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New M5 Competition LCI! BUT is an Old M5 better?! 

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Welcome back to RBR guys! It’s always fun when we have an updated automotive icon to explore isn’t it? The battle for the best Performance Saloon has always been a viciously fought one over the ages, and the most infamous champion in the space has been #BMW’s M5. Ever since the original E12 m535i or the 1985 E28 #M5 with the M88 engine from the M1, the M5 has been the benchmark for the performance saloon.
Now we have the LCI M5, LCI means life cycle if you didn’t know, to dumbest name for facelift ever, but on the face of it looks to address some of the main issues I found with the last competition, while bringing it in line with current cars in terms of tech specifically in the interior.
Things haven’t been easy for the M5 as they used to be a few decades ago. Recent history has seen the rivals from AMG and Porsche make things all the more difficult. New Pan Turbo S is a monster, E63S just updated with marmite looks but much improved suspension allegedly. Plus, I found the #BMWM M8 to be much more comfortable while having better steering, and things like the GT63S exist to make matters more complicated.
Now regardless, I really loved the original M5, with 600 BHP i thought it was powerful enough while maintaining the balance versus comfort that’s so crucial in a performance saloon. Always thought the E63 rode hard, until i drove the M5 Competition and understood the meaning of crashy!
Luckily, M have tackled those very issues. So while the power of the M5 remains 600BHP, and the Competition at 625, the main changes come to the suspension. We have new shock absorbers carried over from the M8, which remember we found to be much better. The chassis has also been retuned.
Now a quick look inside, and let’s hear the stock exhaust system!
So let’s explore the update to the most infamous M Car, with the new M5 competition!
- Rivals of the M5
- F90 M5 pre-facelift old
- F90 Competition pre-facelift
- M5 LCI Chances
- New suspension
- Engine cooling updates
- M Compound Brakes
- Exterior Design
- M5 LCI Performance parts
- Big grille new M5 render
- New M5CS
- Interior review
- Exhaust sound
- Full performance review
- Launch control
- Comfort and steering
- Conclusion
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Комментарии : 344   
@RemoveBeforeRace
@RemoveBeforeRace 3 года назад
Like I said in the review, if it was my money a pre-facelift standard M5, or more realistically the E63S from 2017. But that’s just Mr.AMG’s private bias talking! Carry on.
@stomic50
@stomic50 3 года назад
Here I am, with my 520d, watching this video for unknown reasons...
@TheNeil20091
@TheNeil20091 3 года назад
No. You carry on. That’s what we here for, your honest review, no fluffy pie in sky talk. If were my money that I don’t have right now I’d say the same or if money not an issue then look no further than mr p Panamera. As for the exhaust sounds, bwoy oh bwoy, don’t bother fighting it, that’s where we heading in this car world. Silent electric !!! I’m turning over in my grave before it’s even happened. Keep up the content
@nicklevin9321
@nicklevin9321 3 года назад
Standard 2018 is what I have and don’t regret it for a second. The power difference is insignificant (if there really actually is) as both cars run the quarter mile in 10.9 seconds. I’ll take a softer suspension every day of the week since I track the car once a year and drive it to work 200 times per year.
@craigmoorcroft950
@craigmoorcroft950 3 года назад
@@nicklevin9321 I 2nd that!
@alstound
@alstound 3 года назад
Pre-facelift E63S is literally a big C63S in design, quite disappointing when the midsize Merc used to have its own design language, while the C and S were pretty much small and large versions of each other. The M5 is also simply the more polished, more accomplished car. It’s ever so slightly better in a lot of areas.
@charliedg6297
@charliedg6297 3 года назад
This channel should have at least 10M subs. The quality is amazing!
@salalajko1
@salalajko1 3 года назад
The way Raz talking about performance and is smiling at the same time is unforgettable. Love your reviews and love your new m2cs and c63 as well :)
@Liberty-Works1111
@Liberty-Works1111 3 года назад
Love your channel man! You cover a lot of ground in a short amount of time. Some bling, some stats, some history and boom. Everything needed...
@imranmoonis
@imranmoonis 3 года назад
With the quality of presentation this guy does, he deserves way more subscribers.
