Hans Niemann talks to Alejandro Ramirez after defeating Carlsen in the third round of the 2022 Sinquefield Cup. 2022.09.04 KasparovChess.com GrandChessTour.org
When you reach this level of brilliance, you don’t understand why. That’s how Elon musk was in the kitchen one day and suddenly he had built a self landing rocket. Amazing! Remember. Chess speaks for itself, so don’t ask yeah!
its easy to look good when you have the worlds strongest chess engine whispering in your ear... him and maurice always have this arrogance about them... easy when you have help
He isnt the first player to say something like what he said nor the last. He isnt the first to say some bs in an interview either. Fabi even said it in his pod that often players are full of it in their interviews.
he even calls it "miracle". magnus has withdrawn from the tournament. i guess there is 2 options. hans is going to be the next chess superstar or magnus has the correct feeling and something was dubios.. however, this interview is going to be legendary
The chess community, particularly those accusing Hans of cheating, owe him a big apology. They're accusing him based on Magnus withdrawing from the tournament, but none of them have any evidence to backup their claims
@@michaeletzkorn then you should turn on your brain lol If he always does the best moves, its 100% true that he cheated, so he also used the second or third best moves to not make it thst obvious
Way better than Miami. I agree he wasn't being disrespectful. I would have liked to see he and Svidler discuss his main point about opportunities for younger players. I'm personally tired of seeing Caruana, So, Aronian, and MVL. I wouldn't be surprised if Magnus feels the same. As far as St Louis, I'm not as impressed as he is.
@@Neelinmact I think because of how he said it. My mother used to tell me it's not what you say, it's how you say it. He wasn't angry, he was self-deprecating, he laughed at himself . He's not as polite as someone like Prag or Aronian, but he seems to be changing. His issue was serious, though I don't know the details. Ding played a crazy series of games to qualify to play in the candidates. And St. Louis is doing the equivalent of "buying" players who are federation shopping. And it isn't like we haven't seen nasty chess politics and favoritism before.
@@Neelinmact Because he wasn't being arrogant like he was in Miami. He knows his place, he's barely 2700 and is facing the best chess player by a long mile, and managed to beat him. Of course he'd call himself an idiot, it's just the self-deprecating nature for young people, especially when he faced the guy who doesn't want to play the WCC because he already knows he's the best.
I went to look up the game between Magnus and Wesley So in the 2018 London Chess Classic, but found that neither of them were actually at that tournament.
@@DaaimShabazz because u dont prep a 35 move deep line that he has playd maybe once or twice in blitz. Thats just not practical. Even after 25-30 moves he was able to tell exactly what his thoughts were in a way that didnt seem like he was thinking during the game but it was still his prep
@@kaischmidt7973 What do you mean? GMs do it all the time. None of that even matters. He still had to play the moves. It's not like he knew Carlsen would play the exact moves. That is what prep is. You are basically guessing. Anyway it was a normal game, not some brilliant sequence that gave Hans a winning position. Carlsen played below standard.
@@DaaimShabazzprep is not just guessing, there’s trillions if not more variance and possibility, you can’t remember just one and hope your opponent play into it, but he somehow with miracle does just that
@@dylanwelch8228 honestly not that unusual. im from an immigrant familiy in the states and grew up with a lot of other immigrant families, and a lot of the kids were born and raised here but their mother tongue was a foreign language they spoke with their parents and they have slight accents as well
@@raylopez99 he lived in the netherlands for like 3 years as a kid. He speaks in a normal american accent except in recent interviews. To be fair it’s very bobby fisher. “Gotta wear the nicest suit with the nicest accent or people will look down on me”. (Not necessarily saying that’s his motive, but it reminds me personally a lot of fisher who did have an inferiority complex)
So funny how he checked this today and remember everything he played and deeper, but in the interview, he offers variations that makes no sense and after 1 move deeper now he does not remember ... please check his hair for microphones !!!
1. "It's so riddiculous that I've even checked it" 2. "He played that here and there" ["I knew fair and square what I'm doing"]. This escalated quickly
I doubt that's ever going to happen. Even if, after analyzing this game (including his time management and at which moments he gets off the board) and his analyses in the post-game interviews, people slowly come to the realization that there is really nothing of substance as basis for suspecting that Hans Niemann cheated, with such a big ego and insecurity that Magnus has, he's going to refuse to talk about this game, because he's SUPER embarrassed about it. (Not only that he lost as black against a sub-2700, but he also withdraws from the tournament because of it.)
