New SRAM Force AXS: What's New // Details // Road Tested & SRAM Product Updates!

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SRAM Force AXS receives a refresh for 2023 today with a number of refinements adopted from both their Red and Rival AXS groupsets. In this video I cover off a quick summary of what's new in the first few minutes before diving into more detail about the components and my hands-on experience after ~400kms with this new gear! 🚲👌🏼
Links:
SRAM Official: bit.ly/3fOhRrE
SRAM Force AXS on Amazon: amzn.to/3ICJq4M
SRAM eTAP Dual Battery Charger (Unofficial): amzn.to/3ENABnr
Video Index:
0:00 Intro
0:30 What's New Summary
2:06 New FORCE AXS
4:45 RED AXS Rainbow
4:51 4x eTAP Battery Charger
4:55 Component Weights
6:05 Hands-On Experience
6:50 Quick Takes - More Info
7:33 SRAM Force AXS Power Meter Review
8:45 Overall Summary
8:56 SRAM AXS Combination Shifting
10:49 SRAM AXS 1x vs 2x Rear Shifting Speeds
13:18 Wrap-Up
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@brent4adv Год назад

Yea, I can see (from a programming standpoint) why the shifting would be delayed with combo shift enabled. You have to give time for the rider to tap both levers before making a shifting decision in software. I would think disabling the "combo shift" would help with the RD shifting speed because the software no longer needs to wait for the possible scenario where both levers are used at the same time.

@robertwhyte3435 Год назад

It may just be wishful thinking on my part, but I think my Sram Red shifts faster on the back when I just tap and let go of the shifter for the reason you gave. The shifter doesn't have to wait to see if I'm going for a front shift.

@brent4adv Год назад

@@robertwhyte3435 Yea, that could certainly be the case. I don't know how quickly we can tap and release the shift lever but you can test how quickly you can press and release a spacebar on your keyboard and the average is about 7.8 presses/sec which equates to about 128 milliseconds. Being that shift times (according to the video) are 100 milliseconds, at a maximum, I would assume they are only looking at the off-to-on transition of the signal from the lever. If that's the case, then how quickly you tap and release shouldn't matter (since it would be longer than the 100ms anyway).

@robertwhyte3435 Год назад

@@brent4adv It could be that I'm setting the start time of my wait for the shift at the time I let go instead of the time I push the lever. When I do it that way though, I don't press and release, I sweep through the lever so as soon as the lever hits the stop my finger slips off.

@brent4adv Год назад

@@robertwhyte3435 Yea, there is also the scenario where you enable multishift so that you can hold the lever and shift multiple cogs. I think you can set this function to one cog only which means it doesn't look at the release of the lever. So not only does the software need to look for both levers to operate but it also needs to make sure you're not doing a multishift. So you press and hold the right lever; it waits for XXms for the other lever; if the other lever is not pressed within that delay it starts moving the derailleur. An interesting test would be to turn off multishift and hold the right lever. Does it shift without releasing the lever? If so then there's our answer.

@robertwhyte3435 Год назад

@@brent4adv If you don't release the lever, it will shift the number of shifts you've programmed in. I've done that and the shifter seems to wait until it knows you're not going push the other lever for a front shift before it signals the shift. My thinking with the tap was, that if you start the signal and the signal ends, then the system should stop waiting for the other shifter and just shift. Hence the sweep shift.

@davidsembiante7348 Год назад

Always enjoy your content. So often it's exactly what I need and want to hear about what's going on. Thank you so much!

@spinthatup3851 Год назад

Love it as usual Shane, especially jumping down the rabbit hole on 1x

@frankdelatank8454 Год назад

Pretty cool about the tiny buttons for FD actuating! I only have AXS on 1x setups right now. Rear shifting is VERY fast (AXS RD, Wolf Tooth chainring, KMC chain and 12s Ultegra cassette).

