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Undead is by far the race that was most changed by the recent Warcraft 3 Balance patch, so without further ado, let's do some testing, and see what we can do with this reintroduced item, Wand of Negation!
NEW PATCH brings NEW ITEM - Wand of Negation is INSANE for timing attacks! (Game played on 4-June-2024)
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@NewbInLife
@NewbInLife 24 дня назад
Wand of Negation at 6:15 felt good, instantly clearing early feral spirit effectively removed the early creep checking harasser's front line.
@Lortagreb
@Lortagreb 23 дня назад
33:30 i was geniunly surprised how good of a fight the human put up with sucha small army
@BartoszBanachewicz
@BartoszBanachewicz 23 дня назад
Speaking of Bronze League, I played three melee games yesterday, and realized they were my first 1v1s after a 15 year break.
@maxpkr
@maxpkr 23 дня назад
18 years break here lol.. But I still don't play, just watching Grubby games as that time when I was playing :D
@BartoszBanachewicz
@BartoszBanachewicz 23 дня назад
@@maxpkr if you ever want a sparring partner, hmu.
@kevingause9526
@kevingause9526 23 дня назад
@@BartoszBanachewiczlet’s spar?
@theymockedjesusalso
@theymockedjesusalso 23 дня назад
Same
@user-gh8kf2sr3d
@user-gh8kf2sr3d 23 дня назад
Same
@Erik-jh2wg
@Erik-jh2wg 23 дня назад
Watched this live and watched it again now. In my opinion it doesn't look busted. It looks expensive. It takes 150g (not even taking into consideration that the wand has a CD) to dispel 2 (if you hit both) level 2 feral spirits. Time will tell if this really will be used or not. Let's see! Looking forward to testing it.
@South_Wall
@South_Wall 23 дня назад
Grubby: release video where he argue about how bad wind riders. Lyn: improves his tactics against undead with wind riders and actually wins few series from Happy. Grubby:*confused* ... release video where he wins against wind riders and call this strategy "occasional mass hysteria" This is how pro gamers talks to each other
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
XD
@kevin-7091
@kevin-7091 23 дня назад
Grubby argues there is a recency bias in Wind Rider's strength and it is only about time Happy solves the build Happy solves the build in time and won 5-0 against Lyn in their latest showmatch
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree 22 дня назад
@@kevin-7091 Happy may execute things other mortal cannot. There is ~zero winrate for all other ud vs orc for 3+ months of tournaments (at least 0% wr in 3 last All Star League tournaments - both qualifiers, groups and playoffs).
@lalsaksjdhfggggs
@lalsaksjdhfggggs 23 дня назад
To apply more pressure you should get wand all the time, and dont wait to use it. When farseer summons the wolfs, they are togwther, a good player will split them. A low wolf becomes more useless then a wolf with full hp
@justCezarMe
@justCezarMe 23 дня назад
that human vs undead game looked just how I like to see undead vs human. AWESOME ! :D
@ssjmewtwo5448
@ssjmewtwo5448 24 дня назад
Good addition this wand, it allows more tactics as UD ain't forced to run destroyers anymore
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree 23 дня назад
150gold for 200 dispel damage... too expensive
@ssjmewtwo5448
@ssjmewtwo5448 22 дня назад
Ah yes that's the most important thing, you must be gosu af if you are able to micro destro, heroes and the rest of army Vs human casters, also they do cost too, 100 gold, some wood and 2 food, I better go buy wand and live best life instead of working my ass of for minimal effort
@fessjara6533
@fessjara6533 22 дня назад
​@@ssjmewtwo5448дог Игра в ши. И. З
@HBon111
@HBon111 23 дня назад
That final game was so fun to watch! The mix of units on both sides and the sheer slugfest at his expo!
@Milotus.
