@@ElizabethRoseMonadoSword hard to tell since they don’t take dislikes into account for comments, and that’s before the videos got their dislikes hidden
Filipino raised man here, I can confirm that the English versions are more tamed and less brutal than the one's in Tagalog (Filipino language) and oh boy, is the language/comments brutal
Filipinos are either the chillest, nicest people or the loudest trashtalkers you'll ever encounter. Unfortunately for Millie, she stirred the hornet's nest.
Filipino here. For context on why Millie was so hated by Filipinos. In the past, in her PL, Millie used to market herself with filipinos, this made other filipinos support her strongly. She became one of the popular filipino vtubers. (Iirc Shes not full filipino, just half cmiiw but she talks, markets and caters to filipinos). Then when she debut in NijisanjiEN as Millie, almost all of the filipino vtuber groups celebrated, hyped and increased the attention for Millie across all plstforms (before 2023, Nijisanji used to be seen as the game changer in vtubing as they are not "idol-oriented" while both Hololive and vshojo were still making mistakes after another.) But then in the middle of her career in Nijisanji, she started distancing herself from her filipino fans and the traditions, slangs and culture that used to be her content. She started catering to western market. The turning point is when on her one stream, she denounced her filipino status and cleared that shes Canadian. This could have been just a minor statement if not for the timing where MOST of her chat were talking in tagalog and not english, and she was ignoring most of them and they were checking on why shes not doing her filipino content anymore. This obviously at first confused and hurt her filipino fans who took to FB(fb is one of the largest platform used mostly in ph), posting or even debating if she was sincere with them in the past. Then this confusion turned to anger and hate when they connected everything and found her that shes just using them for clout. This is one of the no go if youre trying to bait filipino viewers. And Millie crossed that line. Her SC and views suffered as most of her supporters and those who spread her clips around platforms quit. Then when 2023 came around which was the start of Nijisanjis fall, Millir started baiting back her filipino fans by posting that "shes one of them" or shes eating filipino food again and she misses ph. This was another mistake. You dont ever go back after you kicked out your filipino fans. This will just fuel their hate that youre trying to get them again just because you are now falling. You are now here. Millie is one of the hated vtuber in philippines right now. This got worse when it was proven that Millie in her PL was caught bullying another Vtuber into quitting. So yeah, Millie is even hated worse than Elira or Mikeneko here in Ph. *Edit: I realized just now that this channel keeps deleting my replies that have compiled sources and archive or links despite censoring it. So you have to search it on your own. I tried everything and im tired seeing all my replies getting deleted. This channel may have actively deleted them or hit filter because it also involves former indies who quit and victims that may get doxxed. And this is not new to drama channels to delete comments that have full explanation and sources so that the channel can generate more outrage and traction. For those who keep complaining about not getting answers. You show a pikachu face when you dont get answers because you didnt read the replies and only read the first or two sentences. Also youre in the internet. You can essily google it nowadays if you really want to know more. Thanks to archive sites, VTreddit or VT forums, its easy to find compiled docs and sources. Its easy using just the keywords that are related to it. Youre not a caveman so im sure you can use google.
Appreciate the context here. As someone who was a short-lived fan of Millie because of the funny clips... I didn't even know 90% of this, especially since I don't frequent FB groups all that often lately. Thanks for this! At least, now I know even better why the flack Millie's getting lately is quite deserved... even tho it can get a bit too BRUTAL out there.
I can't believe she's someone who has ever been close friends with holoID girls.., Maybe the holoID girls are now disappointed with Millie, there is no longer any interaction between them.
Filipinos were notorious for being toxic online so there's that. And before all you makabayans reply negatively to this, please take note that I'm a Filipino (shamefully), too.
Filipino here. And, yes, it is quite true that there's a culture of absolutely brutal toxicity here in my country. And it's not even the fun kind of old MW2 lobbies kind of toxic. It's the... we'll st@b your eyesockets with a pencil kind of toxic. Going through college with people like that was not a fun one, especially since I had to maintain a scholarship. I got made fun of just because I was different and actually wanted to be an honest student as much as I could and get good grades. And, believe me, you don't want to work with those types in group-oriented college tasks. Nearly failed a few subjects near the end of it all because of those kinds of folks. Not fun. And they'll do everything in their power to gaslight everyone else into making you out as the villain even when you have all the evidence to prove them otherwise. Let's just say I wasn't all too popular in those days. To people like that, being serious in taking responsibilities properly was boring. So, yeah, I'm not particularly a fan of the extreme lengths my fellow countrymen will do to put someone down... sometimes... you can tell that the target of hatred might deserve it to some extent... but, more often than not, you start to figure out just how weirdly artificial but also absurdly passionate this malignant attitude can get. And all that can also work the other way around. So, even when you're supported... there's always a catch. While Millie did bring this upon herself to an extent... I partly do feel bad for her. Emphasis on partly.
