NINEBOT SEGWAY MAX VS XIAOMI M365 PRO VS TURBOWHEEL SWIFT | Electric Scooter Review 

this is the first proper scooter review i've seen on youtube. congrats.

I own a xiaomi pro and doing a commute from london to slough via vauxhall to paddington, train to slough then to a data centre then back is just about doable on one charge. But I must stress that it's best you have a charging point wherever you leave or park it, on it's last few bars it will slow down to 8mph. I've also learned the hard way of never challenging anything that looks to be higher than 10cm. Unlike bikes with bigger wheels you should not try to go on pavements with steps, I will always try to find the flat surface to slide in on or stop and bring the scooter on the pavement. I ate dirt when I tried to challenge it, you could also attempt a physical jump on the scooter but I'm sure you'll eventually break something. Note, watch out for potholes on cycling lanes if you're on the road. I travel on the early hours and late hours where it's dark and these potholes can cause a huge accident on a busy road, potentially life threatning. These are pretty common. Also it's incredibly difficult to do hand signals with a scooter since your right is occupied with acceleration, it's why it's almost a necessity to get an accessory to do this for you. There is no suspension on this thing, you will feel every gravel, twig and bug you crush... Also got stopped for the first time yesterday at hyde park by an officer, let me off with a warning. All in all, I'd say wait till it's legalised or get a bike (hell I'm eyeing a brompton more and more), if you travel a short distance in london then I could recommend it or any other city with good cycle lanes.

Tests a scooter whose speed is 25 kilometers per HOUR, rides it for just 35 kilometers, somehow manages to drag it for hours and hours out to the night. Makes sense.

I bought the Max and I love it precisely because of the minimal anxiety. Infinite range, large wheels, the tubeless tires are also self-healing (filled with sealant or some shit), there's no charging brick to carry around, the 25 km/h speed is great simply because I don't want to die (also when there's no option to, I don't always feel like I should be going faster), the headlight is not only the brightest but it's cone is also shaped so it doesn't blind people, the IP rating is even better for the core components (IPX7), charging time beats the Xiaomi Pro by 2 hours (and it charges more range while doing so), and because it's meant to be used by sharing companies it's basically indestructible. Edit: And also (like the Xiaomi) it wasn't designed by children, which I can't say about the Turbowheel.

You have sold me on the Swift, comfort and safety (braking) is important for me. However, I will wait until scooters are legal before I purchase one.

Love the reviews as always. I was stuck between the Swift and the Max for a while last year. Ultimately ended up with the Max because of how sturdy it was. I've got a onewheel for fun and electric bikes for speed. The scoot was always just for putting around. Now there's custom firmware flashers out there and it's quick, at the price of some of that range. I'm happy with my choice.

Great job Ben as always, keep up the good work, by far the best scooter reviewer!!!!

The world has been waiting for this Sr. Fox! 🙏🙏🙏

Hey man!! Long time. Happy new year's! Swift is on my radar for sure.

First of all I have to say you are the only RU-vidr I spend time ACTUALLY commenting and liking( and obviously subscribing), keep up the good work Ben! You are a great creator, I used to be a camera man myself so I know how much work you put into filming and editing. Now to the video! This one was clearly an upgrade comparedכ to the old scooter showdowns, a lot more detailed and that range test! my god! 30+ KM a day on a scooter, what a sacrifice! I feel like just like you've said, the ninebot was built to be a rental scooter rather than an owned one, and it looks like it's made at the same factory of the Xiaomi or something, they are too much a like. Waiting for your next one!

Ninebot Max🔥🔥🔥

I really appreciate the effort of making this video, cheers

Full tires have the drawbag of having way less comfort and less grip. Even if the swift has rear suspension, the max is more comfortable in everyday use.

