Gary Husband played with both Holdsworth and McLaughlin Gary Novak played with both Holdsworth and Corea Chad Wackerman played with both Zappa and Holdsworth Vinnie Colaiuta played with all of them: Zappa, Holdsworth, McLaughlin and Corea
Simply one of the best. I was high school when I met Vin at P.A.S. in Nashville back in the early 90s. He was the kindest soul to me and my dad. I love this man -through his music!
I first became aware of Vinnie back in the 70's. I didn't really get it until I started listen to Frank Zappa. The phrasing, notation, metric modulation, time signature's, etc. I blew my mind!!! I researched his musical history from that point on. Studied out of the same music book's that he studied out of, while he was at Berklee. Gary Chaffee was one of his drum teacher's, that I focused on for year's. Now after 40 years of drumming, I pretty much hung up the drumsticks, but, I will always cherish the knowledge that I have learned, over the years. Vinnie is the most dangerous drummer around. If you don't know who he is....I feel sorry for you...
14:55 is when I thought I died and went to Heaven!! What Vinnie has done throughout his career in many ways almost seems unprecedented. What a great tribute to a legendary artist!! ❤️🥁🥁🥁
My top 5 starts with Buddy, Jeff, Vinnie, and Steve, and includes Dave Weckl. Technical wizardry aside, I just wish I could approach the playing of my favorite groover......Jeffrey Thomas Porcaro. RIP JP.
Vinnie work with Zappa is still legendary. Zappa didn’t get mainstream AirPlay so most people had never heard of Vinnie. If you ever get some Zappa imports and Vinnie is playing get ready....., it hot!!!! I’m glad chick cores, Joan rivers, and sting has shared this mans talent with the world.
I bought Summoner’s Tales I don’t know how many years ago and got mesmerized by this off beat and on-beat hi hat pattern going back and forth against the kick in Seven Days. I thought to myself who comes up with this stuff? That’s when I became a Vinny fan for life. I had to learn it and it’s drives me crazy still. Nothing but crazy respect for a guy I’d put on the Mt. Rushmore of drumming.
Yeah, Seven Days is an excellent example of a song that can be played on the radio being enjoyed by anybody who doesn´t even play any instrument and still it is a challenge for many experienced musicians to cover properly. This is how the music should be done. It´s approachable to the listener and not at all boring to the player.
kskslslslsoooao I feel like anything Vinnie has ever done has been or seemed so effortless. Objectively can shred as well as anyone there has ever been. Subjectively everything I think he does has such soul and flavor and complexity and dynamics and he’s just so insanely solid. Plus he played with Zappa. At a point it’s subjective of course.
My favourite playing of Vinnie's is with Sting. It's not my favourite music, nor is it the most technically difficult, but for me, it's the nicest cross-section between technique, musicianship and just 'feel good' stuff. I was lucky enough to see him with Sting and wow was he great.
The description of Vinnie auditioning for Zappa, sounds pretty much like a freaking nightmare for a musician. Starts at around 04:20. (lmao) He was not looking for good or excellent musicians. He was looking for outstandingly skilled geniuses and proper masters. I'm pretty sure the musicians that didn't make the cut are still excellent. It would be great if there's any footage or audio recording of Zappa auditions.
pobinr Nah, Luke is a humble guy. I’ve met and talked to him and he thinks of himself as just another guy. He definitely IS that good tho. If u think he’s not, u don’t know his work very well. Rick Beato puts him in the virtuoso category, and he knows a little bit about the subject.
What James is trying to say is that Vinnie is probably de N1 drummer in the world. And yes he is still growing. But you can't notice because you are deaf
Alex Mook that two ton shoe video floating around RU-vid is one of the fucking greatest drumming clinics ever, hate how under appreciated Dave is - he’s an animal on the skins!
Alex Mook that two ton shoe video floating around RU-vid is one of the fucking greatest drumming clinics ever, hate how under appreciated Dave is - he’s an animal on the skins!
I totally agree Laz....he is something spectacular in the drumming world. He is one of those drummers that is just perfect in every sense. I like me some Will Kennedy as well....subjectively of course, I put those guys at the top.
If I've said it once, I'll say it again...fuck the hands, I want his ears! Inner clock, form, counter rhythmic ideas...damn...!I know I'll never be a good as him, but he does inspire me to do better, and strive on...thanx Vinnie!
We saw Vinnie with Jeff Beck in '06 at Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom. Didn't recognize him at first. He looked like an insurance salesman, (but didn't play like one). I've seen JB over the years and he never disappoints but this concert was truly an outlier.
