Being passive for 15+ minutes with two ehh submissions should never beat pushing the pace the entire match and working for passes and back takes. Good decision on this one
what nicky has done to win? he didn't even remotely attempt to pass cyborg's guard. he was so afraid of his guard that he tried to halfguard pass him at his toes. no pressure, no real attempt, just hoping to run around cyborg quick enough so he can pass him without engaging with him at all. to be fair it's not just against cyborg, nicky either gets the bodylock or he refuses to do jiu-jitsu
@@DetailingJourney He was ADCC Openclass Champion, 100% not overrated. But his attitude is bs. His instagram posts are all about respect, yet he only is respectful when he wins.
I agree with the decision completely, Nicky Rod was pushing the action much more, all cyborg did was fail to take him down and put on an armbar that was easily escaped
you probably still can! i dont know how old you are, maybe too old for competition if you frame it like that, but BJJ as a hobby should be possible. there are many guys out there over 50 or 60 doing bjj. for example Ed O Neill aka Al bundy.
I don’t blame Nick but I think Cyborh won. It was close but he got the better of the scrambles and nearly got the arm, had a decent triangle attempt. Nick has nice throw but it did not result in getting close to a dominant position. Nick won the wrestling but adcc rules cyborg won imo
@@zvonimircerdic6783 Yeah he showed me he was ready to take it to the street. That's what you and Gordon don't understand. Grappling tournaments are for fun, but when you start disrespecting people it becomes something else. Cyborg is a nice guy. Ralph Gracie would've beat the daylights out of him. I would've taken care of him on the spot.
Let's be honest, Nicky Rod had several pass attempts (the purpose of being on top) and Cyborg only had a few sweep/sub attempts (the purpose of being on bottom). That's why Nicky got the nod.
It's reasonable to expect the judges to get things right more often than not. In a submission-grappling tournament, judges should be expected to favor fighters who are actively trying to submit their opponents.
Daniel Holley Hi, thats your opinion brother. I dont disagree that attacking submissions is exciting, but you have to think about how it affects the rules. In matches where a submission attempt is a point all you see are shitty leg lock attempts.
Muito bom 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 cara cascudo indo lutar deitado e achando ainda q vai ganhar... Nick atacou muito mais n tinha nada que fazer todo esse drama com a derrota.. só enfeiou mais ainda
I think judges over there are more impressed by movements display and show and no so much technique and if you are going to seat most of the match maybe chess is a more suitable sport for you.
abu dhabi COMBAT club. they gotta give the decision to the guy who was on top for the entire match. the sub attempt and back control pretty much cancel each other out imo
@Adam Khan lol if you think danaher's knowledge lol comes from Renzo, you must think that pro athletes lol get their info from tee ball coaches lol lol
Ótima luta, num ponto de vista de agressividade e movimentação, eu notei o Nick, mas agressivo e ele buscava o tempo todo, oportunidades para pontuar, cyborg fez um jogo de guarda durante muito tempo, e andou muito para trás quando estava, em pé talvez se ele tivesse saído na mão mas em pé, poder ter sido bem diferente, lembrando que na regra do ADCC, quando o oponente faz guarda, se eu não estiver enganado, o guardeiro já toma menos um ponto. Talvez na próxima o cyborg possa acreditar mas na luta em pé como ele fez contra o Buchecha!
@@joootooobboosheet2486 Yes, yes I know but you yourself on the other hand are a very exciting practitioner, an absolute submission terror! (When you're not being just another useless troll that is ;)
@@Mach1Airspace I didn't claim to be a submission terror. I am nowhere near the level of these guys. It doesn't mean I'm wrong about Cyborg being boring. At least Nicky worked hard to pass and be aggressive. He tried a lot of stuff, but Cyborg just laid down and didn't do anything but pull guard. It was boring as hell to watch him.
Nicky Rod was aggressive and turned up the heat as the match went on but I love Cyborgs style better. His half guard game and guard retention and attacking from the half guard and inverting very smooth and fun to watch. I thought Cyborg won.
I dont know alot about bjj but It looked like Nick was more on the offense all the time and the judges liked that in the tournament I think the commentator said yeah?
@@Mizernyi agreed but Cyborg didn’t do much of anything. Match could have gone either way but Cyborg being shocked that he lost is ridiculous. The guy is a twat and he’s proved it towards the end of his career.
Cyborg won that match. He came the closest to a sub and also to a sweep, in the overtime, and he actually attempted a takedown. I don't see what Nicky Rod has done that could justify him winning, he never came close to a guard pass
the guy on his back never attacking thinks he won the fight... This is why BJJ will never reach striking in terms of popularity. It would be like a boxer going turtle and dodging the whole fight who expects to win a decision.
@nyc king You're acting like wrestling isn't a grappling art. You BJJ guys always get so defensive whenever a wrestler fucks you up on his first day. Also what's the point of being a black or blue belt guy when you're beating the shit out of the top guys anyways. Jon Jones is blue belt but has multiple sub wins against black belts. Shows you BJJ ain't all that. All you need is basic submission defence to add to a Wrestling/Judo base to be a good grappler.
that is the most idiotic comment i have read in a long time...charlie is no athlete, just an internet troll..nicky is helping jiu jitsu grow, the sport needs more guys like him
@@essamlofty2748 I literally hardly ever see bjj guys complain over the internet about wrestlers, what I do see is wrestlers getting all master race about their stuff being "better 4 tha streetz." Theres different levels of black belts because theres so many different teachers who promote for different reasons. Literally all you meat heads say is the same thing, do some rucking research before peddling these dumb arguments.
Essam Lofty wrestlers are always so salty because straight wrestling gets mutilated by BJJ every time. Whenever good wrestling meets good BJJ the wrestlers almost always run away because they are so scared of the ground 🤣🤣🤣 All the sudden you see reverse wrestling all over the place. Best combination is phenomenal Jiu Jitsu and great kickboxing. A great example is Maia vs Woodley. Woodley was a dominate wrestler and spent his entire camp working on: you guessed it submission defense (aka BJJ), and above all wrestling and running backwards. He backed away SMARTLY from the ground fight something like 20-25X over 5 rounds. He won the decision because he had better striking than Maia. Which again proved my point: phenomenal Jiu Jitsu and high level striking is the most lethal combo. Maia just has unathletic and poor striking so he was missing one component. Woodley had 2. Wrestling which he only used to not fight, and striking which was better than Maias’. Another Perfect example is when former World Heavyweight UFC Champ Fabricio Verdum beat up and then submitted the monster wrestler and cardio machine Cain Velasquez. Cain was afraid to take him down and then couldn’t win the standup war either. After getting soundly out-struck the wrestler Cain fell back on wrestling and got quickly choked out by the Jiu Jitsu master by sticking his head into a guillotine which is what pretty much what every tired (or untrained in Jiu Jitsu) wrestler always does when they are losing the striking battle 🤷🏾♂️ Wrestling by itself REALLY makes you a sitting duck unless you have good Standup fighting to back you up. Or great submission defense (which is not wrestling at all- its BJJ).
Cyborg , calmo fazendo guarda , com um jogo mais técnico e eficiente . Ficar explodindo toda hora não significa ofensividade .Atacar mais ,buscar mais a finalização isso sim é ofensividade . Roubaram na cara dura .
Atletas do american wrestling ate ficam por cima fazem aquela movimentacao para passar a guarda. No menor movimento do atleta que esta por baixo ja recuam. Ok a regra é a regra mas é um grappking que nao convence. Pouca tecnica piucas posicoes de passagem e muito gas e movimentacao