As 110kg I run the standard m365 and it's fine. Not uphill, the slightest incline can see you do 5-8mph but it does go. Out of the ones I've tested I definitely like the small and lightness of the m365.

keep in mind the xiaomi u can replace anything mod and upgrade anything for a good price aswell

Straight to the point - loved it👍

After a couple of weeks of watching reviews for all kinds of scooter (I'm 5'10" 175 lbs and I plan to commute 11 miles each way from Queens to Manhattan) I choose the Segway MAX. The Horizon was a close 2nd. Deal breaker for me is that the MAX looks sturdier/built like a tank and low maintenance.

My trusted M365 does the job for me... Counting on you Ben to organise an e-scoot and e-wheel meet next summer😆

What's the reliability like with the swift though I think the xiaomi Pro seems to be most reliable and value for money and apparently will do the claimed range in eco mode I'm not sure which one to buy I keep thinking of the xiaomi Pro as it seems lighter so can be taken on buses etc

Your editing skills impress me !

Straight to the point, informative, and entertaining? Be still my beating heart!

Hi I am owner of m365pro and i did just bouth a max g30 I can say it is huge diffent in confort of them two. For me it is the length of the plate u stand on, their g30 is longer and more nice for me, next issue i got with m365 is when wind come at side u will gilde to over other side of the way if u runing max speed. that issue do you not have with max. when u driving down for hills the m365 feel it like tip u over and does not have nice feeling so you are force using the break for down hills allot, that issue do you not have with g30 u can using more speed in down hills without using the break to mush. also going up for hills the m365 is week on that, but max can clime alot better that m365. And you got more nice drive filling with max, I been using m365 for one year and max for 1 week now.

I love my ninebot max here in Auckland ! I can't compare it to the others but I'm absolutely loving it

Totally agree with you about the importance of suspension. But the solid back tire on the Swift concerns me when needing to ride on wet roads. Great review as always.

Excellent, hands-on, real world review. I especially appreciate your personal opinion on why you'd choose the pro over the max (the two I'm undecided between)

Ninebot max for me I'm in for the ride and battery life these scooters are not toys you can get hurt I love my ride

Hi, I bought a 12 mile old M365 pro 2 from a 15 stone guy who was disappointed with its hill climbing ability. I am 13 stone. I bought it for £335 and had a bargain. My main commute involves a tow path, dirt track, cycle path, B road path and a long steep hill back to my house. The round trip is only about 3 miles and I’m left with a healthy 65% battery at the end, so range doesn’t seem a problem. The hill at the end keeps me at a healthy 21 km per hour. But at the steepest parts of a hill it drops to 10-11 km per hour. Now I’ve seen the videos on RU-vid of the Ninebot max G30 with its 10” tubeless wheels and more importantly the 350 watt motor at the rear it got me thinking 🤔 do I buy it and sell my pro 2 for say £300. I saw your video (very informative, and well done on the range test 👍🏻). Having ridden both, do you think I’d be disappointed with the extra spends for the minor extra gains, or do you think the 350 watt motor will relieve the 10-11 km per hour bogging down. Confused ! I’d value your thoughts on it ? P.S am I likely to get a puncture on the Pro 2 now that they have better thicker tyres ?

I agree with your assessment. The MAX is sorely lacking in suspension and somewhat in power, so advantage: Turbowheel. But, I think the MAX will last longer. It seems to be very durable. It's designed to take abuse by the rental market. (Except that plastic bottom plate)

The thing with the G30 is that it's legal where I live (15mph top speed, less than 20kg), while the faster and more fun scooters aren't.

i got my ninebot max 2 weeks ago and the range is amazing, it is heavy, but ok for me. the top speed of 15mph is not to shabby, but i have unlocked it to 30km 18mph approx top speed using a es1 dash purchased from ebay and a pc. i am even more happy with the ninebot max. which is now my main way to work now. great review as always with your other videos. would like to see your review on the inokim light 2 and quick 3 at some point :)

Love the editing! Keep it up.

I agree with your favourite choice. I've upgraded my m365 to a Zero 8 (the turbowheel but with only one brake and red accents). It's fun, and have even once managed to go more than 38km in one charge. Would trade the hard rubber for a tubeless in a jiffy though.

