NINTENDO SUES EMULATION TEAM - AND WINS 

Hey y’all - the video was posted with a title I didn’t approve of but I didn’t notice until now. TLDR; this was a settlement and not a lawsuit, and Yuzu paid Nintendo $2.4M as a result. While not a “win” legally, it’s a massive financial blow to their organization. The legality of emulators still remains a very contested topic especially when compared to ROMs.

False Title, Emulators are not illegal and Nintendo did not win any historic lawsuit.

Anyone else getting some weird audio on this vid?

Nintendo didn't win anything, they settled out of court but essentially bankrupted them.

Really love the blatantly false thumbnail! They settled out of court and no rulings were made about emulators legality

Dude, don't clickbait stuff like this. You probably scared a bunch of people for no reason.

The worst part is that the TOTK part was entirely fair to go after them for. Hopefully this doesn't get worse.

dawg the title scared me thought every emulator was illegal

Change the title, don't make me get a crab Juan

A brief reminder that a settlement does not create a binding legal precedent, and even if this case went to litigation, district court decisions don't either. tl;dr, this ordeal does not force courts to follow a similar decision regarding emulation in the future. This sucks, for sure, but it's not the death of emulation. Also, the Sony v. Connectix case only applies to the 9th Circuit (West Coast states, generally).

Summit the story: Is emluator legal? Should be. Is Yuzu right? No, they shouldn't involve money into this in the first place. Is Nintendo right? Legally, yes. Morally, no.

If this really is the death of emulation, Competitive Melee is going to suffer even more than it already is, and that’s truly a sad thing to see.

there be teasure 🏴‍☠️ i guess

A lot of people are missing the point entirely, Having a Patreon to fund an emulator for a console still on the market was a really bad idea. If you're gonna do this stuff, you do it for free! Nathaniel bandy himself mentioned that on Twitter when he noticed the situation

Although Yuzu is a Launcher, it **allows** the piracy of new products especially new games like ToK and Super Mario Wonder.

I tried Yuzu before, but my computer wasn't good enough to just download the xci file, so I didn't really use Yuzu.

I preordered Sonic Frontiers from a website and the game came to me like 3 or 4 days earlier, than its release. What did I do? I played it in silence and didn't spoil anything to anyone. This is what you do. Making ToTK work early and behind a paywall is way too much. This is definetly what got them into trouble and this qould not have happened, had they kept the "paywall" features to the emulator features, instead of actual game features. All in all it is a shame to see the best switch and 3ds emulators go, but can't say I am surprised when they fucked up this badly.

Yuzu not only willing to help leak the full release of a game, but also PUTTING IT BEHIND A PAYWALL!? I'd go after the ones leaking my games early too, especially if they were trying to make money off of it. Granted, I likely wouldn't go so far as to completely shut down everything, but I still (kinda) understand Nintendo's side of this. It's one thing to emulate already released games, but leaking an ENTIRE GAME to play early just doesn't feel right. This is just a case of an emulator team going too far by helping release potentially unfinished (at least, more unfinished than it already is) content early. Stick to what's already out there and you'll be fine. This ISN'T the death of emulation, just the death of an emulation team trying to get more money by doing illegal things. It's kinda funny that they said they didn't like illegal ROMs and stuff like that and proceed to do the very same thing TL;DR Yuzu did an illegal thing (helping leak illegal ROM before release date) and is suffering the consequences of doing it. As long as no other emulators follow suit, we're fine Edit: Missed the part where he said they HELPED the leaking and not doing it all by themselves, content of comment fixed

As long as dolphin isn’t touched, we good

Oh that's neat.. Anyways here I am with every copy of Every Gamecube, N64, SNES, and NES game on my Emulator. I'm not paying 40 Bucks each for games that came out 25 years ago.

Yuzu was brought too early in my opinion. Emulators will inevitably bring piracy, that's a given. My personal views on debating whether or not emulation is a good idea is when the console is discontinued (and for modern consoles, when online has shut down). If they were putting features behind a paywall then yeah of course legal action should be taken, because they're profiting off an IP that isn't theirs and are actively profiting off Nintendo's (and other companies') hard work and labor. Putting money to keep a project going isn't new, but putting essential features like it's a damn mobile game isn't cool.