@bobwilkie5721 2 месяца назад

Sharp, precise, informative presentation; great stuff

@bradallen8643 Год назад

Great report as usual. Trust Shan to spot some sneaky stuff ie RD change speed on 1x v’s 2x. Good find and look’n fwd to comparison with Shimano Di2 12 speed shifting

@jamespage7182 Год назад

It's the combo action button being enabled on the primary shifters that causes additional latency before a rear shift commences. I have the combo action unassigned on the primary shifters and have enhanced sequential mode on my crit bike (which I usually disable with a single click of left paddle inner button). I usually just get around in the big ring, but can enable enhanced mode or just reach down and press the front mech if I want the small ring as I pull in for a coffee stop.

@Bob_cherry Год назад

Best Sram video on RU-vid!!

@geothunder1971 Год назад

Sram should integrate a chain catcher with their front derailleurs, that narrow chain is tough to get un stuck

@Ah_Lee_Sun Год назад

I agree, mine came off during a slight incline and became stuck inside the front chainrings. I wasn’t as heavy I would be on my Ultegra roadie setup as it was still a new bike, but the chain shredded and had to be replaced.

@paulblackwood1273 Год назад

I have 2021 AXS force and I have Ben caught out occasionally with the front shift on combo too.

@kwakeham Год назад

Two wireless buttons that need to be denounced and checked if they happen at the same time wirelessly = yes you need extra time to check if the other button comes in. If they ditched the left and right press for front derailleur and moved to a more traditional two button / paddle system they could avoid this delay. Or wires would shave about 20 - 50ms if it was hardwired to the derailleur.

@_AJH_ Год назад

yes please on the shifting speed comparison video but don't forget to add Campy for that extra level of cost!

@davet003.5 Год назад

Thanks for the Video, Shane. My LBS’ on Canada’s left coast are still waiting for AXS Wireless Shifter buttons. My order for the buttons is now over 1 year old. Dealers with stock (US, Ozzie and UK) can’t sell to Canadian addresses so I snookered. Big fail by SRAM.

@oo7squid Год назад

Power meter integrated into the chainrings are they nuts???

@Jeppelelle Год назад

Yeah, stupid move to take the worst design feature of Red and trickle it down to their cheaper option...i really hope people vote with their wallet & also tell SRAM to f-off with their braindead shenanigans

@dperreno Год назад

Agreed. I'm okay with the single-piece chainrings, but integrating the power meter as well is just stupid - especially on their non-pro version!

@Waldgeist2k10 Год назад

As an uninformed. Does that mean that you have to replace the powermeter when you replace the chainring?

@Jeppelelle Год назад

@@Waldgeist2k10 Yes

@Waldgeist2k10 Год назад

@@Jeppelelle thx. Sram is out… again.

@TDZed Год назад

Hey Shane, great video as always! Would you be able to do a video to see if you can use Shimano Cranks, cassette and chains with the SRAM AXS?? Given you have both Shimano and SRAM I think it should be fairly straight fwd. The reason I ask is I've been using the original SRAM Red eTap for around 5 years now with Shimano cranks, cassette and chains as with 11sp it makes no difference. I just find Shimano gearing is easier to source, clean, live with and it tends to be cheaper. I prefer the 24mm crank axle as I have a PF86 BB. I also like using an oval inner ring and having the option to mix and match inner and outer rings is a big plus. A friend with the new Red AXS and had to get a new PM crank as their inner ring got worn, that is ludicrous! It's clearly a money maker. Also cleaning SRAM XDR cassettes is super hard as it's has some many nooks and cranny's plus the captive lock ring. And the 10t cogs are a waste of watts. More reasons to use Shimano cassettes!!

@galenkehler Год назад

The delay in rear shifting makes sense if they've programed the system to wait to see if there is a chord before initiating the single press. If so then removing the chord by changing front shifts to an alternate button should also remove the delay, unless the chord delay is hard-coded.