Siya naman nagdala sa sarili niya niyan. Wala tayo magagawa kung ganyan yung ibang tao kasi kung maayos siya makisama di yan mangyayari. Grabe mag clout chase sa pagiging pinoy tapos babawiin bigla. Isabay mo pa yung kay Selen ayan ang napala.
There's a reason why I avoid playing games that's populated by a lot of Peenoise. Examples: Valorant, DOTA 2, LoL, ML, Genshin and CODM. I'd rather stick to games with a lot of international players because they at least know how to communicate and provide or receive info and advice unlike Peenoise who are easily triggered if you give them good advice or constructive criticism.
@@Eins3467 , yeah. Tama naman yung points mo. Marami talagang kasalanan din si Millie sa pakikisama nya lalo kung totoo nga talaga yung mga allegations na isa sya sa pinakanagbully kay Selen.
Just gonna paste what i wrote in a comment here: 1.) The reason filipino fans hate her for "denouncing" her being filipino is the fact that she leaned strongly with the bit that she's Filipino, told her filipino chat to be more expressive of their nationality, THEN suddenly antagonizing them for speaking/behaving like a filipino when she's the one who started it. She gaslit her filipino fans, made them out to be detractors when they were just following her lead and approval. Big no no. 2.) "Denouncing" / not acknowledging your country of origin is always unethical and insulting to the people of your country of origin. We get it, you may have had a rough life here, but suddenly belittling your fellow filipinos when theyre experiencing hardship compared to your new life elsewhere is a total asshole move. Anyone, even non-filipinos, would find that downright immoral and wrong. Note that as much as there are certain filipino traits that are just toxic, there are also certain filipino traits that allowed you to find success abroad, and you can't just not acknowledge that.
Yeah there's acknowledging the problems of your homeland and their culture(e.g. really extreme pinoy pride, some degree of anti-intellectualism, corruption, etc.) and there's that.
@@Pulstar232 i could say the same thing about americans and nobody will bat an eye (especially the anti-intellectualism). Those arent exclusive to us bro.
Counterpoint: Its fucking abnoxious when they try to celebrate "Pinoy Pride" when someone not born or raised here achieves something. All they need is a vague connect to a filipino and they run that shit. Also those traits are not exclusive to filipinos.
@@ArcanistShion she sometimes defends the company, from what I've heard. I'm doing my own research now Edit: also when you support the black companies talent your also supporting them.
@@aarongallardo3684Millie first say she is a Canadian but she is Filipino. That pissed fans off. Then she then give 'concern' to Selen aka Doki when it was ironic of what is happening. On top of defending a black company.
1:28 Anyone else had the feeling there that her avatar's appearance paired with what she said had that typical 'cutesy anime villainess pretending to be innocent' vibe to it? I could even hear the mocking, pretentiously nice tone of her voice in my head. X'D
Yeah, definitely gives off "why would they do this" meme vibes I kinda wish rance would get in there and "correct" her like that bratty princess who tortured people lmao
@@degeneratebeats298 Would Rance even be interested in her? I remember him straight up kicking out a girl with a similar body type to Millie in Senguko
@@USELESSDCK Again, in Rance: The Quest for Hikari episode 4 he did "correct" a bratty queen who had a loli-ish type body because she was abducting and torturing other women. So clearly, he's not against smashing petite body types: he just normally prefers boob game to be strong.
And this is why you should never test SEA people about their pride and patriotism, especially indos and Filipinos,And I'm saying this as an Indonesian myself. If you used to market yourself as SEA,You probably should stick to that even if you change,atleast in some capacity
Biboo is hitting a nice balance of "Yeah I'm Thai but I'm mostly American, culturally, and have to have my mom practice with me before I can attend Thai-language events".
