Nier - The story of Emil 

MayhemChild i thought nier didnt die. Didnt he just get erased from existence?

That only applies to Ending D and Half-Yes, more correctly His Replicant (aka his "body") self vanished after his Gestalt Self, the Shadowlord (aka his literal soul) was killed

fadl mustafa Ending D is the one that is ultimately considered canon though anyway, as it leads to the expanded end talked about in Grimoire Nier, which leads up to and overlaps with the events of the play that leads to Automata. Replicant Nier (the one Emil knew and loved) also didnt stay dead, as in the expanded ending the Memory Tree, which creates the replicants, recreates Nier, but as a child, as its last act. Kaine, despite only having a faint feeling of having wanted to be close to this child, has him travel with her prior to the world fully falling apart with the coming invasion and the mass-degradation.

Looking at what Cavia/Yoko Taro have done to children, do you really think Emil would be that fortunate? Lets not even get into what Taro thinks of humanity.

MayhemChild it is funny if it is eternal suffering and that dying is a worst fate.

Yep, that sounds like him alright! 😂😅😢

Lamonticus "I'm Over 9000 Years Old and All of My Friends are Dead" - Written by Emil.

You forgot the part where he carries on the will of his dead friends, and the suffering ensuing because of his desires to honor them. He basically tore himself apart by splitting himself into so many clones, because his friends tried to save the world before, and failed. It's all because of that one desire, to honor them. That fucking shatters me.

"Life IS suffering, Highness...anybody who says differently is selling something." -The Dread Pirate Roberts (Westley) to the Princess Buttercup

Just existing in the world of nier is suffering

Yet he has still kept that bubbly and slightly immature attitude too 😌 he's such a pure boy

yeah!

Yes. Canon implies that Subjects 1-5 died, and that Emil was the last test subject. However, if they had made a Subject 8, or one of the original 5 subjects didn't die and was just a "failure", then technically speaking they'd be closer to homo sapien than an Emil Clone. Whether or not they'd be more human really depends on the characters

@Happy thoughts No, Emil is an actual human from pre-gestaltification.

Okay i dunno what is going on

Apart from the fragmented DNA code, yeah.

at the same time he has nobody else and nothing else. its much more existential.

Just like Rick turning himself in to the galactic police

selfless lol

it is made in Japan, dude. Always "Sebastian" for foreigner. XD

Hayashi Shirou As my first name is Sebastian, I feel like I'm destined to become a Butler.

to be fair, at least with Emil's Sebastian him having a predictable name makes sense since he's literally a mass-produced being made to be a butler.

lol. not that... just that if u watch many japanese anime series, u will find out that most or all male Englishman butlers' name is Sebastian. as if it is standardized. haha

I'm well aware, that's exactly what I mean when I say that at least his having such a predictable name kinda works. Plus, let's be honest...that's not just Japan....and the only reason they're like that is because we were (and still are) just as predictable with our fictional butler names. Remember, a lot of Japan's older more long-standing tropes are direct references/inspired by western media and animation.

Cryy oh! it's you! enjoyed your Automata play through?

Its a shame on his bonus boss fight (in the desert) they didn't create effects made for his magic, they just reused the effects the machines used when you fight them (like the barrier or the laser blasts).

It is possible that the machines copied Emil's powers. They are similar to Emil, maybe their powers were also based on him. Likely the aliens thought the more from the same unit wins.

I just saw an image from the artbook of Nier: Automata. Now I know why the machines can "eat". Inside the machine head is actually some sort of robotic skull. Viewed from the front, it looks like Emil's head.

Uh... no it really doesn´t. The deformed machines DO look like aliens, as you can clearly see from their shapes when you enter the aliens´ ship. As much as the machines despised the aliens they DID took their basic forms from them - round reads, slightly hunchback and the mouth shape. Just like the androids look like, well, humans.

Bernardo Heusi Agreed. The Robots did initially more resemble the aliens in their raw design. At some point in time they doned these Emil-looking masks (later lost). Why did they put on such masks? Speculatively, I think the surviving Emil clone that hid in a machine started rubbing off in minute ways across the machine network. Turned their own troops against them.

