Patrick Bird How could she tap? Her bitch of an opponent keep her other hand pressed hard almost under her, all she could do was clench it from the pain as her arm was purposely snapped. The official should've disqualified the bitch for purposeful injury, her opponent may have even needed surgery for it and is most likely going to have nerve pain for the rest of her life now. Then look her smiling about it afterwards, signalling to someone watching. I've king-hit opponents for less, which is why I don't do jiu-jitsu anymore.
WRONG, all of you. It's finals, she was winning by points and 1 min to the end and in BLACK BELTS DIVISION the referee don't stop until it's a tap (with hand/leg/verbal stop) or the competitor can't continiue 'cause of unconciousness..first learn about the subject and then comment
model84 GFY, it's a public forum where people can share their opinion all they want. For eg, I would've been DQ'd for biting like I did the last cunt that armbarred me in an argument after I WARNED him to let go. He's had 2 operations to reconnect the outer tendon in his knee and still can't walk properly without walking stick, so he had to quit his jiu-jitsu. He may've won the battle, but I won the war 😁 Another chick who triangled me ended up with my fingers you-know-where after she refused to let me go too. Her gf's even said suck shit to her because they clearly heard me warn her to let go but she wanted to be an egotistical bitch. Before you say "dirty fighting", anything goes when it's self-defence as the cops even said. She couldn't even have me charged for it because as the cops said, any choke can be considered lethal force (or deprivation of liberty at the least, which goes under false imprisonment and torture), so I was completely justified in using whatever means to escape it and especially after WARNING her I was going to. They even warned her dad and relatives not to get involved, because she was in the wrong and should've let go when I warned her to. So, I won that war too 😀
Adults black belts competing at the highest levels of the sport. The ref is obligated to let them continue until a fighter taps, screams, loses consciousness, forfeits or gets DQ'd. It's the fighters responsibility to protect their own safety at that level. These aren't kids.
@@SubFlow22 actually, by rule, the referee is allowed to intervene. It's extremely rare at this level of the sport, but it is in fact a right that the referee can choose to exercise.
@@Neviksir yeah, he said Judo or jiujitsu. I'm a Judoka and i can tell that in Judo competitions that have a lot of ne waza you can't tell if you are watching jiu jitsu
@@joelb3613 look up the statistics. There are more deaths in boxing per year than MMA - by a factor of about 2x or 3x. In a boxing match you get punched in the head dozens of times. Same when sparring. Notice those headaches after sparring, even when you wore headgear? That's brain damage - a bit at a time. I'm not arguing that MMA isn't brutal, but in many ways you're better off getting knocked out by a couple of punches instead of your head being pounded countless times. We've all seen the punch drunk boxers who can barely string sentences together. The other issue is boxers can have such long careers because of the shorter rounds, more frequent breaks, and the protective gear. It's an illusion of safety, but in reality a lot of people are getting gradually messed up. They can also get knocked out multiple times in a single fight and get back up (10 count). Absolute recipe for long term damage. In MMA as soon as you aren't intelligently defending yourself, you're done. That's often not a knockout, but stunned or exhausted.
DESIRE TO WIN AND SPORTS: When a Budo is no longer a Budo, but a sport... Desire to win causes otherwise decent people to seriously injure or kill another person for the sake of a medal, trophy, or price money... I hope all of you pause for a moment and think about that... I'm all for Rendori, but it has to be strictly supervised by competent and moral Sensei. Safety first and always... The winner, the one in the Blue Gi, looks confused and regretted what she had done to another woman...
After looking at the video I see that she couldn’t tap as her other arm was pinned. If I know I’m getting close I would stop just out of love for the other person. Great display of what can happen in real life . Love to both athletes
She literally broke her arm fully aware of what she’s doing, this ain’t an accident lol I thought this was illegal, like your not suppose to push all the way til it breaks, just force a tap out.
@The Afflicted I mean I don't really know the rules but if you know you broke your opponents arm, obviously there is no way to continue on with one arm and I would believe she would get the win anyway if she lets the ref know and stop the fight even momentarily to check. Seems more to me like she just wants to hurt her for good
@@中野内宏美 exactly m getting it now 😀 m a rough kind of person but if I injure a person physically I will not feel good. May be the sports demands that , injure Nd I'd reqd harm opponent nd feel proud. I need to learn 😀
After watching uit again I stand by what I said before. I keep hearing how these are the nicest people didn't see it from her very unconserted after match
I commend the girl in the white for her courage and determination which needs to be recognized, and maybe she was unable to tap out since both her hands were tied up as they both grapple. What I don’t understand is why you have a referee in the first place. These girls weren’t competing for millions of dollars or some other monetary gain, but just probably for a medallion made out of plastic that they painted in gold. Referees are judges and need to stop these matches to avoid: torn ligaments, torn tendons, torn meniscus, creating a blood clot and possible surgery and therapy. By the way, who pays that bill?
Actually breaking a limb is pretty rare. Normally the person would tap and it would be done. But of course in BJJ there's an expression: "tap, snap or nap". Bizarrely enough Tammi chose snap in this situation. Ouch.