Question to GM Yasser Seirawan if he sees this by any chance, does Hans remind you of a young Jan Timman? Rebelious, free spirited (even a bit hippish) and overflowing with energy.
hans became the youngest player ever to beat WC magnus carlsen with black pieces in classical . he also crossed 2700 after this game . what a great achievement by this young man ❤
It's astounding to me how so many people can see this guy's interview and think that he's actually better than Carlsen. Carlsen can actually recall the logic he used in vivid detail, as well as what alternate strategies he was considering at the time, too. Niemann just says it was a "miracle." Come on, guys. For having a reputation of being one of the most intelligent games in history, it seems like many Chess fans are complete idiots.
@@chidilebopo1091 I think I understand your comment... you're agreeing that Magnus is the better player because of his ability to play/analyze games against himself more objectively than Hans, is that right?
You need to understand Hans Niemann is not that type of guy that explain everything logically and in detail in an interview, it's just his personality is more aggressive and mysterious like B.Fischer
Just my impression, I remember when 18 years old Esipenko beat Magnus in Tata Steel in 2021, he was not able to leave the table after the game, because of emotions. Esipenko told in the post game interview to GM Shipov that he was completely exhausted. Nieamann is very calm like he was doing this every day and in his 19 he behaves like Bobby Fischer
I had the same thoughts. In the Esipenko game he also showed a huge happiness winning against Carlsen, while Hans only gave him a killer stare. It's strange but no proof of nothing obviously.
@@raylopez99 On the one hand: yes. On the other hand: chess and culture should not depend on the mercy of rich donors. While I think that STL chess has done a great deal for chess, it still depends on the donor. The donor buys not only a good deed, but also a reputation and potentially voters. It is not always clear what of Sinquefields public portfolio is honest philanthropy and what is self-advertisement. According to Wikipedia one of his main interests is to reduce income tax and replace it with a changed sales tax system. This is what Wikipedia writes about this: "Dubbed the Kansas experiment, this policy decreased state revenues by hundreds of millions of dollars;[29] caused spending on roads, bridges, and education to be slashed;[30][31] and failed to lift Kansas' below-average economic growth.[32]". He is also known to buy political power through donations and funding initiatives. Do you want chess to be part of a political agenda like this - or any political agenda of rich donors? Do you want politics to be about self-advertisement that distracts from the actual content of your suggested policies? Or do you want it to be financed long-term, stable and without any direct political influence or conditions by tax money, regulated by laws?
I am a bit torn about the issue of STL Chess. It finances a lot of great educators and players with great personalities and honorable goals. It is not easy to make money with chess like this and I think all of them deserve such a great chance. On the other hand, it is a bit ridiculous that chess competitions like the Olympiad and club chess are becoming a battle of the wallets. It is no accident that Levon Aronian (formerly Armenian), Fabiano Caruana (formerly Italian), Wesley So (formerly Phillipino) and Lenier Dominguez (formerly Cuban) are all playing for the US team now. It is not a coincidence that the tournament basically features Team USA + X with a huge price fund. You could see it as buying players and their trophies. You could also see it as a fair offer in a world where, as I said, making money with chess isn't easy. There clearly is no black and white to this issue. What I definitely wish for is a bit more inclusivity, as Niemann put it so well.
@@nilsp9426 if wesley so is formerly philipino, which he is, you can’t say caruana is formerly italian, he’s 100% american and were his parents to let him have an italian passport, but that doesn’t make him italian, he can’t even speak italian, just some words
I probably don't believe this theory myself, because it's quite far-fetched, but I've seen a few people say that sometimes there's an audible click when Hans puts his hand in the hair on the side of his head. I noticed that at least once in this video as well, at 10:36. And if you watch the other interview he did after Round 1 there's a similar audible click when he does the same thing at 1: 59 into that video. Is it some audio equipment the production team told him to wear? Can someone please just disprove this stupid theory so I don't have to think about it? lol
I haven’t been following chess as much as I used to years ago. I remember watching all the opening and other lessons in the channel and how much I improved during that time. Now I see all this fancy screens and that you guys are getting coverage on really big events and how the channel have grown and it makes me feel really happy for you guys. Thanks for spreading the love for chess out there. Im glad it has been a successful journey for the SLCC. Best of luck!♟
Call him arrogant but I think he is just as genuine as it gets, I don't think anyone after beating magnus with black in a classical would have accepted they checked this opening before the game,they would have claimed to have calculated it over the board. Also people who trolled him after the ftx cup, look at him now.