Its all just a fake veneer though, you see the same shit in Africa, south Asia, etc, this artificially prodded and expressed patriotism. Apelike hooting and hollering and making poses to pretend you were always great. For most postcolonials, its just wanting to seem strong, to feel like you fought for your independence, instead of the "shame" of having it handed to you. So Indians and Pakistanis pretend they fought the British Empire (instead of signing up for it in the millions), bc their popular culture and books tell them they did. So Indonesians (Javans) pretend that they won their independence war against the Dutch, when they lost totally and only the hated Washington DC gave them their independence by strong arming the Dutch into giving it all up, bc their manufactured culture and books tell them they did. And on and on and on. Yeah these are necessary things in a way for founding postcolonial cliques to make a functioning country, its to invent a fake history, and squeeze the juice of a fake nationalism from it. I don't despise them for it, its necessary to weld a singular state from a pre-colonial mishmash of hundreds of local despotisms, principalities, duchies, kingdoms, etc. But it makes for an annoying aspect of internet communities in the modern day. All these postcolonial thirdworlders online hooting and hollering, clawing people down, especially their own "kin", for "patriotism", "nationalism", its all so fake and gay.
@@sophiasfavorite9646 its not a nice balance shesj ust lucky so far from how often ive seen sea fans behave like animals across plenty streamers dont forget bao eating a whole harassment campaign bc shes not perfectly fluent in some thai language kek
In the novel written by one of our most esteemed authors and national hero, we have a character called "Doña Victorina". Who pretends she is of Hispanic descent instead of being a native, and looks embarrasing because of it. Sounds familiar?
For context on global peeps the Novel is called “Noli me Tangere” authored & written by José P. Rizal, our National Hero To Add: the English translation name of the Novel is “Touch me Not”
@@flipkiller8521DO NOT BRING THY NAME WITH ANY CORRELATION TO US LMFAO Atleast Don Quixote in the story was Disillusioned at the end because his belief was shattered by the Mirror knight who is an actual knight. IRL there are no Mirror Knights, only hammers that will beat you down if you grow to illusioned..... LIMBUS COMPANYYYYYYYYY
I used to pray that she's not one of them I remember when she's not joined Nijisanji yet, she used to do collab with hololive ID girls, especially Moona Hoshinova 😔
@@nocturnenix I don't remember if I saw it on 4chan, reddit, or another vtuber forum site. But its somewhat well-known within those communities the blunder that Millie and Elira did to their respective indie vtubers they bullied/harass/backstab to the point that those vtubers graduated. Pretty much Niji has a couple or a lot of shitty livers in real life. We have Vox, Millie, Enna, Elira, and Finana to name a few. Even though those community shit on EN a lot. They still wish livers who are still well loved by the community to graduate, distance themselves from Niji, and return to their past lives. Those livers are Rosemi, Scarle, Petram, Vivi, Kunai, Vanta and.......I forgot the others.
I have a coworker who works remotely from the Philippines who is extremely kind. I know the margin there is literally only one person, but still, friendly regards to the Philippine bros out there, ya’ll are chill.
filipinos have 2 sides: - literally a quarter of overseas nurses, because we have such kind and caring people with a beautiful culture of hospitality - 5 different slurs in 5 seconds in a dota chat on vc from a 12-20 year old probably in an internet cafe, no i am not exaggerating
@@raffimolero64 - people who will try to scam you knowing you are a tourist. They can't even make their lies believable. Though to be fair, happens to a lot of 3rd world countries.
they carry their families near malls to beg for money. They even tug you and be mad if you don't give them money. I don't feel bad for them, government gave them free house and land to live, then sell it and they're back to the streets once more.
@@zerrodefex Little secret about Europe: the French are soldiers and the Germans are artists. That's why the French go gaga for artists and the Germans go gaga for militarism: those are REMARKABLE qualities in their countries.
as indonesian this statement is real they'r chill especially when i know them on my discord but when it comes to random game matchmaking u will expect some slurs with tagalog
NGL, just the thought of maple syrup on any Filipino food other than pandesal (and even then, only small amounts of syrup) is absolutely DISGUSTING to me.
ngl some of this comments are kinda bad mouthing filipinos like "ye if they're nc to u that just mean their laughing at you from behind" yada yada, ye we get that we are a toxic thx to our pride and sht, filipino are nc to you as long as you're being nc to them,but if ya walk across the line and hurt our pride? ye y'know what will happen...
Before the Selen drama happened in February, I used to like Millie. She was funny and I liked her design. But after her complimenting Finana "Backstabber" Ryugu in a past Tweet and noticing that she's a huge Nijisanji shill, I've since unfollowed and blocked her. It felt quite satisfying.
