NileRed Quits YouTube - Safety Third 31 

Nigel could have not announced a break, and we wouldn't have known any better for about 4 months!

Man might just be me but i love the long vids from nigel. Every time i saw one be uploaded i went to get a cold drink, some snacks, muted my phone and just enjoyed the hour of learning and fun

Nigel just needs to hire an editor. A proper editor can follow the existing channel vibe and leave Nigel to just doing the "fun stuff"

ngl I like Nigel's video's because, 1: They're long so you don't have to find a new video every 12 minutes, 2: They are actually really interesting, satisfying and entertaining. These 2 things alone make Nigel one of my favorite youtubers.

nigel: "long videos are a nightmare and destroy my life" "shorts are a nightmare" "I have no more videos to make" "I wanna make jokey videos" "The videos that i make needs to be a certain way and show all the details" What is going on inside this man's brain.

I feel like the whole Nigel-William conversation was just the "I'm just trying to vent / I'm trying to find solutions for you" conversation that never goes anywhere because neither person understands what the other one wants from the conversation.

I'm part of that 99% of people that have no idea what he's doing but his videos are engaging because the pacing is really good and he makes a great job of explaining what he's doing. I really enjoy it. Never thought I'd sit down and watch hour long chemistry videos but here I am...

I appreciate how committed Nigel is to making content he enjoys and likes. Particularly from a film making perspective. When he describes wanting a specific shot in order for a video to be satisfying, that’s really admirable.

No, he doesn't, unallowed

I was really relieved to hear that Nigel wasn’t quitting. As an aspiring chemist, I love the videos and they mean a lot more than just ASMR and some cool shots! All my chem buddies love your vids too. The long videos are my favorite, but it totally makes sense that they would be really draining to do. I think the shorts are really cool too and I hope Nigel will be happy with whatever type of content he chooses to make!

I like that they recorded 3 weeks worth of podcast from the air bnb lol.

As someone who watches Nile Red videos consistently... Can confirm I never have any idea what is going on. I'm a canadian accountant.

The way nigel and will seem to clash at such a spiritual level and yet still get along makes me laugh every time. They keep each other in check.

I would love to see a short about Nigel’s fancy dishwasher

gotta love the Nile red therapy hour

Nilered please do what you want to do. Don't feel pressured to keep doing longform videos because of your fans. That being said I would definitely be in the group that wants you to keep doing long videos.

Has NileRed ever admitted what the dumbest and most dangerous thing he did early in his channel is? Was it the mercury distillation without a fume hood?

I have a friend that does this exact circle thing. It’s exhausting, the whole time you are having a real conversation but the details change ever so slightly as you go on that you wonder if you are crazy and what you are even talking about. Love Nigel btw, the main videos and the shorts are great.

I love the long format NileRed videos, they're a gift for anyone interested in chemistry.

I get it Nile. I just graduated with chemistry and your videos were an amazing help to me. Most of my research was done with inorganic chem but seeing your videos opens me up to different procedures that I wouldn’t know otherwise. Like your arogell video was amazing because in pchem classes we discussed supercritical fluids but not much application. And knowing that there exists a use for sc co2 led me to learn that it’s used to dissolve caffeine from coffee without using dcm. And I also get that these are long. My senior labs were just one thing. Like my senior orgo lab was “synthesis this biphenol” where we had to do the research and find the procedure ourselves and provide proof of the product. And that took all semester. Or my instrumental lab was quantifying how much of an ingredient was used to synthesis a sauce

I hope Nile Red sees this comment and decides to make that new Scalable super hygroscopic polymer films for sustainable moisture harvesting. It apparently is only two chemicals and can be made in a kitchen.

Completely disagree with William; main thing I dig with Nile is someone explaining something I don't understand, arduously, and it increases my interest and understanding over time.

A lot of this seems like Will is projecting, not in a bad way, but the questions he seems to ask seem to boil down to "why can't you just make entertaining but low effort videos" while having talked about how he's struggled with scope creep. I get it though, I get his perspective, but I think why Nigel feels like his responses fall short, is because Will is challenging himself in the guise of doing it to Nigel.

