New MMO with ULTRA REALISTIC Graphics "Pax Dei" TRAILER [UE5] | Asmongold Reacts 

or be a p2w grindfest

Or die a quick death once people realize that new content is years away because of all the time they'll have to spend making the assets.

Or watch fail 3 months in because of garbage devs and cheaters

Forget the graphics, they want it to be "social sandbox", which won't work. The whole "players run their own towns and villages" thing is gonna be a shitfest. Edit: Unless it's heavily restricted.

Or lack any fun elements. Gameplay > graphics.

Then you got the very stylized MMO's that look promising that just get cancelled or 6 or 8 years to be in work in progress.

Well and it’s also just plain silly to keep trying for ‘ultra realistic’ graphics. Remember a few years back when ppl still bought tv’s and ultra HD 4k blah blah blah was all the rage? And then immediately everyone realized it actually sucks to watch anything in that level of HD. Stylizing game graphics to be somewhat realistic but still flow beautifully like in RD2 or Witcher 3 is where it’s at.

no one cares about mmos anymore basically dying off just like rts

@@mrs.h2725 who thought watching games/movies in 4K sucked ? i love my LG Oled

p2w? if this was developed by asian developers sure, but you forget that games developed in the west (in this case in EU) are not really pay 2 win. The other actual and more accurate issue i see that lots of promises made, but this most likely going to come out as a Rust in Medieval setting with more stuff probably, if it doesnt get canceled

Watch their latest video introducing the team. Very driven and professional. Excited to share what they’ve produced for us all

This literally just happened with Hi-fi Rush

@@TheRealBillix A lot of AA-tier games do this all the time. Something relatively simple and visually appealing that isn't too graphically demanding or large-scale in dev budget, so they can sneak it out and have it become a sleeper hit. But you're right that we don't see this with MMOs, because they're structured different and they need waaaaay more testing, so usually we get the hype train started with those about a couple of years in advance, leading up to an alpha test, an open beta, and then finally live (also they need to populate the worlds so during live the game actually feels like a living breathing universe, even though a year or two later it will be a ghost town in most cases).

@@Ruboto He means a real game not something you play 5 hours and stop.

@@billywashere6965 No no they really dont not at all, they hype them for a year and it lets everyone down is what they reaally do.

It's just smart to have a closed beta with players testing it for an MMO. They're free, they have a variety of hardware configurations and an ability to stress test a server, and they'll try to find exploits and abuse the in-game economy and level up systems.

When this is officially launched I am fairly certain that the 4090 barrier will be right there in that "average affordable zone" for most people. By then I'm sure a lot of PC gamers will be rocking 5090s or whatever comes after for those wealthy kats dropping 2k on a video card. This thing feels years off.

Absolutely agreed. I loved Tera and Black Desert for their graphics and combat, which at least separated them from the horde. But it seems like every other new MMO coming out is either a generic TPS looter-shooter or a generic medieval-fantasy grindfest. Now this isn't to rant against looter-shooters or grindfests, some of my favourite games include Borderlands 1 & 2 and MMOs like Dark Eden. But at the same time, newer games need to leverage more than just graphics and dated loops to be appealing, otherwise I can just stick with the old, tried, and true MMOs from the past.

This seems like there's a whole system in place for an AI to take up the mantle of design and keep the world expanding in a realistic manner.

I think what we are seeing right now is that its arbitrary to generate incredible graphics and assets / gameworld. Even just starting with unreal engine and a bunch of high quality models, you are already blowing every previous game out of the water graphically, and in the potential scale of the world. So I think we need to stop valuing graphics as much. If graphical fidelity was a currency, its rapidly being devalued to the point of being worthless. The hard part, is making the systems of gameplay compelling- which most of these struggle with- or to add depth in your interaction with that world, like you are talking about... That could be a space I hope that AI can be truly disruptive.

Imagine an rpg with "alive" ai. Npcs that can found towns, elect government officials, declare and fight wars. Everyone's copy could be completely different. Sounds far-fetched, but dwarf fortress kind of took the first steps in a way. I think we'll see something like that in our lifetimes

With ai advancing we’re going to get a sludge of soulless, ai generated, generic games, yeah can’t wait.

@@italianspiderman5012 we already have those without ai, friend.

Exactly lol, there is absolutely nothing special about this at all.

this.

They arent producing anything here, what they showed is the absolute base of the base, and they are acting as if it's some new special game. This is more of a UE5 showcase than a game showcase, since it literally says "Look how great stock assets look with the new Lumen lighting system". The devs did nothing except put some pieces together, make the map, and make animation sequences.

Life is feudal the SOON simulator ...