I thought they were all cool until this all happened. D: I liked Enna and I was fine with the others like Elira and Millie but now things are so tainted I can’t look at past clips of those people without feeling dirty.
Same, she was prolly my favorite after Nina in terms of personality at the time. Hearing the plausibility of what she could have done just hurt to think about, tho now I couldn’t care less
It's sad to see honestly, she was one of the early flag bearers of a niche market as Filo Vtubers were hard to come by a few years ago, let alone ones who are popular internationaly. Defending a company that destroys the lives of their own employees was a horrible decision made by Millie, still I would like to hear own side of the story, yes her personality was hinted at from the way she treated her gen mates and coworkers but hearing it from Millie herself wold put my mind at ease.
I blame niji corrupting her, specifically someone from there. Lyrica was an early niche Filipino Chuba long before this and was ok, and was super helpful to early HoloID. She was considered honorary HoloID by many at that point, Moona asking her to go sign up with em. If she took that offer and didn't go to Niji to start their stupid clique, then alternative timeline Millie would only be worried about what sponsor to turn down because of so much choices cause Holo. I 100% can say with confidence that Moona would've straightened her out so she doesn't start any shit.
@@tyranidswarmlord9722 the sad thing is when HoloEN and NijiEN talents were finally allowed to collab, she didn't even collab with any of the HoloID that she hung out with in her previous persona. Really baffling to me personally. Edit: if she joined HoloID I think it wouldn't work out coz obviously she's not indonesian but her sticking around for the long haul with Moona may have gotten her opportunities to join an HoloEN gen. Joining Niji was just too great of an opportunity to pass up and things were still fine back then. A shame the EN branch is mismanaged and understaffed so much...
@@vkarvanzer4243 Although that is true her sense of humor, way of speaking and her stories got me hooked in, as there was a entertainer which I could relate to
OH NO! DID SHE CHECK WITH MANAGEMENT BEFORE MAKING A DRAMA/VAGUEPOSTING TWEET? edit: yup, figured I should've waited until the end of the video, but at least someone made the (obvious) reference
It should be mentioned that she was indeed not raised in the phillipines, she was raised in Canada. That said her family were very traditionally Filipino when raising her.
The problem here is she Marketed herself as "Filipino Vtuber" to fans that paved her way to success, even when she wasn't part of Niji-En, then denouncing she's not Filipino but Canadian, ofc that would spark a reaction from Filipinos who are or may not be her fan, she did not deserve this, but this is what SocMed feels like if you associate yourself as Filipino
This attitude is why my immigrant Filipino family doesn't like other Filipinos very much. My Uncle especially. He runs a restaurant and doesn't like hiring new Filipino immigrants, because he said they have an attitude like they should get an easier time at work compared to others, because the boss is also Filipino.
This. I've lost count how many times a Filipino immigrant who just met me a second ago expects me to do something illegal for them just because we're both Filipino. I ain't breaking the law for you just because you're a Filipino, buddy.
@@danieltafoya9841 I think Korean immigrant community is a bit away from that seemingly universal trend. Koreans often say themselves that "if you go abroad, the worst people to make company are the same Koreans, they just approach you to rip you off" But still we have vibrant immigrant communities here and there. Maybe these bad self-reputations are rather recent thingy.
@@danieltafoya9841 Kinda is, tho with different motives/mindset. Instead of for familial reason like the og comment said, some just think that their people more superior.
I have glanced over the articles, but never really read too deep into the whole drama. Did Enna get involved in all this mess too? I remember really only seeing Elira catching flak, and obviously Millie as this video suggests.
@@ugib8377 not the Filipino stuff (that I know of), but because of her harsh personality there were many bad comments she made when the whole Selen thing happened.
@@ugib8377 You could watch Parrot4chan's saga on the topic to fully update yourself. Of course Enna's yabs are included but can't remember specifically which video.
millie cant stand on her own, she thinks letting go of her cliche and company support is the end of her. if she only have a little bit of self respect for herself and decent moral compass, she should know we filipino would carry her if she became indie, but she's the one who let go of us, we cant lend a hand to someone who don't deserve it.
millie isnt like this before, like this bad of a person, at least to me she isn't, but it seems constant manipulation of kurosanji and elira being the mouthpiece of Kurosanji EN seems to inflate her Ego. her humbleness disappear each time she's getting mainstream. her old self seems to be kind. she was an idiot, for sure, before all of this it was one of her cute side, now it looks like it became her downfall cause she cant think for herself and always kissing elira and kurosanji ass to not anger them. RIP old millie.
