NEW ONEWHEEL GT-S Series // is it worth $3,200??? 

So they didn't address any community concerns regarding transparency and right to repair, but they're releasing another more expensive GT. Wow. I think I'm going with Floatwheel.

$3200! Now that’s insane. That’s EUC territory. And EUC’s will blow that wheel away.

$3200... shhhheeeeeshhh. Seems pricey for a overall smaller battery pack. The new motor better be gold because competition is heating up. I think $2,800 would have been a better price point. I also noticed the GT and Pint X each took a $100 jump, but inflation is real (I guess). I'll probably stick with the VESC build. Could you imagine spending $3200 on board without the right to repair it yourself? Yikes.

I love Jeff. He’s just a great dude.

The best part of this video is that gorgeous Husky. He or she was rolling around playing, and had no care in the world about the new GTS!

$3200 is almost as much as my buddy's electric dirt bike (i think about 4500)! Honestly, for that much money I'm going with the bike... It's got a conversion kit to turn it into a snow bike too! This does seem awesome, but with the other boards you guys have been showing, I'm still skeptical. Can't wait to see the videos you guys do on this thing, cuz I'm kinda secretly hoping the competition is better anyway

Something Vesc has that FM will never... is right to repair

40 miles per hour wipe outs? Carnage.

$3,200 is crazy lmao. You can get high end EUCs that do 50 mph and give you 50 mile range. Specs don’t add up..

Every model change just bump up the price by a thousand. - FM probably

I really want to see a GT-S vs Floatwheel ADV vid. I was so impressed with the torque and ease of curb nudge with the ADV. And if the motor will be as loud (I like loud lol).

FM is high as hell charging that much. Seriously. I spend a lot on my hobbies, whether its building high end pc's, motorcycles, guns, but this price point just boggles the mind.

Really happy to see this come out of FM. This is perfect for races because you don't typically need range at a race, just high performance for a short duration. Still though, history has proven that it will become more restricted over time whenever they feel like dropping another forced update. What do you guys think, 6 more months or a whole year before the next "Series" model comes out with the 6" hub?

Gonna be really interesting to see how much traction this board actually gets. $3200?? Floatwheel ADV Pro is under $2k, for $3200 you could get 2x suspension EUCs. Like, a pair of V11s or Masters on sale with double the range and power. $3200 you could buy an XR, replace literally all the parts to customise the snot out of it as a VESC, and still have cash to splash. Heck, you could buy a stock GT and VESC it for that money. That's Patton, T4, S22 Pro price bracket. Nuts. My prediction is you're gonna see ORL guys who don't wanna ride Open running these, and not many other people.

"they never let me in the front doors once, they're not going to let me know"- Jeff 😂

12:57 - This was my exact reaction. I assumed 84v, but that bar just kept climbing. 📊

Spendy upgrade from GT. Will they show duty cycle in the software any time soon? At the price range... Build a Vesc.

Joey Z built a 24s2p monster back in July? He was the first to go 100+ volts.

After all you have done in promoting and supporting the sport and after having purchased I imagine quite a few of their products, they get you to wait in a cafe. They should welcome you with a glass of Champagne.

PLEASE get one asap. I CANNOT wait to watch you guys break that board down and shred it. I got a pint, I can't afford that shit! But I hope to see Jeff and bhodi testing it's limits in a video soooooooon❤

I would still rather get a Floatwheel, if not a VESC @ 80v. This new onewheel....everything is going to be serialized together. No right to repair. It's crap they have a patent for as long as they do! $3200 bucks!!! crazy!....For one, it's the same stator/motor and yes high voltage but less range. Prices should honestly be - PINT: $950 PINT X: $1300 GT: $1800 GT-S: $2100.

"you know, i am wayyy too stressed. I'm having a beer" Me too Keaton, me too

They forgot the P and O in front of the S!

This is my wakeup call to get my ass together and put my vesc together this winter, ive had a sf hub and wtf varials waiting for me to get in gear...

Very curious of the performance of this pack. Can't wait to see VESC users build equivalament packs and put them to the test! 🤙🤙

Love hearing the perspective from experts. Please get one for you guys to test!

I’ve been done with FM for awhile now. Just waiting for a new competitor

3200 is pretty ridiculous, but its pretty interesting to see i have to say. cant wait to see them in the wild, dont know if anyone is gonna get one near me though.

