's search that turn)

@@lunarshadow5584 I get you now! Sorry, I thought with the phrasing, there was an Icejade tech card I missed that stops your opponent from Kaiju'ing you, or something like that. Manifestation comes in handy all the time, though for some reason, I've never been able to get Erosion online. It usually gets taken out before any of the monsters do (Feather Duster really is death for Icejade players-), but it always goes crazy when it does work. Still, I agree with every point you've thrown out! Icejades for the win! 🎉

@@hyperspacesushi That's why I play 2 of the continuous trap as well as have a few acti in the deck as her or tremora should always be in the gy to make the continuous trap an advantage, even when feather duster or evenly matched is used. (Even more important than getting the 3 piece lock together if you ask me as its the set up for next turn.)

@@lunarshadow5584 Oh, interesting! I only ever run 1 acti 3, 3 Tremora & 1 of the continuous trap, because I always assumed her and Aegirine competed for their normal summon. Maybe that's my downfall...I agree 100% that the recursion for next turn is worth it over the 3-card lock though, plus focusing on turbo-ing out the 3 card lock out can seem a bit scummy for most people, so uh- Any chance you have a decklist for this-? I'd love to see what you're working with, maybe work on my own deck a little more. Only if it isn't a hassle for you, that is!

You can make Icejade anti meta. Chengying alone can counter Kash

So it's not a good deck...

how about ninja?...

@@thestylemage2092 pure? no. it has solid cards but there is not much it does on it's own, other than a rank 10 and/or 3 card one sided amano iwato effect with maybe a negate. i love the deck but damn it does a lot of nothing.

I destroyed ninja with it​@@kindklan8020

The new support is not synchro, but whatever

It is literally free synchro 10

We need a icejade circular

@@casinoroyal93 we need more lvl 10 water synchros

....Its a bit overtuned(like any albaz lore cards). Its disgusting how its a quick effect banish þen towers all on its side. Also generic, again.

As someone trying out Icejade for the past month, I have to agree. Icejade when made properly can be a force to be reckoned with. All the lvl 4's have the same effect as the lvl 5 in the gy, the level 7's being milled would also be a set up for attaching Aegirocassis to Ran so she acts like the field spell effect when they have the continuous on field or in hand. which can be set up if a water monster you control is destroyed. It also has counters to being tributed by your opponent in the continuous trap or in the spell manifestation's gy effect when anything but destruction happens because of your opponent, allowing you to set up even more. It has every current meta effect and counters to those effects you would need but the only problem is no one knows how to set everything up. It could be milled with grass is greener, matched with tearlaments to get your lvl 4's and 5 to the gy or you could add the abyss fishes to counter banishments, or marincess to go into the links to get an extra negate. Hell, even when I used a pure icejade deck I was able to outplay a Runick player twice because of the continuous trap's help in using the negate destruction to activate the 4 and 5 gy effects to continuously have bodies on field and cards in deck. Even in this video, this guy's mistakes were not searching the continuous trap and not going into any other 7 XYZ since he was locked in from riseheart. Had he gone into something like tax dragon or gone into the kashtira XYZs immediately instead of waiting to synchros, he'd have been in a better position to beat over Coder.

you see it when he says “now we’re gonna play the cringe shit” at the beginning of the video

Hehe gayyy

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Couldn't synchro because riseheart's effect was activated, locking him into XYZ. which in that case, he should've gone for xyzing into something else like a tax dragon. But, my own personal opinion, he should've searched the continuous trap instead as that is a VERY underrated card if you have a tremora in grave and aegirine on field. negate and counter against being tributed, i'm surprised people don't use it more

@@lunarshadow5584 It wasn't riseheart's effect that synchro locked him, it was theosis. Riseheart only xyz locks you after you special summoning him from hand. Also he had manifestation in hand with tremora, there's no reason he couldn't have gone into a synchro 10 before commiting to kashitra.

That actually works? I thought the condition was that the monster had to be destroyed and if it didnt, nothing happens​@@lunarshadow5584

Goddess negates the effects of all monsters currently on field on summon and I guess that negate is permanent Edit: just checked that negate is very much permanent.

@@Yeshuah6 Interesting. I didn’t know that. I’ve only ever used her to clear a troublesome summon and to negate the graveyard. Thank you very much!!

Yeah the questionable synergy of just having Ran sitting there because you’ve XYZ locked yourself is not great. There might be other ways to run this but Kashtira isn’t it.

If they cant get to the Field Spell, Floodgate Continuous spell, and the Monster all at the same time theres no reason to surrender. This is why I like going 2 decks I have 7 different cards that Nuke the backrow

@FrostReave I don't play this game enough to understand most of the new decks they come out with. Every time they come out with a new deck that does too much, I stop playing for a solid week or two, I'm just waiting for them to drop the new yubel support. Any time Komoney xD

@@Xiu83 You dont need to memorize them just read the cards avaliable. If you stopped playing everytime MD has done a terrible job at handling balance you would never play which is your choice

@FrostReave you do have to memorize the cards. Certain decks have a clear pattern they do every single time. It's not just about reading the cards that are available. You can read a card and not understand the play they are doing. It's about understanding the deck and what it does once you remember the pattern. You have better outcomes of victory over the many losses you took, just trying to read and not understand fully. Every deck has a pattern play. Most decks have more resources to branch out into different patterns than others. You can read one card, negate it and then get fucked by the next card that branches off into a whole new pattern.

@@Xiu83 All that helps but not the only meaningful factor

I mean, everyone in twitch chat is like 10, so it makes sense they dont know who Skrillex is, he is before their time lol

Marincess boiii

@@mattlucero5034 this guy knows!

Longyuan 2.0

I, genuinely, think that most of that card and Gymirs wins come from it playing nice with Ghoti and Marincess

It genuinely is not bad. This player prioritized things poorly and decided against going into gymir aegerine for the normal aegerine and ran aegerine that does nothing on field.

Agreed

Icejade Ice Barriers?

@@cmcneil726 IceJade package with the new IceBarrier cards like Mirror, Georgius and the new synchro

Add to that deep sea diva being able to summon 2 lvl 10 synchro alone and ice barrier cards being able to set Adamancipator Dragite + toadally and it's pretty good By far the best version of Icejade I made, and I made a lot of them, adventurer icejade, myutant icejade, shark icejade (water xyz) etc...

@@fracazeri like shark icejade and might try mermail icejade after i build the new GG stuff.

@@snowygrass7866 mhm, I wasn't fan of the shark package but something like mermail might be interesting to try

did they banish your evenly?!

continuous trap is a negate for anything on board while also activating tremora gy effect to resummon anything in gy, like an aegirine that hasn't used its effect yet. It has sh*t, people just don't realize it because they focus on the 3 piece combo

@@lunarshadow5584even in the realm of pure decks with 25+ card engines, why am I playing this over for example Aroma, which has (and doesn’t even really need to play) 7 one card starters if you consider lonefire and one for one fair game? Ok tbf ig one for one is a 1.5. But you get the idea.

@@Caleb-zl4wk Play what's fun and I think Icejade is a fun archetype capable of more than most think. A major example is the continuous trap that has a powerful secondary effect to counter tributing, banishing or shuffling your water monsters to summon any icejade. And while aegirine may be the best choice, she isn't the only one as you could get kosmochlor as a 3000 def to block even 4000 atk or acti to draw a card by dumping tremora or any of your level 4's to use their gy effects, which would eventually trigger if your opponent can't get acti off the board another way. It's a fun and interesting archetype that has more than people are willing to test out.