Man, back when i'm Holo-only fans, when i tried to check out Niji i used to enjoy watching Elira, Millie, Enna, and Selen. Crazy how things turned out, but i'm glad
This was from Niji sub reddit, noone mods there so its basically a place for haters to just freely talks about what they hate. Cant say anything about twitter not being involved tho, hearing this they surely will cause more heat.
I'm very curious as to why what's left of the non JP talents of Nijisanji haven't jumped shipped already. They're pretty much 6 feet under at this point.
willing to bet it's because most of them have cornered themselves into a lose lose situation where they can't join another company because they are most likely blacklisted,their careers are basically bust and the only one willing to even take them in is nijisanji
They have a lengthy and arduous process for graduations Apparently, if you apply for graduation, you've to pay a hefty fee and sign some kind of NDA (that is not legal by any means) From what I heard a few months ago, they've queued some EN talents for graduation and there's supposed to be 1 graduation per month I thought Scarle would be one of the first to instantly apply for a graduation after the dust settled but I saw her streaming with a new model the other day ...
@@shampooingshampoo8764 The sad part is, a bunch of the still-innocent ones had a chance to bail when the writing was on the wall, but choose loyalty over common sense, and now it's assumed anyone who stayed was at least complacent with what happened to Dokibird and the others, making them "guilty by association" even if they never did anything wrong themselves. They made a bad call and now they're paying for it until the very end, because like you said, even if any of them left *right now* they're likely blacklisted by other vtuber agencies, and hardly anyone will follow them if they went independent. Live by the black company, die by the black company, even as the CEO steps over their corpses.
Sunk cost fallacy and Stockholm Syndrome is what I hazard to guess. They've spent years building up what they have now despite the constant dicking over by the tops.
Filipinos is said to be notorious for being toxic online and niji is just an easy target for these adult childs. Also selen waas born and raised in her homecountry but claimed to be Canadian, double standards smh.
To be completely honest, the statement about Filipinos either being your biggest and most proudest supportive fans or your most brutal hater is too true. We tend to give the people we support A LOT of benefit of the doubt if they made a mistake that's still redeemable. But if it's just irredeemably bad? Hoo boy, hope your career survives.
NijiEN had such a great fucking thing going for them and their fans.. to see them fumble this hard is just tragic. I was never really hugely into them, but I enjoyed the clips and stuff I did catch.. so I supported them from across the fence. Now even I feel betrayed.. I can't imagine how true ex-NijiEN fans feel.
Maybe this will get me back lash? Can't we just take the comment as it was? "you're not a failure, you're just in a difficult point in time right now" ? I'm not a big follower in terms of V-tubers, I mean I still watch them, but this reaction she gotten is way to negative or even a stretch? I'd like to think she was just trying to say something positive, but then this happened. Feels bad man.
It's seems to be a combination of Antis, Filipino pride, etc. The way they word it, a Filipino heritage Canadian that deny their own heritage is a traitor.
Filipino here. I've loved NijiEN in the past and of course Millie. But when Millie and Enna addressed about the "play button and % gains" in their stream trying to defend NijiEN, I thought to myself "hah? anong pinagsasabi mo ate?" and that's the end of the road for me. And then Sayu, Mysta, Nina, Kyo, Pomu, and finally Selen left NijiEN (Sayu and Selen got kicked out. FORCEFULLY!). They might be ordered to say things of maybe the PR management had taken on their accounts to post some stupid things trying to defend the company but of course that move especially blabbering it on stream is just hilariously bonkers if you ask me. And yes Filipinos can be really toxic especially when equiped with keyboards lmao. It's so sad to see this kind of events happening on Millie and I think theyre just scared of losing the job and doesn't mind the backlash but for me, it's not really worth it. Trying to defend a vile company is just asking for your grave.
I don't know how i was recommended this video, I don't watch vtubers at all. But i can say that all parties were being huge dicks to eachother even of I don't understand it. Not a kind soul out of all of em at all. If this is what all this is about i will ask youtube to not recommend me stuff like this again.
I honestly have no idea what this chick did, only the basic stuff about Niji, but my god, it sounds like she is getting hammered for making a semi-motivational post. Of course, I also don't know much context on whether this was like a backhanded thing or not.
