NICEIC ASSESSMENT PREPARATION | TIPS AND HACKS

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In this video I show you a guide on the NICEIC technical assessment and tips and hacks on preparation.
If you become a NICEIC domestic installer or approved contractor, you will undergo an inspection by the NICEIC where an area engineer visits your head office or home.
Being fully prepared for your assessment is the key.
By being organised, helps the area engineer in performing their task more efficiently.
This means you can ask your own questions about technical standards, industry best practice and advice on how the NICEIC can support you in your business.
General advice about how to prepare for your assessment:
Office premises - usually the Area Engineer will need to see your office, whether this is within your home or a seaparate business address.
Office procedures and paperwork - usually checked whilst at your office. Ensure that all relevant policies, procedures and insurances are documented and readily available to show the Area Engineer.
Installation records - including installation certificates raised against completed work including building regulations notifications (where applicable).
Technical qualifications - of the nominated Qualified Supervisor are also checked as part of the office assessment.
Technical reference documents - ensure these are up to date and readily available for access.
Test instruments and leads - ensure that these have up to date service records, accuracy logs and are available on the day of assessment for use.
On site work - ensure that there is suitable work for the Area Engineer to inspect. This includes checking that access on the required day is possible.
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@Andrew_Tate_Personal 5 лет назад

Bladey ell mate I’m a plasterer I was considering becoming an electrician but all these exams are insane. Costs over £10 grand to get the C&G 1/2/3levs and other certs. As a plasterer all i ever needed was a cscs card and that cost me £100 and was over in a few days lol. Nice and easy mate no headache lol and I make £160 a day 7 hours work (1 hour break). Not bad money for a job you don’t have to give a sh!t about. Respect to you guys it’s so much effort being an electrician. Not for everyone

@timwilliams555 3 года назад

Hi Dan loved the video. I've just gone by myself and I want to go with niceic, if they need to go to a job to assess you how can you sign it off if you're not registered?

@mikeenglish1492 4 года назад

Very informational, you seem very organised

@alexgreenman2289 6 лет назад

Hi Dan, I became an approved contractor with the NIC beginning of last year after incorporating the business. Business is going great and my assessor is happy with what i do, Just watched your video to see the difference between what other companies goes through to myself. Great video, just wanted to say that really!

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

Cheers man and hope business is booming for you!!

@MartiA1973 6 лет назад

A real insight into the procedure, thank you.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

I am glad it helped!

@danielmeredith1913 6 лет назад

Dan thanks for a brilliant video, your advice is very helpful and your effort is much appreciated.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

I am glad it was useful.

@babytae3150 5 лет назад

Hi Dan I'm an air conditioning and Refrigeration service engineer with over 30 years experience, I'm in the process of transitioning into Domestic automation ( ie smart homes ) and would be interested in attaining the part p certification for domestic electrical only as it will provide me with the skills to complete a domestic automation install from start to finish. Please recommend the institutions and process on which courses I'll have to take, I'm located in Uxbridge Respectfully N

@montystelevision3238 3 года назад

This video is super useful

@Mandolorian9379 6 лет назад

Hi Dan excellent video just one question I have. Does the qs need to be employed by the same company as the duty holder? Good luck on your travels.

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

To my knowledge, no..... but you'll have to ask the NICEIC that question. The reason I am saying no is because they asked for no evidence of employment and I know they could be self employed

@donnierobertson3088 5 лет назад

good job

@fadialanda3170 5 лет назад

Thank you dans

@TheShortPositive 4 года назад

how you have legal certificates that they can check before you join them????

@yuniszabdow6671 6 лет назад

fantastic lesson

@misterkazmi 6 лет назад

man you made my day thank you very much! ;-)

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Current Affairs kind words! Glad to help 😁👍

@jchattey 6 лет назад

Great video Dan, I've just started out as a domestic installer and looking to become NICEIC approved. My concern is that the work I do is mainly minor works, additions and alterations etc. Nothing notifiable yet, would the assessor expect to see evidence that you've carried out notifiable work i.e. CU installs, rewires etc?

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Jake Chattey I can't speak on behalf of the NICEIC but check out this link below. Click on a scroll box to scheme requirements and you can download a PDF for the scheme. By the looks of it providing you carry out electrical installations, have an H&S policy, insurance, complaints procedure, safe isolation procedure and few other bits I can't see a problem with you applying www.niceic.com/join-us/approved-contractor-scheme

@russellbroom2114 4 года назад

Hello Dan, Great video, laid back and informative, just the ticket. I have been in the industry for many years in all sorts of aspects. However late in the day, I am determined become "legit". Obviously not easy, but you have given me some motivation, thank-you [how much is the current bribe??]

