I thought Aly won this match. Nick had a nice little non scoring scramble at the end but Aly won every scramble within the match. He always ended up in an advantageous position when they landed out of bounds.
Alex Ramirez Aly was just as aggressive as Nick. Even Danaher had Aly winning until last scramble. But again, that one scramble didn’t outweigh all the previous scrambles Aly won. My opinion. But I’m not a judge
@@joshuasasfire2759 DDs haters? LMAO, any expression of opinion against that team is hate? Blind fanboys like you are such a joke to the sport, bringing hate all the time. What do you think when I say Gordon Ryan is the best no-gi athlete alive, but Nick Rodriguez didn't win this match? Still a hater or just someone who analyzes the facts of the sport?
Joshua Sasfire Gordon and Gary are two of my fav grapplers and I think John is the freaking Yoda of coaching. If anyone is a DDS hater, it’s definitely not me. But I still think Nick lost.
Nicky dominated the hand fighting the whole match and remained the aggressor. He initiated almost all the takedown attempts. Scoring position out of bounds doesn’t mean anything for Aly. So, if you are using ADCC rules then the match is pretty clear.
The ridiculous decision, Aly always ended up in good positions after scrambles, both walking forward. Also, nick attacking the neck while the match was stopped should be 1 penality
The overtime period was defined by all the times Aly ran Rodriguez out of bounds. Aly was controlling the mat. Rodriguez received a biased team favoritism decision
Nah...neither won by any reasonable standard. I could make an argument for and against both. Bias works both for and against the Danaher guys depending on who you ask
Tyler Goodrich thats not the function of overtime. Overtime is used to determine the winner Bc a winner was not determined during regular time. It’s kind of how sports work.
Jose Henrique Serpa yes but Nick was pushing the pace and initiating the shots, for me it could have gone either way, but this style match with mahamed just waiting to counter the judges are never going to give it to him
Que massa ver o Robertinho Abreu ( cyborg ) ali na beira do tatame, sou de ms e ja vi ele em alguns eventos de bjj e sempre nessa postura de guerreiro, observação total!! Osss
Never seen someone win a grappling match nearly getting taken down( with no advantage given) and going backwards for an entire overtime. Call me crazy...
6:05 for those wondering, Nick went after him because because the clock started up again. Seconds can decide a match, especially when competing at the highest level.
Good to watch this fight.. We can see some very interesting things. Aly won this fight no doubts. He was able to perform 3 take downs and Nick just 1. And we can see how "politics" are affecting Adcc results. As affecting Flograppling posts.
@@shrimuyopa8117 passiveness is not argument if u are winning on takedowns mate. A bit like octagon control in MMA, it doesnt matter if someone has a clear advantage in striking or grappling.
@@ybench5871 What are you talking about? Aly wasn't winning on the takedowns... You don't understand the ADCC rule set and the methodology behind it. If we went with your thought process than we would get competitors playing a super safe, passive, disengaging game until the last minute of the fight. NOBODY WANTS TO WATCH THAT!!! Maybe you just like watching guys stand around playing patty cake but the rest of us don't. We came here to watch two guys exchange technique, show off their athleticism, and their grappling abilities. If you just like watching two people stand around on a mat than we can get a still picture of that and you can look at for hours on end everyday.
@@shrimuyopa8117 Aly has more sucessful in the takedowns and control the action in the ground. the Judges must be blind to not score this good positions achieved by Aly here 5:48 and here 14:44
You gotta give it to Nick, that dude just pushes forward no matter who he's fighting. I love how the combination of wrestling and jiu jitsu prove to be the superior form of submission grappling. This guy never pulls guard and he's only been training jiu jitsu a short time but he competes with the highest level black belts.
I disagree. What you call "pushing the pace" is ineffective school yard shoving with some collar ties that lead nowhere. It's the same wrong attitude that people have with boxers "walking down" their opponents: just because you are moving, doesn't mean youre being effective. Also, Nicky Rod is a wrestler and he did pretty well in a submission wrestling championship, nothing strange about that. It's not like he won a gi ibjjf tournament
@@IrvinLep I agree partly with what you're saying, and you can see that clearly in the Galvao vs Pena superfight. To me there seems to be a big difference in the Galvao vs Pena clubbing and shoving and the Nick Rod version seen here. But you can obviously argue that Galvao was the one who actually got the takedown.