@galenkehler Год назад

How does the shift speed work when in syncroshift mode? So the system isn't looking for a chord?

@CharroRS 10 месяцев назад

Terrific review as always! Important question-can the “combination action” front derailleur shifting be turned off and with “sequential” enhanced mode turned on, in essence achieving the “full synchro” setting on Shimano Di2? If yes, then this would eliminate any lag requirement for combination action enabling more rapid shifting (as observed with AXS 1X setups). Does this combination of settings achieve more rapid rear derailleur shifting on the SRAM AXS 2X setup? Thanks GPLama!

@justsomedude7556 Год назад

Figures, right after I upgraded a bike to axs, they drip the new version. I hate the lack of a rim brake option, however, since it all works with prior versions , I can keep my rim shifters and replace with the new stuff if needed. I do like the look of the chain rings though.

@billmaidment5623 Год назад

Force rim shifter prices are out of control.

@PaganiZondaF650hp 7 месяцев назад

⁠@@billmaidment5623 down the line rim brake axs shifter prices will really be out of control. But here in Germany, where we are blessed with many big online retailers, stock is low but demand is low as well… I just purchased a red etap axs rim brake upgrade kit with shifter, derailleurs and batteries for 900€. Was kind of contemplating on wether prices would drop a bit more once the new Red gets launched, but didn’t want to risk missing out on the last rim brake shifter units.

@ignaciosevil2157 4 месяца назад

Would be interesting to have the T type XX SL power meter reviewed sir. for the xc / enduro bunch! thanks!!!!

@jdh895 Год назад

Sadly unless they've changed the app/firmware you won't be able to un-assign the combo action to change chainrings and replace it with the blips. I tried to go down this line previously, and was told by SRAM that this wasn't possible (with either wired or wireless satellite shifters). Your only option would be to go full syncro.

@jaredjackson8097 Год назад

Yup. I own Shimano Di2 bikes but decided to put Rival AXS on an older rim frame with no internal routing provisions just to tinker. I'm no into SRAM. Coming from Di2, both the front and rear shifting on SRAM AXS is for sure slower. Noticeably. I have a mechanical R8000 group laying around as well and I can say for sure R8000 mechanical shifts faster than AXS. I'll be selling the AXS stuff asap.

@ThatRoadCyclistUHate Год назад

Just disabled combo shift on my levers and put it on my wireless blips, will give it a test and see. Update felt crisper no slow shits, might unpair the FD and confirm.

@pretend8r Год назад

How did you go? Faster RD shifting?

@ThatRoadCyclistUHate Год назад

@@pretend8r could be placebo but I felt like it was a crisper on the rear shifts, definitely have noticed random slow/delayed shifts with sram before.

@joachimlyth509 Год назад

Great summary video, thanks! Would be interesting to see a comparision with Rival... Apart from the crankset, it seems most things have trickled-up from Rival. What are the reasons for going with Force instead of Rival then? Happy days!

@bebopman5 Год назад

The new Force vs Rival comes down to weight and improved front derailleur.

@samelgore7575 9 месяцев назад

SRAM offers Sequential Gear Shifting that you can set up on your phone app. Right hand, shifts up to the next ratio, Left hand shifts down a ratio. So One click can move both derailleurs.Holding down the right shifter will get you the fastest gear confusion. The opposite for the left shifter. No confusion here.

@blkwrxwag Год назад

Do you think a Rival left side power meter crank will fit into the new Force chainring?

@jonathanzappala Год назад

Looks like it would match the non sworks venge paint job perfectly, too bad they don’t make it anymore.

@WowRixter Год назад

I can't get my head around the direct mount chainrings/PM. How incredibly expensive and environmentally unfriendly

@crankgreenwatts Год назад

Running mechanical Force on my Planet-X EC130E and been thinking about upgrading to AXS. Still unsure whether it is worth it 🤔

@glennoc8585 Год назад

Shifters look much better first off. Curious to know how long the PM holds charge.