@DanstheEngineer 4 года назад

Thanks Russell and best of luck. I'm not sure what the current bribe is. Due to coronavirus, perhaps some crypto currency ha

@aghadimi12345 6 лет назад

I really enjoyed your video and thanks for giving the info I am just preparing myself to book for assessment date in 4 weeks time and may ask you for advice when the date is given. Thank you and all the best Ali

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

faraz ghadimi anytime. Just comment here if you have any questions and I'll help where I can!

@simont190 4 года назад

Example I just completed a months training for city and guilds domestic installer including 18th edition. Contacted niceic they asked have you worked in the industry for 2 years I said no (honest answer) then you cannot join for 2 years. I asked where it said this on there website? Buried on page 12 of brochure. But when you click on there join us link on the site it says quite boldly join us within 3 weeks. No mention of 2 years experience. I rephoned and said I have 2 years experience (no evidence requested) was told I could arrange an assesment immediately no mention of 2 years experience required. When they discovered it was me call was diverted to a higher up who then refused to proceed. When I asked what 2 years experience was they could not tell me. When I pushed them it could be as simple as 4 items of work done over the 2 years. Judge for yourself. Is that rectum protectum. Or raising the standards In The industry?

@TheShortPositive 4 года назад

what if i don”t have any private jobs? Can i bring him on site?

@montystelevision3238 3 года назад

Hi Dan, How does this work for a new applicant given NICEIC notifiable work cannot be done unless someone is NICEIC registered? So how can you show the inspector notifiable work if you are a new applicant?

@DanstheEngineer 3 года назад

It is actually the home owners responsibility to ensure the work is notified but I recommend you can either do a job and have it certified and notified by another contractor. Obviously ensure the trust is there. Or do a notifiable job prior to your assessment and notify once you have accreditation.

@alvinashman6371 6 лет назад

Great video Dan, I intend to go self-employed this year and will inevitably be joining the NICEIC's Domestic Installer Scheme for convenience of Part P notifiable work to Building Control. One question though, is there any specific qualifications I need, in order to be considered a QS or Principle Duty Holder as I will be a sole trader?

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Alvin Ashman good question. I'll link the section of their website below and there is a PDF at the bottom which you can download. It doesn't specifically state any qualifications at all. Just requires you to be working in the industry, have the technical documents and a couple of that procedures in place. The assessment assess if you are capable or not. What qualifications do you have? www.niceic.com/join-us/part-p-domestic-installer-scheme

@alvinashman6371 6 лет назад

Dans the Engineer- I'm a JIB Approved Electrician with all the relevant qualifications to suit. I've been an electrician for the past 15 years predominantly working within the domestic social housing sector. I've grown a bit tired of working for someone else and feel that I could make a success of going it alone. Have you ever been self-employed and if so, how did yoy find it, any of your experience or advice would be greatly appreciated.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Alvin Ashman you'll have absolutely no problem qualification wise! Being a JIB approved electrician certainly demonstrates your qualifications. Just make sure you have a copy of the relevant standards. Part P and the EAWR 1989 are free to download. Ensure you read up on technical knowledge etc and I'm sure you'll be absolutely fine.

@simont190 4 года назад

Question why are comments all disabled on NICEIC promotional videos could there be a problem with the scheme??

@DanstheEngineer 4 года назад

I have wondered that myself Simon. Not if there's a problem with the scheme but why they disable comments on their videos. Partly because often I want to leave a comment so they can respond....

@edwardgadsby1554 5 лет назад

Hi Dan, just watched this and subscribed to your Chanel. I have just set up my own business and will be looking to join the NIC very soon. I was wondering if you have templates you could share for you records. Eg. Calibration of the test equipment, job reports, complaints records etc. Cheers Ed

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

Hi Edward. Thank you and good luck with your business. I do actually. Check out my website www.danstheengineer.co.uk. I coach business owners to grow and develop and when I do so I share my resources.

@edwardgadsby1554 5 лет назад

Hi Dan, that’s great thanks. Ohh and also noticed whilst scrolling through your vids you have taken a different route in life! All the best.....sounds amazing! 🙌

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

@@edwardgadsby1554 yes Edward, life is a little crazy!

@Chris-uu6dg 5 лет назад

Thanks for your very helpful video Dan. Does the assessor ever ask you questions regarding, Principles of Electrical Science, or Health and Safety in Building Services Engineering or is the assessment mainly based on the installation and testing of the work you are showing? Just wondered if he asks random questions to check your general knowledge on electrical theory? Many thanks

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

Never have I been asked electrical theory questions. More relating to BS7671.

