Nikon D4 vs Canon 1D X Shootout

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Is this the camera battle of the century or just the flavor of the week? I went ahead and pitted the Nikon D4 with Nikon 70-200 2.8 VRII against the Canon 1D X and 70-200 2.8 IS II in a skateboarding shootout.
As always my is not to test cameras in a studio but take them out in to real world shooting situations and run them through their paces. These are the top of the line offerings from both Nikon and Canon along with their newest 70-200 lenses? Who do you think will win, will there even be a winner?
Starting out I wanted to make it clear that I have long been a Nikon shooter which means I am very familiar with how they work. I understand the focus modes, the shooting speeds and everything else needed for going out to shoot. With that said I had not had the Canon 1D X very long when I conducted this shoot out. I do wish I had more time to work with the Canon before the shoot but it is what it is. Please understand, I do not care which camera comes out on top.
The idea behind the shoot was to attempt to have as close to the same settings as possible form the Nikon to the Canon. I wanted to shoot with the same focus modes, frame rates and focal lengths. Of course in the real world with a moving subject not everything is going to be perfect but we tried our best.
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@hawkeye48 10 лет назад

So after enduring almost 20 minutes of an adult playing on a skateboard and listening to Jared's diarrhea of the mouth, I still have no fucking idea which camera wins the 'shootout'! Not even one shot to view. How lame is that? I think I've had enough of this I Shoot in Raw cowboy from the '70's.

@froknowsphoto 10 лет назад

Not one shot to view, are you kidding me? The shots pop up when they are taken and on the website the FULL RES images are there for you to pixel peep all you would like. Cowboy.

@RokkarTV 10 лет назад

It's sometimes a good idea to look in the info section of the video. i always do that if i feel a review or something else from the video is missing. In most cases, a reviewer have a more in-depth review somewhere else. You speak of diarrhea, there is much of that in your comment, Dale. In my eyes the performance of each camera speaks for itself in the video. image quality; i bet both cameras produce great images.

@Diogene_Balbeur 10 лет назад

Jared Polin In order to counter-balance the commentary you received here, let me thank you for the amazing work your doing for photography fans. With all respect, from Belgium.

@edisamojica4830 10 лет назад

Still canon lead the race

@hawkeye48 10 лет назад

MrKdr500 Well I would have, but you know how it is when you're passing the scene of an ugly wreck....you just can't help but look in disbelief how someone could create such a mess. Speaking of messes, how's your wife doing? Tell her 'Big Boy' (that's what she prefers to call me) says hello.

@YoshiSpendiff 10 лет назад

It's an interesting vid but like 99% of camera reviews the answer is "It doesn't matter." Just pick one!

@KandiKlover 3 года назад

True, people just use it as an excuse for circle jerking and Gear Acquisition Syndrome. Oh look at me guys I'm switching to such and such brand after blowing $10k on current brand durr durr durr

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

You can go look at every single file I took with both cameras. They are posted on flickr and you can get to the link form my web site.

@Wiscompton608 10 лет назад

Jared, if you end up shooting skating again, leave less headroom. You can get just as tight on the skater, if not tighter, without losing context and while making the trick look bigger. Most of your shots cut out the feature he was hitting, had a bunch of unnecessary headroom, and had him right in the middle of the frame. If you had framed him higher or even laid down on the ground when he was tre flipping over the last feature for example, you could have compressed more of the feature and the foreground in the bottom two thirds. It would have made him more prominent, made the trick look bigger, and would have made for an all around more interesting composition. A 70-200 can be an amazing lens for shooting action if it's done right, I'm an action sports photographer and I usually reach for a long lens when I can. Anyway, that's just my two cents. I love that you actually had someone to help you understand shooting something that you didn't have experience in, and it looked like you had a damn good time.

@JediFarce 10 лет назад

70-200mm is too clumsy for skate boarding, especially this sport allows the photographer to get extremely close for his shots.