Seems like Will is trying to help but is just too chaotic for Nigel. And Nigel just hasn't made up his own mind. Conversations like this literally go nowhere lmao. It's interesting to see that Nigel is 99% of the time all smiley and friendly. Once you switch topics to his career, he has no chill.

i started watching NileRed prior to my sophomore year of high school. i just completed my second year of my chemistry degree. NileRed was arguably the main reason I fell in love with the field. obviously, do what makes you happy with your channel - but explaining and showing every step in your videos made me constantly want to learn more.

I actually learned how to write lab reports from Nigels videos and I totally understand where he comes from where you have to explain everything because everything is important and each step and failure is critical to essentially report your methods, it's cool, tedious but fundamentally rewarding to be so thorough. And without all that educational content it's basically just a "king of random" video.

I have no idea what’s going on in Nigel’s videos but I like the fact that they’re in depth because I’m slowly picking things up. It’s like a college course only 3 times longer and I don’t get credit.

Nigel’s long videos are my favorite. It’s amazing to see the change from one thing to another, totally different. I respect his failures and commitment to overcome problems. His style of narration. His dry, almost comic book character humor, his attention to clean, beautiful shots and editing. I come back to his videos a lot, because they have so much rewatch value. It’s important to you Nigel, take a break. But know that people really appreciate your work and style. Maybe try more colabs? Try working with assistance during production and editing? I’m not in your shoes, but sharing some of the work might be the only solution.

i love that nilereds videos go into so much detail, but i have studied chemistry for a year and then dropped out, but im still very interested in the proces

Kevin eating toast while chilling and listening to his friends is such a vibe

new fan to NileRed. just found his shorts few weeks ago and so into it. then I found NileRed main channel and got so fascinated to all the long videos. (my favorite one is the cotton candy one) it's a little bit sad that hearing Nigel doesn't wanna do his main channel anymore , but it's okay. It's always okay to take break. just do whatever you want. I'll keep watching and supporting NileRed whenever Nigel come back some day in the future. :)

Hearing Nigel is only making shorts now is like hearing that Gordon Ramsey is only making deep fried mars bars and chips from now on. Shorts are by far the worst thing to happen to youtube in years.

btw is just like to say that will’s idea of why people watch nigel doesn’t really apply to me, i actually do like learning about the chemical process! also, i like the dishwasher steam food idea lol

I hope Nigel would not stop making videos. I love all NileRed video, old one and new one. Personally I love the older video with some more detail explanation on the chemistry part. I will watch whatever videos you put out as long as you still enjoy making it. I never really studied chemistry during my entire education but you (and chubbyemu actually) make me interested in learning chemistry and I'm self studying chemistry now. Not quite university level but I think I can go for IAL or GCE A level exam lol. I am grateful that you bring me into the world of chemistry because I enjoy learning it a lot. Please don't feel any pressure or any obligation on making videos.

25:59 i’ve never heard Nigel laugh so viciously before

I want to see these four do a cubesat mission from scratch. No planning. No editing. No scripting. No explanations. Just raw footage. I'm imagining Allen's entire job is to get Nigel to do his job making chemicals for launch. William reaches out to savvy business entrepreneur Micheal Reeves to secure funding all while Kevin looses his mind building the rocket.

Nigel is literally my favorite youtuber. I love learning. I love the magic of chemistry. I love falling asleep to the videos I have already seen. They are long form. I have watched every video so many times

In the end it's what nigel wants to do but nile red is literally what got me into chemistry and reminded me why I chose to study the sciences in the first place before I found his channel i was failing chem

I totally get why nilered is taking his break, aside from money he wants to enjoy the process as well. I think a good analogy I can think of is like completing a college degree you start off with having something you want to do or don’t have any idea what to do, then once you’ve got one or a lot of things you enjoy/passionate about/have genuine interest in you work towards that goal; but your stuck with a class or something related to your major that doesn’t interest you or isn’t as fun especially if your over working yourself burns you out. So you take a break from school like a gap year or a semester off to reset, and ironically there is some similarities for me; but it’s more so that I needed a break. I hope to see him get back into it at some point.

