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The innovation on battery replace/maintenance make NIO the most starring one in all EVs

Fantastic concept , what is the cost of a battery change ?

@@karlmartyn9316 For those of us who ordered the car before March 1, there are 6 times / 600kw battery swap for free every month. If the car is ordered now, there are 2 free awap every month. Then pay 10 euros for the swap and 0.20 euros kW.

Indeed. There are Model S with dead batteries already. Battery replacement sets you back 20k - which makes a dead Tesla worthless. A 10 year old NIO with BAAS will still have its value since the battery can be swapped any time. Never out of warranty.

CCP tracking you.

You should check out the NIO lineup then. My fav is the NIO ET7.

@@zhe8586 wow stunning car I’ve just had a look. Different to anything I’ve seen on the roads. If it’s not too much out of budget it would be on shortlist

@@joshhancill7273 If you want a cheaper one, go for Nio ET5 :)

For 26K USDs you can buy a very good ev sedan in China (I repeat very good).

Somesay, the best product Tesla ever made was its stock(before Elon Musk started selling)

The battery is also the most expansive component in an EV. If by choosing the battery swap plan the car is cheaper, I think it could help push EVs in a big way.

Battery replacement is the future I think, I have a ES6 in China and the battery swap is nice because I don’t want to feel bad when it eventually needs to be replaced. Also it’s nice to go from 10% to 95% in like 4 mins with the swap stations

Elon Musk passed the battery replacement/recycling costs onto his Tesla customers for a financially-motivated reason. I Twitter you not!

Wow.. did you get it?

@@kks319 jepp 😎 been with me 36 days and driven 6000km already. Business class to drive. When the long range battery comes out, the car will be more the perfect. Only negative is the front bushes are a little weak on bumpe roads because it’s a big car, and brakes could be a little bigger. But all in all great car. And I drive a lot. Ps not taxi driver😂😂

@@XRP-all-to-the-maxwhat was the wait time in total?

@@sudarsankunde4862 to buy, about three weeks. The setup I wanted was in stock so I grabbed it.

I live in Chicago, last nov. I bought an ID4, but that was a substitute for ES8, after realizing Nio may never come to the US... sigh! I am so envious of you!

Intellectually harmonizing the sovereignty of Adonai and the responsibility of man is impossible humanly, but perfectly resolved in the infinite mind of Adonai The Fear of the Lord is a state of mind in which one's attitudes, will, feelings, deeds, and goals are exchanged for Adonais.

Chinese industry spionage in EU and the US and the fact that China is a dictature that wouldn´t mind if Russia invaded Europe is forgotten. Westeners are soo easily decieved in the lust for consumtion and cheap thrills.

israel did this before more then 10 years no success either the concept. all the battery change places are standing close

welcome to zeekr001

have you gotten ur ET7 yet?

ES6 OWENER， waiting for ET5 for my wife

Waiting for et7 in the UK

When will Italia get this. I'm just so tired of the same cars I see here day in and day out. BMW, Mercedes, fiat, alfa. Good cars but u want this amazing car.

Agreed, many corporations have"rent seeking" business model to ensure continuous revenue stream with the intention of screwing customers.

agreed - Hammond is a waste of space, Clarkson & May amusing but too extreme and tangential to automotive journalism VBH & Plato...charming and relevant :)

@@davidstuart4915 nah, top gear better.

Nah, top gear better.

"Stunning" is an over the top description.

@@Alan_GA well I've had a crush on her for the last 20 years... she'll always be stunning to me 🥰

In China, a pure electric car can run 500 kilometers, only 20,404.54 - 24,550.60 US dollars. So BYD sells crazy, not to mention BYD hybrid cars, which consume 3-4L of fuel per 100 kilometers, which is a little more expensive than pure electric cars.

Do you seriously think the U.S. (who effectively arrested the CEO of a Chinese 5G company IN CANADA) would ever allow Chinese penetration of their EV market?

Hongqi E-HS9 👍

Why do you think Tesla can cut their prices over and over again, too much profits in there.

Real-life Tesla Battery info shows that after 150k miles, the battery capacity is at 90% of the original capacity.

There are no worries about battery depreciation so not sure what your point is…..

well you can leave the battery in and charge with a cable then. but the option is always there for a battery swap as battery tech improves

@@wrutherfordx3x 10% degradation & more worry than any NIO owner would incur. ✅

Also as the battery technology will advance in the future you'll get automatic upgrades because they'll just keep making better batteries compatible to the old cars.

It’s on sale in some European countries. Too bad we can only envy in US, the politics won’t allow us to buy one here.

It was tried before by Renault and it never really worked; building the stations is incredibly expensive, so you would be driving an extra fifty miles to get to the swap station and you get no guarantee that you're not swapping your 100% capacity battery for a 75% capacity one. When a rapid charge only takes fifteen minutes (during which you can go for a cup of tea and a wee) there's not enough benefit.