@LoaforDie Год назад

Red looking chainrings. I guess that’s the only thing I like about it.

@wong5150 Год назад

Could I mount a new force axs gen2 chainring direct mount to my old force axs gen1 dzero quarq power meter?

@jjj-be4ny Год назад

The charger is definitely the most innovative product of the year

@RichardWait Год назад

Any news on micro adjust on a per cog basis, more than the whole cassette? Digging the new chain!

@gplama Год назад

No mention of that.

@AndyLeeJordan Год назад

So a setup with the prior generation XPLR and the separate spider PM (not direct-mount) is only 12g heavier because of the changes to the hoods, no other changes at all right? I got caught out buying exactly that two days before they launched sparkle pony.

@raedgindeyamunoz1801 6 месяцев назад

This video review is great. I’m just very curious on how to perform de % upscaling on the SRAM axs app to adjust the power meter % error gap.

@gplama 6 месяцев назад

You shouldn’t need to unless you can confirm the calibration is incorrect.

@whizler Год назад

Seems like Force basically got new make-up. Fortunately you didn't drop a chain (yet 😄). Too bad SRAM couldn't reduce the shifting latency, which would have been the best improvement, but at least they didn't increase prices. Or perhaps they just couldn't - a good sign for the industry as a whole?

@darrengreen7906 Год назад

On a side-note, How did the Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres perform??? ( I'm currently using Gp5000s TR with Vitorria Air liners)

@stephenbetley9596 Год назад

Love it when you can zap through power data sans rabbit holes. Certainly giving Shimano a run for their money now. Noticed certain bike companies putting SRAM Rival on their mid - lower end bikes instead of Shimano. Bucket list new 12spd road bike might just be going to the dark side. Is Combo shifting SRAMs version of synchro shifting like Di2?

@gplama Год назад

SRAM have a version of Synchro that’s almost identical to Di2.

@TheeMortgageGuy Год назад

I'd say you're seeing less Shimano due to supply chain issues. Those are going away and no doubt shimano bike will be back.

@stevehartmann8560 Год назад

Will you be doing a video on new Shimano CUES system and explain it and the impact on the road groupsets?

@gplama Год назад

Not on the cards at this point.

@hughjanus7354 Год назад

Isn't the delay with front derailleur a feature rather than a bug? Since switching front requires pressing 2 buttons at the same time, it's obvious that system must allow more time as a buffer since it's difficult to press 2 buttons in exactly same moment, especially when riding. Hence you get the slight delay which adjusts for "was it really one button, or was it one button followed by another".

@gplama Год назад

Yes. It’s by design. I didn’t call it a bug.

@katleendemetser3165 Год назад

Hi Shane. The front gears are 1 piece along with the powermeter. When you need to change these is it also buy a new powermeter?

@AshrakAhmed Год назад

if you still want a powermeter than Yes. the chainring and meter is a combo unit. you can get a new chainring without meter but you won't be able to get the powermeter out of the new Force chainring.

@KJMos93 Год назад

im sad to see the auxiliary ports go. I like the blip shifters but will never buy the battery powered kind unless they make the batteries replaceable. They really are trying to make a throw-away groupset.

@flooooooo0686 Год назад

Already switched to the one piece chainring 2 years ago (red with force cranks) since the shifting with the two piece rings was always horrible and they creaked. Good that they fixed this but that’s the only real improvement I can see here…shifter hoods without buttons on-top is disappointing

@gplama Год назад

A built-in blip on each lever would be a useful addition.

@pmcmpc Год назад

Disappointing they didn't change FD design so that 2x would work with the XPLR cassettes. But when does Red come? We already saw the new GRX style levers on some Jumbo bikes.

@bebopman5 Год назад

The 1x restriction for xplr is related more to the rear derailleur than the front. The top pulley placement is like their eagle axs derailleur, so using 2x with it would be a no-go.

@Armenian Год назад

Is the XPLR Rear Deraillure updated as well?