@davidgill8922 10 лет назад

I don't think you've ever used a good 70-200 on good boy Jedi.....they aren't clumsy at all JediFarce .

@lolsa123 10 лет назад

David Gill i have shot both football and skating with my tamron 70-200 f/2.8, works great =) a bit slower than the nikon one but in the end i shoot more nature with it so i didn't need to spend that extra 700-800$ :)

@JediFarce 10 лет назад

David Gill I use a 70-200 all the time to film people on the ice you moron. Go to my channel. The difference between you and I, is that one of us actually knows what they're talking about.

@xpy1 4 года назад

But he can crop in it's better

@tyblanchard6081 11 лет назад

Critique is never a bad thing my friend, it means a helpful response to your work. It is never bad because it is meant to make things better. There is a huge difference between critique and insult. For an example: You should capitalize the first letters of your sentences. That was a critique, because it will help you. Here is an insult: "Your grammar sucks". It was an insult because it won't help you, but it will put you down. The assertion that people make that "critiques are bad" is false.

@connorb752 10 лет назад

Actually that's a frontside lipslide because the back of the board is over the ledge

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

I dont agree. But again leave some feedback as to what you think would be a better choice.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

Hi, if you have already signed up thank you. But in marketing new people see the videos every day so I am letting them know. Thanks.

@Darkest_Soul_187 10 лет назад

Eric should get into a different sport.

@fillegrabben 9 лет назад

He is riding a longboard and a cruiseboard, and thats hard, belive me. So i think he's a legend on skateboard.

@PeterBCPATube 8 лет назад

funny. 9:08 mark: "Ive got some verticals ... I've got some horizonticals ..."

@CarsonFletch 9 лет назад

I was expecting some gaps or something, not long boarding over a double ramp.

@froknowsphoto 9 лет назад

Zephyr Productions So was I, but the boarder we got ended up with the long board. Next time.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

yes.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

Because the Nikon and Canon versions are better than the third party lenses.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

I probably wont do a ton of them. They do take more time so maybe I will.

@Technologyadvisor1 9 лет назад

hi got another question here I have been looking at the 5d mark 1 and 2 for a cheap second hand was thinking if I do a wedding would need a full frame camera was tempted to buy a 7D canon body second hand for around £500 but I can also buy a 1d mark 3 it only has 10 megapixels it would be great for wildlife at 10 frames per second but with a crop of 1.3 is it any good as it does not seem full frame. any ideas thanks......

@SXK32 10 лет назад

Great comparison video...the ID X is a freakin machine gun!! FYI When you shoot skateboarders: people smoking weed and skateboards flying at you and your camera are both par for the course : )

@Potaterrr 9 лет назад

video starts at 4:07 btw

@youngstats215 10 лет назад

I like Jared's videos, but this is a poor review/shootout. I spent 17+ minutes watching this, and all I've learned is the Canon is faster and that he could "shoot with either one of them."

@Stainless404 11 лет назад

Hey Fro, sad story, i bought a used Canon 70-200 f4 IS a while ago, so i don't have warranty. Now the autofocus broke, first it slipped through, now its reaaaally slow. Now i'm wondering what to do. Repair it? Will cost around 400-500€ probably, or buy the 2.8 IS II ? What would you do? I'm very sad to let that lens go, it's so great, and also light... I also thought of the Canon 300 or 200 prime, but i think it is not as practical. What would you do? Cheers.

@chadbeatydop 11 лет назад

Had my first skate park shoot a little over a week ago. It was for a tv spot and it took about 12 takes to get the 3 teenage skaters to land their tricks at the same time. I was using the D800 with the 14-24. I still can't understand how these kids are so awesome and relentless and virtually oblivious to pain not too mention so encouraging to each other. It was a truly awesome experience to see them at work. Thanks for the vid man!

@MarcusfotosDe 11 лет назад

Seems like you where using a relatively closed aperture. Isn't that to easy for the Cameras to perform well then?