@@littlebluepanda394 Actually I changed my mind, from "it is a gimmick" to it is ok.. In Shenzhen are now over 30 charging stations, then you go over 1000km with only swapping batteries. That means you can use the full range. And not only charging from 5%-80%. I am going to make a 1000km test-drive, when the lockdowns and restrictions are over.

@@littlebluepanda394 rapid charging is 30-50 minutes don't try to fool people 😅 winter kills charge rate, or anything below +5C really.

@@_TrueDesire_ What would I know, I've only driven EVs for the last six years, eh? Yes, if you want to go from zero to 80% then you're looking at 20-30 minutes, but when was the last time that you ran your car down to zero? A normal rapid stop for me is as long as it takes to get a cup of tea and go for a whizz and when I come back I'm at 75% - 85% and I'm on my way. Also winter has no real effect on charge rate in most EVs because they have battery conditioning (Nissan's Leaf is the big exception there). You've never even driven an EV, have you?

@@littlebluepanda394 I've driven/leased Leaf 2019, old Ioniq, Kona, i3 2017 and i3S all took around 40 minutes going from around ~10--80%. Those 15 minutes belong solely to the 800V cars and Teslas when they are very low. edit: even my 2022 i3S when it's around 3C outside like it was today can take 5-7 minutes before ramping up. just last week it took 45 minutes going from 8% to 85% (it's pretty much at 93% the i3S drops with its tiny battery).

ET5 will be better

@@gadgetgasspoll2923 Whatever Nio does will be very welcome

@@gadgetgasspoll2923 我也非常的喜欢et5

@@gadgetgasspoll2923 U will see zeekr001

Shipment of ET7 is on its way to Europe from China right now ;)

The CEO is a pragmatic visionary.

I will be second. Just hope it will be soon.

then you will be the first to realize that this is an out of date, blind alley concept - do you seriously expect several billion dollars worth of complex automated stations and stockpile of batteries to magically suddenly materialize???

@@davidstuart4915 Remember, you can always charge it. I am sure NIO can put a few exchange stations in California and NY.

@@wsurfer2147 indeed..and yes....a few..

The Nomi assistant is a paid optional feature. According to NIO, you don't have to wait at all for batteries to be charged. There are a total of 13 batteries inside the Gen 2 swap station, and the full charge takes less than one hour. If there are less than 13 people in front of you, then you will have a full battery no doubt. If there are more than 13 people in line, then the battery swapped out from the first guy's car will be charged in full when it's your turn. You can check how many people are in line for battery swaps before you head to the station.

My friend Chinese products . They have from cheaper and expensive depending how you want to spend the money 😆

But they are Chinese. Purchase a Chinese car, and you, whether you like it or not, are supporting the China government (CCP). China is not a country we should be supporting. The Uighur Muslims are a great example, but just the tip of the evil iceberg.

@@KCL2021 So agree!

This car was around 4 years already in China, and without needing change any tech and trim,

Only in your dreams. As much as I love NIO, the company will not enter North America or let's put it this way... North America will not let them enter in the market.

couldn’t of said it better. ! Love NIO

@@niosanfrancisco Let's go !! NIO 🚀🚀

@@ronaldchan3401 NIO are already in the US. Their vehicle systems are developed in San Jose, California. Design happens in Munich and when they launch in North America, it is most certainly with locally produced vehicles. US is one of the 25 new markets planned by 2025.

I wanna know when NIO can be available in US

ikr. It literally cuts upwards of 40 minutes of charging in a station.

Batteries swaping will be from the past when you will charge 80% of you battery in 10-15 mn. Also making swapping station infrastructure is veeery expensive, and won´t be possible at scale.

@Mr. ENERGY Tesla has never monopolized electric vehicles in China. In recent months, the sales volume of BYD brand is several times that of Tesla. The production and sales of electric vehicles in China exceed the sum of all other countries in the world.

This interior isn't as near as good as a Model S or X interior try again.

@@freddybell8328 bro, are you American? 😄

@@freddybell8328 that is hilarious. you must think a burger taste better than a proper stake. tesla is the poor men's upscale car. it has nothing to do with luxury.

@@qilu2004 He is just typical American.

If it ever sells, most likely not going to have a swapping option.

it's a game changer for us not having access to over night/after work charging.

The interior is soooo damn classy and elegance!

NIO IS A 100% chinese company ! CHINA IS A FASCIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME !

supposedly by 2025

Doubt the current US gov't will allow a Chinese company sell their product, even if it creates jobs in US. This stupid political and economic war is causing everyday people from enjoying the finer things in life.

you got the point!

In China, a pure electric car can run 500 kilometers, the cheapest one only 20,404.54 - 24,550.60 US dollars. How much money you spend on your Polestar 2 ?

Mmmm, if they are only trickle charged, then how long before the battery is ready for refitting in a vehicle? How many fully charged batteries are on-hand at a station for swapping? How many batteries can be swapped per hour in a sustained cycle. More detailed information missing from this video.

@@David-bl1bt its called ‘do your own research?’

