NEW: Jail call between Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell where they discuss 'blueprints,' 'plans' and texts 

Chad seems to have the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old.

I COULD NOT TALK WITH CHAD. He talks like he is mentally slow. 🤦🏼‍♀️

The giggling is nauseating

What are these 2 weirdos giggling about ? 😡🤢

I would think the jury would find it so sick to hear them laughing while babies are buried in the yard!!

That goofy giggling at the end of nearly every line. What is he, a 12-year-old girl?

So happy to know this was his last day of freedom. Their conversation is sickening.

They are absolutely sick. What I dont get is how anybody could fall for Chad's lies ... The guy has the personality of a potato and the charisma of a rock. I guess all his gifts and his 100% confidence didn't see her getting a life sentence and him facing the death penalty!!!! This call is the final nail in his coffin.

They thought they were sooo brilliant; (burner phones for the win), but in fact they were idiots.

Chad always sounds like vallium. And theyre both laughing. Evil. Enjoy prison guys

Still can’t believe Zulema and Melanie and Melanie B knew so much and didn’t get arrested🤷‍♀️

Chad was trying to reassure Lori not to turn on him....continued manipulation

Besides talking in code, she sounds very angry at him through the fake laughing and he sounds like he is playing dumb to it.

Giggling, laughing and joking while children are murdered in horrendous way, Tammy’s and Charles’s life’s were ended. They are sick sociopaths

This was how the cops figured out that the kids were buried in the back yard. They really thought they were to smart for the rest of us to figure out the code.

If Fozzy Bear and Eeyore had a baby, and that baby got dropped on its head. That baby would be Chad Daybell.

This conversation is the definition of Cringe!

This is the nail in chads coffin

This is sickening, Chad is such a creep and a liar. So 😢 for the families. How can someone believe in this creep? How can his children defend him? Pray for justice for JJ, Tylee, Charles and Tammy. So many people hurt by this insane false doctrine.

WOW... Do these fools actually think detectives don't know what they're talking about...

Chad’s voice sounds SO MUCH like Warren Jeffs’. Disturbing.

At this point, how did Lori think she would be getting out of jail without producing the kids.

I hope he gets the chair, sorry people I’m normally against capital but he’s just sickening

These two were planning a concrete foundation over the childrens graves, thinking and giggling they could get away with this heinous crime.

To put it simply; Chad, and his children, seem like they may have some variety of delayed developments.

Chad told Lori he had been texting Alex in the next life. Lori was asking so many questions about that that Chad couldn’t keep up with his lies. I think that’s why he was giggling. He couldn’t think fast enough to come up with lies fast enough to answer her questions. You could tell he didn’t know what to say much of the time.

That he was claiming Alex texted him from beyond the grave and she believed him- these two are more whacked out than I ever realized and I already thought they were out to lunch.

Just when I thought I had heard, read, saw in pics everything there is to know about this case, I am yet shocked once again. Then in comes a call 06/08/2020 where manipulative Chad is telling Lori that he is texting and getting answers from her DEAD brother Alex and they are laughing and giggling about the whole "project not being done", and tells her to write him (Alex) and he will write her back. Crazy sickening. Well ole Chaddy you supposedly saw a new promise land, but you didn't see you both getting tried for murder? Maybe you can go into a portal in your jail cell and text Alex about that. Let us all know what he says.

Sounds like Beavis and Butthead.

I actually almost feel bad for Lori here. She knows the kids are buried on Chad’s property and yet at this time she‘s the only one talking on a jail phone. Still she’s telling Chad “I guess this was meant to happen”. Girl what?? And all lardmouth has to say is “muhrrrrrr yeaaaa I guesssss”

It's a combination of only 5 problems. JJ, Taylee, Alex, Tammy and Charles' deaths.

Did we just hear their first “lovers spat”? The most passive aggressive convo I have ever forced myself to listen to

“99% chance that this soil could be bad”. she’s totally talking about burying the kids…

“Your honor, asking permission to pass out air sickness bags to the jurors.”

Inner Lori: I'm jailed and hes still free. I have be giggly and feminine and keep this ligh or he'll abandon me. Inner Chad: i have to keep her believing this BS or she'll confess and implicate me. Moral Lori & Chad: a howling void

Chad’s voice sounds just like Jim Jones~ telling people “just drink the Kool-Aid.

This does prove that Chad is controlling and brainwashing Lori.

Oh good grief, the giggling!!

