Niacin - Better Than Your Statin? 

I’m still shocked in 2024 a Dr is taking statins 😬

I did all the above that you did couldn't reduce my cholesterol.

@@snezanavl8580 ☹️

We do intermittent fasting also works AWESOME! Also doing the CARNIVORE DIET! No more Statins or blood pressure meds! Lost 75 pounds in 2 months! FEEL AWESOME!

YES! 🎉 Thanks for the post, I found the same

Sounds like all good things and changes! Great on improving numbers.

Inspirational! How lucky your mom is to have your super-informed support.

Great approach

My cholesterol collapsed starting with working out at a gym with heavy weights last year and as of spring this year continues to decline.

Why did you attached your mams colesterol, are you insane?

Dr Steven GUNDRY, a cardiologist says cholesterol isn’t the problem it’s Triglycerides. Go on a Keto diet, cut out anything made from flour, potatoes and rice. Eat meat, fish, low glycemic vegetables, nuts and berries.

Some would consider being brain dead but alive to be a clinical success. Not in my book. Fix the diet, find ways to reduce fasting glucose level.... And use finger sticks as guidance to assess. Before meal, 30 min after, 90 min after.

@@bonniebenz8792He also says avoid tomatoes but Italians eat them every day

@@bonniebenz8792 Triglycerides also drop when you take niacin.

Thanks! You too!

How about berberine?

Same statin prescribed by my treating Physician. Three weeks in and my sleep was wrecked, wake up wired for sound every 2 1/2 - three hours, muscle cramps, and my short term memory tanked. I was on a half dose, quit statin and a couple weeks later I was back to normal. Went Carnivore and feel great. Labs soon so we'll see.

Please let us know!

I threw my statin out

​@@teddybear4020 Have you tried niacin or red yeast rice?

Other than gas and getting the shits, what can go wrong with it?

Z shades the anti-Niacin argument by failing to provide the statistical probability of harm from use. Just another MD talking out his uniformed/misinformed ass. Do your own research and stay with peer review journal papers. Stiff reads but well worth the effort and you actually learn some new things..

Please describe your takeaway. If absolute efficacy matters, and we go from 4% to 2%, then 98% of customers were not helped. 2% were beyond help. 2% were helped. 96% contributed to the financial performance of the industry.

Sounds like my gf when she asks me to chk her during... 😊😆

Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing

There is flushing and non flushing. 500 mg will leave you looking like you are sunburned for 3hrs. If you are going to take larger doses take the non flushing kind. You will turn much less red

It's embarassing but it's not dangerous... but try telling that to third parties. You can get around the flushing problem by using slow release inositol hexanicotinate which relies on enzymatic action... and thus still has the same benefits as normal niacin. It wasn't mentioned in any of the studies the doctors referenced.

How much lemon juice?

Similar to “Fire Cider” but you let the concoction ferment and sip off it for days or months.

Quack Quack!

Where is the data, source?

Thanks. We do our best to be objective. We aren’t selling niacin or statins 😀

Reducing plaque sounds like the objective here. Stabilizing plaque with Calcium sounds like a good idea until you consider if you want it there at all. Cavadex seems like another path to losing plaque. Last i'd heard there were problems with hearing loss?

@@JohnWest4 it appears that Cavadex turns stabilized plaque into soft plaque (the dangerous type) which doesn’t sound good for the risk factors at all!

​@@danteburritar2822especially if your business model relies on people to be scared of eliminating their atherosclerotic accumulada. That's c what we have stations for, for the rest of your life. If it helps 15% of people, is it unnecessary for 85% of people?

I take 1000 mil of non flush a day and after a year my cholesterol dropped, so both types work

​@@danteburritar2822 where can I read about that?

Enjoy. We went to NL last year and saw a lot of ice bergs and other beautiful scenery and fauna and wonderful people.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

I take about 4 tablespoons a day with no change to my (inherited) cholesterol but still taking the psyllium. Body doesn't tolerate statins.

@@susieqbrown that's unfortunate. I've only done one test after taking psyllium. I was very surprised with the results and couldn't explain it any other way. My diet is very healthy but not sure it will have such a drastic impact. I wish you the best!

I bet your colesterol is 225 again today, the colesterol is what it should be!

@@Kjuken69 Possiblity. Will find out with the next test.

You can buy no flush niacin

@@mikeshay4866 But I heard that it needs to be the flushing kind. I don't know, I'm not a Doc I wish they had touched on that.

Has to be the flush one

@@carync131 Inositol hexanicotinate is no-flush but works like normal niacin. It uses enzymatic action to release one niacin molecule at a time and works better than normal niacin. None of the studies the doctors referenced used this form... but it's the form that doctors and patients prefer. :-)

Keep taking statins... they'll help you forget about everything.