@gregchamberlain7554 9 лет назад

Horizoticals?

@Sitti2300 11 лет назад

Better in what way? I decided to go with D4 because it is a low light king. Tests have shown that 1DX has problem focusing in very low light. Also 1DX can't match the noise in low light. However, this doesn't mean D4 is better than 1DX. Each camera has different pros and cons. You must take these into consideration and decide which camera would work better for YOU.

@djwavepad420 11 лет назад

what do you guys think of camera like the canon SX 50 HS and Looking to get a T3i for my first DSLR

@w8tless930 11 лет назад

Hello Jared, do you have problems with the greenish tint when viewing the screen?

@alimukaddes78 6 лет назад

Second-hand Nikon 4D has replaced shutter from an approved dealer, still worth buying or shouldn't buy?

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

I agree with you.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

If it exists its going to be the same exact camera so no need for a new review.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

It honestly doesn't bother me.

@ItsEzlan 11 лет назад

Hey jared , i've been shooting skateboarding for a good 7 Years and i can honestly say you did extremely well for something that you're not used to

@silentdragon9734 7 лет назад

where can i buy that strap he uses for his cameras

@LucasGuerra01 8 лет назад

What camera did you record this video? I'm from Brazil and would like to buy one. Thanks!

@beauwarrington1347 8 лет назад

It's a canon 5d mark III

@SuperDigitalMe 10 лет назад

Yo yo Jared! What about the backfocusing with the D4 like you said in your preview movie for the D4S? Was it solved here or what?

@freddieslaughter1107 7 лет назад

What strap is that on the Nikon?

@nicholassantrizos9092 11 лет назад

Been shooting skateboarding since i was 12, so roughly 10 years, from video to photography and everyone I shoot they never give up. and when they do the do it one more time and nail it.

@pvtjoker90 9 лет назад

he´s the black session filmer from tony hawks 4 :D

@nathanexplosion7442 9 лет назад

benjamin w that was atiba jefferson dude

@Jorda5s 4 года назад

12:00 When the Reefer madness begins haha

@sanoska206 11 лет назад

did u edited the shadows in the pictures?

@lucianoblues8753 11 лет назад

Sorry, but the "shootout" in the title shows (imho) what you should expect from the video. No office review, but the real work with both. Very honest.

@MilanSvitek 11 лет назад

Hey, switching between a D3S, a K-5 IIs, and a T3i is not easy... ... Also, most cameras F*up in their focusing in a changing focal length, so how are they while zooming the lens?

@mihalis1010 8 лет назад

Respectable photographer, just not when it comes to skating. Photographing skating is an art in and of itself. It's more about the board than it is the skater, so when one is photographing skating, they should frame the obstacle and the board and the skater equally and not focus ONLY on the skater. Takes some time to learn. Side note, that front board was actually a frontside lipslide.

@alexdoodd 11 лет назад

Do you think you will make the switch to Canon?

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

I agree.

@johnhaddndiggn5301 10 лет назад

I used to use Minolta in the 90's until round 2005 and now have Canon. All important Canon vs. Nikon is said from 8:39 on. If I were to sell all my Canon gear today and pick up a Nikon I know I would still capture decent images and, more important, I would still have fun. That said I never thought that there is that WHOAAAA issue with any gear that works, but a trusted friend said "Go for Canon, there's a quite cool rebate and you won't feel a difference anyways" this was my way. Funny thing is that he used a Nikon at that time and still does. For what its worth in my opinion both are great companies with great products, this was something I never doubted. But I can learn from this shootout: If you don't have wide lenses handy, you still don't waste your time in a skate park. I will not change my habit of using them there, but I didn't expect to like the 200mm compression at all. Now I have to say it is not as bad as I thought it would be.

@tainadelcaribe 10 лет назад

Thanks!!!

@Elmex_1 9 лет назад

I don't know man. I think a lighter lens lets you move around more and try different angles. Those 70-200 are kinda heavy when you could be walking around and trying stuff differently. Maybe a 85 might work here?