@gplama Год назад

Yep. It also comes in Sparkle Pony colours.

@robschafer2723 Год назад

Any update on wireless blip use for RockShox Reverb AXS dropper post?

@gplama Год назад

That's a no from SRAM. support.sram.com/hc/en-us/articles/6225013965211-Can-I-use-SRAM-eTap-AXS-Wireless-Blips-with-my-Reverb-AXS-seatpost-

@andrewburkhardt7230 Год назад

How’d ya like the soloist? A little disappointed that sram didn’t do much in the shifting speed or the FD problem department.

@gplama Год назад

The Soloist feels almost identical to my 2019 TCR. The only difference being when out of the saddle going full gas it's a little more stable.

@saynotothegreatreset Год назад

Sram just going downhill with this integrated power meter . what's next disposable bikes ?

@MinDinTub Год назад

Do you have any data on the Wide power meter (which seems to be the same as the Rival PMs)?

@gplama Год назад

Not yet

@mrwezbo Год назад

Can't fault the look of the old one though - the black-on-black is pure sex appeal

@craigwooldridge6343 Год назад

If only SRAM could supply parts to existing customers without a 1 year wait for simple parts like a chain ring.

@ignaciosevil2157 4 месяца назад

friend, are you sure the power meter will be discarded after wearing out the chainring? seems rather insane to me. Isnt it like 400$? LOL

@Madtriboy Год назад

Is the new force rear RD and cassette quieter that the old etap force tractor ?

@gplama Год назад

Apparently so.

@jakubklouda2474 Год назад

@shane - 1x powermeter - dual side or 1 side?

@gplama Год назад

The spindle power meter is single sided.

@19drexel75 4 месяца назад

Did you ever manage to get wireless blips to work the FD? I seen a post on Reddit where you said it can only be assigned to "change front" option rather than "FD Up" and "FD Down" and wondered if this is still the same. Getting a new bike with Force AXS and had said to put on a set of blips to almost have a Campagnolo type thumb shifter for FD but if it don't work I'll save the money, or spend it on something else.

@gplama 4 месяца назад

The front shift logic is still a toggle... and can only be assigned to ONE blip. Every time I'm talking to my contacts at SRAM I tell them I'd like to see an advanced mode where people can assign UP and DOWN front shifting. It'd allow your exact configuration (which I also want). I suspect it'd help out a lot when people drop a chain and need to put the bike back into the 'big ring' to push the chain back on. At present if someone throws a chain on the inside when the FD is in the outer most position, changing the FD does sweet f*k all.... With Shimano front shift logic at least you can keep smashing the "BIG RING" button with one hand and hope for the best.

@19drexel75 4 месяца назад

@@gplama Thanks Shane. Would have been nice to add at the start of a build but I'll hold off and if SRAM change this later I can add the blips when changing bartape.

@ribbyramone Год назад

When there's a sentence that contains words "best", "SRAM" and "FD" in the same sentence, I smile.

@gplama Год назад

Was there one in this video?

@ribbyramone Год назад

@@gplama no, because your information is objective and accurate!

@ribbyramone Год назад

@@gplama it was in one of the slides in SRAM's product preso

@AdamLechner Год назад

Does it come with 2x WIDE option? Is the tyre cleareance of 2x WIDE still 45mm only?

@gplama Год назад

There’s a wide FD, so that’d be a yes. Not sure on max tyre clearances.

@richcole3931 Год назад

7:03 which chainring configuration is compatible with DZero power meter? I'm trying to find a workaround to the integrated power/chainring that SRAM mysteriously increased in price to $600 after launch. Thanks for the great vid.

@gplama Год назад

Following your post over on ESC discord. They’ve got you covered for answers there. 👌🏼

@richcole3931 Год назад

@@gplama Thanks! Did you happen to notice any tangible shifting difference between old and new Force front derailleurs?

@gplama Год назад

@@richcole3931 Nope.

