Why Does Tequila Make Me Take My Clothes Off? - Safety Third #18 

good drink 🍸🍸

The fact that the podcast starts with figuring out who's gonna be on the podcast.😂

Nigel: Ethanol is an antidote to Methanol... Chubbyemu: :) Nigel: So all you got to do is put the perfect amount of Methanol in your Ethanol... Chubbyemu: 😳

Bernard is finding out what happens before his patients present themselves to the ER.

Tricking people into hosting a podcast, now that is innovation

Petition for chubbyemu to become a podcast regular.

I hope to god chubbyemu becomes a regular guest, or just another host both are fine.

This podcast is the best. Dont ever change the way you guys do it. This "lets turn on the camera and go" format feels really personal and close. Feels like I'm in a call with friends. Thank you guys for one more episode! Im watching this one and already eager for the next one lol

Nigel: "Bodies are weird" WIlliam: "Speak for yourself" Nigel: "Your butt doesn't have a vomit reflex" WIlliam: "Speak for yourself!" Something is off here... I can't put my finger on it, but something is off.

You guys should actually play poker live or on the podcast sometime.

This podcast feels like a self help group for procrastinators.... Procrastinators Anonymous.

Bernard appearing in the dark, wide eyed and smiling, "I lured a man into my basement, This is what happened to his organs". These podcasts are wild man I love it.

People get in crazy car accidents and end up alive but if you fall from a standing position and hit your head just right... you done. Game over

Complementing Nigel's point about alcohols: some of them, like Rum, have a higher ester and aldehyde count for both flavour and aroma. These definitely result in different reactions in the body. Tannin in red wine also causes some people to get really bad stomach pains, from what I've heard.

People who only listen to these are really missing Bernard's enthusiastic non-verbal reactions to some of the things they are saying. 13:12 28:23 35:47 36:10 59:15 59:50

You know they are professionals when they have to trick their guests to join and forget to add their patreon link in the description. Love yall! You all make my week so much better.

Chubbyemu knows more about the podcast than William and Nigel

I love chubbyemu with Nile red on the podcast together. Such a good episode

This is such a special episode. I feel like a special viewer. Totally feel Chubbyemu on the recession thing. Graduated with a degree in Mechanical Engineering in '08 - after my internship ending in '09 I worked at a pizza joint and a bar until 2012 when I got back into engineering.

Also Bernard outed himself as an ex arena shooter (e.g. unreal tournament, quake 3 arena) nerd by referring to chunks of meat as 'gibs' lmao

Nigel is almost 30, I think? What age is he going to lose his adorable boyish face?

Professional science podcast. I love this thematic rollercoaster from serious scientific issues like the methanol poisoning mechanism, through the statement that there is no vomit reflex in the butt, to the question of how much drugs can be stuffed in the human body. I'm glad that there is a doctor watching over you.

It's insanely refreshing to hear other healthcare professionals, especially other specialities than mine (DPT, physical therapy ) speak up on the stranglehold that has been put on pain patients across America. It's insane, prescriptions for painkillers have been cut by up to 75% across the country (depending on how you calculate it, what you count, etc) yet opiate overdoses are up 300 to 700%. The thing is, the official opiate prescriber guidelines allow for much MUCH more leniency than pain management doctors are showing....so what the fuck is up with that? Well, there was a large push by lawmakers and the DEA to pressure doctors unofficially via extreme uses of their power and scare tactics. A huge wave of pill farms (doctors just obviously prescribing opiates to all patients no questions asked and possibly taking kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies) which is a good thing...but it continued once those were shut down. The DEA and regulatory bodies kept going and they started clapping doctors for small discrepancies, maybe 3 years ago you prescribed opiates to a patient that this regulatory body deems unwarranted...and suddenly your practice is gone, or your hit with charges...... Despite following the new guildines, pain doctors got essentially shaken down, and now everyone suffers. The patients literally suffer the most, but other specialties that rely in patients being able to function......also suffer. It's really hard to get an 80 year old cancer patient to maintain their physical therapy routine when they have their prescription for painkillers cut out completely in only a few week period......suddenly that patient suffers rapid decline of quality of life, and, even with a letter of request for medication sent by a doctor to the pain management doctor it doesn't matter.....

The issue with dealing with things with to many steps sounds like almost executive disfunction Nigel.

I have ADD and I can tell you that even absolutely needing to do something will not force me into doing that thing. I almost failed out of law school on multiple occasions because I would get home and just not work on my papers or studying. On my meds I can force myself to do things, but without them I will just do whatever pops into my head or catches my attention first.