My grandma is 101 has had extremely high blood pressure since the 1950s and she eats processed crap, coffee and grape soda and she’s still sharp

I recently signed up with Root Cause Medical in Maryland. It is functional medicine.The program last 16 weeks. Hopefully it may help you.

@@user-mz6sh2xr7f Thank you I will check it out. Bless you!

Clinical practice and medical research could be isolated from the profit motivation. New cures and treatments could be found without the profit motivation of the researchers. Does anyone else see a potential conflict of interest here?

Give me some references. Not just one but several and I will read up on it.

​@@billwilliams44think for yourself! How could colesterol be dangerous? Use your brain

@@Kjuken69 too much cholesterol causes people to misspell words.

My mom suffered a massive stroke due to high cholesterol twenty years ago. She was put on a daily statin ever since, and thankfully she hasn’t suffered any other illness. My grandmother who also suffered from high cholesterol died recently in her nineties after taking statins for as long as I can remember.

@@Kjuken69 use my brain. Help me here. I want to understand your logic.

I think he suggested not taking it.

500 mg is the sweet spot for niacin. Take the slow release Inositol hexanicotinate and if you don't want the flush but still want the other benefits. It's normal niacin but relies on enzymatic action to release it slowly. Works like magic. N.B. It wasn't the kind of niacin they mentioned in the video. 🙂

An ordinary multi vitamin does not have plenty of Niacin in the higher dose, nor is it usually even the right kind of niacin. Still, there is no magic pill, and I can say this from experience.

You are talking about niacinamide not niacin. It is in all the multivitamins, but is very different and doesn't work to lower cholesterol like niacin.

@@normainafuku-pw9zm That is correct. The Niacin that makes you tingle and flush is the right one.

If your cholesterol hasn't dropped then you're not taking enough niacin. The amount of niacin in foods obviously isn't sufficient otherwise you wouldn't have a cholesterol problem?

@@MichaelCzajka Niacin is not the cure. It only covers up the symptoms.

I finally got a better lipid panel with radical healthy eating and intermittent fasting.

But it doesn't cause dementia that have taken for 20 yrs it didn't for some, now what

Statins caused diabetes to my mother. Statin diabetes caused diamentia. I threw statins in the garbage bin ans diabetes reversed. Also dementia stopped developing. She also got macular degeneration from statin diabetes.

Yes statins go through the blood brain barrier and reduce cholesterol production. The brain makes its own cholesterol.

@@stuarthutt3740 so is it good or bad thing?

Thank you for sharing your experience

Agree

Inositol hexanicotinate is slow release niacin that has all the same benefits as normal niacin but doesn't cause flushing... or if it does it's only very mild. It's not the niacin mentioned in the studies. It relies on enzymatic action to release one molecule of niacin at a time. The slow release works much better than the massive dump that normal niacin causes. 🙂

​@@MichaelCzajka I thought I read, about 40 years ago, that nicotinic acid has some benefits that niacinamide doesn't have. It's been a long time, and it would not be trivial to look it up, but I have a pretty good idea where I read it, and I probably could look it up, if I were subjected to enough pressure. But I just had another thought. Doesn't tryptophan make niacin available? Isn't that actually the source of most of it? If so, there could be a danger in a diet that is low in protein. I'm not talking about insanely low, like someone with kwashiorkor or some such thing. But there seems to be a notion going around that less dietary protein slows aging. I think that may be really misguided. If you have a low-protein diet, that can cause problems. I've noticed some problems in my own experience. BTW I'm not talking about problems of long-term health. If I'm too short on protein, I just don't function well. And if you eat a diet like that, I wonder if that could lead to a niacin deficiency. Something to that?

@@ronaldgarrison8478 Niacinimde doesn't have all the benefits of niacin. Niacin is more effective. That seems to be well accepted. The main reason people take niacinimide is to avoid the flush from niacin... which can be very uncomfortable. The Inositol form of niacin allows you to get all the benefits with virtually none of the flush. If you get the flush (usually very mild) you can take 5 mg of folic acid and it disappears. That seems to work much faster than taking an aspirin: Sublingual tablet works very quickly i.e. A few minutes

@@ronaldgarrison8478 Look up the Journal of Ortholecular Medicine and niacin. They wrote a good summary of niacin and they reference inositol hexanicotinate. They point out that inositol hexanicotinate was the form favoured by the most famous proponents of niacin. For some reason this fact gets glossed over in most publications :-)

Yes it does that.

Glad to hear it

How much are you taking?

@@susieqbrown 100mg daily and I added peanuts to my diet which are also a good source. Remarkable results!

Ha Paul and Brad!

Oh wow! Thanks for sharing

There is also a no flushing version of niacin

@@user-jf4zh7lb2q That's a good thing. However labs showed the Niacin having a diminishing effect from the beginning. I was not informed of any other Niacin options, but it didn't matter because it wasn't working.

Statins = poison

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback...

Yeah we did. Thanks

Did it work?