@richcole3931 Год назад

@@gplama Thanks. One particular Bike Radar unboxing said that shifting differences were noticable due to redesigned cage, but sounds like that might be a placebo effect.

@robertstainthorpe8258 Год назад

Re: "Be sure to wax the chain to preserve the power meter crank..." Yes, I wax my chain every 300kms. SRAM mention their PowerLink needs to be used/closed only once so that could add up.

@JoseSorianoPhotography Год назад

Can you install a force single side power meter to the old force?

@gplama Год назад

That should work. The chainlines remain the same.

@JoseSorianoPhotography Год назад

@@gplama thank you! I just checked. The only issue is having a mismatched crank arm

@leandermeulebroeck Год назад

Pm becomming e waste when the chainring is worn means no SRAM for me.

@LifeCycle1978 Год назад

Not that I disagree, but SRAM is offering 50% off a new PM/Chainring with the exchange of the old worn set which they will then recycle. Plus, those chainrings do not wear easily.

@nbarbieri1201 Год назад

Why would they not make a replaceable 1 piece double chainring?

@LifeCycle1978 Год назад

@@nbarbieri1201 per SRAM, it is about maintaining stiffness. I could flip that question a bit, why can’t Shimano make a replaceable chainring that doesn’t shatter under power? Neither SRAM nor Shimano chainrings with power are within my budget but they seem to work for those that use them, with some exceptions.

@markmaidment2039 Год назад

Is the SRAM Force AXS integrated power meter dual sided like the Red?

@gplama Год назад

The spider version measures total power. The spindle version is left only.

@markmaidment2039 Год назад

@@gplama Thanks for the quick reply. Love your work. I and allot of other people really appreciate the content you provide. A+ grade stuff

@billmaidment5623 Год назад

No rim brake compatibility or button integration for controlling a bike computer?

@gplama Год назад

No and no.

@billmaidment5623 Год назад

@@gplama missed opportunity especially on controlling computers.

@Mike0 Год назад

SRAM Red XG-1290 Cassette Rainbow Colourway £358 £358!

@gplama Год назад

Similar to XX1 Rainbow I suspect.

@michwoz Год назад

No way in hell I would go for power meter integrated with chainrings. Unfortunately, it's likely gonna be pushed to consumers on retail bikes, for additional price, with no choice given.

@svenmehl2046 Год назад

what are the new crank lengths ?

@gplama Год назад

Nothing outlined from SRAM, so it’s safe to assume the same options as before.

@spinthatup3851 Год назад

Sizes are: 165mm, 167.5mm, 170mm, 172.5mm, 175mm, 177.5mm

@JordanHammond7 Год назад

Do the new hoods work with old Force?

@gplama Год назад

Yep

@JordanHammond7 Год назад

@@gplama time to get comfy.

@ricardo_marmotti Год назад

The rainbow stickers looks like the ones I had on my plastic Transformer toys back in the 80's. Looks cheap.

@gplama Год назад

SRAM Megatron!

@drsus0 Год назад

"once the chainrings are worn" ...sram said they had 0.7% inquiries to replace worn red chainrings since its introduction..and why after all the complaining about it, they decide it was a moot point by now and the benefits far outweigh the critic's concerns.

@TheeMortgageGuy Год назад

Had a mate have his Red chainrings go bad, and he's meticulous with care. Less than a year old, waxed chains etc. They said end of life, had to buy new rings/power meter.

@harrybbbb Год назад

Could anyone tell me if this will work with 11 speed. My wheels are all 11 speed and I don’t want the bother or cost of changing over cassettes. Anyone?

@gplama Год назад

No. You'll need to update the full drivetrain.

@harrybbbb Год назад

@@gplama Thanks for the reply Shane. That’s what I thought but a guy posted on RU-vid saying it works fine. Last cog is a ghost shift. 🙈🙈🙈

@belizon Год назад

I bought a new Evo rim brake with ultegra for 1000 euros. Cycling has gone mad.

