This is being done by California liberal transplants. Now their here in Arizona filing lawsuits for every little thing. It always starts with stuff like this. Leave the horses alone, Robin Silver needs to leave Arizona. He's taking up to much resources!!!
Patience is needed by the environmentalist who want to quickly dispatch hundreds of horses.. It sounds like the population control methods are working, it just takes time. These horses have been there for a very long time, and other animals have adapted to the environment with horses in it..
Proof positive that some people have too damn much time on their hands & just want to virtue signal to get attention. Someone slap some sense into them please!
Horses are like any other animal. They eat. And there's only so much forage available. Landscape might be green but that doesn't mean the horses will eat it. Horses compete with other herbivores too. Like deer. And don't forget about the parasites in the poop that gets into the salt river.
Horses eating vegetation reduced wild fire risk. I saw wild horses near rhe Tonto river being taken care of by a crazy Karen. These animals belong to Apache tribes.
@@blaiseaimee7098 go tell one to their face. They'll bits and rear up on you. They're aggressive and territorial. I've met them in person and it chased me down.
The horses were there a long time ago and are a state treasure. Plus they are on federal and state desert. They are lieing through their teeth! They are not starving at all! I see them grazing and there is plenty for them to forage on Plus they have a couple of rivers that they drink and eat from. Whoever is behind this is just trying to make trouble! LEAVE OUR HORSES ALONE! Go do something constructive with your lives!
I see no problem with a birth control method of herd size management, nor do I see a problem with people/groups providing additional nutrition if they choose to do so, but I do have a problem with outside interest groups wanting to remove the Arizona mustangs. Makes me skeptical about who this idea really benefits?
The only thing thats being forced is cattle. And those thousands of cattle are the problem not a couple hundred horses. Public land. We pay taxes to cover the BLM. Its to take care of these animals not eradicate them. People. These horses belong to the public.
These horses have family groups, stallions have "their" mares and as the foals grow they are a part of that family structure for quite a while. Horses remember who their family is, even after long separation. I think it is heartbreaking that many people don't understand it. Taking some of them, as when they are randomly rounded up by helicopter, breaks family members apart, usually forever. The world is on course to learn much about love and caring. ❤
I’ve lived in AZ my whole life and it hasn’t been until recently that there were any horses even there. They are feral and impact the environment unfavorably.
@@Yanoathese are the people we are up against. More California people who have never seen these animals in person advocate for something they don't know anything about. 🙄
Too many in a certain location can devastate vegetation, BUT it looks like the management group has a solution. And as the woman said, it's going to take time. That is a very true statement, since horses in the wild, without an accident, can live between 15 and 30 years, seeing a population reduction will take a while.
There couldn't be too many horses because we drove around the Salt River for an entire afternoon with another couple looking for them and never saw one horse. We were very disappointed ! The horses stay at the Salt River !!! Hopefully next time we go we will see a horse.
@@iclite3656 Ft McDowell Indians have horses west of highway 87 on the Verde River. Have been there decades. But on the Salt? No they are new there and where do you think they came from? DNA says Indian ponies. At any rate Wild horses do not exist in Arizona. All were brought here by man. That makes them an Invasive species.
@@trustmemysonisadoctor8479 Excuse ME, if it were not for horses....George Washington would have never won the revolution. All the race horses he had stolen from Thoroughbred breeding farms in Kentucky, Delaware, Maryland, Connecticut......enabled him to win that war and steal this country from the natives. And, what do the horses get for their hard work....NOTHING! They don't even put a horse or mule on currency...some over grown chicken gets put on currency. What did that overgrown chicken do to help George Washington....NOTHING! It goes to show that the more you do for government....the more they give you the middle finger. The less you do for government...you get rewarded for. LEAVE those horses alone.
@@trustmemysonisadoctor8479 Horses and their relatives originally evolved in North America, before travelling across the Bering Strait into Asia and further west.
the horses are ok all the trouble is others just hate them. so they make up stuff. In my domestic horses we noted the deer liked to be around them. I think the ones want them gone are just hateful.
Some people are poorly educated and don't know that don't know that horses are not native animals to North America, they are a domesticated invasive species introduced from Europe in 1519.
@@trustmemysonisadoctor8479 Speaking of "poorly educated" here's some facts for you.....Horses and their relatives originally evolved in North America, before travelling across the Bering Strait into Asia and further west. Now go do some research.