Me too Natto, bromelain and serrapeptase. Oh, and lumbrokinase. I take all 4 on an empty stomach. When I missed a day, arthritis pain jumped back at me. Googled and found that enzymes do have a function in pain. ❤🎉 Bless all of us who are refusing to roll over and play dead.

Correct 👍

Try the inositol hexanicotinate version of niacin. It is slow release using enzymatic action... as a result you don't flush (or it's very mild). You can also eliminate the flush by taking folic acid (5mg)... which improves the metabolism of niacin but doesn't change the way it works. This is the form that many of the older doctors use(d)... but not the one being quoted in the negative studies. 🙂

@@MichaelCzajka ~ Interesting 👍

In my opinion, lower blood glucose trumps lower cholesterol every time. Congratulations on your progress! Have you come across Dr Eric Westman on RU-vid? He often says, "Cholesterol is not a disease". Have you had a Coronary Artery Calcium Test? Dr W would say that if the results of that are good, you don't need to worry about cholesterol.

@@alexandrawhite7614 no I haven’t. They put me back in statin and I’ll have my enzymes rechecked in June. They said I may have to see a cardiologist if my enzymes go back up. I’ll check this doctor out. Thank you! It’s amazing how much better I feel now that I e cut all the garbage out.

Nicitinamide is the wrong Niacin too. It's the flushing type called nicotinic acid that you should use. It's so confusing.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. This study has been invalidated on many levels.

@@TalkingWithDocs It is not an opinion as the study was not funded by any food, pharma or religious group, they are selling nothing and it is validated unless you can provide evidence but you have zero credentials in this field. This study is validated as it applies to all cultures around the globe.

@@TalkingWithDocs Please explain to Zalzal how these slim and fit, non smoking long term Chinese vegetarians taking no medications with a BMI of 22 hurt their cardiovascular health. 2005 article "Vascular Dysfunction in Chinese Vegetarians: An Apparent Paradox?" The CIMT does not lie. This is validated based on the evidence of the CIMT.

I agree low cholesterol is associated with all cause death. There are more studies now that prove it. And it is not reversed causality they also looked at that in new studies. One reason is that statins cause premature death.

Newer studies confirm the same low ldl is because of chronic inflammation, muscle loss and malnutrition

It is necessary for sure

So is water. But there is a limit, beyond which both turn poisonous.

@@TalkingWithDocs you want to know what one of the greatest source of heart disease? Check this out: Here are some key studies that have found a link between periodontal disease and coronary heart disease: 1. A 2016 systematic review and meta-analysis published in the Journal of the American Heart Association examined 22 studies with over 175,000 participants. The researchers concluded that individuals with periodontal disease had a 1.14 times higher risk of developing coronary heart disease compared to those without periodontal disease. 2. A 2020 study in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology followed over 300,000 individuals for an average of 8 years. They found that participants with severe periodontitis had a 49% higher risk of developing coronary heart disease compared to those with healthy gums. 3. A 2018 study in the Journal of the American Heart Association followed over 7,000 adults for 15 years. The researchers reported that individuals with more severe periodontal disease at baseline had a 25% higher risk of developing coronary heart disease events during the follow-up period. 4. A 2017 study in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology examined data on over 100,000 individuals. The study showed that those with a history of periodontal disease treatment had a 28% lower risk of coronary heart disease events compared to those without a history of periodontal treatment. 5. A 2015 meta-analysis in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology reviewed 22 studies and concluded that the presence of periodontal disease was associated with a 1.24 times higher risk of developing coronary heart disease. These studies provide consistent evidence that periodontal disease is an independent risk factor for the development of coronary heart disease. The mechanisms likely involve systemic inflammation and the spread of oral bacteria to the cardiovascular system.

What brand, amount are you taking? Statins don't agree with me. thanks

​@@susieqbrownI'm not sure what brand I am actually taking my family gets it for me at the pharmacy so but it really did lower my cholesterol there's a lot of research on things you can also look up Dr Guthrie he also is a doctor who recommends niacin as well so I hope this helps

Statins make me blind. WHY?

It’s cause heart attack

Last week report from Mayo clinic showed Niacin increases inflammation. Also please don't take nonflush Niacin which is definitely harmful? ❤❤

They do test for it. That’s how you know you have it, right? And you are right, you cannot donate blood.

@billwilliams44 They don't test on a regular basis. I found out when I broke my shoulder. Apparently, it's very common, and you don't even know you have it. Usually, it's found by chance when tested for something else. I had even called my doctors office to see if I could donate blood, and they didn't know they gave me a number to call, and the guy said that I could, but common sense told me no. Thank you for your reply.

@@junedolson1642 it is common but knowing you have it doesn’t really help much so screening everyone isn’t done.

Yes just make sure it has some - not all do

butter is better and make sure it's from grass fed and finished cows.

Which one is the big doctor?