Star Wars Galaxies

Yep, it's why I'm drawn to a lot of those kind of games.

Indie doing big-scale MMO without any real financial backing? Nah...

That's the problem when you have a design platform that sort of throws a lot of cool features in your lap. You see a lot of "me too" style games appearing from a lot of studios. It's nice that Unity and UE5 offer a lot of ready made assets from the user marketplace, but I also see so many of these games coming out looking like asset flips. It's kind of a major turnoff when you boot up a game and can recognize some of the assets from the aseet store. It cheapens the experience (for me anyway). I understand for small teams they don't want to spend the resources/budget redesigning an art-style from scratch, but when every upcoming UE5 game is making use of material layers, material shaders, and a lot of built-in IK and lighting systems, you start seeing some games and it begins to feel like deja vu.

LOL no... it's not a strong foundation for big MMOs. It has MAJOR entity caps, big problems with procgen environmental height maps, and frequent crashes when you pair Lumen with certain design infrastructures. It's literally one of the worst choices for a big open-world MMO, even though with 5.1 they added 64-bit floating point precision. They need a complete networking overhaul and to gut a lot of the needless bloat in the engine to optimize it for a large scale MMO, it's precisely why there are ZERO large-scale MMOs made in Unreal Engine.

@@billywashere6965 what? i thought UE is ready for Online play, because AoC use them. and yea lumen isnt perfect. but the LoD thing and Nanite is huge leap.

@@dhafalriblain3494 as the dude above said there are huge problems with using ue5, there are many more he did nto talk about, as such cool stuff they added in that you brought up, you will see these mmos crash and burn so quick because such complex open world games need engine fine tuning on the devs end, and guess what? they dont have that control, epic does, its the massive con you come into when dealing with someone elses engine, you find an issue you cannot fix or get around on your end, it would take epic to fix it and with how many people using the engine and also coming into a shit ton of issues, depending on the problem it can take a year to 10 years to be fixed, eg a shader/assest stuttering issue that has been present in UE for 10+ years has only been fixed with ue5.1, there is a reason big studios use their own in house engine as if they come into a problem and they can fix it (the fix can also fuck other things btw) they can do this fast and efficently while also getting round any other problems that can pop up and can also change small design choices quickly due to the control they have and if something did not work or not.

@@dhafalriblain3494 Online play =/= MMO. A lot of games use Unreal Engine for online lobbies and basic network play, but there are no massive online games with thousands of players in the same instance running on Unreal because it can't handle that. Most MMOs using Unreal use a lot of instanced lobbies to separate players by region, session, etc. Ashes of Creation is using Unreal Engine 5, but they, too, have to gut it and expand it to get it to do what they need, which is why it's taking so long, because overhauling an engine is not easy, and you need bespoke networking solutions that hook into the core engine tech to optimize it and make it work. That's what CIG had to do with the CryEngine 3 (so much so, they now call it the Star Engine). You will see similar results from Ashes of Creation as they have to expand and rework the Unreal Engine 5 to suit their needs, because out of the box it's not built for that.

@@dhafalriblain3494 Online playdoesn't necessitate MMO infrastructure. A lot of games use Unreal Engine for online lobbies and basic network play, but there are no massive online games with thousands of players in the same instance running on Unreal because it can't handle that. Most MMOs using Unreal use a lot of instanced lobbies to separate players by region, session, etc. Ashes of Creation is using Unreal Engine 5, but they, too, have to rework it and expand it to get it to do what they need, which is why it's taking so long, because overhauling an engine is not easy, and you need bespoke networking solutions that hook into the core engine tech to optimize it and make it work. That's what CIG had to do with the CryEngine 3 (so much so, they now call it the Star Engine). You will see similar results from Ashes of Creation as they have to expand and rework the Unreal Engine 5 to suit their needs, because out of the box it's not designed specifically for that.

PERIOD .

The devs said it - Divine Peace. I believe they were referring to a power in the central valley because they said if you can leave the area of the divine peace to set out for more adventures.

This. Ashes of Creation is going through those testing pains and teething issues at this very moment, and it's why it's taking so long to get the foundations laid for that game and it doesn't look anywhere near as good as Pax Dei. Also, even with just 300 players, Ashes ran into some major frame-rate issues. Either this Pax game is going to have to limit instances to 50 - 100 players, or they're going to have to pull out some massive wizardry to have a single-shard with thousands of players in it.