@rendyonline 11 лет назад

"I've got some horizonticals" :D

@KandiKlover 3 года назад

"reefer madness" lmao cryin bout a lil bit of weed

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

No clue, its not something I worry about at all.

@Zahava 11 лет назад

Saying 70-200 is a terrible lens for skateboarding is just plain wrong. While the majority of my work is done with a 17-40L on full frame, I find going tighter can really help. At the same time, its easy for people to shoot wide and not get close enough, especially when you make the jump from UWA to true fisheye, you end up leaving too much empty space in the frame. For those saying get a better skater, this is merely a test, I wasn't expecting Josh Kalis; Fro isn't Atiba or Burnett.

@OrangeMaterial 11 лет назад

props to the person who had to edit all those photos into the video!!

@JediFarce 10 лет назад

Jared would never make it as a skate boarding photographer. He's mistaking hockey for skate boarding, you're not going to be using a long range lens to capture the action in skate boarding as you would with players on the ice.

@likeawhispr 10 лет назад

Sometimes using a longer lens in any sport (to include skating) makes for a better photograph, than shooting wide, although I'd rather usually be up close to the skater, with a 17-35 f/2.8 on the camera most of the time. However, there are some rare times in this context where I'd rather use a longer lens for more compression and subject isolation. What lens or approach is best is totally dependent on what results the photographer is seeking to obtain. There is no such thing as a right or wrong lens.

@mainlymusicman 8 лет назад

yeah the photos are pretty boring. it also doesnt help that the skater is only coming like 3 inches off the ground.

@Proctie1 11 лет назад

I gotta give it to you. You are dedicated to what you do, you listen to constructive criticism but stand your ground as a professional but most surprisingly you are active in a sense that most "youtubers" aren't by replying to a ton of comments. +Respect

@hrabia 10 лет назад

how is the fps when you shoot multiple exposures?

@evan0316 11 лет назад

this may be a dumb question but why is using a tripod not considered part of the "real world experience"?

@alexlindblomdonahue9374 11 лет назад

What's his camera strap called??

@alanarmes951 8 лет назад

Hi I think your show is ace,but would you do a show on older dslr I am only just getting into it and have bought a cannon 350d I love it but I don't no wot sort of lenses to buy,and filters,any help would be great from Alan in uk thanks

@3bphotoCanada 11 лет назад

Interesting you say that because the top skate photographers in the world use medium format. So I don't buy into the whole "focusing speed" and frame rate arguments. It's about anticipation and knowing what you are shooting (and composition) that's the key to skateboard photography.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

Very soon, I hope we can start taking orders again.

@coffeehigh420 9 лет назад

hey fro, do you go to shuel on shabbas?

@sreejinair 11 лет назад

I just love the new word Horizontical

@KlutzyCurtis 11 лет назад

This is a really good video. I like the format of "Here's the gear, let's compare side by side in something you might actually use it for." Do more of these if possible, please.

@adamantiumknot 11 лет назад

If you have Netflix, there's a bunch of great documentaries on some of the innovators of skateboarding. Some of them are really awe-inspiring.

@GentryWaits 10 лет назад

Great job Jared. Keep up the good work. Don't let some of the hater comments below bother you. I had the 1DX and switched to the D4 recently. They are both excellent both are better in some areas than the other. One thing I love about the D4 is clean HDMI out and headphone jack.

@AkersTimothy 11 лет назад

How many stops of dynamic range do either of these have? Are there any comparisons? Thanks

@markdacquel8989 9 лет назад

Ciao! I'm planning to buy a new dslr. But my problem is that what brand I will choose. I'm just 19 years old and a beginner but I love photography all of my life. Can you suggest what brand and what type of dslr can you prefer. Grazie mille!