Yeah you are right..nieman is creative player..has creative idea..in crypto cup he has winning positionnhe just blundered because he is too ambitious and that rapid match so mistake always happen..but nieman is really suitable for classical..beating magnus in classsical as playing black pieces and countering his opening ,thats shows a lot for hans niemann
I like him as well, but lots of players would have (and do) admit they checked the variations or didn't in a particular position after the games. It's a very common statement for top GMs to make after a game when it happens.
"1,5 years ago I was stuck at 2480 and then I suddenly got to 2600 in a short time and just started winning every open from there." -Hans Fritz Deepmann after new software update
As someone on a chess forum pointed out, 10:30 - 10:40 Hans fiddles behind his ear and you hear a mechanical clicking noise. He is wearing a lapel mic rather than any sort of headset. I haven’t heard this anywhere else in the broadcast and Alejandro does not seem to be moving.
That is really clutching at straws. Ten seconds later he puts his hand right through that spot, probably dislodging any so called device anyway. What a witch-hunt.
This is a wonderful interview, thank you. Obviously Hans is a very enigmatic character and I look forward to watching him develop. But also, the interviewer did an excellent job of matching his tone
I like how Hans talked about how engines rated like 3600 holding an endgame is very different from even someone like Magnus holding and endgame. Honestly I dunno if he cheated, the whole situation is very confusing
His accent has drastically changed bro… He used to have a very Cali accent and now it’s very European, as if English is his second language. Strange man. This whole thing is fishy bro.
It is possible to convey info about the next move by tapping or vibrations. He might have a vibrating egg inside his body Here is the protocol I've come up with, that seems suitable: First there is a sync signal, a long vibration for about 3 seconds to alert him to be ready to receive. Then there will be: the FROM square, x- and y-position. 2 sec pause. Then TO-square x and y position, followed by an EOT (end-of-transmission) signal. FROM x-pos: X1 taps, followed by 2 seconds pause FROM y-pos: Y1 taps, followed by 2 seconds pause TO x-pos: X2 taps, followed by 2 seconds pause TO y-pos: Y2 taps, followed by a long vibration for 3 seconds (to end transmission) Example: 4 taps and a 2 sec pause followed by 2 taps and a 2 sec pause, THEN: 7 taps and a 2 sec pause followed by 5 taps and a long 3 sec vibration This means: Move the piece from D2 to G5. It really is as simple as this.
This is going to go down in history as one of the greatest legendary trolls in history. I am expecting a documentary on this from HBO in 2024 which will be a mix of Ali G and Out for blood.
He is absolutely right about the fact that younger players do not have the opportunity to play against the top 10 more often. I always thought about this. In most tournaments, we see the same players facing each other, which can be kind of boring.
Yes. And the gap is quite obvious and logical. If the 2750+ players play each other and the 2650+ players play each other its gonna be hard for the top 2650+ players to reach the 2750+ players because of how elo works. They need ridiculous win rates. Hans wants more middle ground so the lower people have a chance to reach the top without needing insane win rates only against lower players.
Or the tournaments should be bigger, so they will be even more entertaining. Either that or chess teams like in the Olympiad, if it stays like it is it will never grow
@@seelmodge7881 enjoy ? at this point its not enjoyable anymore event caruana also mention that they fight the same person its boring and predictable. chess need to be more diverse towards low elo community
Carlsen lost to Niemann in Round 3 yesterday, what a huge surprise. Win in material, Carlsen dumped to knight fork that made him lose the rook without any compensation. It is said that GMs always think in long calculation, but as we see, that blunder only happens in merely a single move. Everyone may have his own judgement about this.
Hans is a natural phenomena and he acknowledges it by calling you people robotic in your movements. Like he said, he speaks a different language to you.
He makes great points about the top 10 being kind of a closed, monied elite that kinda get 99% of the chess pie, and that it’d be better if the pie could grow for the next generation. Chess would be better for it.
The chess “pie” is very small compared to other sports, so it makes sense. Besides you are forgetting there are streamers who get some of it by playing chess without being one of the top players
Fabi, not that long ago basically stated the same thing. " Playing the same players over and over has become stale, predictable and boring." I'm sort of paraphrasing but it's basically what he said.
All things work like that. It’s called the 90-10 rule. 10% of a community gets 90% of the view/money. And the other 90% have to share the 10% of money/views left over
The top 10 get 99% of the chess pie. So, on other words it's just like any other "thing" that amounts to trying to turn what is generally a hobby, into a career.
@Bilbo Fappins "It should have been an easy win for Magnus" Sums up a lot of GMs' thoughts. The lengths he'll go to win is more than just study his opponents, you know what it is but it's okay if you choose to be naive about it. After all, if you're a Hans fan, you know this is not the first time.