Pausing it @16:00 is hilarious. I made the same face when I heard the price XD

Fm's desperate attempt to stay relevant while vesc is becoming more mainstream

Oh my beloved FM, will you please BUZZ 🐝 off already?!

I'm sorry that I'm new to the onewheel community and all i could afford in time and money was a gt with your guys' accessories. I don't have enough time/money to be an expert and build my own vesc or floatwheel. I think its super fun for my first board. I hope you guys don't antagonize me for that 😅

Jeff I need some OT 😅😂

My biggest question and reason I would buy is if your new MTE 5” hub works fine 👀 I’m here for all the extra power I can get out of the GT platform. Save speeds of 25mph is nice. I hope and wish they would of addressed some of the concerns from the community like XT60s and cheap plugs breaking/axel strength. (I know y’all got us on most of this stuff already) Your reviews and thoughts are similar to mine. Nice hoodie, thanks for repping! Bring those VESCs and GTS to Winman 2024 to see if they can keep up with Nico!

2:16 I'm here for the FM is evil side jabs. Until they prove otherwise. Too many times have they took jabs at the community that supports them. This is the epitome of an abusive relationship

As soon as I watched this video I went and made a deposit on the adv. my og Gt is just fine

Robert just showed his brain. He literally guessed exactly what they did down to the T.

for those of us familiar with euc's, esk8t, and e-bikes, this price is very reasonable.

I can’t wait for the breakdown comparison of the gt to the gt-s. We’ll be able to reverse engineer the S and mod the GT to have same specs with longer battery life

Two guys in our group already ordered one. Probably gonna pull the trigger next week. I’m curious how it does with heat dissipation compared to the stock GT.

Volts does not equal speed. Power (watts or hp) comes from volts x amps. If they are amp limited but not voltage limited, increasing voltage is an easy way to generate more power. As a onewheel plus owner im not a fan of future motion rn, but lets not forget the rules of electricity. Also, a lower capacity battery at a higher voltage can last just as long at the same power draw levels as a lower voltage higher capacity battery

For that price you can buy TWO floatwheel adv pro AND 2 sets of bang bumpers ( cause you know the bangs are what you want on any board ) what happened here is FM bought a float wheel and disected it and copyd it. 113 v ÷3.7v ( cell ) = 30.54 tgis means its likely a 2p 30s setup. Lets vs honest, they spent as little as lossiblle so its likely they updated the wire thickness and motor plug and did little else. That pushback drag jeff is talking about is why im recovering a broken scapuka atm. 30,0000km exp, it was user error but id be stoked to have a bigger overhead for this scenario

Floatwheel here I come !

Pretty wild and surprising release. We will see about speed and how much you can sustain and how much pushback they will put out.

Well with custom shaping to adjust the angle of WTF rails and bangs coming up... might be a super (expensive) board.

I was really hoping it would be $2800 because it's definitely worth it for that price. But $3200 is a bit too much, especially when you gotta get two of them. (That's about the price of the privacy fence I want 😬)

I think what is underestimated is for the plus 200 lbs folks. This will be a better board to ride.

Wow! They really don't like u Jeff, you're the best guy this community has to offer. The audacity of that company.😂😂😂

This was more fun than watching the actual release~!~ Can't wait to see how it turns out, what needs to be done and how much more you have to spend to make it a decent ride. I always tell people, yeah, you can get a GT, drop another $1K and it's almost as much fun as my 4209 with W's and Kush Lo's....

I don't want to be cynical, but man, maybe I wouldn't have purchased a GTS the second it came online if my GT still let me go 26mph... but aw well lol. But wow, a little less weight, more giddy up to fly around corners with, FM's shaping and finally a top speed of 25 sounds good to me. Its is interesting, I've met a ton of riders who have never gone faster than 17mph. If you're just looking to cruise around and you're not a trail rider the GT still seems like a great board. I'm keeping in mind that FM has stated that somehow, someway, the haptic buzz on older models including the GT, will be disableable. I would try a VESC but I just don't have the time or patience to monkey with DIY right now. I need to be buying solutions, not problems at this stage!