Lori was mad at Chad over a plan gone wrong. She need so much reassurance from this “prophet”

Yes… Imma repeat it… 0:43 Lori references house renovations. She says that she has been watching “that extreme pools“, and talks about how people underestimate how long a renovation takes. This seems to be her expressing that their own project has hit a snag and is taking a long time to work through. Chad responds very literally to this and begins telling a story about one of Mark’s friends. Lori ignores this anecdote and persists in her euphemism, saying at 1:37 that there is “always something that comes up”. She then acts as though she is quoting the television show ( 1:42 ) from the host’s point of view and says “well we didn’t know when we dug in your backyard they were gonna find… whatever." The pronoun shift from "we" to "they", plus the rise on "know" and the barest emphasis on "whatever" is just the subtleist little clue that what she is actually saying is that we (Chad, Lori, and Alex) didn’t know when we dug in your backyard (Chad’s backyard, when they dug to bury the kids) that they (the police) were gonna find… whatever (bodies, ding ding ding ding!). In response, Chad laughs nervously and shuts up, probably hoping she doesn’t say too much. At this point, Lori tries to bury what she just said by strengthening her comparision to the pool-renovation show and over-talking, probably thinking she’s the smartest woman created (according to Chad) and that law enforcement (who she knows is listening) is too stupid to catch-on to the veiled references she is making and the "construction project" metaphor" she is about to launch. IMHO, of course

The 3% they're talking about is what they estimated Kay Woodcock would create. Instead she blew the whistle early on and created 100% of their problems.

Wow! So awkward. And she sounds very angry with him, underneath the giggles. Fascinating 🤔

The sleazy laughter…love that the JURY heard this disgusting display…

It’s rather striking… both Chad and Lori were not working, and pretending to be an author and selling eight books a year does not count, they both were leaning totally on their spouses or in Lori’s case the kids social security money, and they both conspire to create this grandiose image of themselves. They are emotionally bereft and psychologically shallow. EVIL.

I think they thought Alex would still kill people for them even though he was dead and I wander who else was going to be killed

These two are incredibly bonkers.

Are they giggling about the graves?

It was obvious that they were trying to hide the true meaning of this conversation. 🤔🙄

How can Chad’s kids listen to this and think their Dad had no knowledge of the children’s murder and burial?

They really don’t have anything to talk about except all this crazy stuff.smh!!

Keep laughing chad....

These two having this conversation really confirms that Lori is questioning Chad's assurances of his "prophetic" timelines. But she still believes him. A guarantee of the "end date" of the project. Lori:. We killed all these people, so shouldn't the apocalypse start? Chad: He says it is all on schedule. 🤮

Talking in code. Disgusting.

They think they're so smart and so sly and the prosecution put it all together! Their whole timeline, their text messages and phone calls, literally everything!

“Ray” is in the contractor position. It is Alex. He is supposed to clean things up in the other side of veil but the project went south. They got caught. She is confronting him but is afraid to hear the real truth. He dangles carrots in front of her telling her he knows it will be alright and she is so beautiful….. Chad Daybell is a Mormon Charles Manson with manners.

He's called a SLUG for a good reason.

She definitely sounds so uncertain and rattled. I think she has her doubts and was scared he wasn't right.

Nate, when you interview Summer Shiflet at CrimeCon ask her why she did not include any photos of Tylee and JJ in that tribute video she made of Alex while she included photos of every other kid in the family. The kids had not been found yet when she posted it on RU-vid and she and her mother were saying at the time that there was no way Alex had done anything to them. There are also very few photos of Lori in that same video. Summer knew.......

The way he speaks so slow and low..creepy. he sounds very immature and definitely not much experience with the ladies. Tammy was probably his first. When he started getting attention from some of the wacky religion ladies it went to his head and that was the start of his false bullcrap. People were listening. He kept shoveling it.

This is what serial killers sounds like

I wonder who was in the next batch

Wow!!! Im listening to Chad talk and all I can say is "what a crock of BS". !!!!! Wth does she see in this duffas ??

I think they were laughing cause they thought they got away with it with it

Blueprints! Blueprints! Blueprints! When Lori talks about the down payment is she saying the kids were the down payment? That was the first thing I thought of. So heartbreaking.

You guys have laughed through this whole conversation of murdering your kids and plotting against it, which tells me that this is premeditated and if I was on the jury, I wouldn’t be stupid. I would just put guilty. You wouldn’t have to ask me anything. I’d be guilty.

There is so much here. So much code speak. Wondering if 3% was in reference to Alex, and when he (what I am now thinking was self inflicted) died, instead of being the 3% fall guy, it was now 100% Chad and Lori’s problem. So 5 problems they have to deal with… 🙄 The most important part of this call is proving that Lori looked to Chad for guidance. She was always seeking his approval.