@@TreeLBollingTreeMan Who cares? They were not along the Salt river east of the Beeline Highway until very recently. These horses are escapees from the Fort McDowell Indian Rez. They are not native to this area and they are wrecking havoc with the native deer, javelina and big horn sheep. The horses hooves loosen the top soil and it washes away in the next monsoon. There is literally nothing good about man introducing this invasive species here.
@@TreeLBollingTreeMan HAHAHAHA.......... I needed a good laugh, thanks. I find it HILARIOUS that you think I am "poorly educated" and that I need "to go do some research".....you have never met me yet here you are making judgements about me. The horses that evolved in North America went extinct over 10,000 years ago during the Pleistocene era, they were not domesticated. The horses that currently roam North America are an invasive species from Europe that were introduced in 1519. Just because European horses evolved from the same species that went extinct in North America does not mean modern European horses belong in North America. Modern day Horses went extinct in North America for a reason, they don't belong in the wild.
@@scottleggejrNo, sadly it's quite true. The government leases land to cattle ranchers, who will often break the rules of the contract and damage the land by grazing too many cattle for too long. The wild horses are competition for the forage, so the beef industry out west has been trying to get rid of the mustangs for decades. Google it, it's all easily found info.
The reason they want to take those horses is because that will make them at the least meat price 150,000 for the amount of horses they want to kill. It is about slaughter and an idea that they don't have a right to life. It is about making money from them. The laws in America protect those animals from slaughter yet, the system keeps slaughtering them because it is an easy way to make money and they don't have to share the water with them.
@@Dog.soldier1950no there isn't which is why they are shipped to Mexico and Canada for slaughter. At least 250k American horses are shipped to slaughter every year. Large amounts are mustangs and failed race horses. Look it up.
Environmentalists go to the Allen Savory Institute in Boulder and spend your time and money on learning how to regreen these lands while the folks caring for the horses continue reducing their numbers by limiting breeding and pasture management.
These horses wull end up in the slaughter pipeline if forced to remove any of them. The inhumane cruelty of this industry relies on range land wild horses. Stop the slaughter pipeline and say yes to wild horses.
No species damages, destroys, disrupts nature more than humans. Always going after something, wolves, bear, list goes on and on. Yet, it’s okay to tear up natural habitat for the almighty greedy dollar. Leave the horses the hell alone!!!!
The Center for Biodiversity just can't let go of their obsession with these beloved wild horses, who have been here for hundreds of years. These iconic symbols of the West are being humanely managed with dozens of volunteers assisting. If we're going to discuss which species damages the river, go down there on the weekends and witness the hordes of people and the mountains of trash they leave behind. It's disgusting. If not for the equally disgusted volunteers who pick up after them, the river would be nothing short of one large garbage dump at this point. These horses fertilize the shores with their manure, reduce the wildfire risk by eating the dead grasses, and are declared "wildlife" by the State of Arizona. Thanks to the relentless CBD, the horses in Alpine, AZ are, at this moment, being brutally rounded up, family units split apart, and being auctioned off for slaughter. On this weekend's auction are 10 nursing mares and their foals. If they aren't saved by rescue, they are destined to become dogfood. Is this how America should treat the beautiful wild horse herds throughout the West? The majority of Americans say no. What this lawsuit would result in for our Salt River Wild Horses is a journey of cruelty, fear, separation from family and death. Those bringing the lawsuit are not the "good guys" in this story. They know what the results would be and they simply do not give a damn.
@650gringo Wild horses have been documented around the Salt River since the 1700s. They are protected by Arizona state law and cared for with the cooperation of the Salt River Wild Horse Management Group and the BLM.
@@karenwhite4461 Talk is cheap, "Karen" Show me the pictures. I've been swimming floating, fishing and camping at that river since 1960 and there were zero horses back then. Do a DNA check, those horses came from Ft McDowell. And they are Feral. Not native.
There's a problem with people who think feral animals should just be left to thier own divices. Feral dogs cats and horses deserve food water and veterinarian care. These horses are eating what the native animals would be eating. In the case of cats they eat the native wildlife. These horses are drinking that gross salt river water they tell you not to get in when the human waste gets too high in it ... thats cool for horses too
Feral cats have decimated the wild songbird population. There are literally species of wild songbirds that are now extinct because of feral cats. Feral horses along the Salt will have consequences as well.
The horses in this clip aren't the ones by the salt lol. All of those horses are sick and lame, half have bloat, clouded eyes, split hooves. Those horses are a mess.
If it's bad for Livestock to be raised in the Southwest, based on Environmental Science Concerns.....then Logically.....a reduction in Horse Population would also be necessary.