@alb7293
@alb7293 3 года назад
What an absolutely breathtaking car. Really one of the best looking sedans I have ever seen
@RemoveBeforeRace
@RemoveBeforeRace 3 года назад
🚨 Ps. Don’t forget to watch the M5CS video that came before this! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z1uK9_tmO3A.html
@et7443
@et7443 3 года назад
You're the best. Finally someone talking about M performance parts which is huge factor for BMWs. Also, you could show us some individual colors which would be great to spec on a car.
@andilengwane3372
@andilengwane3372 3 года назад
This channel grew on me
@ESMorg
@ESMorg 2 года назад
It grew on everyone 🤣
@andrewblack4499
@andrewblack4499 3 года назад
Dude, I freaking love your channel. You the MAN!
@AuslanIz
@AuslanIz 3 года назад
I like your sense of humor and still amazing on the graphics. Amazing reviews and an amazing channel!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@Thelifeofswans
@Thelifeofswans 3 года назад
I adore the detail of the history given for every car reviewed. Best channel by a long way on performance motors.
@embakubmotoring
@embakubmotoring 3 года назад
You just got to appreciate Raz's level of detail...
@ufo734
@ufo734 3 года назад
This is an amazing channel, really valuable info on the cars being reviewed. Keep it up!
@paulvallins5994
@paulvallins5994 3 года назад
One of the best channels around ,good work sir👊
@jimmerwang4680
@jimmerwang4680 3 года назад
amazing editing work, just enjoy watching the video man!
@Khaled-Ali
@Khaled-Ali 3 года назад
Brilliant review. Level of detail, scrutiny, and transparency make it so.
@jamisonz3365
@jamisonz3365 3 года назад
To me the recent years M power cars really shine because of the competition models. Markus Flasch once said in late 2019 or 2020 that around 90% of M power cars are competition ones. The entry level ones are more like a marketing strategy just like AMG 63/63s. Not many people really want a normal AMG or M. When they spent similar money they almost always choose the best version. They would even think the power is not enough and have a tune. The concept is about 'too much is just right.' These car owners usually have many cars as well. I think if people really care about the daily use that much they will just choose a M50i or AMG 53.
@marcovanni1851
@marcovanni1851 3 года назад
The M performance Titanium exhaust option is a must to make this beast rumble. Good review.
@robin4046
@robin4046 3 года назад
5:31 holy shit 😰🤢
@fkhan577
@fkhan577 3 года назад
That should be on the 7 and X7 ..
@Herofmine
@Herofmine 3 года назад
In my opinion when it comes to performance and build quality M5 ahead of E63! Benz might look luxurious to some eyes but build quality isn’t impressive…
@troyahpak3719
@troyahpak3719 3 года назад
I'm actually glad there are no more pops and bangs from the exhaust. I mean this is an M5, not some boy racer.
@davidsalem2896
@davidsalem2896 3 года назад
Love your channel!!! ❤️❤️ Been subd since your M town video and love the content! Great reviews and super knowledgeable!!’
@daynevickers1079
@daynevickers1079 3 года назад
The only bad thing about your reviews, which are incredibly well done, informative and entertaining, is that I cannot afford any of the cars you review! That's ok, however, as I'll simply drive vicariously through you!
@ThePoolboy789
@ThePoolboy789 Год назад
short cut buttons are great, I have one set for carplay maps, interior lighting settings, audio tone settings, call me mum, set nav to home. great way to easily get around menus and do simple tasks. sad they are gone.
@jshim100
@jshim100 2 года назад
A very precise review in placing this model in the crazy competitive performance sedan segment.
@beekaye1496
@beekaye1496 3 года назад
This is the perfect sedan. One day soon i will have one just like this one. Cool review
@MotechPerformance
@MotechPerformance 3 года назад
Some good used F90’s out there now .. great job as ever Raz !
@JFP69
@JFP69 3 года назад
I love my 2019 F90 competition. It does everything I like and while it’s a little stiff i actually wanted that. It is my daily driver and the pops and bangs make it fun around other cars. It does scare people walking in my neighborhood! I am waiting now for a build date on the new CS. I agree with you - BMW always takes it to the next level and I appreciate that!
