NEW POSITION 4 TIER LIST Patch 7.36C - Best Heroes For Easy MMR! - Dota 2 Meta Guide 

Thank you Speed for taking the difficulty of heroes into account while making the tier list.

At my humble 5k Kotl 4 works just fine, just because it’s kinda broken with pos 3 caster Tiny and there is a billion of Spirit breaker sups in enemy draft

Thanks for the update!

you probably wont read this speed but i've been archon or 2k since dota 2 released its ranking system and ive been playing since dota 1 ive been play as a support my whole dota 2 life and i can finally say i've reached divine and can play with my immortal friends! thank you so much for all the videos and all the help! keeping a positive mindset helped alot too! i hope you help others achieve the same if not more you made my childhood self's dream come true!

Loving the new short and self-aware intros

Day 41 of asking speed to play position 1 Io

For me is just crazy to open this video and immediatly see Lion and Ezalor, the two heroes Im currently with the biggest W streak, of 6 an 9 matches, respectively, playing position 4..

Crazy how silencer doesn’t even exist anymore

I recommend taking a look at Lina, her DPS Facet makes her quite strong. Been playing her for a while as pos4/5 and normally i easily win the trade with the Stun alone. People seem to really underestimate the DPS from the Spells combined with the Auto-Attacks.

big believer of bounty too, the through and through facet combined with his ult deals massive damage. when u track someone, try to throw the shuriken at any enemy unit behind your target. It will hit the target twice.

Where is lich?

where is abbadon?

i had pick sven support twice, as a support sven its pretty good hero, but the problem is normaly your teammates dont know how to play having sven support in team so you will have a hard time to sycronize the play like when to go on enemy, when to retreat, but overall its good hero, like 1 spell giving aoe 240 physical damage block and aoe 6 armor (with shard) just try it, it is worth it, i try it twice and twice got the vice mvp (honorable mention or sumtin you name it)

Ngl im immortal now but back in the day u can carry games so ez on tusk in lower tiers if ur good at him and just go blink aghs. The idiots always show and it’s just a free pickoff so much of the game if u know where to position and how to use smokes and stuff. The hardest part is just getting blink aghs before u lose loool😂

21:47 caveat, nyx mind flare one shots units with mana. Flagbearers, siege creeps and jungle creeps without mana are untargetable

Undying is giving me free 500mmr lately as pos 3 till 5. I just focused on the facet zombie on using ulit. Another choice if you missed the tomb stone.

What about lina? I see nobody including it in the pos 4 pool but as a support main I have had quite a success with her with the DOT facet and I think its at least B tier.

I disagrer with lion, rush his shard and he is so hard to deal with... In lane, his level 3 (level 2 mana burn) is so annoying.

skywrath build 1 nullt , mana boots , kaya or athos depends when u goot at stay alive kaya first 4 then atoiis 2 ... if team need catch atos first ect ppp.. sure ags shard into ... aghs

On bounty hunter you failed to mention with the through and through facet can double apply to heros if the hero is between the initial target and bounty hunter

i can say that with NP nerfs he still good to play, the global presence is very impactful mostly in early games and then you can just buy atos or orchid then aura items/vessel

Why does it say tier list when there is no tier list..

Work burnout has been real so I've been off for a couple months. The timing of this couldn't be more perfect thank you so much :)

Bro i have 2000 games on hoodwink and I can confirm that she has never been so weak in her entire existence.

Enigma?

Jakhiro and Ogre are not pos4 right now?