@Chris-uu6dg 5 лет назад

@@DanstheEngineer Many thanks for your reply Dan.

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

@@Chris-uu6dg any time..... apologies for the delayed response!

@leeburnside735 4 года назад

Hi Dan, im in france working as a spark been here for 7 years but coming back next year. Chicken and the egg ?? how do you get the notifiable jobs / work done for your inspection day if you cant sign off work prior before your registration with a scheme thanks Lee

@DanstheEngineer 4 года назад

Hi mate. You can carry out non-notifable works or work that is notifiable but communicate adequately with the client that it is their responsibility and cost. Obviously that might not always go down well with the client.

@leeburnside735 4 года назад

@@DanstheEngineer so you would still issue a certificate but put in writing in a quote or estimate that they have to notify building control them self within 20 days and if they dont ?? its on there head

@DanstheEngineer 4 года назад

@@leeburnside735 technically mate its the building owners responsibility to ensure the works are notified. Not the electrician. We do it becsuse we have the means to plus it costs us a couple of quid whereas some councils will charge a fair bit for an inspection for compliance. If you were to mention this to a client they are likely to not have a clue what are you talking about and it could look unprofessional.

@popsquashgaming9463 3 года назад

To my understanding the NICEIC is who's software generated the certificate or authorised it. If you're not registered with the NICEIC how do you signed off your work?🤔 assessment not legally allowed to sign off work, how does that work?.

@DanstheEngineer 3 года назад

If you are registered with the NICEIC, they have a portal to register notifiable works. This is not the electrical certification, it is separate and you reference the certificate number. So if you want to use different software, you can. I do. I don't like the NICEIC online software. If you're not registered with the NICEIC there are other bodies who do the same or you register through the local building control but it can be costly and a ball ache.

@alvinashman6371 6 лет назад

Hi Dan, I was in two minds weather to go NICEIC or NAPIT. I've read a few horror stories about insurance and mortgage companies only dealing with NICEIC contractors so have reluctantly decided to go NICEIC Approved Contractor. How has your experience been with the NICEIC?

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Hi Alvin. I have been an approved contractor with the NICEIC for almost 10 years. I can't say I have any complaints. They come out once a year for the assessment which goes well. We discuss technical things and a lot about testing. He's a really nice bloke so that helps. There are probably lots of benefits that you can get by being with them, but I don't use any. Why was you reluctant?

@alvinashman6371 6 лет назад

Other electricians have said that they don't really care about their contractors, they're only interested in taking their money year on end and some of the assessor can be quite anal. The guys that are registered with NAPIT seem to have had a better experience, very helpful technical support. Some have had to leave NAPIT to join NICEIC and say they preferred NAPIT.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

I can't speak about other competent person schemes because I haven't been with them but I do like Napit's Tech team. The NICEIC scheme works for me. In regards to looking for tech support I tend to look for my own sources anyway. My old NICEIC assessor was incredibly knowledgeable and really tested me. He would even throw a few curve ball questions whilst we are driving from site to site but I really enjoy that sort of thing because it is making sure I am up to scratch which is only a good thing.

@petsrfun9938 4 года назад

hi dan is its necessary to register with niceic for domestic installation work

@DanstheEngineer 4 года назад

There are other schemes you can join such as Napit or Stroma (who have just been bought by Napit). So no it isn't neccessary but it certainly has its advantages.

@simont190 4 года назад

Napit will only let you join if you have done 2 years. They said apprenticeship when I enquired. And elecsa are now owned by niceic so 2 years the same.

@petsrfun9938 4 года назад

@@DanstheEngineer thank you very much

@davidmarsden9800 6 лет назад

By the sound of your spreadsheets you actually need databases, you're probably using the wrong tool for the job. New data protection regs coming in and spreadsheets won't be secure for customers data. Database easier to secure.

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

I used a CRM system. I don't think that is completely necessary for all One man bands though there are ways to meet data laws. Use of a CRM was a game changer for me......

@AUMKesh 6 лет назад

Do we need to test all 3 sites for assessment?

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

kishan keshvala do you mean the 3 sites you'll take them to? They should be a reflection of the work you do like normal so if you carried out an install, it should be tested anyway. Is that what you meant?

@AUMKesh 6 лет назад

Thank you for reply I have passed thru process very nicely. sometimes i feel in very situation that where i stand with my experience and qualifications.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

I'm glad you passed nicely!

@zippymo672 3 года назад

Andy Carrol has given up football to become an electrician.

