New Specialized Roubaix SL8 - what’s changed? 

Even better, they don’t claim WHAT it’s 11 seconds faster than.

@@owensnicholas 😂😂 It is really nice bike but the marketing is dumb, they should realize that for endurance riders 11 seconds over 100 km means absolutely nothing as normally people are not in a hurry

@@owensnicholas The previous gen roubaix

Isn't the Crux basically an Aethos with a bit more forgiving geo and large tire clearance?

@@onlycoolnameleftbigger tires, yes. But geometry still pretty aggressive compared to a Roubaix.

Tarmac SL8 is pretty much an Aethos in terms of weight with some Roubaix geometry and a Venge front end, only 32mm tire clearance though. I ride an 32mm tire all road with similar geometry on all road conditions and 32mm is a sweet spot of comfy and fast for me over most road conditions.

I’m with you on this one. I want an Aethos with Roubaix geometry.

Other than the Future Shock itself, the rest of the hardware associated with it is pretty much the same, so there really is no point in changing the rest of the system.

The bike is so similar to my 2020 S-Works Roubaix, except you lose the awesome CLX50 wheels and get gravel wheels which have no value to me. Thanks Specialized - I'll just keep my current bike and just install the Future Shock 3.0 and skip the cost of a new bike!

Glad you enjoyed it!

I think there is a product called Future Shock Delete that would eliminate the FS, and is 400g lighter than the FS 2.0

Aethos seems to be loved by endurance riders?

Yep, I think the lower models come without it. I'd get this bike, lengthen the stem when you want to get more racy aero, or shorten it when you want a more casual ride, add deep dish wheels, all road bikes are monsters downhill.

​@@JustinBensonaethos has geometry very similar to a tarmac so it's not exactly an Endurance bike

Totally. Delete the shock and put some flat bars on and you have a great bike.

The aesthetics-obsessed whine about the routing configuration being regular internal, I see that as a plus as this means headset-related work remains fast and easy.

Welcome aboard!

It is comfy indeed.

Roubaix is more comfy, but heavier Endurace is a bit racier and lighter

I didn't at the launch but I have asked, will update as soon as I get it

Glad you like them!

It is on the website

I read the Terra rims haven’t changed at all, only the hubs on the II version.

Yes they can

Had my 2017 Roubaix comp for 5 years. I've used the hardest spring option and never had problems.

Never heard of Future Shock-related issues, but I've worked on a Domane SL with a loose front IsoSpeed decoupler assembly. Those who don't know will keep preloading the headset to no avail (can't eliminate freeplay). It took me some time to figure out its inner workings, but in the end, I managed to solve the problem and the customer was satisfied.

@@yonglingng5640 one of the shops I go to mentioned that they had a few issues with Future Shock. It's an easy fix but expensive... As for IsoSpeed, it was for the seatpost as the Domane SL6 that I had didn't have the front IsoSpeed anymore.

It does not

​@@davidarthurthank you very much for the reply I couldn't find the answer anywhere else!

The differences are obvious, aren't they? FS can be locked out and doesn't affect the angle of the bars/hoods. It's also hydraulically dampened.

@@LeConcerto not really, not sure the stem angle concerns me if relative to the hands there is the upwards travel of 15-20mm to absorb bumps whether it's from the stem or at the top of the steerer tube? 🤷🏻‍♂️ Are you saying the travel of the stem motion is not just up/down with slight change in depth as the angle changes vs pure steerer tube up down? Not sure that's significant enough to make any difference, I want to see that tested!

​@@db613full disclosure, I don't own any Specialized or Red Shift products. But focusing on the tilt aspect specifically: everyone who rides (and recommend) RS also suggest tilting your bars up to compensate -- so it's "significant." 20mm of travel translates to ~11.47 degrees of tilt. If you flip your 6 degree stem, you'll experience a change of 12 degrees -- that's a lot. It's also not about your hands; it's about your wrists. Also the tilt with RS should be more noticeable on the hoods since the effective lever is longer. Hoods & drops are probably compromised since you're likely to put more weight on your hands in those positions. That's not even going in-depth about the other benefits of FutureShock, like the ability to tune the suspension on the go. Obvs if you are already riding a bike, your only choice is RS. But if you're in the market for a bike, and cockpit suspension is an important feature, IMO FS is superior to RS. Personally, I can deal with handlebar drop but I *cannot* deal with handlebar tilt.

@@LeConcerto all good points. I actually have an old Ridley Cyclocross with an aluminum 150mm stem that absorbs most of the low frequency chatter with 40c tires (probably not recommended for most), but doesn't help big bumps. For the rear I bought a canyon endurance carbon suspension post, and together the ride is very fun

I own both. FutureShock is significantly better for a couple reasons, but the primary reason is that the RedShift only works when on the hoods or tops. When you go to the drops, the geometry makes it so the stem doesn’t travel one bit. FutureShock works perfectly from any position. Also the linear travel is much nicer than the diving front end.

They weren't implying that the Tarmac was a do anything bike, they were implying that it was the "king of bikes."

The Roubaix was never discontinued.

What hole? The one close to the head tube inside the main frame triangle?

@@yonglingng5640 that’s the one yes. There used to be the charging port of 11sp Di2 on the old frame but what do they use it for now?

3.3 comes on the Pro model as well, but I do wish the entire lineup had it.

@@prasad530 Yes, true

@@tonyg3091 That's for the shift lines of mechanical groupsets (shift housing stop needed to swap with the port cover). The Roubaix remains compatible with mechanical groupsets, but this time, only four front derailleurs: 105 FD-R7000, Ultegra FD-R8000, Dura-Ace FD-R9100 and 105 FD-R7100.

the launch was held in Cascais

Hahaha true

I hope he can go without the word garbage

That's because happiness comes from meat

@@benaantje9365 lol

@@Lenser he's on RU-vid and old school

True and that’s why they didn’t really lead with that but a small improvement is nice to have if no downsides and for those that might care

prices start from £2,500...

They’re killer bikes. Lots of people want this. Great geometry and comfort features. If you don’t like it, that’s OK

This bike was last updated in 2021

7.3kg in top-end build

It's not really trying to be outright aero, they have the Tarmac for that

Truth!

Lol..