Am I the only one that feels weird that this genius has to justify himself saying "I don't even remember why I checked this specific line, it was a miracle" Are you telling me that this guy "doesn't remember" something so important from something that happened in the same morning?? This sound extremely suspicious...
You and the other people that have never prepared for many hours on the day of the game might think this way. People that actually had this experience understand that there is nothing suspicious there
@@ChessHoodie he knows every nuance until like move 25. To remember something like that in such a specific line against a player that has played this once or twice in blitz, idk. This would take a long fking time to study if u had to study every line for every move ^^
@@garybuttherissilent5896 I wasn't aware of the fact that he has history of online cheating. Regardless of that I still doubt very much that he cheated in this tournament. Many years ago, I was one of the few people to point out that Borislav Ivanov was a cheat, because it was my friend who first detected it. I listened to what my friend had to say and evaluated the situation. We were trying to warn the world ( my friend through his website and myself by speaking out), but people didn't believe us. It was only six months later or so, when the rest of the world starting to suspect the guy. My point is that I am the person who is aware of cheating being possible and actually happening in the chess world, but there are cases when the allegations are almost absurd. For example the Kramnik case, and this one here. Of course, I might be wrong about Hans ( although I seriously doubt that I will), while I am 100% sure that accusations of Kramnik were utter bs.
From around 10:33 he appears to turn a switch off something behind his ear hidden in his hair, likely unaware the clicks were picked up clearly by the mic.
I enjoy Hans. He's an interesting guy. It's been fun following his career. The interview was fantastic. Hans was a great sport and any chess fan surely enjoyed listening to it. However, I do have one complaint about this video. While Alejandro was great and I think he did a great job of bringing about good conversation, he did forget one important question: where that accent from bro?
The accent must be trolling. Up until 2020 he sounded like an American teenager. He'll probably drop the accent at will one day in a few years to the shock of everyone, lol.
It sounds like his accent is a combination of accents from all the top players. Maybe being surrounded by a multitude of different accents has affected his cadence and pronunciations? I dunno. Weird.
@@Wargasm54 I've lived abroad many times as an American, and there is no conceivable way to lose a native accent by sporadic late-in-life influence alone. Definitely an affectation, he speaks normally as recently as a year ago.
@@otherwords1375 I’ve lived abroad for 17 years of my 56. I was born in Germany. I’ve traveled the globe extensively. And I’ve found myself picking up odd inflections and dialects . Generally not noticed until someone points it out. I lived in the south for a while. And when I moved to California everyone asked me if I was from the south. I was only there for 2 years. Maybe it’s just me.
@@Wargasm54 That's not a fair analogy though. English is his native tongue and he had a pronounced American accent until very recently. He now speaks, grammatically and tonally, like English is not his native language. Many people do change their accents or vocabulary subtly overtime due to their environment but this is ludicrously extreme. Some of his phrasings and pronunciations used here can only lead to the conclusion that Hans is somewhat consciously changing the way he speaks.
Good thing that Hans was able to remember every move of a variation, from game that was never played while he was playing. But then during his analysis he blundered several times and couldn’t objectively evaluate positions.
At 1:30 Hans mentions that Magnus played the variation vs. Wesley So at the London Chess Classic in 2018, but Magnus did not play that event. Not only this, but prior to this tournament Magnus had never played g3 in this opening. EDIT: It seems that Magnus has played g3 before, but I can only find 2 games and I'm not sure if they were classical games. Carlsen vs Berg 2007 and Carlsen vs Leko 2006
Magnus played the g3 Nimzo versus So indeed in the 2019 Tâta Steel India blitz. A draw. Exactly the line that Hans Nieman is talking about, without the move a2-a3.
Who the hell is this guy!!! Chess has been waiting for him for a long time. Superstar born overnight. Wow this interview has to have put Magnus in his place. The nerve of this kid.
I can’t imagine watching this guy stumble through his own analysis and thinking “this guy has charisma”. He practiced some line about how the world champion played poorly and then stuttered the rest of the time
engines help with doing the impossible >.> I'm not tossing around any certainties yet, but early analysis along with the intuition of super grandmasters who find something suspicious about this event makes me very hesitant to congratulate him on his performance.
Finally, the chess spoke for itself. 😁 And it's eloquent too! Rd 3 proved to be the most intriguing and enthralling round of the tourney (thus far--but i doubt if it can be replicated in the coming rounds tho)!