People's tastes differ, so picking a single "number one" is problematic (although I admit Vinnie has been my favorite since Tinseltown Rebellion). But I don't think anyone can realistically claim that there is any drummer at any time who is or was _better_ than Vinnie in any sense. You want groove - check. You want ridiculous technique - check. You want astoundingly original ideas - check. He's got it all. Seeing him play live, close up, is a profound experience.
Once one hits a level such as Vinnie and the likes, saying one of those guys are better than another is like saying blue is better than red. It's absurd.
Dave Weckl, Gavin Harrison, Antonio Sanchez, Simon Phillips, Pandit Barrot, Bill Stewart, Terri Lynn Carrington, Dennis Chambers, Horacio Hernandez, Cliff Almond, and hundred or young drummers arising. All these guys have their own style and can play anything. Vinnie has a fantastic groove, impressive technique, but I'm not a fan. Just a matter of taste.
With a fantastic groove and impressive technique; what is it that he doesn't have that makes you a non-fan, Philippe? Surely, SOMETHING tangible is turning you off?
Jackson Axe Technique is not what makes me listen to a drummer. And one can have a fantastic groove you don't like. I prefer Paul Wertico, Manu Katche, Jeff Watts or Billy Cobham on this matter. And I'm not a fan of his sound. I love Terri Lynn's sound. And I find her drumming more interesting. Perhaps it's because of the artists I listen to, Chick Corea, Metheny, Camilo, Shorter. But I'm a big fan of Joni Mitchell, and I don't like what she has done with Vinnie. So, there must be something that I dislike. Probably the whole time/fill concept. I come from jazz, my first drummer was Elvin Jones !
And I prefer the drummers who compose. Their drumming is often more musical, because they see the whole picture. Jack deJohnette, pianist and composer is a good exemple. Pat Metheny once said he only hired drummers who play piano, cause they understand music from the inside. I don't think highly of my compositions, but a s an arranger I understand what he meant.
Steve Vai on Vinnie Colaiuta: "I was just enamored with Vinnie. Back in the Frank days, his whole approach, when I heard Vinnie play, his phrasing - it satisfied something in my heart. It was easy to get certain rhythmic gratification from straight up-and-down-type players. Playing grooves, alternate grooves here and there. But Vinnie just came in and threw a wrench into the works. The guy is an alien. He was able to touch buttons with his sense of polyrhythms that no one has ever done. Frank's band was the perfect soundboard for that. I started transcribing his playing for The Frank Zappa Book. I mean, there's five to six different notations for the hi-hat!" [laughs] "I'll tell you a really great Vinnie story. He's one of the most amazing sight-readers that ever existed on the instrument. One day we were in a Frank rehearsal, this was early '80s, and Frank brought in this piece of music called "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation." Just unbelievably complex. All the drums were written out, just like "The Black Page" except even more complex. There were these runs of like 17 over 3 and every drumhead is notated differently. And there were a whole bunch of people there, I think Bozzio was there." "Vinnie had this piece of music on the stand to his right. To his left he had another music stand with a plate of sushi on it, okay? Now the tempo of the piece was very slow, like "The Black Page." And then the first riff came in, [mimics bizarre Zappa-esque drum rhythm patterns] with all these choking of cymbals, and hi-hat, ruffs, spinning of rototoms and all this crazy stuff. And I saw Vinnie reading this thing. Now, Vinnie has this habit of pushing his glasses up with the middle finger of his right hand. Well I saw him look at this one bar of music, it was the last bar of music on the page. He started to play it as he was turning the page with one hand, and then once the page was turned he continued playing the riff with his right hand, as he reached over with his left hand, grabbed a piece of sushi and put it in his mouth, continued the riff with his left hand and feet, pushed his glasses up, and then played the remaining part of the bar." "It was the sickest thing I have ever seen. Frank threw his music up in the air. Bozzio turned around and walked away. I just started laughing."
Agree, 1st took notice of him on Beck's Live at Ronnie Scotts and then shifted to Tai's earlier stuff. Seems VC took an immense liking to her. The chemistry always showed. Same level of chemistry with Beck. I am not a musician. Was always a laid back listener. It seems I do that well :)
@16 minutes kills me ,Vinnie playing with a 15 piece band and being the stand out musician over top a highly active 10 piece horn section , Fuckin amazing impact when he really wants to hit the skins .
@@marksevel The 'best' at what? Did you hear the Megadeth album Vinnie played on, for example? It was pretty dreadful. I agree he's the best at being Vinnie, but are you gonna stand there and tell me he's, say, a better reggae player than somebody like Carlie Barrett or a better funk player than Stubblefield? C'mon dude...
@ianh Buddy Rich was a bandleader who kept a huge big band employed and gigging for nearly 50 years. He (along with his contemporaries) helped defined the drum solo as we know it. How are those things not 'musicianship'?