Quando soube da notícia fiquei espantado mas vendo a luta fica claro que mohamed ganhou.Ele aplicou no mínimo duas quedas. Campeonato feito pra americano roubar de brasileiro.
Porra ta igual a libertadores que a conmenbol rouba dos brasileiros pra beneficiar Argentinos esse tal de Nick foi finalista da categoria so ganhando uma luta que foi contra o Orlando Sanchez
@@glauciaapmartinsdasilva43 é assim mesmo mano os cara reclama dos gringos mais fazem a mesma coisa quando mahamed foi roubado ta todo mundo falando Mais quando roubaram pra ele todo mundo fingi de cego
Of course, he only has balls to do submission attempts on guys he knows hes going to beat. he was so scared of Aly using judo to rag doll him he did nothing. And Aly was so scared of getting taken down he did nothing. Should have both been disqualified.
No wonder no one watches this stuff. Nothing happens the whole time. There is not really anything to decide who was better. The rules definitely need to change if anyone should watch these matches
Nicky brings the pressure to the last second. Aly was busy fending off Nicky most of the match. I think this was very close but Nicky’s pressure throughout the entire match got him the decision.
jeremy arroyo agreed. Would love to see that. I legitimately don't understand wtf wrestlers are thinking by not transitioning over to milk the Bjj money cow.
If started awarding points at all times for the takedowns and 3 points for like lifting opponent off the ground before the takedown(no head spikes!) for example, which makes sense in a martial arts sense as you can damage someone, that would make this game a lot more interesting. Maybe 2 for takedown, 3 for throws, 4 lift & takedown. Idk
Man, really wanted Nicky Rod to win cuz his wrestling is soooooooo good but Mohamed's D is also sooooooo good. Honestly forgot how good Mahamed's defense is
Mano tbm queria intender isso kk nos highlights parecia que o Nick tinha ganhado mas vendo a luta toda da pra ver que foi diferente esse adcc foi meio duvidoso
The robbery was free in this dispute, if someone saw something different tell me, because, Aly always ended in a better position, but the judge returned to the fight standing up. Here we call a thief judge, but there was a whole commission of thieves
@@bigb00tyslayer20 - What I couldn't understand was why the judge did not put Nick twice in the center of the mat, in the position where they fell, only the third time he did it, I felt something very strange ...
Meu primeiro mestre professor argemiro fuiba quando eu ia reclamar do juiz ele falava quando você não decide a luta o juiz decide por você! Na torcida por você um abraço fique com Deus
It wouldn't happen overnight but if they inventivised take downs more, like allowing the 2 points all throughout the fight then they'd start getting better at wrestling and play a better game standing.
juntjoo nunya I hear you. But what’s to stop Jordan Burroughs hand fighting the whole match, secure 1 takedown, escape, and get the win. Any wrestler can come in and win by points. I don’t think you should reward takedowns because like in MMA when a judge is scoring a round, what’s the point of a takedown if you don’t do anything with it?
This began in 1998 by a Sheik who was in to BJJ with the intent of pitting grappling styles against each other. Once the original point was proven (with submission being the clear victory style) it has long since de-evolved into this generally boring to watch grappling event to fit a rules and points structure.
Das piores lutas de "Jiu-jitsu " que já vi , ambos os atletas falharam , como é que um faixa preta não vai para o chão com um faixa azul ? Inacreditável
ele é faixa azul de jiu jitsu mas treina luta olimpica desde os doze anos, é muita viagem achar que alguem do jiu jitsu (sendo que muitas academias nem treinam em pe)vai ter vantagem contra alguem do judo ou da luta olimpica sendo que a maior parte do esporte deles é em pé
@@xy5844 mahammed é do judô também. Ele tem conhecimento de luta em pé e no chão - se n me falha a memória, ele foi faixa preta de judô antes mesmo de entrar no jiujitsu.
@@cinzento444 eu escrevi isso pq o cara botou a mensagem como se o maluco fosse um simples faixa azul qualquer e não um maluco com bastante experiencia em luta agarrada. e q nem por o buchecha num campeonato de sambo e falar que o cara tem pouco tempo de sambo e ja ta amassando todo mundo - omitindo a informação da experiencia previa do atleta com as lutas agarradas