Bro if Millie said she she was Canadian despite being a born and raised Filipino, to a lot of us that feels like a familial betrayal. Filipino has hierarchy just like any Asian countries, but ours is different. Instead of something like "senpai" or "oppa" and so. Ours is literally "Kuya" and "Ate" for brother and sister respectively, even though you aren't related to them, as well as "Tito" and "Tita" meaning Uncle and Aunt.
wasnt the issue more that she pandered to her filipino heritage when it helped her growth and abandoned it the moment the filipino pride of her fans became to much for her to handle?
Its more of her joking than it is an insult. I can clearly see if someone is joking. This "Familial" nonsense is popping up because Peenos suddenly want to have a reason to hate her. Im a peeno.
Yo Hei RWBY, hell, almost all Rooster Teeth branded soundtracks were removed from music streaming sites such as Spotify on the 4th, something small and easy to cover since convention season is busy
It is explained at 0:19 The "clique" thing is not confirmed so you shouldn't base anything on that. Everyone has done good and bad things, but in Nijisanji, everyone's wrong doings are under the microscope.
@@fluffyhamster310 Yeah I checked that yesterday to see if it's true but I was still doubting myself except now. I have mixed feelings now that I know about it
That "Wait what happened" comment seems suspiciously poorly written and very much like a translation for a supposed EN Vtuber's account. AKA managers clearly took control of her twitter account and didn't even bother checking for grade 1 grammar.
en managers are minimum wage with passing english, Just enough to pass messages from JP side along. Frankly you have to have good JP to thrive in kurosanji
The problem with Nijisanji is that even the fanbase that stayed (aka Nijisisters) are toxic as hell. People who actually cared about the well-being of talents all left after the Selen incident. Now there are only assholes left who just stayed due to brand loyalty. They don't really care what happens to the talents.
Just gonna vent out a bit... 0:20 I really don't like "Filipino Pride". We feel "pride" in something other people do just because they're Filipinos. We are so desperate for representation that we inject ourselves in every small thing a Filipino is involved. It's like the western woke crowd, but worse. I remember a Filipino American actress/ singer who mentioned her lineage as having Filipino blood but didn't really connect with her Filipino side, and I think the Filipinos hated her for that. I think there was also a foreigner guy who made a rude comment in an interview and Filipinos were considering putting a travel ban on him. You can get your online life ruined by making negative (even constructive) criticisms towards Filipinos. We are pretty insufferable online, which you can see reflected in our infamous MOBA reputation.
Filipinos are also known for backstabbing each other in the most inconvenient time. Filipino pride in larger sense and context is technically a farce. Nobody does patriotism right these days since Heneral Luna.
Don't forget how once that person is done, they talk crap about that person. Remember Donaire and Tapales vs Inoue? The moment Donaire and Tapales lost, they talked crapped about them. Mind you, Donaire and tapales are former world champions.
@@b.heaven9234 Yep it's actually sad to see tbh. Like you have TWO world champions who are actively fighting. Donaire is arguably a hall of famer. But to talk bad about him because he lost to Inoue????
@@b.heaven9234 it's really sad to see them talk crap about Donaire and Tapales after they lost. In fact, Donaire has been Inoue's hardest fight as of this day and arguably, Donaire is a hall of famer, compared to the 3rd rate boxer they moved the goalpost to, I think his name is Alas something
It’s been about 4 months since this started. My anger has been replaced by sadness at how the cracks are already showing in the genre. Vtubing was a beacon of positivity. But the narcissists and grifters found their way into it, and we never find out their true colors until well after we become invested and attached. I always knew they would eventually. That’s just how life is. I just didn’t think it would happen so soon.
2020 - 2021 was the best years for Vtubers. Now The term is so bastardized that it is even bad to say it sometimes. Or when u see is a Vtuber your like "not this again man".
2020 was the end of the golden age of vtubers. that's the year hololive EN launched and then nijisanji en and vtubers became popular in the west. And then everyone wanted to become a vtuber and it became oversaturated.