"You just gotta mix the perfect ammount of methanol into ethanol..." Cuts to Bernard vigurously shaking his head

For the alcohol discussion. The reason for the worse hangovers in non-distilled alcoholic beverages is 1.) methanol that doesn't get distilled out like it does in distilled spirits. and 2.) tannic acids (this is especially the case for wines), leading to vasodialation which increases uptake and a drop in blood glucose levels (compounded by ethanol's own effect on releasing glucose). I would suspect that alcohol byproducts and remaining sugars in distilled spirits also affects the body differently and could (depending on body makeup and chemistry) affect individuals in different ways.

I don't think Bernard realizes how further than the scope of a typical doctor knows. He's absolutely top scientist in his knowledge which is awesome.

Nigels voice is so good. He could do audio books.

Hyperfocus is a common aspect of ADHD! Characterized by basically what you described, long periods of intense focus on one thing, usually with an aspect of blocking out everything else around you, sometimes even eating or drinking

A young man ate a year old chicken nugget that had been sitting in his car. This is how his organs shut down. "It's been sitting there for 12 months," he thought, "surely it's dried out and become inhospitable for bacteria," he thought.

You guys have summarized my entire adhd existence perfectly. I was diagnosed as a child (like 8) and each thing you say hits all off my check marks. The difference between neuron divergent people and normal people is the intensity of symptoms. And the negative connotation of medication is so frustrating! I really enjoyed this episode :) as well as all the others obvi 😂

I'm a software developer right. For the last 2 weeks, I've been meaning to work on a part of the code base which was producing a number that is no where close to what is expected of it. The problem is the logic is so complicated that it takes about 1k lines of code with no meaningful way of breaking it up into chunk. So I spent 2 weeks doing absolutely nothing on it, and waiting to jump on the next ticket that comes in. Yesterday I've finally brought myself to do it. A part of debugging it requires me to clear the database because any wrong existing data will throw the next run off, and I've been clearing the database manually. Then I spent the next 3 hours perfecting a script that clears the database automatically with 1 command. After I'm done with the script, I proceed to continue debugging the thing, and in just 10 minutes I found the bug which was just miss typing a - sign as + sign.

A lot of relatable dialogue here- especially the bits on prioritizing tasks and the guilt from neglecting one over another. Good show.

I did a thing just leaving is so freakin funny to me I can't even explain.

Yay, a Nigel episode. My simp heart is happy lmao moonshining is the hobby of many uncles and grandpas here in Poland 🇵🇱 it’s pretty common to use pure sugar and various yeast strains to make “spirytus” aka rectified spirits. flavors are added and it’s diluted after.

Love how excited Bernard is about valence shells

I would love me some Texas Hold'em

The absolute chaotic energy of the beginning is admirable.

its crazy bernard is talkin about printed VS screen words.. i just ran into that a few days ago.. wanted to read an old article how they did the physics simulations in Hitman; its an amazing read, but felt i was more "skimming" it than reading it.. printed the same PDF out on paper and was immediately like reading all the actual words and reconstructing the narrative in my head. i dunno if it was due to refresh rate, or maybe it takes more of a physical commitment to actually turn the page, or what.. but there is a difference.. printed word is just so much more "tangible" both in a literal sense but also in some inexplicable psychoactive sense, too.. never used an e-reader; i wonder if that solves the difference

Really appreciate you guys talking about mental health. That web domain timer knob is pure genius.

Best intro yet this podcast is legendary

I just realized that despite being Asian, the Canadian is the whitest person in the show... We need to find a way to get Nigel to play outside. QUICK! SOMEONE BREAK HIS FUME HOOD! Force him to do outside chemistry a-la Explosions&Fire

@William Osman your experience with not needing stimulants to help his adhd for everyday makes sense. Big busy shoots with a lot going on stimulate you enough that you dont need that extra kick. Doing paperwork doesn't stimulate your brain in the same way. Novelty seeking behavior is a cornerstone of my ADHD experience and I feel like I share it with like half of science RU-vid.

will literally describes adhd symptoms and responds positively to adhd medication will you have adhd

When my ADHD is really acting up, I can still have trouble reading a book I am really interested in, losing my place and thinking about what I just read and realize I read a few paragraphs that I didn't take inl

A frequent part of ADHD is called executive function disorder and sounds like what you are describing. It's not external. The other part you're talking about is hyper focus and is ALSO a part of ADHD. Talk to a therapist about getting a formal diagnosis.

Just started watching but the fact that this was recorded at new years makes me sad because that means Nigel isn't gonna be reacting to NileGreen.

The Safety Third Podcast, where mental health is number 1, and deadly methanol ingestation is 2

Funnily enough, I just started binging Chubbyemu last night out of a lingering curiosity from his previous appearance on this podcast.

I feel like using paper or e-ink is way superior to LCD or LED screen, maybe like Bernard said it's about the refresh rate but I also believe it have to do with the backlight shining directly toward your eyes

This is the best fucking podcast ever and I'm glad I haver the opportunity to pay 15 dollars a month to make it continue.