@@wrybread that is right...I just wonder if they can make it a little changes..I mean bro..everyone in this world shd atleast learn martial arts gud for health..for fitness..I mean which kid will be motivated by this it's terrifying man...stuff like arm lock, ankle lock neck crank etc shd be prohibited..just like kicking to the throat etc is prohibited..i know it's hard to get this through to the UFC bt maybe u n I can negotiate here ...I mean how much of a fighter we will have at the end of the day if the arm or leg is broken right!🙄 Its not sportsmanship it just boils down to pride...who win or lose..if yhats the case then a simple gun or knife can do the job right...
@@huberdahum2683 it's not much of a problem, the vast majority of the time people just tap. There's probably less than 20 videos on youtube of people getting hurt doing bjj, and there's a ton of vids of people doing bjj. The injuries suck though! But to be fair they suck in any sport.
@@wrybread bro I absolutely agree to that...good research though on ur part! I just want the combatants to be safe...martial arts is beautiful n that's what we shd represent..
Ref should have stepped in at 1:36 to stop serious injury. Between 1:36 and 1:47 is utterly disgusting to watch as Blue breaks and then twists into a grotesque angle in an effort to win. Making athletes fall on their swords to prove their toughness is a great disservice to the athlete and to the sport. This is not the Colosseum 2,000 years ago. Crowds do not need to see grotesque and perhaps career-ending injury to be entertained and to appreciate the athletes' skill and toughness. Look at White look towards the referee at 1:55 as if to say "why didn't you stop this?!"
It's called a submission, if they never actually 'submit' it's not really a submission. In saying that though in most matches with catastrophic injury, the ref will step in and call a medic.
You are way out of line. These are adult black belts competing at the highest levels of the art. The ref can't stop the match unless criteria has been met, and without a scream, tap or loss of consciousness, criteria has not been met. Competitors have to protect themselves and every competitor knows the rules and the stakes involved. These aren't children. If you don't approve of our art, tough shit. All the capital letters in the world don't make you right.
Why wasn’t the blue girl disqualified, you don’t push all the way til the joints break, you push a bit to force a tap out. Seeing how deliberate it was here she should be facing charges, she’s probably ruined the other girls career with that move.
This BJJ at the highest level, not some college sociology class of safe spaces. It's your responsibility to tap because only you know the threshold of the breaking point. That's not ever your opponent's responsibility.
@@cerovk6000 do you actually watch MMA? Fighters will punch or apply submission until the ref steps in. The number of times an unconscious fighter has eaten several punches because the ref didn't get there in time is pretty much 100%
I know these are old ass comments and the video is close to a decade old, but she didnt tap because she was winning the match. The elbow is dislocated, not broken, and no the ref does not need to intervene unless it is life or death. She won the match by not giving up to a dislocated elbow. Stronger people have given up on less.
These breaks should be illegal and fighters that deliberately break other's arms should be disqualified. Like if you have someone in an armbar or something, you shouldn't be allow to break it obviously. 0 common sense here. Like they know the other fighter can't get out and they still break it. The ref too should have intervened.
The blue one didn't care that she broke the white one's arm. Blue should apologize for that and she doesn't. She should be disqualified for that. She was rude, not interested in her rival.
@@law4546 They are for me alone I train in total never mind sometimes there is no possibility however for me it is not quite clear. It doesn't really matter.
Besides the fact this isn't judo, this isn't particularly dangerous unless you're a complete idiot. You know your arm is about to break, not only because an experienced fighter like this well aware when they're in a lock and they've lost, but it also because it hurts like hell. At that point you have to be a moron (or high out of your mind on cocaine) not to tap.
It amazes me how such dull sports can be a passion for other people. For me excitement is in the fight and a sport that sets rules like no punching/knees/elbows etc just dumbs everything down and removes all excitement whilst tagging it "technical". What's the appeal of two people having their natural fighting abilities dumbed down to the point of rolling around whilst trying to grab certain parts of their opponents clothing to try roll them into submission.... When i tried judo as a teen i couldn't get my head around it. There was more emphasis on the correct way to fall and slap the mat at the same time to make a certain sound. It felt more like a performance than self defense. It was as if everyone who failed at boxing/kickboxing, karate, muay thai etc just resorted to doing this shit and were seen as pussies....
don't look now but because anybody can throw a strike, and that’s not to say that striking isn’t an art because I box and do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, but anyone can throw a punch, elbow, knee, etc they may not be proper strikes but they can still throw them. However, not just anyone can hit a Judo throw as you mentioned, not just anyone can set up a triangle choke against a fully resisting opponent, not just anyone can hit Berimbolo or reverse Berimbolo from various guards like DLR, Reverse DLR, Half Butterfly, Single Leg X, inside your opponent’s DLR, etc all of that requires skill and technique all of which you gain from hours of repetition. Submissions aren’t natural, they were designed and perfected through trial and error. That’s why this art is “technical”.