@Milotus. 24 дня назад
Stupid question: After Grubby saw Orc is fast teching with only 1 Burrow, couldnt he go all in Ted-Style Mass Towerrush? How can a fast teched orc survive teds TR? How could Orc def 3 Fiends with Atk Upgrade mass frost armors, towers, blight, ziggus? Undead could even sell half his base to push Upgrades and 1-2ziggus more. It shouldnt be possible to fast tech without barracks without any consequences. Even if u was scouted
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 24 дня назад
He was testing wand if he pushed ted style that wouldn’t be possible
@gremiocopeiro83
@gremiocopeiro83 24 дня назад
I guess you can just get some towers yourself and a barracks when you see the rush comming (as you are constantly harrassing with FS). Also, as you are fast teching, you just get demolishers and a second hero to counter towers earlier. But hey, you can always try that in your games as see how it feels.
@user-fn1cj4em4k
@user-fn1cj4em4k 23 дня назад
@@stefanocioni2587 thats rude
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 23 дня назад
Realistically he should just continue to pump ghouls and bust him open. Stack rods and ghouls and orc should lose if you scout it in time. But northern isles is big enough to make it hard enough to really pull that against a high lvl opponent who knows what he's doing
@yofdldlek
@yofdldlek 23 дня назад
Grubbys community is positive stefano, you are wrong here. Out s.o.a.b ​@@stefanocioni2587
@landi2244
@landi2244 24 дня назад
GG! FYI ,You had 4 acolytes on your main mine for a long time.
@TK-uq3ui
@TK-uq3ui 23 дня назад
Hes just adapting some Bronze-Tactics
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
Too much Bronze.......
@landi2244
@landi2244 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby as a 500mmr player, I approve of this message.
@shoc2177
@shoc2177 23 дня назад
Grub really got emotional at that guy who got inspired by him to play! Good for him! deserved
@GrimEreaper
@GrimEreaper 23 дня назад
Honestly Grubby inspiring people to play this game is huge. It has a learning curve and like any RTS its hard to get into. The good news is theres also a lot of people who are just starting out in this game too. If you can stick w/ wc3, its such a rewarding game...this is coming from someone who has played since early 2000s. I will take 1-3 month breaks and will somehow always come back to wc3. Its that good of a game that no new RTS or game has ever done besides wc3.
@Amoeby
@Amoeby 23 дня назад
What about sc2?
@GrimEreaper
@GrimEreaper 21 день назад
@@Amoeby Sc2 and wc3 are just way different feels of RTS. Both are beautiful and have their perks. You'll notice tho a lot of people will go back and forth. For better or worse. Heroes in wc3 make it way more interesting and more random, which hardcore sc2 RTS people would hate. IMO wc3 is just a more casual and more fun RTS than sc2.
@Amoeby
@Amoeby 21 день назад
@@GrimEreaper gotcha. I personally like heroes but I hate randomness in items, damage and some mechanics like crits and misses. Imo sc2 is better in that department.
@pratikhazari3701
@pratikhazari3701 23 дня назад
6:37 I wonder what creeps dream of while bloodlusted.
@user-sk9fc5xl5n
@user-sk9fc5xl5n 20 дней назад
Of murder
@skwasigr
@skwasigr 22 дня назад
The side characters of the 32:30 attack are funny to me. There is this peasant that is so tunnel visioned in finishing the sanctuary that he ignores the undead army. And 33:50 the breaker was like excuse me let me through, let me through i need to go to my rally point😅
@Daher999Gamer
@Daher999Gamer 23 дня назад
I just wanna say I too started to play w3c inspired by the bronze league videos, and I've been having a great time. Thanks Grubby
@MrAningan
@MrAningan 22 дня назад
19:08 I would enjoy watching you play Mechabellum, the game is great. I like that every situation has multiple solutions, helps each game feel fresh. To those unfamiliar - Mechabellum is an auto battler mecha strategy game. It is similar to Riot's TFT / Dota Auto chess / Legion TD 2 / SC 2 Direct Strike. It is supposed to go F2P, but no date was given (likely when 1.0 arrives, in half a year if I were to guess).
@bathroomlew983
@bathroomlew983 23 дня назад
I love necro-wagon.