I can't wait for Dr John Matthias to analyze this one!!

No more Hawaii for you😂

Nate, when this is all over I do hope you write a book! Debbi from WA

I’m just gobsmacked. They thought they would get away with it. Seriously?

Having six teenage grandkids, Chad’s emotional maturity is more consistent with an 11-12 yr old. They’re both so creepy and don’t seem to give a care Lori’s two children are buried on that property. In fact, they seem proud of it. I’m glad they’re so stupid.

Been wondering why he went to trial. He loves being the center of attention? When he gets the death penalty, he will call himself a Martyr. As if Jesus needs Chad's help to come back. How could she, or anyone, think that dullard was worth following. He is the ringleader for sure, and now everyone, including the jurors know it

IT JUST CLICKED THAT CHAD IS ACTUALLY PSYCHOTIC AND SHE IS A FOLLOWER OF HIM AND SHES ALSO INDEPENDENTLY PSYCHOTIC 😳

When they compare paintball gun to rifle they should not look at sides of guns but compare how they look when staring down the barrel.

This is exactly like the Emperor who wore no clothes. These people are so damn delusional!! 😂😂

5 problems… 5 deaths Charles, Tylee, JJ, Tammy, Alex

So he has been texting with a dead man. Who texts back. Wtffff

How do three grown adults murder four people, leave a trail of evidence behind like they'll never get caught? What r they thinking

Chad is going to be found guilty if he was smart he will plead guilty to avoid the death penalty

Disgusting. Like they have done nothing wrong.

The contractor misses her. He knows her. Cringy - Creepy. Two killers talking in code. Blueprints.

Lorie sounds pretty worried and is annoyed that Chad is saying the things she wants to her…..and making a big joke out of the timeline while she’s in jail wanting to get out

Secret Squirrel Code Talkers...

THE PLAYER GOT PLAYED

Giggling serial killers…

Omg, omg; they act like nothing happened, how are your magic powers working out for you Elana???😂😂

He's like a nervous little boy talking to a pretty girl with his giggling after everything he say's.. And then him saying everything is gonna work out?! It was shown to him?? Lol! I hardly think so! 🤨

The height of delusion and immaturity...they actually think they are so cool

So @ 7:46 Lori says “I know they wanna work on their project, and they’re not too happy I’m in here…” referring to Tammy, Tylee, JJ. I thought maybe Alex too, but the way they’re talking here, she hasn’t “spoken” to Alex, so I believe she is talking about Tammy, Tylee, and JJ. 13:58 Chad says “I mean we only discussed the matter with the trouble once and I thought we cut it off and we did well, and now, the problem is kind of causing its own trouble (giggles) but so… Lori responds, Right, but there’s other things on the project where when I’m going back over it, right, that I could have easily done or been inspired to do to avoid a lot of the issues that are going to come up with that. Chad responds…yeah Lori responds….that we weren’t made aware of, you see what I’m saying? Chad responds mm hmm I believe she was talking about taking out someone, such as Melanie Gibb, or Zulema, possibly Kay…however, at the beginning Chad said they only discussed the matter with the trouble once, so I think it was Melanie Gibb. It also leads me to believe that he is saying that Melanie Gibb or Zulema know exactly what happened. 21:12 Lori says “it will be Cholo and not solo?” Now, go back to the police car, where chad and Emma were talking, Chad to,d Emma his password was “Cholo1105” for his accounts. Also, Chad did his missionary in NJ, within the Hispanic community, look up the word Cholo…they thought they were gang leaders.

I wonder what he is seeing now? Tell me about your plans Chubby? How’s the blueprints working for you? Is the storm on fire? 🤮

So they were going to build over the graves of her daughter and adopted son JJ to protect themselves selfishly from what inevitably was coming the cops beat them to the plan😮i didn’t know that

They make me physically ill!

What is up with the tee heeing - chuckling at the end of every sentence out of Chad's mouth?

Chad’s laugh is utterly diabolical.

12:17 WHO said "that wouldn't be a problem". WHO are they talking about?

I'm sure Chad's attorney knows by now that Chad is toast LOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLO

At the end Chad tells Lori he will TRY to call her back and pray, but how can you pray when their is no act for contrition, how can God answer?

Oh I see how it is. Lori's mad at everyone but herself cause she didn't plan on her butt landing in jail. Good thing she doesn't have a big head, right, Chad?

It doesn’t take a detective to figure out they were talking in code 🙄 they truly thought they were smarter than everyone.

I don't know who does your thumbnails, but I love this one....