@@billywashere6965 "and it's why it's taking so long to get the foundations laid for that game" this is due to using someone elses engine, the reason studios use their own in house engine is so they can fix such issues, and they can do it quick and if it breaks something else they can get around that fast and actually fix the problems, with unreal you cant do that, its up to epic to fix and them doing so can fuck up other things included in your current game build, tbh ue is not really suited for these types of games (its getting better in that regard but its nowhere near it yet) if they need something fixed they need to rely on epic to do so, and it can take epic anywhere from a year to 10 years to fix, people forget how many studios are using the engine and how many different issues pop up with epic doing their best to fix these issues that also them doing so can make other issues pop up, its why alot of these open world ue games take so long to make and why so much gets scrapped, and why alot of the big studios use their own in house engines so they dont run into all these problems i listed and a ton more

@@CoCo.-_- this, people think ue5 automatically makes the game 10x. While it may look pretty, you don't wanna actually play it when you see the kinds of bugs that popup after 5 minutes of gameplay.

When it becomes an MMO the graphics will be scaled down and everything will be shards of 10-15 people.

@@CoCo.-_- Exactly. Well said. PUBG ran into the same problems, and they had to rely on epic to optimize UE4 so it could handle 100 players in the same instance.

This *might* be on par with Star Citizen, the graphics are definitely possible for an mmo

@@fffx2 you are comparing a studio backed with 500mil(that still struggles with a this game to make it work) with a no name studio? you good?

@@fffx2 I’m not sure on this, that “in-engine” render was a lot more impressive than star citizen gameplay, and those scenes r more challenging. Don’t think the marginal return for better graphics is worth it for a mmo

​@@Fuzzycat16why

It wont. Never does.

@@BongSwansong yeah that's probably the case haha

Sons of Mars 🦅

A based mmo? Count me in 🤠

If its Latin, its pronounced exactly the way its written. Pax Dei.

@anttkal except he mispronounced it and then said it wrong multiple times and explicitly stated he didn't know how to say it and that it was a weird name. It's not, it makes perfect sense, given its primary and secondary meanings, and I provided the phonetics. Also, how letters are produced in Latin are totally different even while represented by the same alphabetical characters, so what you said doesn't make sense in context.

@@formdoggie5 Bruh I don't know who "he" is, I guess Asmon, but I'm referring to what you said. In Latin, most words are pronounced the way they're written. Exceptions include, but are not limited to words like, puellae which equals puele, or populusque which equals populuskve. Not poo-ell-ay or whichever way English speakers would butcher Latin words.

@anttkal except thats not true at all. Dei = day (dey-ee) being a perfect example. Don't even get me started on W's or Caesars.

@@formdoggie5 Again, that's how an English speaker pronounces it. A Roman dude 2000 years ago pronounces it 'Dei'.

Its a trailer, how can you say the graphics look good from a video edited trailer

@Haltzo BE what are you blethering about? Its a game trailer, its designed to show you the game - maybe not the finished article but a rough idea

Unreal Engine 5 is incredibly efficient for the visuals you can put out. Once more games start to use it, you will see many that run on moderate hardware and look astounding.

As someone who works in UE5, they’re doing the right things from what I can see

Talk is cheap

That's what the new engines job is - to reduce the work. It's not actually to increase quality, that is a bi-product of time saved.

They literally only showed a shell. Their team apparently is more level designers than actual developers, since the functionalities we saw where very hollow and often faulty, faulty on a level where you can see which stage of development they are on: At the very start. I am a UE5 dev myself, thus I am qualified to make this statement.

By the time it comes out everyone will have upgraded their systems once or maybe even twice.

UE5 is getting more popular. One of the first big games on it is Black Myth Wukong. We need wait

Lol I was thinking the same, is he in this? Because i don't get where the hope is comino from...

and dents/damage would be visually affected with repair kits

Devs from Eve and yet they cant even make the walking animation not glitch out for their trailer? Weak from them.

@@stevveLP walking animation has nothing to do how the core game is. and how EVE is and been doing, i have more faith that they can make a game that can sustain itself. talking about animations is pretty weak

@@boomcat1337 i am a dev myself, not being capable of getting something basic as the walking animation to transition fluently for a trailer where you show off 0 mechanics besided shit you can pull from the asset store is super weak. You can fanboy for them if you want to, doesn't change that the work they have shown is the opposite of impressive.

@@stevveLP then show me your work so i can see how its done.. people who has to let people know that they work as for example "devs" typical has nothing to show for it. but ill try again so you can maybe understand, animation has nothing to do with what the core game would be, they have the knowledge and exp from making Sandbox. they showed some basic stuff about the game, and there vision, that is what the trailer is about, and then we can take into account that they have exp with making sandbox mmo.. so im really excitet to see your work now

@@boomcat1337 guess why many devs have nothing to show for it? I am bound by contract to not leak the game I am working on. You don't have to believe it, you will believe it when the game disappoints eventually.