@duskiheja7784
@duskiheja7784 Год назад
After 2 years replying your comment. thank you so much, whoever driven this car said that its stiff and other stuffs, but you said its pretty fun 😂 i will buy if i have that kinda money for sure
@AverageDadOfficial
@AverageDadOfficial 3 года назад
Subscribed! Love the editing 👍👍
@goguhu
@goguhu 3 года назад
The M X-Drive is def. impressive. It can put down all the power and never feel like it's interfering. 2WD is only to giggle that you can put it in 2'nd and give it the boot and light up the tires. I never put it in 2WD any more ... all it would do is to require more frequent tire replacement. What's REALLY surprising is how many miles I get out of a set of 4S ... 20k and still thread left.
@PPGNI
@PPGNI 3 года назад
Top quality review as usual 👌I so badly want one
@TechInTheCar
@TechInTheCar 3 года назад
I agree about the suspension being fantastic. My video review back in October I commented on the LCI being the best car I’ve driven on my channel...
@Don-em4kc
@Don-em4kc 2 года назад
Just picked my 2022 M5 Competition up last Monday..it's has pretty harsh ride comfort...close to a 85 Camaro. 😆 . With that said it's an amazing car. Well worth the 14 Zillion dollar price tag.
@Blankadoodledo
@Blankadoodledo 3 года назад
You think pre-lci m5 comp suspension was really that harsh? Interesting. I have the 2019 m5 comp and suspension is not bad at all, and this me talking with NYC roads. The e63s was way worse, harder and jarring. The m5 comp is def softer. Now, the non comp m5 is a beautiful balance. Best suspension out of all 3 for rough roads.
@goguhu
@goguhu 3 года назад
I'm with you. I find it totally fine. More comfy than my M3 and 911. I drove it hard on a gravel road with wash-boards, and it handled like a charm (very impressive) and was no issue at all. Yeah it's not a boat, but it's not really hard in my eyes/butt.
@marqueswilliams1752
@marqueswilliams1752 2 года назад
you have an M5 and you drive it on 95, 287, and 684? youre crazy bro ahah.
@PrinceBarin77
@PrinceBarin77 2 года назад
Same - I was worried about this but was prepared to compromise. In reality, the car is absolutely fine and a long (UK) journey with the family this past week just reaffirmed that (my wife will be the first to tell me if she doesn’t like my cars!). My only criticism is at low speeds over speed humps and potholes - it can be a bit crashy so you have to really slow down - but it’s a tiny compromise given the upside of how well this car handles and behaves at speed.
@landenbeat
@landenbeat 2 года назад
@@goguhu What do you do for a living lol
@mashruhkhaled3457
@mashruhkhaled3457 Год назад
I actually agree with Ras. The ride in our m5 competition can be a little more comfortable in comfort mode. My rs5 has s much better ride. The 911 gt3 feels hard but that's more of a track car
@shayraaz
@shayraaz 3 года назад
Amazing video. Keep it bro. Your channel is very different to the rest . Wish you best of luck 🤞
@everythingreviewed1549
@everythingreviewed1549 3 года назад
What a beautiful car, great job with filming.
@docflyer4001
@docflyer4001 3 года назад
Totally agree with you regarding the jarring suspension of the first M5C. I purchased the M5 standard and put the competition wheels on it. Could not handle the ride for a daily driver. Darn I wish this was available when I purchased my car.
@stipepoljak1985
@stipepoljak1985 3 года назад
Great video. Greetings from Zagreb, Croatia.
@thehasinhafiz
@thehasinhafiz 3 года назад
I can't sleep now 🤦🏻‍♀️
@shariqahmed5637
@shariqahmed5637 3 года назад
I just ordered a 2021 LCI comp to replace my 2019 M5 comp. I did find the ride stiff but eventually got used to it . Looking forward to the new suspension tuning. the LCI is in black to replace the donington. Great review as always.
@av8743
@av8743 Год назад
So how did it compare?