I brought a refurbished 365 pro from pure scooters, £360 next day delivery and its like new love it. Might get the zero emissions set yet ;)

Awesome video so awesome I bought 2 Ninebots Max from Amazon and 2 zero emissions t-shirts from T-springs ...Can you tell me where I can get the zero emissions decals for my scooters? Thanks for your vids

What I got from this was verification that the Big Ben is STILL under construction. Good to know when not to go to London

Ninebot now has G30P Max Gen 2, and aftermarket suspension is available, also there is Hacked Firmware to unlock the Full 700watt motor, There is a Universal Model that is half unlocked from the box

just got the max first ride in sport shows 30km was there a update on newer scooters?

Thanks Ben for the range test LOL!

This is the best escooter review that I've seen, having watched air 50 of them already...

*So on the ninebot max you did 22.3 miles with 24% battery left? Or did you include the estimated 15.6km remaining in your final total of 22 miles?*

Im owner of xiaomi 365 pro, must have scooter. Cheap and good quality, if you have good roads you don't need suspension. I'm from Greece with really bad roads and i don't have problems, also to go home i have to ride about 2 kilometres of hill without problems, the average speed on hills is about 10-15 km/h.

Wow the range on the ninebot!!

Thank you for a good review. How does the Monorim suspension work on G30 and Pro2? Would it make them much bettetr to drive on a bumpy road?

Good video, but a little detail is wrong: the rear light cable on the Xiaomi Pro is protected by a little piece of metal ^^ found out when I took mine apart for cleaning and assembling the license plate holder

Yaaas, stats! Thanks boi

Great video. Ok so, if Xiaomi creates a new scooter exactly like the M365 Pro but with suspension, for let's say, 50€ more, they can really dominate the market.

Seems like the ninebot is a rebranded and slightly improved 365. I imagine a lot of companies are making xiaomi style scooters now

Anybuddy?... Which one is gud in long drive battery nine bot max or Xiomi 2pro.....? Mostly am driving in hill area

I like the Ninebot Max just fine, but as the owner of a Turbowheel Lightning I was pleased to see it's little baby brother the Swift do so well in comparison, winner winner! 😎

I can't find the M365 pro anywhere!?

Is there parts available for repairs? Or is it a throw away scooter?

That's right Ben, the Xiaomi Pro should of had the Ninebot Max's refined bell's & whistles, and its good that you provided feedback on those 10"inch pneumatic-tubeless tyres like how its more stable than the xiaomi pro's 8.5" inch tyres and its more puncture-resistant as well (totally agree on that one). Yes, the weight of the Ninebot Max is 4.5kg heavier than the Pro due the larger battery capacity & increase of dimension as well. I'm impressed that you tackled the range test in Sports mode, and I knew the range would last around 35km-40km. For my Xiaomi Pro I hacked the speed up to 22mph/35km/hr since 25km/hr felt slow for me since I live in a open environment where footpaths are wider & roads are even wider as well. Well, since you made this vid I'm not so sure whether to get the Ninebot Max unless I test one for myself. Oh by the way, Ninebot or Xiaomi may add suspension for their future E-scooters so keep an eye on them & the Ninebot T60 (Tri-wheel) next year!! Anyway, advance Merry Christmas to you Ben hehe! 🎄🎅👍🛴😁

Ben, this video was super well made!

Easy way to do the range tests Put the scooter on its back stick the lever so it's keeps going let it lay on the floor wheels spinning that way you can leave it at the house and calculated range from that

With custom FW you can do easily 32km/h on PRO. 28km/h on 20% of battery :). I also bought Janobike 2000W dual motor scooter, 1200Wh battery, 65km/h max speed for 850$. THAT is the best scooter :).

You're surpassing yourself on every one of these, dude! Loving your work! I'm still Team Zoom EX 🙂 HAVE AN EFFING LOVELY CHRISTMAS, BENJAMIN!