@@Analytical_Visionary .... the very reason that I watch these RU-vid channels.... to learn, however many are devoid of information that their viewers seek in favor of egotistical flaunting. Such as this video, which gave very little pertinent information about the subject matter.

They’re already all over China...

Over 8mil NIO battery swaps!! Is that large scale enough for you? Actually it is over 10m swaps.. Is that large scale enough for you?

You're right, it's very cool! It's going to be exciting to see how this deploys large scale over the rest of the world

@@ThePhosophorus All over? What even in rural areas? At night?

@@kb9072 At night is no problem, they have lights ✅ & they can put them up at any of their partners Shell gas stations

That's correct it's a lease service. The initial price of the car is much lower as you don't buy the battery and you then pay a monthly subscription, price depending on what type of battery you want (range, speed etc).

Leasing or owning the battery are both options.. Leasing the battery lowers the initial cost of the vehicle by $10k USD, & the lease agreement is $150/mo for the 75kwh pack.... All NIO owners are entitled to 6 free swaps per month, & NIO maintains the batteries & have already phased out 2 packs.. the 84kwh & 70kwh packs are already being phased out & the 75, 100, & later this year the 150kwh pack will be available..

Regarding the battery swap, from what understand, you either choose to buy the battery with the car (~$10k extra), or you buy the car without the battery (~$10k less) then subscribe to Nio's battery swap package and pays ~$150/month.

Was originally Tesla's idea & they tested one station back in 2014 I believe in California in an affluent area.. Tesla dropped it & NIO went with it.. Much better in high density areas like big cities in China where having a charger in their high rise parking stall isn't an option.. Also NIO supports regular charging, fast charging, power truck option, as well as swapping.. Seems that they have all of their bases covered, like no other EV company!!

Its known as BAAS (Battery as a service). There are close to a 1000 NIO battery swap stations in China today with over 7 million battery swaps completed in China to date. So no its not a idea its a reality and in use today.

Namely NIO and Xpeng. Their little interactive A.I is excellent in Chinese in their home market. Faster response than anything I've seen before. Though when converted to English, it's a bit slower.

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ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_nqOseVjxl0.html this is probably the fastest reacting A.I I've seen in a car. How real is it in the real world I do not know. This is Xpeng.

It will be banned like Huawei due to national security concern. LOL

I spotted one on 680 yesterday. ;-)

Have you seen the ET7?

es7 will be more better！！and i fking need this in Canada

1. Yes, you can still charge the car in a charging station. 2. About 1 hour. 3. You can swap it back, if anything wrong with battery, the station can detect it and notify NIO to take it out. The system is very advanced. 4. You get 4-6 free swaps and you pay electricity cost plus service charge. Ask a NIO fellow for detail, it varies based on where you are. 5. At this moment, there is always an attendant on site to help with questions, in the future you might have to call NIO if anything breakdown.

how about water safety? battery pack that is swappable is not as tightly sealed as non-swappable ones? similar to smartphone that dont allow u to swap its battery but allow u to dip it in the water. does neo have a detailed report on water safety? thanks

Mark my words it will not be. To explain why, just do a thought experiment about how this actual works in the real world. How many swap stations you need, how many vehicles can be swapped at a time, how many spare packs you need etc. It might take 5 mins, but if there's a queue of 3 cars then that's actually 20 mins, at which point you might as well have just charged normally. New EVs can add a lot of range in just 15 mins charging from say 10% or less SoC, with time that's likely to improve further and make battery swap even less viable

@@patmanrick I think you missed a key detail. They still offer normal EV charging. While some people will use the swap stations (say for trips) other's can use the EV charging stations. And plus, with a little bit of software tweaking, you can do mobile queues. Check in on the way, first in line when you get there. Or it can tell you what time to show up given the current queue. All it takes is a little cooperation and a little software.

@@jessefloyd4835 mobile queue still doesn't work for the same reason that physical queues don't. You get a queue because there is insufficient bandwidth to service vehicles that need servicing, that doesn't change if people use an app. The thing with the swap stations is that they're expensive and so you can't have many, so it's not practical to be given a slot to use them (becase if you're on a long journey you can't easily just adjust your arrival time because you can't speed up much and slowing down just negates the speed advantage of the swap. The exception is if you use them in a city because you can't charge at home. But if that is the case, then you only need to charge once a week anyway and sitting at a fast charger for 40 mins and watching Netflix or whatever once a week probably isn't a massive issue for most people, vs driving further to use a swap station. Its not hard to imagine that on average a swap station would be 10 minutes drive further than a fast charger, because having the same number would be prohibitively expensive, so then you're negating 20 mins of benefit immediately. And it's so expensive. You need to have loads of packs just sitting around in addition to those in cars. There's already a commodity shortage and supply chain constraints in cell manufacturing, it's just not economical to start making extra packs that won't sit in vehicles. Yes, it's a good option for consumers, yes people can also charge normally, but it's highly unlikely to become widely adopted IMO