@M5tubee
@M5tubee Год назад
wondering as well i have a 2020 m5 comp and i dont find it to stiff since i used to daily a fully built 135i that was extremely stiff. But if they made it more comfterable while retaining the same composure on the road thats pretty nice
@britanniabengals8638
@britanniabengals8638 3 года назад
Brilliant videos like always 1 thing I would like to say is chill with the multiple adds
@bengriffin5146
@bengriffin5146 3 года назад
Bowers and Wilkins exhaust system😂😂😂the savagery Raz. Love the M5
@DKhalil
@DKhalil 3 года назад
I'm looking forward for your review of the M5 CS. 😁
@incognitoguitars9999
@incognitoguitars9999 3 года назад
Great video!
@pylyo
@pylyo 3 года назад
2:05 that bimmer looks so freaking good, the mercs before and right after it are like jokes
@aftermathmathematic4175
@aftermathmathematic4175 3 года назад
It BLOWS my mind up how this car related channel isn''t the most subscribed channel on youtube.
@MarioScanu77
@MarioScanu77 3 года назад
Great review loved the overlay of the pre LCI to truly compare the differences ... do you know what the coil over option ride would be like ? ... I have an M5 Comp and I completely agree love the car but think it’s more jarring than it could be for ever day use even in comfort
@bonkbonk4793
@bonkbonk4793 Год назад
Excellent review and Excellent presentation. I think I'm set on the Pre-LCI M5 now. Its cheaper, only a tiny bit slower, Arguably still more comfortable and just as practical. Plus, it sounds better. The only downside is it perhaps doesn't look as new and it doesn't come with a "competition" badge. But I don't think that really matters for me personally.
@paulvallins5994
@paulvallins5994 3 года назад
Another top review
@van123446
@van123446 3 года назад
I've owned my m5 comp. for 2 and a half years,,, don't know what others are complaining about a hard suspension?? comp. is way tighter than the reg. m5 with it's many suspension changes...
@streetcat666
@streetcat666 3 года назад
I’ve had my comp 6 months now, got one of the last pre Lci cars having come from a c63s coupe. I think the ride is very refined especially compared to the c63. I don’t get why people think it’s too hard. Paid 82k too brand new!
@nicklevin9321
@nicklevin9321 3 года назад
I have a non-comp 2018 M5 and on the street I find it better to drive everyday, but I only spent 15 minutes in a comp before I made up my mind. The power difference is completely imperceptible and they actually both cross the quarter mile in 10.9 seconds. On the track I definitely notice the weight of the car so perhaps the comp helps mask the weight on track. I upgraded to the comp/performance exhaust, which is worth every penny. I don’t look at a comp and regret my purchase or wish I had the top dog, which is about to be the CS. It’s an M5 after all and is absolutely ridiculous (in a good way) in standard and comp form.
@usercs_2682
@usercs_2682 3 года назад
It is hard, especially driving on country road, not ideal as a family car. Standard M5 is more comfortable
@CarToneHK
@CarToneHK 3 года назад
BMW used to make sporty M cars that rides well, now they sway too far and underestimate how bad some roads are in some parts of the civilised world
@Gabson9
@Gabson9 3 года назад
5:35 that looks sick man.
@SCDC-Channel
@SCDC-Channel 3 года назад
EPIC car!
@nduki1
@nduki1 3 года назад
Hey Raz! I love your reviews. When will you be doing a review of the BMW X5 M Competition?
@benjaminpelentsov7303
@benjaminpelentsov7303 3 года назад
I own an M5 comp pre facelift, it really doesn't ride that hard. I love the ride, for me the ride is perfect.
@adnanhalim99
@adnanhalim99 2 года назад
How is the reliability?
@tritran304
@tritran304 3 года назад
Wow Raz, just seeing how your head bobbing up and down like crazy, it looks very jarring to me. 😳
@budokai910
@budokai910 3 года назад
Hey man, the special effects are really loud in this one! Great video as always
@cybergift56
@cybergift56 3 года назад
You Switch cars like a Hooligan 😂🤪🔥😂💪
@oarabilemolotsi7445
@oarabilemolotsi7445 3 года назад
I truly dont know why I used to dislike your channel. I'm glad I found the light
@taehokang2551
@taehokang2551 3 года назад
No one needed to know n cares but ok
@oarabilemolotsi7445
@oarabilemolotsi7445 3 года назад
@@taehokang2551 you cared enough to reply 🤷🏾‍♂️
@taehokang2551
@taehokang2551 3 года назад
@@oarabilemolotsi7445 I’m an outlier
@ardcanaytking838
@ardcanaytking838 3 года назад
I cant even tell which car is photoshopped or is really there! DAMN! great work
@mindmoldingprivatetutoring6955
@mindmoldingprivatetutoring6955 3 года назад
What a beast BMW fan boy forever
@gegabit-
@gegabit- 3 года назад
05:37 that is a ALFA ROMEO GIULIA QUADRIFOGLIO 😅 LOL
@chrisdavis811
@chrisdavis811 Год назад
Great review. What color is it?