Insanity what is happening right now. It‘s not only YuZu (Switch), it‘s also Citra (3DS) which is not anymore produced, neither are the games. It sucks so hard. Have 3 3DS Consoles, every game I played physical bought but still used Citra for the purpose of recording or playing it in a higher res than 144p. Now, most of it is gone.

As long as dolphin and slippi live to fight another day

well, i'm lucky i got retroarch when i did, innit.

To help those who dont under business law. This case created something known as common law. This means cases that display similar characteristics can site this case and resolution as a point of reference. Heavily favoring the prosecutors aka any big gaming company that wants to.

Dunno if it's only me, but it sounds like hbox voice goes through a different mic at random times through the video

You gotta change this title. They paid a settlement $24m settlement nothing happen in court. They did get bullied out of production

For me Hbox, i grew up with Project64 and OoT and Mario 64 on school PCs. i did end up legally owning both in some way eventually (especially M64 with Wii VC, Wii U VC, and Mario 3D All Stars) But man, emulators have let people like me experience old games i miss due to being of a later generation of kids and also not having much money growing up.

We still have Ryujinx though.

When you leak switch games early and have a patreon to monetize it, expect to get your cheeks clapped…

I truly believe the paid content via patreon is the final straw that broke the Yuzu camel back. They gave Nintendo the ultimate means to win this case. Hands down it was the discovery of their patreon. 😢😢😢😢

The one promp that I'll give to emulators like "my boy" for GBA is that there are some games like mother 3 that we could never experience with out the emulation sistem.

there might be something wrong with ur mic.. sounds weird at times

Nintendo has to be Nintendo after all, couldn't say I didn't expect this at some point..

If Nintendo doesn't want people stealing their stuff, they should at least give people the option of purchasing it legally. If piracy is the only available method of getting the games they want, then that's what people will have to resort to.

What does this mean for slippi

The audio is all over the place in this video

Juan, I get the need to get stuff out quickly but please hire an editor that knows how to export clean audio 🙏🏻

Bro why you still got christmas stuff up

I originally read the title as emu’s are now illegal

What's so funny about this for me is that, the other day, I spent ( I counted ) 3 hours and 34 mins trying to find a ttyd rom for Dolphin. So seeing this pop up is hilarious timing.

Very impressive Nintendo I hope they didn't leave the fucking source code rofl

I wonder what the legality would be if someone who had no connection to Yuzu/Citra had pre-existing source code and continued to use that to improve the emulators?

Is this guy ever gonna fix his audio issue with the mic?

I never used Yuzu since I already owned a switch but it's surprising to see the emulation for it is very good compared to older generation of consoles.

Can I still use it if I have it on my computer still?

Hey thats linklights video using ryujinx i think

so can I still play on the thing?

NO WAY! I haven’t watched it yet, but I’m sure I’ll have this reaction at some point.

Dude I’m cooked if it was actually illegal

It’s sad to see em go

That was a quick title and thumbnail change!

Me thinks ryujinx gonna get the BOOM before the end of the month

Well, at least the 2DS/3DS is surprisingly easy to hack.

Nintendo didn't "win" exactly. Yuzu simply agreed to settle out of court. Nothing was actually decided in court so no ruling exists which overturns the Sony vs Connectix ruling. Emulation remains legal because no court has (yet) ruled otherwise. That said I understand why Yuzu caved. When Nintendo defeated Team Xecutor in court they used the argument that the primary purpose was piracy and used that to hold them liable. If Yuzu tried to fight this in court and lost it really would be the end of emulators. Note that they didn't only take down Yuzu. They took down all source code files from every site that they manage. Of course, backups exist elsewhere and people are going to make clone projects from them.

ya that was sorta click bait, i was steaming. but that makes sense why they got shut down, very informative.

Me sitting here sweating bullets with my phone GBA emulator and ROMs of the battle network series: Oh eff off Box Man XD

And this was the day that fun died

This can't be true, emulators are never gonna be illegal!

I just found out about yuzu a few weeks ago and jt was super fun but now its all over so unfair😢

Sega Genesis does what Nintendon't, such a classic reference

Yuzu only settled to avoid going bankrupt. Forks will keep us alive.

I don't think that the yuzu team themselves leaked totk in full, but yeah locking support for it behind a paywall was really, really dumb. Oh well, maybe Ryujinx will catch up with the ridiculously good performance that yuzu had. Rip Citra and the future of 3ds emulation for now. Don't delete your exe files yet until we get something else that's as good.