Both Will and Nigel have ADHD. These are the clearest cases I have ever seen

I am a type 1 diabetic, and over the years I've had ketoacidosis a multitude of times. The one thing I always notice first (besides feeling like death) is the strange acidic taste and smell I get in my mouth. Now I know that it was actually proteins turning into acetone!

The lighting and chair makes Bernard look like he's wearing a sith robe. He has joined the dark side😈😂

You guys just psychoanalized me. Thank you for validating all of my struggles in life. Its genuinely really reassuring to see that people who are so accomplished and smart also all struggle with the things that make me feel like I might just be lazy and unmotivated and stubborn. The things about feeling just.. released when the power goes out, or needing physical paper over studying off a screen, and preferring to be physically blocked from a distracting task rather than just behaving differently are all things that I've been thinking about and feeling for years and always thought that people might share one but never all of them for the same reasons. You guys rock.

Damn, are we gonna let Benard talk? Why is he even here?!

Yahhh finally nigel 😩😩🙌😝💖 Lmao every podcast Nigel's like -🧉🥤☕🍵🍶🍷🍸🥂🥛🫖🍹🍺🍻🍼🍾

I enjoyed the adhd bit. Nigel, the self regulation works and or can work from personal experience. I’m probably a decade older and always managed that way but learned recently the emotional trauma can really screw that up. Will kudos on the Twitter delete 👍, just did that for a second time. Thieve podcasts are great thanks for letting us listen in to the randomness 😁

Will talking about attention deficit is really close to my heart

Next Chubyemu video: "A RU-vidr ate an 8 month old chicken nugget, and this is what happened to his neurons" I would love to see an actual analysis/culture on the aerogel nugget tho. Maybe food safety labs and OSHA type places would have sets of tests already set up for checking for food pathogens and secondary toxins?

It's obvious that Nile does not have the same level of adhd. Will, I feel the exact way you feel. I run into the same issues. I am also an EE and was on adderall for a little while in college. Lists have helped me wrangle in my thoughts and focus. It was nice to hear someone else describe the exact way I feel.

Fun fact: in the 90s (afaik, it was given to me) it was legal to prescribe dexadine to children for adhd... This is the same amphetamine given to soldiers in Vietnam to keep them awake and alert for 24hr shifts. Psych drugs are weird like that.

CHUBBYEMU AND NIGEL LESSGOOO

yoo im so glad you got chubby again

I find that as soon as I watch youtube the day is gone, as long as I don't want any videos I can reset and start working again after a brief break. I feel terrible about not being able to stay focused for 8 hours straight so hearing about everyone having the same issues is very comforting.

Do you guys remember those glue dots toy that kids would make stuff with, those got recalled because the glue would be get converted into something similar to roofies

You guys should definitely get Cody's lab on the podcast!

13:16 My head started shaking exactly like ChubbyEmos, just... "nonono nonono... don't put methanol in ethanol"..

I love that no one has questioned WHY William has a 12-month old nugget in his car.

Actually during prohibition the US federal government would adulterate things with methanol and just allow it to be distributed, or some of the rum runners would add denatured alcohol to stretch their supply. There's very little danger of producing something with enough methanol to be dangerous by accident in home distillation, it basically doesn't happen unless you try to make vodka from wood. The methanol is as Bernard said mostly in the heads, which taste bad for all the other stuff that's also in there so it's discarded anyway, but even if you kept the heads in there is unlikely to be enough methanol in there with the hearts mixed in to hurt you. Drinking just the heads straight would potentially be bad... but you'd also spit it out for tasting terrible.

Tech Ingredients has a great video on rum that goings in depth on the production of alcohol. Yeast only makes ethanol, methanol, and CO2. It's the minerals and other microbes that interact with the alcohol that make the subtle changes in flavor: This is when it is still fermenting. During distillation they separate the liquid in to different containers while it is still coming over and then recombine parts into a product that is either drank as is or aged in wood causing it to leach tannins and flavor compounds giving it its color.

“Chelsea, can you to crank the p___hub dial to 2 minutes 47 seconds?! Thanks~”

I need to know how long I can keep a hotdog in my pocket!

Amphetamines basically just make it so you can keep up a motivation loop for something, because dopamine feedback is how motivation and volitional motion works. Since there's more dopamine available, it's easier for you to establish loops where you are giving yourself endogenous dopamine, and the added amount lets you pass a neurochemical line that makes you do the action and then produce more dopamine as a reward/result of completing the action. The issue is that it's not like the stuff makes you *smarter*, it just makes you more able to form a motivational loop around ANYTHING. So that could be real work, but it could also be playing video games or jerking off or any other random bullshit. Without guidance, amphetamines are pointless and honestly destructive. It's why I think it's bad to prescribe them to children copiously without any real advice on how to handle the drug experience. They just get wasted and end up seriously affecting brain development. I mean we have kids who are taking speed for decades starting at age 10 or even earlier. There is a 0% chance that doesn't seriously affect your internal dopamine system development, but nobody seems to care, I guess because it's a massive cash cow for big pharma. (source: studied neuroscience, self-professed drug nerd, and self-professed ex-drug-addict who tried em all)

'does anyone do the stupid shit we say' I made the decision to partake in the penny challenge after watching your last podcast ◉‿◉ It was a mistake.