@fmspec
@fmspec 3 года назад
Nice video and i cant stop laughing @5:30 lol...😂😂😂
@maherdaibes9344
@maherdaibes9344 3 года назад
my god the bmw looks so good just wow
@dieselEdge123
@dieselEdge123 3 года назад
Bought the M5 Comp (thanks to your video over a year ago), really don't find the ride that harsh. Maybe it's because I had a M4 previously.
@fizywig
@fizywig 3 года назад
F10 m5 in sports plus was more comfy than M4 in comfort. But in my opinion f10 m5 was right on the edge of tipping over the balance of usability and performance for everyday driving
@wuzumaki
@wuzumaki Год назад
I had a 530e before I got my M5 Comp, and I can't really feel any difference in firmness, lol.
@themangood1455
@themangood1455 3 года назад
I would have mine without the pops and bangs. Thank you very much
@slicklace
@slicklace 3 года назад
Can’t wait for you to review this against the new E63S. Must watch video!!
@alstound
@alstound 3 года назад
Spoiler alert: M5 will win!
@slicklace
@slicklace 3 года назад
@@alstound I think you could be right the competition tends to have more power. But which has the overall package I wonder. Both cars look good on paper. I certainly am a fan of the M5 just not a fan of the BMW idrive system but that’s just a small niggle.
@insayn7995
@insayn7995 3 года назад
@@alstound nope, both are great cars, it comes down to personal preference.
@Blackdimond8000
@Blackdimond8000 3 года назад
5:29 -- The horror, bro. *THE HORROR*
@alexc.7449
@alexc.7449 3 года назад
Amazing
@Engineer20201
@Engineer20201 2 года назад
Nice REview as always. Which one do you prefer driving, this 2021 M5 comp or the E63 in terms of driving and handling and excluding the steering wheel point?
@FusilladeDon
@FusilladeDon 2 года назад
I believe the revs were done with the exhaust valve closed, with them open there are pops and bangs, more burbles :| Much better exhaust note
@OfficialKman5625
@OfficialKman5625 3 года назад
Ya no. On carwow, Matt tested the M5 from 0-60. The M5 Competition did it in 2.9 seconds. Not 3.3
@lbaker_SA
@lbaker_SA 3 года назад
Good thing it has the old grill and not the new horrific M4 grill. Grill looks good on M3...if the car is specced in a dark/matte colour.
@badbadbadddy
@badbadbadddy 3 года назад
5:32 this can't be unseen. Omg
@lililiil244
@lililiil244 3 года назад
Let's hope, that the next M5 will still have a V8, a good looking grille that most people actually like and not too many screens.
3 года назад
Wtf
@NomadJedi
@NomadJedi 3 года назад
Really glad the car doesn’t have pops or bangs, hate that stuff.
@bimmercodetutorials5975
@bimmercodetutorials5975 3 года назад
🔥🔥
@kreigerbailey3550
@kreigerbailey3550 Год назад
Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!
@jklmnoable
@jklmnoable 3 года назад
Mr. M now! Congrats! You are now converted! 🤣👍🏻
@msbelindapls
@msbelindapls 3 года назад
When you chance the car, can you add in a script on the model please. This is getting so confusing. Great vid as always. Love your productions!
@KelbyGuzman
@KelbyGuzman 3 года назад
The stuff you like and don't like is crazy
@cigarjefe
@cigarjefe 3 года назад
nice video
@kabelonamane9914
@kabelonamane9914 3 года назад
I don't like the digital dials
@aurorajones8481
@aurorajones8481 3 года назад
9:35 I LOVE THIS. Stop saying its crap. They put the standard 5 unit in there and its real push buttons which normally id want but comparing the two by looks and operation you WANT this. It looks good and feels good and is superior to the standard 5 unit
@RemoveBeforeRace
@RemoveBeforeRace 3 года назад
Haha, just my opinion!