I can get a high quality foldable electric bike for the cost of that. That’s their biggest downfall, the pricing. FloatWheel is half the price for excellent performance

6.66 rim! I’m dyin. Great video man I wish they would’ve changed a few things but I guess fm knows what’s best :/

Austen doesn't overheat boards?

Funny how this release gives the standard GT a better image.

The raised the price of the normal GT too 😭😭😭😭

Love that Winman Enduro hoody on you! You should come out an join us next year Jeff!

That's how much I paid for my KTM 450 and I know which one of the two I'd pick literally every single time. BRAAAAP

Can’t wait for the review.

Great job talking over the whole announcement and leaving both audios on sheesh

Surprised no comments on Dorksen's hat trick. That bill belongs on a duck.

I don’t know man, everything is expensive now! It comes down to, do I want one? Answer is yes I do! So guess I gotta work a couple OT days! $3200 for is one of my least expensive hobbies!

Floatwheels are about to crush the fm market. I like my GT but if I could go back in time I wouldn't go with an fm board.

Do you know if they’re working on a new version of the Onewheel pint

So..had a change of mind and snagged up a Series S. Shipped today! Wooohoooo!

All the speculation about how much cheaper it's gonna be 20 minutes before the price shock of the year is hilarious. Also they raised the price of all the other boards by $100. Which given the recall credit is even more insulting. Im with the girl, the S is for suck(ers).

The extra is to cover all of the Future Lawsuits 😒

Checked the WIKI before and it was updated before as well

I'd love to work for y'all, seems like a rad workplace

Go buy it and test it it’s nice I have a GT and love it, but if I had extra money laying around I would buy the s model as a second board and I can cruise at 24 miles per hour and not worry about push back and have that’s extra power I. Reserve, guys just buy it make Some videos on please

Deff not worth it this is what the GT should have been originally

Someone actually bet that FM wanted less money 😂

The real question is will the 5" hub work with the GT-S stator?

I feel like they priced it to price out beginners. Most people who are buying with no experience I think would shy away from $3200+.

I'm that 20 mph guy, but I'm not going to pull the trigger on it with that price point. I will explore that new front footpad though.

Im surr you guys are gonna get at least one, can I come down to the shop and test ride it vs Jeffs VESC so i can decide on which route to go next? Im in Sac, was just with yall on the halloween group ride, had a great time and thabks for puttin that on!

are you guys going to do a video on the CBGT battery upgrade from chi anytime soon? curious about it.

I'm honestly happy with my og GT

That Drip..... Hoodie on point.

sounds like a low cost upgrade for USD3200 of revenue, WHERE IS THE REST OF THE MONEY GOING?