The best character has to be your… MOM! She's-a-so-a-proud! *pinches cheeks*

The Swift looks like a carbon copy of the Falcon Zero 8! Nice to see Carly in there, even if it was for only a nano second :)

hard to come by with reviews as good as this. Thanks!

With the ninebot max you can buy higher voltage packs/kits aswell as rear and front suspension and lots more

amazing editing skills, Congrats, nice video .

Too bad turbo wheels swift unavailable in Australia, and being it'll come in over $1000AUD import taxes will apply too

Hi Ben, what is the proper way to charge the Xiaomi m365 pro? Do you charge it with the display on or off?

Yes!!!! Finally!! I currently have the original 365 and looking to upgrade to one of these two. I was literally waiting for your review because deciding. I love your work. Thank you!

Looks like he scalped Robocop and is wearing it as a trophy

In the US, the Ninebot max is limited to 30 kph. Mine will pull 30 kph down to 1 bar of charge left. And when voltage starts to sag, it doesn't drop by 1 kph. It will be dropping like 5 kph and continue trending downwards.

Turbo Wheel is basically à Zero 8. That model got as much copies as the standard Xiaomi m365 does.

Biggest concerns is the battery lifetime, let's say they all last 500 empty to full charges. That would mean that the Max would last more then twice then the other two.

The pro for me, anything heavier and clunkier defeats the point of having a scooter. If you want fun, get a dualtron and have a smaller scooter for commuting. I have my 14kw ebike for fun and the pro for running errands.

I am not at all hunting for an E-scooter, but your vid has completely convinced me I might need one.

6:32 The cover is metal, just saying. Great video anyway.

Love ur vids

Hey, Ben met you at comic con in October, really nice guy great vids keep it up.

Isn't it bad that the Ninebot has a front wheel drum brake? Won't that cause accidents where you brake and the scooter flips forward?

is the fender on g30max scoter a little bit more on right side of the scoter or mine is damaged?

My Inokim OX got stolen in Sheffield, I used it for my main job of doing Uber Eats deliveries. Would you recommend the Ninebot Max as a commuter? Just something to keep me going?

Great video!!! One problem I have with the M365 Pro is the app, the instructions spell out the Mi Home as the official app but it doesn’t connect to the bluetooth of the scooter. Whats the other alternative for this so I can download the firmware?...I have an iPhone

Constructive criticism: 1- Never lift the unfolded scooter by the stem, way too much tension on the weakest part of the scooter, especially the Xiaomi, they are known for getting wobbly and noisy. 2- fix your riding stance, two feet together on the middle of the deck is very unsafe, always one foot in front of the other with the toes facing out a bit, and bend the knees a bit on bumpy roads to compensate for the lack of suspension. Your posture is why you got back pain. 3- should have mentioned custom firmware, they take 5 minutes to install and drastically improve the performance and speed of the Xiaomi and Ninebot without much compromise to the range, should be especially considered on the Ninebot with such long range

Which app are you using to see this things

Great review! Is there anyway to get the Turbowheel swift in the UK?

I got my ninebot max through indiegogo... tried it now to avoid commuting to avoid using public transport and and suspension is ... well non existent as you show, range is very long, wish they could have made it lighter with less range. Speed is an issue when going next to traffic, just downloaded a new firmware (not from the maker) to get 30+ km/ph which should make it much enjoyable. Using as much as the back roads as possible but it is getting me around which is great. Any news on weather the e-scooters will be legal in the UK ( I worry every time I see the authority on the road but so far no one has said anything). Great video … 👍

365 pro costs 400 euros, what do you expect for that price?

Does anyone know where you can buy the TURBOWHEEL SWIFT in the UK ?

The Ninebot Max can have 2 chargers plugged in to cut times in half. Also the Top speed is 18.6mph but I think its locked. There are ways around it. But I still prefer my Ninebot ES4 because of full suspension and 19-22mph top speed.

What is the best scooter which covers 3 points = 'affordable price' + better in rough roads + easy to carry to office daily = ????? - Plz advice...