@009_Ghostly_Systematic
@009_Ghostly_Systematic 23 дня назад
Ngl, tier 2 UD with mass casters is entertaining to watch. Not only that but it allowed them to counter water elementals to a degree which helps out protecting their expo so the haunted mine buff is not needed. I wish we could see more tier 2 from top UD against human.
@solothon893
@solothon893 23 дня назад
If you pass the wand of negation between the lich and dk and can use both charges within a second and deal a lot more damage
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 24 дня назад
If warcraft 3 added the ability to issue commands to all units in an AoE around a hero, by holding ctrl or something like in Dota 2 I'd probably go back and play it, but I'm too old to micro these days.
@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940
@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 24 дня назад
Its possible but you have to group the units in advance.
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 24 дня назад
@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 Are you familiar with Dota 2? Not only does it remember control groups between games, you can issue commands to all of your units just by holding ctrl. So all of your summons/wards/illusions can instantly focus fire a target without any delay.
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor 23 дня назад
@@streetguru9350 Yeah it would be nice if WC3 had development on it. But I usually just have the main army in 1 and 2 anyway and the units I need to micro I put in different groups. (Like ranged / casters). Holding ctrl is the same as pressing 1 or 2. Saving control groups between games is such a good feature. Also SC2 has infinite unit in a group so if you implement that you could have every unit in one control group.
@streetguru9350
@streetguru9350 23 дня назад
@ethanatkins1973 Yeah, but like, imagine you're creeping, you never have to change your control group off your hero. You just hold the modifier, and all your nearby units will start attacking. No boxes, no tapping 1/2. God send for summoned units mostly. Could even add a few more options like only ground units are affected. Add a 2nd button for issuing commands to all air units. It almost entirely eliminates the need for control groups.
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 23 дня назад
Does the Staff of Negation function similarly to the Priest dispel when it comes to dispelling blight, because I think that maybe it should have a tag that prevents dispelling blight, other than that, good addition!
@MetaCzech
@MetaCzech 23 дня назад
Bronze league made me believe that W3 is playable also not at top level -> meaning there is also an opportunity for new players, and not only veterans.
@Amoeby
@Amoeby 23 дня назад
I see a lot of these types of comments under Grubby's BLH series and I don't understand where do they come from. Do you expect that everyone is good because the game isn't new? I'm sure that there are always people with low skill level in any game no matter how old it is.
@chriskovalik906
@chriskovalik906 21 день назад
Thank god the UD can deal with Orc now! They had no tools before
@tothgergo7776
@tothgergo7776 23 дня назад
Will be there Lyn vs Fortitude final commentary?
@matheusdal8110
@matheusdal8110 23 дня назад
how to display time elapsed in game as it's there in yellow?
@manta567
@manta567 23 дня назад
Hey, they implemented my Wand of Negation proposal.
@NewbInLife
@NewbInLife 23 дня назад
36:00 Bronze League Heroes inspire people to play W3C or 1v1s, because we kept watching your high end games, and then we finally see lower MMR and we go: "Finally, something of our level."
@ilevitatecs2
@ilevitatecs2 23 дня назад
> only plays wyvs vs good UD > beats a random playing wyvs on ladder with UD and asks if wyvs are overrated? hmm
@redouaneortiz4917
@redouaneortiz4917 23 дня назад
The scourge of grubby 💀
@be_4head606
@be_4head606 20 дней назад
well tbf grubby, coil nova fiends smashes everything
@vl5545
@vl5545 23 дня назад
So WC3 still has a good player base and new items now and then ? These vids makes me want to pick it up again after all these years :)
@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940
@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 23 дня назад
Against all these footmen in last game wouldnt cryptlord and range units be optimal?
@MrParadux
@MrParadux 24 дня назад
Doesn't the addition of Wand of Negation also counter Anti-magic Shell strategies against Destroyers completely in the mirror? It seems to me that this means that the Undead mirror will stay Destroyer only. Granted, I have no idea about the intricacies of the game so I would appreciate some additional insights.