@MrCairnsbryce Год назад

Wonder if it’s time to pickup a red or old force, I am not a fan of the 80’s hologram

@jwfriar Год назад

Great vid. Regarding the chainring shifting catching you off guard - I think a bit unfair for 2 reason. 1. Why not put it in syncro? It shifts for you. And 2. just clip in pedals, you fall once and learn. Can’t assume people won’t adapt. And with that, if you’re in syncro, I wonder if that speeds up rear shifting as it wont need to know if you’re double pressing.

@gplama Год назад

I see nothing unfair about discussing the operation of eTap… and my experience with it. I hope this adds value to my content and sets it apart from the standard coverage of bike tech you’ll see elsewhere. Has anyone else dug into the shift speeds and a potential option to speed it up?

@jwfriar Год назад

@@gplama The bit about slower shifting was great. Good insight - appreciate it. Meant the bit about being being caught off guard shifting to little ring accidentally. I’m gonna guess you won’t do it again bc you’ll just know which ring you’re in. Any new system requires people to adapt.

@donojuano Год назад

Dissapointed brakes didn't get improved, also RD needs some work compared to Shimano's. And the PM... Sram come on!

@gplama Год назад

They said there was some work on the callipers/pistons but were extremely vague about it.... well... compared to all the raving about the sparkle pony colours.

@robertstainthorpe8258 Год назад

So, does this mean the shifters can't have mechanical brakes at all? Poor form SRAM. Looks like Shimano 105 DI2 it is.

@akhiltrandapuppi3864 Год назад

All deraulers restyling force, chainring red, leavers rival... What a mixshite

@donwinston Год назад

Ultegra is better if you don't include Shimano's power meter.

@Phantom0309 Год назад

the whole integrated chain ring topic is ludicrous, a chain ring is a consumable item, a powermeter is not!

@michaelsteven1090 Год назад

I have the '22 version and its horrible..Slow, clunky, and every other ride I drop off the front chainring..Crap...Shouldve stuck with Ultegra di2

@gplama Год назад

Life is short. Sell it and move on if it’s not working.

@galenkehler Год назад

Rather than a multi-socket fast charger, they should make an internal frame battery with a wiring harness to go out to each unit. The number of batteries on some bikes is getting ridiculous (2x derailleur, 2x shocks, dropper post)

@trepidati0n533 Год назад

The whole point of SRAM wireless is WIRELESS!

@galenkehler Год назад

@@trepidati0n533you could still have the shifting signal as wireless, but just having non-smart wires just for power. The convenience of having one battery would be nice.

@mikelogan2684 Год назад

NO Rim brake Force AXS WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jonathanzappala Год назад

$120 for a battery charger. Criminal.

@StanislavGrabchev Год назад

Pretty boring update tbh, but what can you accept anyway

@frits8986 Год назад

Swapping out your power meter when chain rings are worn. Really SRAM? That is just a complete load of crap. I’ll stick with my trusty Ultegra.

@bendardania Год назад

This is rival 2.0. Aka new Force. Completely disappointed by sram. Embarrassing!

@playmoreguitar5393 Год назад

Why do you say that? Just throwing out random shit on the internet because? Best part is you probably not even remotely in the market for Force. And if you so disappointed with how shit Force is please get Red or go to shitmano. Thanks. Cheers

@Stoffendous Год назад

Yeh totally sucks

@Megadeth6633 Год назад

Wear the chainring and swap the power meter? wtf? What a waste, I'm not even one those eco friendly freaks but what a waste.

@astrayagrarian Год назад

Another shitty modern day disc brake groupset.

@gplama Год назад

What? No crack at the electronic shifting… or the front derailleur!? If you’re going to complain about a product you don’t like then there’s a few criteria you need to meet before shitting on discs there Froomy. 😉

@astrayagrarian Год назад

@@gplama *yawn*