Having phoenix in C tier is criminal. Slows attack speed, creates miss chance, massive AoE ult, heals and does % based damage on sun ray. My wr with phoenix the past month is close to 80%

Nyx can only kill creeps with mana; nyx can't one-shot flagbearer creeps

Sorry but playing position four I just shit on all those heroes playing at skywrath mage as a position 4

would buy gameleap subscription if you made videos about meepo

I think Kotl pos 4 works fine with a bunch of offlaners. Not only is Tiny a good partner, but Mars, Tidehunter and CW are just other examples of really good pairings

Damn man, not even Silencer is on this list. He got nerfed to the ground as a support

Yes, SP is the best, if you really wanna just farm mmr pick SP, very easy to play you only need lvl's that it… That is basically all the 4pos now, heroes that can get lvl's are way more important that heroes that can get items. I still like my Tusk and ES and Ench, (Rubik is busted vs magic) but those heroes are like Pudge or Mirana you know then, or you don't. Tree is also very good, but he is more 5, TBH I did not know about NYX and Sky kill illusion so, they look busted as well. AND ENY HERO that can carry Gleipnir readably, basically makes their cores HAVE TO (even heroes like Storm) go manta or use bkb. That's why he values HW for sure.

Bro where is ogre

Can u put subtitles to your video? I really love to watch your videos but my english is poor

Facet 2 Veno is actually broken to the point I max wards at lvl 7-8

skywrath is so good hes very fun to play, very simple

No CM?

Offlane here - thanks now I'm going to get shitter Hoodwinks in my lane every game for the next month

Silencer?

Lion in E tier is insane ..

Unironically, Flow Morphling should be on this list.

Hoodwink lover here

Any jakiro?

Didnt mention Doom. I think he scales really well, farms super fast, can just build up tons of utility items for the team.

Great Dota 2 knowledge, but more impressed by the muscles

No morphgling?

What happened to Omni bruh

ma boyee speeed be hitn the gym look good man

"literally a billion damage"

I can't help but feel Lion is extremely undervalues here

Where is ancient appration😮

Weaver on B tier is crazy

The noxious plague facet on Veno is the strongest counterplay spell imo...I would put him above shaman, but I can see it being interchangeable because how complimentary shaman's kit is to offlaners that are topping the meta currently

Where's CM?

I feel like Phoenix is kinda low. The hero feels busted with the free miss chance on all spells

Where is talking about clockwerk ?

According to dota pro tracker, his ratings are off.

speed personally i think you do the videos better when you are not wearing clothes but thats just me

DOTA is a well balanced game i didn't expect that

Where's lich ?

ppl dont know where to put omniknight now days, that heroe is a mess

why are you looking so huge speed

Those arms are C-tier

Lion E-tier?! He he, I have been getting 20+ stacks from ulti EZ in my Lion games recently. The "fist build" on Lion just makes it so easy to get stacks for your ulti, when then gives you crazy dmg on ult, hp pool and melee attack dmg. Lion A-tier if you know how to play lion! (on my rank = Archon)

mirana for me is E need rework

Dark Seer what tier?

No way willow is in d tier

where is warlock xd

Speed: makes a video with dark seer kotl. and then doesnt mentin it even

atlast,coz im still using my master/gm cm/ss and jak...

The dark willow nerf is so huge that completely broke me, i'm not even sure if i wanna still play dota...

Where jakiro ☝️😢

oi u cant one shot flag bearers

That undying in the clip was pure trash

Weaver still

tuskar d,im suing you

Offlane pls

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i spam undying 5900 to 6100 haahhaahah

Please talk about clinkz stupid innate.. it's ridiculous.. buff my little boy like any other hero

gaining mmr for what? it doesnt pay your bills and noone cares:) plus, the higher you get, the more you need to grind, focus, pick your best or the most meta heroes, all things that make your freetime and the games less fun. think about it and you will see, MMR grinding is for morons! :)

Earth shaker is not a pos4, picking earth shaker as a pos4 is griefing.

Don't play this game. Valve is corrupt enough to intentionally put a smurf with a VAC ban on the enemy team every single game. Even in unranked. The game is unplayable. This is unrelated to gaining MMR or climbing. This is abuse you can't even play all day long. Last game I got Stomped by a Phantom Lancer with 13 lifetime DotA 2 matches. 13. I play 13 games in one sitting. Valve is corrupt and we should all punish them by stopping to play the game indefinitely.

invoker players please make some noise!

first here xD

MORPHLING??? im at a 80%wr over 16 games