@Biobin123
@Biobin123 24 дня назад
1. Wand costs gold and takes inventory space 2. Wand 1 charge cant take ams
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
It's true it will help remove AMS, which might induce more Desto mirror, BUT it is 75 gold per cast... so, makes you wonder where the value point is. Im not sure!
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby if your opponent goes banshees in the mirror match, they'll undoubtedly be cursing your army as well. So whether or not the wand is worth its cost will depend upon hitting not just AMS, but your own cursed units with the same charge too.
@MrParadux
@MrParadux 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby Thanks for the reply. I am curious how the whole thing develops. I am either way excited that there is a patch with so many changes at all, not just some small number adjustments.
@chill_fridge
@chill_fridge 23 дня назад
Ah, Undead has a nice twig to wag at folks now.
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow 23 дня назад
This change may cause more investments into direct damage spells like Chain Lightning, Blizzard vs the summoning spells. Curious if the wand does affect Serpent Ward, Banish and Sleep.
@chill_fridge
@chill_fridge 23 дня назад
You mentioned Banish- I also wonder about Windwalk, Blight, Fire Orb heal block... Shadowmeld? If Wand of Negation only has two charges seems like a an added Dust of Appearance effect would suit it
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 23 дня назад
It should work on Banish and Sleep, but Serpent Wards have Magic Immunity (except against Ultimates) and thus cannot be dispelled.
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow 23 дня назад
@@chill_fridge Would need to have a price increase then and may be too OP ... some buffs are physical abilities and I think should not be dispellable ... like Windwalk, Shadowmeld ... but Invisibility from Sorceress for example yes. The irony is that it should work on Blight and that may be the best balancing detail about this item so it's not OP.
@TheRealXartaX
@TheRealXartaX 23 дня назад
Why do you focus the mountain king in the last battle instead of the 60% mana paladin? Since he just got healed over and over. He also didn't have divine shield since he picked aura. By the time the MK was forced to teleport the paladin was on like 10% hp just from collateral damage.
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
Error in judgment
@TheRealXartaX
@TheRealXartaX 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby Thanks, just wondered if there was a reason I wasn't aware of.
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby Orb of Corruption would've made that last fight less dicey but your opponent didn't adapt by making spellbreakers, so banshees won the day.
@staceygram5555
@staceygram5555 23 дня назад
Once you've webbed some Wind Riders, would it not make sense to move out of their range?
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
Yes, it's a common kiting strategy. But it's not always good if you have gargs to run away, as those are melee
@Holly7500
@Holly7500 24 дня назад
UD rank 1 again?
@xtremelemon8612
@xtremelemon8612 23 дня назад
16:52 did he have enough wyvs for the compo to be at full potential though? looks like he never made enough to reach that critical insane dps where wyvs really become lethal
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 23 дня назад
If the undead players allows orc to comfortably amass that many wyverns, they probably deserve to lose. Gargs will rip them to shreds.
@Number1139.0
@Number1139.0 23 дня назад
blizzard : use a different icon so people arn't confuse people : 5:28
@robboss6685
@robboss6685 24 дня назад
the UD GM going up faster is crazy
@ssjmewtwo5448
@ssjmewtwo5448 24 дня назад
Important change tho, they still struggled to fast exp
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree 22 дня назад
it was 100 sec before they nerf it to 110 sec, now "buff" to 105. I mean, nerfing Happy was the idea, while humans were not creeping am to 3 level back then.
@Mene0
@Mene0 22 дня назад
Wand seems alright
@Howitz759
@Howitz759 22 дня назад
For The Lich's Kink!
@Sp1Tz_2nd
@Sp1Tz_2nd 23 дня назад
poor ghoul 😥
@qwerty222999
@qwerty222999 24 дня назад
Isn't Orc missing a tier 3 unit now that Taurens are tier 2? What if they made Wyverns tier 3 units and buffed them accordingly?