Around 52:00 will talks about his struggles with adhd and I relate to it a lot. Just wanted to mention something my therapist has been working on with me and it’s finding ways to create that sense of urgency that propels you to work. Her example is with laundry. At least in my case, I leave my dirty laundry in the basket until I run out of clean clothes and am forced to do my laundry. What I’m trying to do is create that sense of urgency (not having any clothes) but through my own presence. Does that make sense? Hopefully it does and if not disregard hahahaha

i love how you gather all my favorite youtube content creators on this podcast, thanks for providing us so much fun and entertainment!

Big willy, take it from someone who has ADHD- you definitely have ADHD. So many of the experiences and struggles you have match up very strongly with mine.

Thanks for sharing the mental stuff you've been thinking about William! I've been learning about myself and how I have a similar issue to you. For me, I think it stems from my dad having undiagnosed severe ADD and I have a mild version from him. Reading a book called Driven to Distraction has helped me understand my dad and see how I have some of the properties. Being aware is the first step, I think therapy is the next.

36:30 I think one of the many crime dramas on tv has covered this type of thing already, but say a drug mule dies of an overdose in the process of carrying contraband across the border. A drug mule does not carry all of the contraband in one big baggie or vessel inside of them. They could be carrying upwards of a hundred or more little baggies of various drugs inside them on a single trip. So dying of an overdose because one or two baggies ruptured means that there could still be hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of contraband still inside their body, provided that traffickers can still get to the body before an autopsy is done.

NilesGreen needs more airtime.

Adderall is a bad example of ADD medication it will make unfocused people focussed even if you don’t have ADD, that’s why it was so common as a study aid for years. Hope your doctor started you on something other then adderall

"I didn't even try, I DID distill my own alcohol in high school" "aren't you kids a bit young to be distilling your own alcohol?" "yep" "alright"

Sorry for commenting late, but share this video with your psychiatrist or psychologist, William. One of the many symptoms of ADHD is being able to focus really well on one thing that you know you need to do, a little backwards, isn’t it? Your psychologist isn’t trying to pump you full of medications, they’re trying to help.

Yeah the best treatment for ADHD at the moment seems to be a combination of both therapy and medication. Maybe you need that chemical boost to help you but long term change comes through adapting your cognition and behaviour through therapy.

Me, who's possibly doing a dual degree in chemical engineering listening to Dr. Bernard: _chuckles_ I'm in danger

22:35 To paraphrase an exceedingly inebriated friend of mine: "What better way to not wake up with a hangover than to wake up still in party mode!"

I have ADD and I find I can lose hours doing something I like. I was medicated all through school so I could just get my shit done. Now I don't take stimulants because I work at a job that stimulates my mind and makes me work and doing something I enjoy. I could work for hours and suddenly it's 6 pm and time for dinner.

the episode we've all been waiting for, Bernard and Nigel. Did not disappoint

I have notifications turned off for apps that I don't need. I have notifications completely off for RU-vid, Reddit, Twitter, TikTok, and Facebook. those apps can't fight for my attention anymore, but I still use them, just on my own terms.

Finally, the nilered x chubbyemu we all wanted

@1:01:01 'What happened to the meat? I get it's MAGNETICALLY SEPARATED CHICKEN...' Is THIS why he works in a hospital all day???

I think it would be really interesting to see Will do a stream with Dr. K, his videos have helped me a lot with understanding my ADHD

I watch ChubbyEmu’s medical case studies and NileRed’s shorts. I have no idea who the third guy is.

I think printed versions add a spatial value that helps remember the things contained in them. That's something digital versions lack. To remember digital information I have things playing in the background. It is important that every thing you have playing is new and not in a loop.

would love to believe that simplifying access to electronics would help with ADHD (Executive Dysfunction specifically) but when I was young, up till about 13, we had One flip-phone and limited time on the family pc. And let me tell you,,,, there's always something that can distract and mess up your routine..

I love this so much I really hope you guys keep this relaxed style and GET MORE PEOPLE ON!!! Safety third forever.

Fuck. I just got sold on another podcast. Nilered. Osman. And the legend himself? ChubbyEmu!?

Considering some of the conversations, this ends up to be one of the most 'mental health positive' podcasts. These are the sorts of conversations that need to be normalised!