@SavedbyHim
@SavedbyHim 3 года назад
I agree. Some things just work. If it's not broken, don't fix it.
@DexxonGamer77
@DexxonGamer77 3 года назад
I think the pre lci looks better.
@fahass2
@fahass2 3 года назад
Damn you Euro bros got a neutered exhaust system....this sounds worse than a US standard M5 non-comp.
@YuvrajSingh0407
@YuvrajSingh0407 3 года назад
W223 S class review on the horizon Raz?
@armandoloureiro7158
@armandoloureiro7158 2 года назад
Amazing review. just one thing if possible..could you please tell us the year model, and when the car was introduced. For a fool like myself, i don't know if I am buying the one you are reviewing. you could be in a car introduced as is in 2018. know what i mean? great reviews
@midnightnl
@midnightnl 3 года назад
Love the videos but can you PLEASE slightly reduce the volume of the effects sounds? Listening this with headphones on low volume is killing haha. Thanks!!
@MalcolmKerr1963
@MalcolmKerr1963 Год назад
My fav saloon of all time altho I’d have it with the MK1 body circa 1985 combined with this version power tech and X drive 👍
@PhatTok
@PhatTok 3 года назад
You're right on the steering wheels Raz, BMW could do with being a bit individual when it comes to steering wheels, at least on their M models.
@nickpaech.
@nickpaech. 9 месяцев назад
i would get the old one just to avoid the blue eyeliner
@peterwood2633
@peterwood2633 3 года назад
I think the 550i appeals as the real powerful daily/family cruiser, rear wheel steer, glass roof. If you've got a sports car you don't need an M5 comp. If you don't then it makes sense as an all in one car. How many you'd really see being exploited down B roads, I have my doubts Vs smaller nimbler cars.
@alstound
@alstound 3 года назад
The M550i is plenty good, with even better colour and wheel options than the M5. It’s also the only V8 midsize German saloon where you don’t have to resort to the full M, AMG or RS treatment. It also rides better than its faster sibling. You can’t go wrong with this car, but £30,000 more buys you arguably the best petrol four-door right now. It’s up to you.
@peterwood2633
@peterwood2633 3 года назад
@@alstound got an M2 hence comments above.
@darrell9616
@darrell9616 3 года назад
I really struggle with the purpose of this car. I would never take such a big, heavy car to a track. So, the M5 is lost on me. At this price range new, it makes more sense to me to buy a proper sports car and a solid GT cruiser. This car is beyond overkill for a daily driver especially in the US where you can't come close to ever approach its limits.
@timasani1
@timasani1 7 месяцев назад
I have this car and 2 other sports cars I have a c63 and a 15 sl 550 with a tune and fbo with pures on it but I love my m5
@VRSProductionsInc
@VRSProductionsInc 3 года назад
Wow never been THIS early
@donyakusa9187
@donyakusa9187 3 года назад
This facelift looks good.
@cockapockets
@cockapockets 8 месяцев назад
the reason it looks like the 90s is because the 90s was the best years lol
@puffgod2691
@puffgod2691 Год назад
i love how you hate the other body style bc i hate it too
@Dan-re7go
@Dan-re7go 2 года назад
Check your tyre pressures. If the car is partially loaded, reduced the pressures accordingly.
@13783021
@13783021 3 года назад
I'm looking forward to your review of the upcoming new C63 when its released.
@307skylake7
@307skylake7 3 года назад
What if it would be called the C45? Or C35?
@13783021
@13783021 3 года назад
@@307skylake7 The Current C43 will be replaced with an entry level C53 on the AMG C Class Line.
@307skylake7
@307skylake7 3 года назад
@@chanyhcolin Agh what a shame. I always found the ‘63’ to sort of hold the V8 moniker rather than a stupid 4 popper. It is what it is tho, thanks for letting me know!
@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr
@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr 3 года назад
Rip c63 v8..
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