If people want emulation to stick around, don't use it to steal. I don't know what people expect.

Thanks you for killing Game Preservation once again, Nintendo

Well with that last piece I kinda see why it happened. Whether or not this was settled in court or out of court, if they were paywalling anything it's kinda a massive nail in the coffin. Let alone releasing any kind of fix/mod/hack to a game if it's not heavily covered under fair use. It's one thing to release a patch to an existing game to make it a whole new game, look at romhacks for instance. It's not the original game and typically is creative enough to fall under fair use. So long as you are not releasing it with the base game file, and are not selling it you are likely scott-free. But if you release the original file, are not creative in your patch, or try to sell it you might as well shoot yourself in the foot. Sucks we are losing the best emulator around, but I am sure someone will pick up the slack soon enough, reverse engineer the YUZU code and make some new look-a-like, hopefully they won't try anything that is clearly crossing a line, but this screams not an issue for emulation, just a reiteration of don't be stupid.

If yuzu was leaking stuff as it came out and putting it behind a paywall then yeah this is very valid for nintendo to do. I just hope it doesnt start a precedent for others who are not doing that.

here is a thing which i think it doesn't make sense i think what nintendo should had done which Yuzu didn't leak tears of the kingdom first it was actually the devs of ryujinx since they were responsable for it since i hope nintendo go after them next since they were the one who show how to get tears of the kingdom first instead of yuzu they could gone after ryujinx

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

Skyrocketing price is bc of bubbles, and no one knowing what the difference is between a collector's items and a trinket; tchotchke. Not all of these games retain collector's value. Many want to price them as such, despite condition and wear; potential value. Of course, there are exceptions and rare items that still retain value, even after going through the mud of one's childhood. At the end of the day, those single items preserved in pristine condition are the ones with true value. Those trinkets with less value, only gain value when part of a full collection; that collection having invested time and not happenstance.

Nintendo should come up with a Nintendo program that allows to play switch games on a PC

Ah I see CT Chia still at it with the clickbait thumbnails :^)

Now i see what the main cause is...nintendo will exploit all hole/mistakes the yuzu team made, and wider the impact to all yuzu related things/product...in this case citra... I think emulator still can develop, the developer just need to strictly close all the hole/part that can potentially exploited/sued by the big guy like nintendo....it's hard and tricky, but still possible to see further devwlopment of emulator in the future...just make sure before some group of people try to make emulator, they need to understand all the legal aspect...

Just so you know, the audio on this video is really whack with headpones.

We love big N

Dolphin better watch it's step

This title is so bad and irks me so much I actually unfollowed. They settled out of court which means that no legal precedent has been made against emulators they are still legal as long as they and the people using them follow certain guidelines.

NO THEY AINT. Thats only Nintendo Yuzu

Nintendo didn’t ban emulators but they did make it so future emulation groups will not want to move forward knowing Nintendo can bankrupt them anytime they want

so we lying now ?

Bruh… your audio is all messed up. It’s like you recorded your vocal audio from two different mics and layered them on top of each other but on keeps cutting in and out.

Shit like this needs to go to the Supreme Court that way it can set a precedent in the U.S

Nintendo:if we are not making money you can't play it

HBox exaggerating again for clicks. I miss when this channel was about comp Smash.

WHAT?

LMAO Linklight video used and cube guy promo ez

Fake news is spread because of misleading, clickbaity titles like this Edit: the title has been updated

Was the title changed back, or was it just changed to a similarly bad one? This video is just a mess

I just hope that there are ways without needing to bypass their security. At what point does it become abandonware and they stop enforcing such a strict grip? After one generation? I am sure Nintendo wants to go after everything if they could, but i dont think they can.

It was always ilegal bruh people just got away with it lol

christmas stuff still up lol

seems like hungrybots voice module is malfunctioning, he should get his software updated

this video title might be your worst ever

Ai written script?

Rip steam deck and rog ally users with yuzu

Nintendo just be doing stuff like this averagely atp.

No one hates video games and gamers more than Nintendo. Please keep boycotting them if you care about video games!

NO NOT A NINTENDO W ANYTHING BUT THAT

WHAT

Love how peeps is complaining about Nintendo like that’s going to stop people from buying and playing their shit.