I feel that if Nile made a video talking about the differences between certain concretes it would be entertaining. Why it heats up when it dries and why some concrete cracks more than others, there would be some form of Nile/chemical reaction/entertainment to it. If I had something to say to all these guys, it’s do whatever feels right, even if it doesn’t go as planned, cause you just might be kicking yourself in the ass down the road if you don’t. Remember “were our own biggest critics.” I’m a big fan of all you guys and your work, even that crazed Aussie who tried going swimming with sharks to prove his shark proof suit was sound. 🤣

I've learned so much from Nigel's videos. Joke/humor focused vids or not. I'd appreciate pretty much anything from him at this point lol. Also, y'all need to hire editors so making videos doesn't give you a stroke to even think about lol.

I know it’s a lot of work for a small percentage of the viewer pop, but as chem major I love how detailed Nigel goes into explaining the reactions. I know it’s all part of the process but it sucks that it takes so much time and effort

to me, nigel's struggle is what every artist goes through. we pick up new mediums or try different forms of creation (not unlike longer form content vs. shorts etc.) and we go through a period of being enamored with the new one, almost just because it's different than the old one. and then, inevitably, we find gripes about the medium and either struggle through them, go back to an older form, or find something new. i think his opinions about all the different types of content aren't really as conflicting as he makes them seem, once you realize that you're allowed to dislike multiple things at once! it seems to me like he's experiencing a level of burnout and i hope he takes some time to find new inspiration and joy in creation again :o)

Allen looks likes he heard this same arguement 6 times over the past three days

I love the long videos way more than the shorts. The long ones never felt monotonous at all. Please keep making them, they were so amazing. It feels like watching a documentary.

I am a huge fan of Nigel's longer NileRed videos and fully appreciate that they have every major step of, e.g., a synthesis, if that's what's being done. Safer things I actually like to reproduce from the videos as a huge educator, and for things I'll never do I still appreciate the lack of smoke and mirrors and "here's one I made earlier" moments. Getting an appreciation of the labour, equipment and yield inefficiencies for the steps is part of the benefit of watching them, as well as the results. NileRed videos really hit a sweet spot at conveying what is really needed for a long project without unnecessary dithering and becoming unnecessarily long. Other chemistry channels that have covered similar projects have generally either spent way too long on rambling intros, shopping and equipment setup or just focused on the bangs and not shown nearly enough to understand how to do it. Some of NileRed are already possibly the best educational chemistry videos in existence, even compared to paid curriculum resources, and they could totally be sold as such to home educators or schools. Keep the formula and make them when you get sufficient inspiration. I personally would be really excited to see forays into biochemistry.

I know that I am in the minority, but as a huge science nerd, I prefer the long-form videos, but I understand the issues with trying to make something that massive.

So just to make sure I understand: You’re taking a break from making long format Nile Red videos, to figure out how to make them more efficiently, and to make it more enjoyable? But you’re still gonna make Nile Red shorts? I just wanna make sure I understand, genuinely. Whatever you wanna do, I enjoy watching your content, but I don’t want you to sacrifice your sanity or mental health. If you need to take a break, or you need to experiment to see what allows you to make your content in a way that is both healthy for you, but also satisfying for your process, then do what you need to do. I just hope you’re able to figure yourself out, and figure out how to work in a way that’s healthy, and I wish you the best.

Nigel's videos have inspired me to stay engaged learning about chemistry. Thank you for your work sir, you're a gem! Enjoy your break! PS: You guys are way too worried about making 'the perfect video'. I think a good challenge for all of you is to make the worst video you can. You can't make a bad one.