Do note though, that Emil Clones are still being produced. Source: Emil Heads' weapon story.

kind of, but also not really at the same time, the way it's phrased isn't 100%, the way it uses real could mean original, or it could mean from the androids perspective, the Emil they've been interacting with throughout the game is the "Real" Emil to them

@@EasilyBoredGamer nothing deep just accept that the original fuckoroi

I dont know what i feel, its sadly. Everyday he is alone, nobody to talk, nobody to hear. Nobody...until he meet 2B and 9S in Nier: Automata. Make a new friends..he is very happy, but in the end his fate is repeated again..all of them is death..T_T "This is the world my friend(s?) tried to save"

@@thismyname2501 they are alive though if u saw the ending E and the concert one that tells the after story of ending E

I'm late but basically,yea in automata he is 9929 years old and in the first nier,he is 1459 years old

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nameisblob it’s friends

nameisblob i think its singular friend because ending D in NIER the replicant nier sacrificed himself, memories of him and the game save files (concept reused in automata). Thats why emil only mentions kaine and not nier in his boss fight. Thats what i think make most sense

"Isn't that right, Kaine?"

but they fucked up actually XD

RNGesus m8 you've never had good sliced bread then

Venom Heart I believe story can beat gameplay (I'm not saying the gameplay is bad though)

nameisblob That is true. If the story is great enough, it can offset any bad gameplay in retrospect. Unless it's really, really bad, which it isn't here.

story is good. gameplay can ruin it. drakengard 1 is awful to play.

MerserX Oh ;-;

Gameplay can ruin stories, and stories can ruin gameplay. However, in the case of Nier Automata, they merge together in a perfect symbiosis to form something greater then the sum of its parts, creating a tale which can only be told through gaming as a media. When even further elements, like music, characters and level design also that part of that synergy, then you know that you're dealing with one of the best games ever made.

its all fukken whack as balls mate, like the most bizarre cocktails of stock standard tropes, how'd you even go about adapting something like that without the liberty given by being game lore?

i see your point. but i think DrakenNieR sounds better

the problem is that one of the greatest strength of NieR is how it manages to convey its story with its game. The storytelling in NieR can only be achieved through a video game, I don't see how you could make a movie with this. And I don't think any movie could be as effective in its storytelling as NieR (and NieR: Automata, which is even better than the first on this)

@@baptistelasbats3952 well it does closely resemble the anime : Ergo Proxy. Imo Ergo Proxy wasn't exactly well directed, but conceptually it mirrors Nier Automata. They made it work, it was just poorly directed.

Roeland I did too! It's an amazing game!

IGotDiabeetus yeaah it is. one of the most memorable experiences i've had with videogames... and i've been around since the NES ;-)

Roeland same happens to me as well!! It's a wonderfull game in all senses, top 3 of all time for sure :p

I beat it 4 months ago and I still think about it

Now it's been one year since I beat it, still thinking about different aspects of it almost every day. How about you?

You will feel even WORSE after you battle him the second time.

Just did it yesterday... poor soul :-/

Jacob Arellano o

unknown 4412 I wonder why he says isn’t that right Kainé as if she’s there

Nier might did in wacky accidental means, but the one who break legs and limbs to keep protecting the now broken world is Kaine so what Emil is doing is continuing Kaine's legacy albeit he is now only a small shard of the original Emil we met in Replicant.

it is him and it isnt him. it isnt that the origional is dead its that he was lost as pieces of himself were taken to create the clones basically its not that it isnt origional emil its tha its 1/6,000,000nth of the original emil.

david ervin

It actually was the original, for what it's worth.

yoko taro has explicitly said that the Original emil is still alive... Also that the clones are creating more of themselves again.

@@CM-hx5dp I want Emil to be the next protagonist if there's gonna be a future game of the series.

Humanity was pretty desperate since a god from another dimension was subjugating and killing their kind, Experiments with adults yielded too little fruit while children had generally more favorable outcomes.

yeah I forgot about that. I wonder why kids had better results though.

It is possible that because they were still growing so they could ,,evolve" more.

Who knows. Maybe because children have developmental minds and bodies that heal faster and can learn differently than adults do. Or maybe because Yoko Taro...

It's just like Spartan-II Project in Halo. Only 1/3 of the kids survived till the end, the result was ultimate soldiers.

JenkinsHTTK show me what you got!

madscientistshusta :3

TRIED was the key word here.

24 hours in a week and a half isn't extreme. I finished Persona 5 at 85 hours in a week