@DanstheEngineer 3 года назад

Has he? 😬🤔🤣

@zippymo672 3 года назад

@@DanstheEngineer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@acespark1 5 лет назад

I could not lower my standards enough to qualify

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

Would do you mean? 🙄

@akey69er 6 лет назад

If you're starting up as a sole trader and haven't done any private work due to not being CPS registered, how could you use jobs to showcase to them? The work I do for my employer would be classed as a conflict of interest 😒

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Why would you think it is conflict of interest? Do you mean because your employer may be wondering why on earth you are starting up a company!!? Well remember you can show them the type of work you do so recently someone who asked for my assistance installed a new socket circuit in their garage. EICR on someone's house. There are a number of ways you can do it.

@akey69er 6 лет назад

Dans the Engineer yeah basically that... They will want to be priority. Ah I get you I can 100% do that! I've been asked to install a security light so that would be good to showcase... I always over think things like this

@casecurityandelec 3 года назад

@@akey69er mate I'm overthinking the fuck out of this right now because I've just made business cards before taking any of this into consideration, basically can't do any legal work unless you're part of a competent persons scheme

@moominqunbos6657 6 лет назад

are you from Birmingham? I like your account

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Near London my friend. Thanks for watching

@josephking1947 6 лет назад

personally the standard of work within the NICEIC is atrocious I've met numerous contractors who sign off other contractors work and the NICEIC make the complaints procedure beyond painful gone are the day's of quality..... I've been in the industry for 35 yrs and am an approved contractor also a lapse member of the worst union to exist the shit jib ...I'm shocked you have such a high opinion of them...

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Joseph King when have a said I think highly of them? This video is about the NICEIC tips and hacks for the assessment

@josephking1947 6 лет назад

+Dans the Engineer Unfortunately the NIC have done a great marketing job of creating a false sense of security in general convincing the public of assurances of quality etc I don't disagree with the content of your video but it encourages people to join an awful organisation.... anyways our engineers require a 20 rather than a tenner ...

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

Joseph King I remain impartial. There are many issues within the electrical industry, however we are stuck with many situations outside of our control. I speak to various bodies and believe me I will express issues that I have. Some issues have been resolved. Some probably won't. Commercially we generally have to join one of the voluntary schemes. Which one would you choose?

@josephking1947 6 лет назад

+Dans the Engineer unfortunately the NIC due to certain clients insistence which is why it's pretty much a monopoly,

@jamanemaraashollington8760 6 лет назад

The bribe cracked me up.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

It works a treat HAHA

@jamanemaraashollington8760 6 лет назад

Great video. I’m currently 3rd party certification. I’m on the verge of going self certified. Thank you.

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

I highly recommend you join a Competent Person Scheme. Keep learning, network with other good electricians who promote high standards and take great pride in your work and you'll do well. The industry changes so quickly and the regulations are bloody confusing to most so it is important to get second opinions. There is no shame in it.

@jamanemaraashollington8760 6 лет назад

Dans the Engineer 18th edition soon. What do you think the changes will be? Will the ring main stay strong? Or radials. Do you think any earthing arrangements will change? Thank you for the reply it made my day.

@jamanemaraashollington8760 6 лет назад

Dans the Engineer Working alone I feel I get left behind with new trends etc, RU-vid helps a lot and I will look forward to your uploads.

@steveking1972 5 лет назад

10er it is then ;/

@DanstheEngineer 5 лет назад

I heard times are hard so I think a fiver will do 😂😂😂😂

@barmakiGmailcom 6 лет назад

Hello

@barmakiGmailcom 6 лет назад

I have an assessment on the 15th December my first one ever

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

barmaki2011@Gmail.com domestic installer or approved? Do you feel prepared?

@barmakiGmailcom 6 лет назад

I have everything in place I.Electrical books qualifications etc... But I've been an electricians for 17 years first 5 years I worked for a company and we were always updated on the regs I have my 17th edition But after the 3 years I worked for various different agencies because money was better I been doing this for 14 years though by doing this were not always fully up to date with regs and also I have the problem of trying to get my self across I know what I'm talking about but I get very nervous my question to you how can I prepared my self for his questions I.E part p running cables in lofts etc..

@DanstheEngineer 6 лет назад

barmaki2011@Gmail.com I think you'll find they are more likely to advise than look to fail you. If you know what you're doing just be honest and show the install you carry out. I believe reading BS7671 is important and the more you read, the more you'll know. Even going through the on site guide and guidance notes 3 is very helpful. Nobody is expected to know everything but you do need to know where to look so make sure you have your books on you and look at them if he asks any questions.

@barmakiGmailcom 6 лет назад

Thank you very much for your help I have a questions about the niceic test certs im gonna give you my number 07923183284