Perfect timing for the release as I got to work! Thanks guys. Love watching you

This Podcast has become one of my favorite podcasts. The last month or so I've watch alot of the videos you guys have made over the years, and the amount of crazy things you all have made really blows my mind. From Nigels Vinyl glove hot sauce to Will's FireCat training video, Allen's exoskeleton for his Anime Sword and Kevin 's hand held induction heater. Your videos really has helped me lifting my general mood from being pretty depressed to being inspired and able to see that things are getting better. You guys inspire me to be more creative, and with all the shit that's happening in the world, It's really a reminder for me that there still is positive things out there. (Currently working on DIY acustic treatment for my home studio using stuff I have laying around). The world is not all War, politics,religion, fake lifestyle vlogs and such. There's still people like you guys out there doing their best to inspire, educate and show us all that creating stuff is fun and that it's possible to make almost anything in your garage or backyard, if you just take the time and put down some work to understand the science behind it. I want to thank you guys for all the hours you spend on creating the content you make. I sincerely belive that your videos inspire kids into wanting to do something good with their life. Maybe They'll blow up some things along the way but we all know that blowing up things and accidentally being electrocuted is an important part of growing up. This comment got extremely long all of a sudden. All I wanted to say was keep up the good work and take the time to relax and recharge your creativity if needed. The world needs the type of content you guys make. I'm hoping to see a colab with all four of you. A huge project of some sort that stretches over several videos that involves elements of all the different things you guys do. A video with you guys trying Nigell's hot sauce and TP Moonshine would be great to. Ok, I think I'm done now. Have a nice weekend guys. Regards from Norway.

I’m majoring in chemistry right now so I really enjoy the details of you videos to think about interesting experiments and how they would be done but I would still enjoy your content regardless of how long, short or detailed it is.

In my opinion Nigel's videos should be shown in highschool, the way he shows how chemistry works is super engaging and visual

Just a note, I really liked it when you guys uploaded these like early in the morning I would halfway listen to it throughout the work day and then when I got off work actually sit down and listen to it in full so you got two views out of me that way

I'm a chemistry major on my way to becoming a BSc in Chem. Nile was my inspiration to do so. I rather like hearing his step-by-step process, it would be a real shame to lose that quality because Will here seems convinced that it doesn't matter.

Thank you guys for making this....i love the conversations and seeing that im not the only one thinking about this stuff as a creator.

Nigel needs an editor! He really understands his content/vision well, it just sounds like he's bogged down by the editing process itself.

"They say freedom isn't free but it was for us" is absolute gold

this should be called the ADHD podcast lmao. I'm always trying to find ways to make things interesting for myself in order to inspire motivation. it be a struggle sometimes

Will and Nigel are the youtubers that got me into makers. Wills sense of humor is the best. I hope they both can look past the negativity and make videos THEY love.

As a person with OCPD Nigel sounds very relatable

this is content therapy for nigel

I will add, I personally enjoy the meticulous step by step simply because I fell in love with chemistry during my first year as a mechanical engineering student. So, unlike a large majority of viewers, I tend to have a basic understanding of all the chemical processes happening.

Please for the love of god stop giving Nigel bad advice. His videos are great because it shows as much of the process as possible. Here's right that seeing him chop up the gloves or dissolve the toilet paper is the best part of the video, so definitely don't cut out those kinds of steps.

Yoooo look at the vascularity on Nigels arms! Damn boy

Please continue making full length videos @NileRed. I love them.

It's sad. I love his main channel, it's inspirational, even though I'm not a chemist. It just gives out that vibe of confidence, persistence and scientific approach, that gives me a bit of motivation to do something myself, be it writing code or grinding an achievement in video game. The shorts I just don't watch, this content type is not really interesting to me and is really bad for my already challenging ADHD. I would rather watch a two hour long 20-step synthesis, of which I would understand 20% at most, than a hundred of short videos like "did you know this cool reaction existed", which are easy to digest but ultimately pointless to me.