I was wondering is there a electric scooter for riders that are over 6ft tall an 18 stone? Been thinking of a scooter for a journey of 12 mile round trip, an storage at home is limited so a scooter could be ideal. Any help would be great

Hey bud love watchin ur reviews I wanted to buy a scooter for online food deliveries can u suggest a good one for me to buy I stay in Swindon n roads are mostly flat n smooth

Hello , can you please tell me how the tires of the Ninebot max really work ? Do I ever have to change them after a puncture ? Or I just air fill them again ? Best regards from Portugal

Great comparison Ben👍🏼

This test is completely biaised. First of all, the Ninebot G30 Max isn't running at top speed. It can run up to 30 km/h for the "US Version". It is really easy to change the region with an Android app... It is totally official and supported as we don't flash the firmware, I will let you google for it. It is a lie saying that the Xiaomi Pro and the Ninebot are pretty similar. To have tested both of them, the brakes on the Ninebot are definitely better than the Xiaomis'. The Ninebot also has a better couple and performs better on small hills. Here we go for the cons of the Ninebot: - OK it feels clunky, it is damn heavy but man ! It feels just robust, unlike other "affordable" electric scooters and it has the best autonomy so far. On a "flat" ground, I ran out of juice after 40 km in sport mode (30 km/h) and I am quite heavy (90 kg). - You don't have suspensions, I totally agree on that point that it uncomfortable when you feel all vibrations running through your body. But that is something that you have to take into account when you are planning a trip and try to avoid as much as possible bumped or damaged roads. On the other hand, we have the Turbowheel Swift. OK it performs better than the Ninebot but seriously, are people really looking to compete in an electric scooter championship on the sidewalk or on a cycle path? I personally try to avoid roads, I don't feel comfortable with cars around me, there are always stupid people driving. As for the autonomy, I think that is a primordial criteria for electric scooters. Ninebot is winning on that point. Last point but not least, it may completely be a subjective criteria but the design is also very important to me ! I have to admit that chinese are doing a much better job that its occidental counterparts... It hate seeing all screws being visible, the Turbowheel Swift seems more like a prototype than a finished product. My 2 cents.

Still thinking whether to get the ninebot max g30 or the zero 9. Like the max design better but idk. Need some help here

Nice video, i love my boosted rev tho, as same size of the the max and a bit heavier, it’s Ipx7 et got dual and 39km/h, 1500W and amazing look and build quality’s. The cons is the rear mud guard not long enough for rain and the battery autonomy. Restreint to city use. I loved the xiaomi m365 tho despite the build quality, it worth every penny. Happy for the upgrade for the electric scooter fan’s. I miss the simplicity of these tho. Never forget the first electric scooter, give me 1000+ km with no problems

That settles it buying the daughter a nine bot max! Limited speed good range to get her where she needs to go n back!

@benfox what drone are you using while riding ninebot max

I'm in the US so my Max has a top speed of just over 18mph. Like your Max my top speed will drop to 17mph after one bar or so of battery loss. I'm okay with this as long as the scooter will maintain a speed of at least just over 15.5mph. I'm all about having jumbo range and always want more of it so it was definitely a major selling point for me with the Max. Yeah, suspension would be nice, but I've accepted the fact that the Xiaomi-like design of this scooter just doesn't lend itself to having it.

I got the max for the range. It's on Amazon for 650.00 this week. Hopefully I got a good a good deal.

Ben can I buy new battery xiaiomi pro and replace on xiaiomi models early 🙏thank you

Hi Ben, love your work mate. Was wondering if you could guide me a bit. Ive had a Zoom Stryder 3 years now, but after it got wet it now won't accelerate. Do you know if any spare are available still? You used to rave about them which was why I bought it. It's been a top scooter. I think they went bust in Singapore?? Thank you, Tony

I want to buy a scooter to use for commuting to leisure centre instead using car, but I've read it's illegal to use virtually anywhere! How do you get round this and how did you manage to get all over London without being fined? Cheers