Ouch... those comments written in filipino definitely would hurt my eyes to read. And I say that as a Filipino. Old MLBB trashtalking are probably tamer
it's sad cause I watched millie before she joined nijisanji. I enjoyed her company and even enjoyed her filipino streams. She even had a couple of collab with our other more local filipino vtubers and it was honestly a laughtrip. and that part about Filipinos being prideful and supportive but will easily change sides is insanely true. We are kind people but goddamn that kindness can change quickly
@@user-nn6lu9mm9n People that hate Enna are people that don't watch Enna...A lot of her toxicity are what get clipped because they are hilarious and usually when she is toxic, she's in collabs. However, people mistake her toxicity for her complete personality. She's actually toned herself down quite a bit in the last year or so, but even then, she's not all that toxic even in her hayday. She's just the wildcard in collabs. If you actually watch her streams, she's a bit dark humored at times, but generally pretty tame compared to some other vtubers. Her style of music though...probably one of teh best vtubers out there atleast in my opinion. I've always been a fan of that style. As for why people could hate Enna, I can think of a couple ideas but even I'm not entirely sure they have any merit to them. 1 ) Supposedly she's part of some clique with Elira and Millie although there's no evidence to support the clique exists...and Enna doesn't even have her 3.0 brushup whereas a lot of people in Nijisanji EN have received theres. Infact, to claim Enna has some sort of special treatment...I'm not even sure where anyone's getting that idea? 2 ) There is a clip out that states you should not look for the truth about a week or two after Selen's termiantion happened. Two things wrong with that, 1. It was clipped out of context. Enna was stating that you shouldn't ruin your mental health over trying to look into the truth because it was a variable shitstorm at the time. 2. It was a membership stream, you're not suppose to clip things out of membership streams. Streamers do membership streams because they feel confident in their audience so they can be themselvers a little bit and be more honest about how things are. This actually infuriated Enna because she trusts her members and this was a backstab at her to hurt her reputation in something that was taken completely out of context just to fuel the drama. 3 ) Some believe she was instrumental in bullying Selen...however, Selen has never stated she was bullied by any Livers, nor has Dokibird. They're even part of the group Nijicancelled and if Selen hated Enna...I don't think she'd be doing so many collabs with Enna.
@@Kaimine08 thanks for the explanation. Actually I'm fine if people don't like her content, i understand that her dark jokes is not for everyone. it's just not right if people spread horrible rumours about her just because they don't like her.
@@user-nn6lu9mm9n Personally, I'm only stating the rumors I know about. I've given up on watching vtuber news channels simply because they've lost their way. They're not news channels anymore, they're drama channels aiming for a quick buck. They're not going to report that Millie's dog died a couple weeks ago and she's been grieving over that, they're not going to report that she donated a couple thousand to an animal shelter, they're going to report how much hate the SEA people have towards her. As for Enna, they're not going to report that Enna tried to have a birthday stream for her vtuber mother but was hijacked by antis who posted posted hateful messages aimed at Enna over art people drew for KT-mama, they're going to post how she was taken out of context on a membership stream. In my opinion, just enjoy watching vtubers and pick the vtubers you enjoy watching. Ignore vtuber news channels because their biases are pretty obvious.
Thing is, she's been carrot sticking her Filipino fanbase when she was transitioning to the Millie persona from her old persona/migrating to Canada. After the switch, "what? I'm Canadian". How disrespectful is that to your old fanbase when they were so loyal supporting your switch/literal migration to Canada.
I disagree, im Filipino so i may be biased and i dont really know Millie so take what i say with a grain of salt.The Philippines has been unther the tumb of more powerful countries for centuries Spain mostly, Japan in WW2 and then Murica after until they gave us Freedom and Independence this instilled in us that Every Filipino Victory is a Victory for Every Filipino Worldwide. It wouldn't be a problem if she said she was Filipino-Canadian or a Dual Citizen but no she denounced her her heritage, to me as a Fil what shes saying is "I am now better than you because im no longer Filipino". Its actually Harder to make the Fil community hate you since jokes and humor is so intertwined in our society that we would have still probably supported her no matter what shes said. Hell i would defend her shilling of Niji since their her employer and we're a Third World Country we know exactly how important money is. But yeah She gets what she fucking deserves, no sympathy from me
@@mrpsyco5884 that’s cool, but y’all do yourselves no favors by leaving those sorts of comments. Why do you care so much that some random woman refers to herself as Canadian now? It literally doesn’t affect you at all.