I have watched Nilered for years! And it's his presentation of the process and how he covers what he's doing that i appreciate. Nile's videos could be hours long and i would still watch them to learn. But do what you enjoy man. Those are the videos that shine, the projects that get you excited. You can hear it in your voice and the way you describe the process as compared to the ones you're not that into. But i personally think the length of the video is irrelevant because you make content for ppl who appreciate chemistry. Don't forget why you started doing it in the first place. Your talent is amazing!

i like the in-depth videos, with the most important steps in it

This looping nature of this convo makes me feel like I’m back in college. And it’s awesome.

Basically Nile Red like doing hard things because they are worthy.

I was honestly so sad to hear Nigel was quitting RU-vid. That was Mean William.

Will, thanks for talking about the decision paralysis.. it's definately something that I deal with but hadn't put much thought into it

I enjoy the long videos. I learn a lot from them.

My oldest kiddo and I love Nigel's long videos, sorry to here about the break, but understandable

Love the subtle ”That’s what she said”

Nigel is so fine idc 😭

I was listening on Spotify and wanted to say I actually do like the way Nile’s videos are done sure that “asmr” style is nice but I like reminding myself about any little bit of chemistry that he actually shows us

I like the detail in Nile's videos!

Has anyone else noticed these podcasts have gotten shorter? i miss the hour and a half long ones

dude i’m 1:43 minutes in and i’m ……. happy. this is such a great episode already. gosh, love to see y’all together man.

Lots of talk about shorts by Nigel, but he was the only one NOT WEARING SHORTS

i learned so much about chemistry from Nile's videos, seriously

The dishwasher idea that William describes sounds very interesting.

I love the long videos ngl

I have had a lot of conversations where I was in a similar position as Nigel about finding a personal solution to a problem. People see it as a very practical solution when they suggest an answer, and it generally is. The problem to me is just that I am looking for a solution that works for me and satisfies my expectations. That way I can proceed knowing I have a decided workflow that is personally satisfactory and will stay that way. I don’t know anything particularly about video editing, but I work with some other digital media stuff like music production and graphic arts. That production hell process has actually put me off of making any music whatsoever. I find it very depressing and anxiety inducing. I tried organizing my workflow, changing the process, and taking more healthy breaks. If anything, the distance has been more like a giveaway that I just do not enjoy making music at all or anything related to it. In fact, I see it as a threat to my mental health. I’ve started working on graphic arts stuff again instead and it is more enjoyable and not as stressful, I just sank so much energy, time, and money into music production because I had such a passion for it and now it is gone as far as I can tell. I know it is pretty pointless to put all this out there, but the whole struggle of content creation and what happens outside of the viewer/listener/whatever is very intimidating. Sometimes things all of you say here or there catch my attention because they remind me of things that I have experienced in my own way. Good podcast. 😁

God I know it's parasocial as hell but I love these podcasts, it feels just like hanging out listening to your friends talk about whatever

I like that he shows every step

Personally, even though I don't always understand every step Nigel walks us through i still feel like its valuable information. Maybe one day there will be a "limitless" pill that will allow me to use all the random knowledge I've accumulated from NileRed videos. 😂

Burnout is especially tough on youtubers because it usually starts as a passion project but when it becomes tedious and boring there is no one else to help and inspire you.

41:50 hey editor, you didn't think we'd see that huh

Great episode

Safety Third ABSOLUTELY needs #TechnologyConnections on the show. He would be perfect in the mix with y'all. Omg im happy just thinking how epic that show would be.

I loved the 1 hour video

why are people shitting on nigel for this? it's his channel, he's unmotivated and owes you people nothing

I've taken just enough chemistry to watch knowing how much is happening behind the scenes with the experiments in those little clips and that alone made me realize that these videos must be tedious and exhausting. On that end, I've had sympathy for Nigel for years. But I don't watch with a youtuber brain and realize how much editing goes into it, too.

Nigel needs an editor so bad. A good editor will copy your style and can work with you to make the shots you're visualising

Who decided on the upskirt camera?

Nigel could try to read some old textbooks and find procedures that are interesting to him and make some

For NileRed's videos, I think showing as much of the process as possible is what makes his channel such an awesome thing. Even if you don't understand it, it gives you room to learn about things you don't understand, even if it's only a little bit.