@DarkflameEmperor
@DarkflameEmperor 23 дня назад
Taurens aren't tier 2 anymore. They reverted the change to taurens getting 20+ speed instead. (so from 270 speed to 290 speed).
@Zahri8Alang
@Zahri8Alang 24 дня назад
Insert Kingdom Hearts meme here
@6184aabbcdefg
@6184aabbcdefg 21 день назад
Hey, no one have problem with the 4 acolytes mining since 25:16 ? I’m like make it 5 plz!!
@R3stor
@R3stor 23 дня назад
Wand of Negation? Is it 2003 again or what???
@mohamaddeb5121
@mohamaddeb5121 24 дня назад
Can someone tell me how to buy this version of WC3 not the reforged one, also if i want to get custom maps with it like dota 1 or towers how ?? Coz i remember having a version of it before 2010 with custom maps...
@marijansimon9788
@marijansimon9788 23 дня назад
Buy reforged - switch graphic settings from Reforged to CLASSIC in the Option menu. Problem solved Custom maps are easily downloaded, don't worry about those.
@mohamaddeb5121
@mohamaddeb5121 23 дня назад
Thank you
@marijansimon9788
@marijansimon9788 23 дня назад
@@mohamaddeb5121 No problem good man, i wish you many fun moments in your newest WC3 adventures !
@mohamaddeb5121
@mohamaddeb5121 23 дня назад
@marijansimon9788 thanks bro, yeah bring back the old memories. As Grubby got me excited to play it again.
@krylassa
@krylassa 23 дня назад
Bronze league reviews are GOAT. Love them!
@ambion19
@ambion19 23 дня назад
Can wand of negation clear blademaster's windwalk?
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
No
@Trompok13
@Trompok13 23 дня назад
those tier D units...
@sdamer4609
@sdamer4609 23 дня назад
Not sure if purchasing dispel for gold+inventory slot is that cool, honestly. Too weak even for lvl 2 water elems/wolves. Maybe vs early hex it is fine though. I'd rather see another ritual dagger, but for mana regen.
@HEALER__
@HEALER__ 23 дня назад
it's way too expensive
@AA-on5uf
@AA-on5uf 24 дня назад
That power to end a 36'min video uploaded 6'min ago 😈
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow 23 дня назад
If a squad of 10 horse archers goes against 10 cavalry and they don't hit and run or spread or harass ... they have no chance of winning. They would never win a head on fight. People who have played at least a little AoE 2 or other similar games should easily understand the concept. Ergo, 6 Wyverns are much more effective when spread out, harassing the main base, the expansion, the neutrals, the scouts ... Your counter was pretty good against them, so the enemy shouldn't have continued making more Wyverns when they know you are already prepared. Few bats or just trolls with few riders used for ensnare and a bit of tanking probably would have been much better ... But of course the player would need great micro to avoid the Nova AoE as much as possible.
@VeggeMight
@VeggeMight 23 дня назад
Why doesn't he make slay the spire videos anymore? i loved that series more than any.
@game_jinx
@game_jinx 23 дня назад
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@attention_shopping
@attention_shopping 23 дня назад
gg
@edwinpoon
@edwinpoon 24 дня назад
Now every orc going wyverns... still Tier D?
@rikosakurauchi7161
@rikosakurauchi7161 23 дня назад
When new race blizzard ...😢
@bofpwet9500
@bofpwet9500 23 дня назад
maybe in warcraft 4 if it ever happen but never with wc3 i would say, it would kinda break the balance and the game to introduce new races, could be fun but i suppose it would be very chaotic and "we" d also be crying for a long while about many things.
@stuartdalrymple
@stuartdalrymple 24 дня назад
Is this original War 3 Frozen Throne, or Remastered?
@hn-ca24
@hn-ca24 24 дня назад
all the same except if you buy reforged you get graphics updates & campaign update as well as certain maps only usuable for reforged.