I think everyone is missing the real point of the extra voltage. I don't think it has anything, at all, to do with higher top speed. That doesn't even make any sense! It's only 8KPH higher, FFS! That could have been done at a much lower voltage, with a much less expensive battery. People still think 20MPH is quite fast (which, TBH, is rather… precious to the EUC and eSkate community, but eh…). Going faster, while it'll make a very small niche sector of the market cream their pants, won't sell all that many boards, especially at $3k+. From an electrical engineering point of view, the real purpose is obvious: this is about the CPSC findings and the threat of an actual, real recall. First, it should be noted that their current solution, the stupid app and firmware update, with haptic feedback and the annoying buzz, does NOT, in any way, shape, or form, actually solve the issue that prompted the recall. This is because the issue with people being catapulted off boards that spontaneously fail and nose dive is NOT because the riders ignored existing safety features and pushed through and past pushback, beyond the nominal top speed of the boards. Rather, the issue is seen in times when the board is well below push back threshold, and fails spontaneously, just shutting off power to the motor with NO advance warning, and catapulting the unsuspecting rider off the front! This can be triggered in situations where the rider is exceptionally heavy, or carrying a load, and then attempts to accelerate, even from a very low speed, even a very small amount, uphill. The ESC then calls for a significant Amperage bump that the battery/BMS can not put out, and instead of "doing its best" the ESC, just like when the recharge exceeds the battery voltage, responds by simply shutting off entirely! I have had this happen to me on several occasions, e.g., when I (a pretty light 69-71kg) was carrying a very heavy backpack loaded with groceries, and going VERY slowly up a slight incline. As the terrain shifted just a bit, and the incline increased just a few degrees or so (and of course with a large number of people who just happened to be watching!) the board simply failed, seemingly out of nowhere. No pushback, nothing. Just completely shut off the motor, sending me flying off the front of the board onto my face (and then getting hit by my groceries from behind to add insult to injury). By increasing the voltage headroom WAY above the pushback threshold, and, I can almost guarantee, way above even the top wattage output the ESC will produce, they have gotten around this safety issue, not by rewriting the ESC firmware and FOC motor control code with some different methodology of dealing with these edge cases, but by just moving the edge case. The significantly higher voltage allows the motor control circuitry to always be able to force even the most persistent rider to back off when they attempt to go too fast, because now it has enough power to force even the heaviest rider to lean back, as well as giving the ESC the headroom necessary to (hopefully) remove the edge cases like that described above, where the ESC/BMS/battery simply can not output enough power to instantaneously respond to the data coming in via the sensors, and thus responds by simply failing outright! A the higher voltage, the ESC can now through a huge Amperage spike at the motor in these edge cases, preventing the ESC from shutting off power to the motor and keeping the rider upright and on the board. This is just basic electrical engineering, things kids learn in like the first semester after they declare their EE major, and not exactly a secret. The real issue is that there is a series of bugs and flaws in the firmware and hardware of all current Onewheels that FM is not trying to address (possibly because it is a very intractable and difficult issue to troubleshoot; just look at the time and difficulty surfdado and others in the VESC community had in trying to isolate and solve the nose hunting issues while going over planked surfaces) or perhaps that they just don't recognize even exists (it does) convinced in their intellectual superiority and that the issue is related to rider error (pushback being ignored) and being too shortsighted and arrogant to even recognize an actual flaw in their hardware and code. I.e., this is the board they should have designed from the get go, and the board that was forced by the CPSC ruling, and the one they hope to migrate to over time, so that any real recall that occurs (once the CPSC figures out the the current joke from FM doesn't actually solve the real world problem) they will only by forced to recall a small number of actual existing boards, as most XRs, Pints, and GTs will have outlived their battery service lives and will not be being ridden. This "solves" the problem by brute force bypassing the edge cases that cause it in the first place, not actually finding and addressing the actual problem. This is the only way the jump to such a high Voltage makes any sense (especially given the merely modest performance bump the GT-S has over the GT, especially relative to the added cost. But all that said, I suspect the new cases and complaints to the CPSC will start pretty quickly from those who still have Pints, XRs, and GTs who have catastrophic failures, some of which lead to deaths, that promoted the first recall, even after the firmware update is forced on them, and the S-series will not be able to prevent that. Rant over.

I said FM was going to price it at $3295 and got laughed off the Onewheel Subreddit. Ohh how the turns table.

You can buy a used Honda grom for the gt-s with shipping & taxes. My XR is looking real good still haha

give HER a podcast XD she is FULL of them XD. fun watch-along thanks

I got a pint X, and I’m a6’5”. I’m getting into trail riding and I think I’m maxing out the motor with my weight 215-220. Do you think the high performance would make a difference for gts? I nose dive my first week at 17mph cause I didn’t know what push back was and my range is lol 30% lower…. Kind of concerned about safety for me riding but I love it

@ 4:30 Jeff made his $20 bucks. 🤣😂🤣

So they basically kept the same GT frame, didn't have to change much but charging $3500 after tax for a new board. It's a GT with some new internals just like you guessed!

Yeah, higher voltage than my VESC? Damnit fm, I had to get one.

“The GT is $2,200” Wait, refresh the webpage! 😂

The GT is also 100$ more now!

I'll hold on to the GT for now until the price drop in about 3-5 years....I hope 😢. Nice board fosho tho!

for that price, I can get a PEV that goes 3 times as fast, as well as 4 times as far... and still be exceptionally fun.. the FM pricing has gone bonkers.. VESC is the future.

absolutely not worth it. you can get an EX30 from eucdeals for less than that. The EX30 can do 100 miles easy and can hit 50 mph. way more bang for your buck

4:45 hahaha that got me

WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF POOR BART! 😩😂

Been waiting for this video all day 😂

16-25 mile range. Meh

3:35 If this is true, I don't think a FM controller could ever keep up with a vesc.

$3200 I can find a nice used motorcycle for that and look way cooler.

Yewwwwww TFL for life baby

With less distance its only rated for 16-25 mile range