@IR-xy3ij 9 лет назад

It depends on when you will get the camera and what is your essential requirement. If you want to buy a full frame camera now nikon would be a much better choice because almost all nikon cameras use newer and more advanced Sony sensors. Some say that canon will release some much improved sensors in 2016, but you'll have to wait months before they become available. Speed and af wise canon is slightly better at this moment, (1dx 61 points 12 fps, 7d2 65 points 10 fps). In 2016 nikon will release a 173 point af sensor for the d5 and canon will also make a 100+ points one, and the difference will be minimal again. Nikon: better image quality at this moment Canon: faster af and drive speed at this moment

@iiGravityy 9 лет назад

Mark Dacquel In my three years of photography, I've been settling rather good with my Canon T3i, it's a great camera to begin with and to just mess about with the functions and also really idiot proof to take those stunning photos for you, I've had some great bokeh moments with it, give it a try!

@KAVINSKY311 9 лет назад

+Mark Dacquel sony a6000

@mckay4 11 лет назад

why did you not use a 3rd party lens so you could use same lens on both bodys so that the optics be the same

@stubones 11 лет назад

Great video Jared, looking forward to the file comparisons :) I agree, both cameras are great. Pick your system and go to work...

@cha3119 10 лет назад

Why do cameras need to flutter the mirror when in continuous shutter mode? Interesting point about Canon having faster cycle - what is the resultant IQ. Does faster even mean anything.

@frnkjones40 10 лет назад

If the mirror doesn't flip up, the sensor will not be exposed to light. If it stays up you won't be able to see what you are photographing. The mirror only stays up while shooting video or in bulb mode.

@triumvier 11 лет назад

If you were using the XQD card on the D4 would you think that you could continuously shoot until the card filled up with out filling the buffer first?

@GuyRWood 10 лет назад

Brave guy walking around with 15 grands worth of cameras!

@KandiKlover 3 года назад

Wasn't just walking around but left them laying around. Of course people know better than to try stuff at a skatepark unless they wanna catch some trucks to the head.

@froknowsphoto 11 лет назад

Lol, i wont be getting a d800 any time soon. I am still borrowing one from nikon but only for video.

@tyblanchard6081 11 лет назад

Yeah, thanks, it did help. All right, you got me. But, you made it more obvious that critiques are bad then anything and that's not something you can argue with. You said people "harshly" critique the efforts of others. Harsh means unpleasantly rough or jarring the senses (dictionary definition).

@raredreamfootage 10 лет назад

I thought the D4 locks focus during continuous shooting.

@miller33625 11 лет назад

Thanks! Good review! Can you do the same kind of review indoors, in a lower light situation? In my opinion the 1DX blows away the D4 for anything over ISO 3200.

@tyblanchard6081 11 лет назад

Critiques are never a bad thing. Critique is a helpful, but negative response to a work or effort for the well being of the laborer.

@TheMrBennito 8 лет назад

mr Polin, I took this from yr website:"I did notice that the Canon files seemed to have a little more contrast when they were brought in to lightroom. As you know I love to make my files go boom with contrast and will take all the contrast I can in my files. I am not fully positive that this is the case, it just seemed that way visually to me. In the end it is still what you bring out of the RAW file that truly matters". What is the idea of this loading with contrast? Thank you.I like the non-tripod approach, by the way.

@adriansnetwork 11 лет назад

Can you do photo shoots on cameras like d3200?

@3bphotoCanada 11 лет назад

What's with your hate of the D800. It's a fantastic camera and much more revolutionary than the D4.

@KenCheng 11 лет назад

you can check out the scores over at DxOmark for both cameras. According to their thorough testings, the D4 beats out the 1Dx in dynamic range

@JoshEnVacances 10 лет назад

what strap are you wearing???

@froknowsphoto 10 лет назад

the FroKnowsPhoto I SHOOT RAW BlackRapid Strap. Its on my site store.froknowsphoto.com

@JD-yv2zx 11 лет назад

totally agree with you mate, great idea

@Proctie1 11 лет назад

Looking forward for the second part of this shootout! Great real world demonstration, definitely much better than the boring tripod tests that most guys do.