You guys are really digging for anything to slander Niji EN at this point. I dont fw them either but she did nothing to warrant this amount of hate. You all are just as bad as people who defend what the Niji EN management has done. Stop high horsing and bullying people because you feel justified now. Its fking disgusting to watch from the outside of all this drama
I don't like Millie nor Niji but She has in every right to denounce a country even if she was from there, people have their reasons many of them are the reason why they leave their country of origin. So I don't really see it a problem for her to denounce it. I mean when you become a citizen of another country, most of the time you have to denounce your affiliation with your country of origin anyways. Sure you can get dual citizenship, but a lot of people don't because they left the country for a reason. The Filipino thing always makes me cringe seeing them take credit for hard work others do even when those people do not raise their flag, even blind "fan base" and then they get angry. Like?? . It's giga cringe. I mean, being like that is why people don't wanna associate with you in the first place. Stop vicariously living through other people's work.
@@JJ_loves_JP You already know why. One of them are people like the ones commenting on her. They will blindly support "Filipino" even when those people don't recognize themselves are such, then when the person says something they immediately get butthurt when the person never said they're on their side. They also like to take credit for an individual's hard work and pass it off as "Filippino Greatness" when that person doesn't recognize it as such. It's just giga cringe. And her family left the country for a reason. Also a lot of the time, the Filipinos I know here in the US only associates with their country of origin because they still have family there, the ones that don't are full on American. Similar to many other fellow asians, specially the first gen immigrants, even the ones with family left no longer associates.
@@hirotakasugi4891 Except Millie WAS on Fillipino side and her entire schtick was that she is Fillipino as well as her CORE FANBASE was Fillipino bruh Also you consider patriotism cringe? Fillipinos have a very strong patriotism, stronger than even US of A Citizenship is just a piece of paper, nation is your soul, that's the essence of patriotism. and you sure as shit do not betray your soul like Millie did(and she still tries to pay lip service to the Phillipines btw which everyone sees as false).
@@Redhead-pf8le They don't have strong patriotism. They take credit for other people's work, that's not patriotism, it's to fill their ego, in fact look at the boxing scene, where they were last relevant. They keep taking credit for work of an athlete. Look up Inoue vs Marlon Tapales. They were all cheering for him and the moment Tapales lost they started talking shit and moving the goal post to another Filipino fighter That's not patriotism, that's egotism.. More than 2million leave a year and less than 1/4 EVER come back to actually improve their country. On top of that, they prefer other asian country's culture instead of developing their own. In fact, if you see, more than half of their entertainment on their TV is a rehash of already existing JP, Korean, and even Spanish TV series. I don't care if she was or she wasn't. It's her choice to leave the country and to denounce it anytime.
Some people are baffled at how brutal Filipinos can be. I'd like to remind you that our national hero, Dr. Jose P. Rizal, lived by the philosophy of "The Pen is Mightier than the Sword" which he quoted often in his works. So it makes sense that the way of beating someone down verbally in such a brutal fashion is a Filipino way of life - and also explains why the simple act of Millie verbally renouncing being a Filipino hurt the PH community deeply.
I genuinely feel sad about this. From the few videos of her that I've seen, Millie gives the impression of someone who has attachment issues. It can be both bad and good in certain circumstances, but it generally makes someone who has this to become loyal to a fault. It doesn't make her an outright evil person, but it also doesn't make her a virtuous one. Which I would say goes for most of the people nowadays. Talk about getting stuck in between hard objects that are constantly colliding with each other.
Peenos are 2 faced backstabbing peeps by default. They're trying to find a reason to hate her because all of nijien has gone to shizz. All of Banter with her peeno fans are now being used against her in a different light.
As a Filipino, I'm not surprised Millie is getting attacked on Facebook 💀 she had a potential to attract Filipino viewers as a Vtuber, but she wasted that potential after she said she's a Canadian and went full English on her streams 💀
Meh. I don't really see the point of berating the Nijisanji talents. My main problem is with the CEO and upper-management. Insulting the rank-and-file seems both counterproductive and needlessly spiteful -- especially in response to a fairly innocuous message like the one Millie tweeted out.
Who cares? Sorry but why cover this? This is not news at all, this is just a bunch of racial bullying. The Drama and stuff happened, why cover hate watchers and give then attention, they are the worst part of the community. If you dont like someone, say your piece and leave, but these people are dedicating to much time to this and dont deserve the light. I clicked because I though Niji did something again not to read bullying, and harassments.
As a Filipino I don't understand the hate, while I don't like niji and don't watch her streams, why do you have to turn a positive comment into drama? It just so unnecessary and from what I've seen, there is no concrete evidence proving some of these claims. And the Filipino hate comments here actually feeling proud with this type of behaviour is fkn disgusting, once the country gets show in a bad light y'all go crazy lmao. Plus this isn't even news, just a way to spread toxicity.