@yonatielu3881
@yonatielu3881 23 дня назад
Wyverns give too much exp
@South_Wall
@South_Wall 23 дня назад
Btw, if it's no longer the yt channel name "Follow Grubby", but just "Grubby", why should we watch your back on the avatar then?
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
Thats still the URL FollowGrubby, can't change it. Somehow grubby is claimed but not being used
@tejeda7324
@tejeda7324 24 дня назад
What is the opposite of a timing attack? So if you attack 9 minutes it’s a timing attack. What if you attack at eight minutes?
@TheRealXartaX
@TheRealXartaX 23 дня назад
Timing attack just means you line up all your upgrades, production, and so on so that you hit at a specific time with the most possible strength for that time. Hence the "timing" part. The opposite of a timing attack would just be to not have a specific timing you plan to attack.
@kevin-7091
@kevin-7091 23 дня назад
Timing attack means going for an attack in a favorable timing, usually when you just finished an important upgrade (eg. Destroyer form), hero level up (eg. Level 3 AM), or your opponent just invested a lot of money on expansion or tech. There is no specific time for an attack to be considered a timing attack, it depends entirely on what is happening in game
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
The opposite of a timing attack is an anti-timing attack. It describes whether you attack at the peak of a newfound power (finished upgrade or just got lvl 3 hero), or at the bottom of a power deficit. An anti-timing attack would be to create 3 Bone Yards and then attack and go-allin. Lots of unused resources, so it's an inefficient attack
@TheRealXartaX
@TheRealXartaX 23 дня назад
@@kevin-7091 There is a specific time for a timing attack, that's kind of the entire point. If you overshoot it, your attack is no longer a timing attack because you're no longer in a timing window. That's why you have a build that aims at having certain upgrades and units lined up to finish around minute X, hence the specific timing. Of course, builds can be delayed and such due to what happens during a game, but that's the general idea. A good example is Terran in SC2 and planning to hit the enemy with a marine drop at a specific minute with 1/1 upgrades. If that's a couple of minutes late then it will be several magnitudes weaker, even if it's still just when your upgrades finish.
@kevin-7091
@kevin-7091 23 дня назад
​@@TheRealXartaX It still depends entirely on what is happening in game, not what specific seconds and minutes you are in. If NE and UD had a lot of exchanges early in the game, causing a delay in tech for both of them, the UD could still go for a Tier 3 timing attack that is delayed by two minute, and it will still be considered a timing attack assuming that NE's tech was also delayed by two minutes. Yes, there are some timeframe in which most of the common timing attack occurs, but it is mostly a byproduct of the game's meta
@ThrArchitect1995
@ThrArchitect1995 23 дня назад
Day 5 of asking grubby to review one of my entertaining low MMR matches using some of his strategies
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
Link w3champs profile
@ThrArchitect1995
@ThrArchitect1995 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby most of them are BNET games, is there a way to pull those replays? Or do I just need to be playing on W3C (Noob question). Thanks!
@zt7562
@zt7562 24 дня назад
Grubby salutations from Chile 🌶️
@bigben9463
@bigben9463 23 дня назад
Web is still op for me.. really has to be revised.. unit is trapped and has 0 chance to escape
@nightyonetwothree
@nightyonetwothree 22 дня назад
imagine ensnare (more cast rage, can be casted on ground units, even heroes, prevent staffs).
@game_jinx
@game_jinx 23 дня назад
dont mispel diss spell
@hironobu64
@hironobu64 23 дня назад
Wand busted Necros busted Wagons busted Banshees busted UD imba now Busted
@XtReMz98
@XtReMz98 23 дня назад
Grubby is so negative today. Keeps negating stuff.
@FollowGrubby
@FollowGrubby 23 дня назад
you had me at the first half
@XtReMz98
@XtReMz98 23 дня назад
@@FollowGrubby Lok’Tar Ogar Chieftain!
@queteimporta4596
@queteimporta4596 24 дня назад
primer comentario. vamos argentinaaa
@queteimporta4596
@queteimporta4596 24 дня назад
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