@haylz27 11 лет назад

Love when you post vids of you actually going out and shooting. Can we get a rapid fire critique this week?

@3bphotoCanada 11 лет назад

Still, Atiba and Burnett don't use telephoto zoom lenses and for a good reason. If you know how to shoot skating properly with the wide lenses you'll get far better images than you ever could with a zoom.

@PeeHooo 11 лет назад

Thanks Jared, really enjoy watching these kind of comparisions! :)

@sunilsooneel2696 9 лет назад

hi, jared.. i m useing canon 700d, now i m planning to upgrade my cam, i m confused between 5dmark3 vs 1dx. kindly suggest me. my purpose is fashion.. thank u.. regards .... sunil purswani.

@gerbensw.6582 9 лет назад

Sunil Sooneel I think you should see for yourself, look at the specifications of both camera's and see what is most suited for you. 1DX is a sports camera, 14fps, i personally think you don't need that for fashion photography.

@BenMensah 9 лет назад

Gerben Sw. Realistically he should go Nikon. Better dynamic range and more push and pull in post for lower iso.

@gerbensw.6582 9 лет назад

Ben Mensah That is also something worth considering yes, however, since he is already shooting with Canon, i suspect him to already have a set of Canon lenses. Switching to Nikon would mean selling all of those and repurchasing Nikon lenses, which could be very expensive, and i'm not sure it would be worth it.

@jmowreader9555 9 лет назад

+Sunil Sooneel Is there a company close to you that rents DSLRs? I would rent one of each for a day and shoot a couple hundred frames on each one. For fashion either camera will work, so it comes down to which one you like best.

@FreeRangePelican 9 лет назад

I love your content but the accent you put on 'Froknowsphoto.com' is seriously irritating. I get that you want too make it memorable but you already have that covered. Trust me :L

@KandiKlover 3 года назад

Nah it's fun i like it. Stop being autistic

@dbauernf 11 лет назад

Amazing video Jared, that's the kind of video that I subscribed for ages ago!

@jackpettit4095 11 лет назад

Hi Jared. Could you let us know what Custom Function settings you used for this shoot? I am particularly interested in the 1D X settings. Thanks

@chazcov08 11 лет назад

That park must be crazy new. It's not even showing on Google maps, but I can tell right where it is.

@OfficialFatLip 11 лет назад

bring it on Fro bro, the 1dx not only rocks on paper, but in action, the babe rules

@MRnoobpawnder 9 лет назад

hey is that philadelphia??

@3bphotoCanada 11 лет назад

the 70-200mm compresses too much for skateboard photos. It's all about context and showing your audience the depth and magnitude of the trick the skater is doing. Wider shots make it look larger than life and gives you an idea of the skaters line that he hit.

@abokwu 11 лет назад

covers head from direct sunlight. also curls as opposed to straight hair acts to cool down direct heat.

@ArrKayCee 9 лет назад

Am I just not in on the "horizontical" joke? I know it's just something you do I just don't know when or where it started.

@adriansnetwork 11 лет назад

I have been subscribed to you a long time and boy you are so good! I really enjoy your videos. You are a awesome photographer and a great talker/youtuber.

@scarmenl 11 лет назад

Thanks for the video. I'm going with the Canon. Not because the Canon is so much better but because I have Canon gear already and like the color. Nikon and Canon are both great systems.

@zeeLibertiner 11 лет назад

Great video and nice shots, Jared! I'd love to see more of that!

@Buraken 11 лет назад

Probably the opposite. The fro shades the head from direct sunlight and keeps it cool.

@MarcOZ2015 10 лет назад

The Canon combo beats Nikon by far ! But, the skater is terrible... Couldn't land any right and not style...man... Thanks Jared... I am looking forward to the new CANON 1D "S" coming up in 2014 !