An update of the original NKG fight, I've uploaded some time ago. ! NOT a Goodseeker version ! A startegy design around Nail Arts. Original video is here: • NKG cheese fight (Pre ...
Some folks seem to be having trouble with the whole "keep Nail Art prepared; move and jump\dash nigh-simultaneously" thing. I have grown used to it with the following keybind config (not suggesting you adopt it, but perhaps it would help out): Movement - arrows Jump - Spacebar Nail - S Dash - A Quick Cast - Right Ctrl -- Super Dash - D Dream Nail - W Focus - Right Shift Inventory - Num 0 Map - Tab
its just like Megaman X games, maybe they haven't played games with similar mechanics before. nice vid, this is also how I beat NKG, mine is just a little bit messy and aggressive lol
I really felt that this strat broke the flow of the battle a tad too much (e.g. frantic dance with barely any time for respite). But in retrospec, I think you are right.
@@ZeNewk Is there any reason to not attack during firebats? You literally never get hit as long as you have sharp shadow and you can get off a great slash and a hit.
@@gu3z185 there are several unexploited opportunities to do extra damage if you're confident in your skills or practised the boss many times, but my plan was to showcase a more safe way to get through this fight, hence the limited player movement to reliable tell where the Grimm would spawn next (in case of firebats should you get get caught in center of arena the boss could attack from either side, especially in Pantheon's more spacious arena).
you should, imho, try and get some soul so you can abyss shriek when hes doing fire pillars by just barely edging forward with each pillar. you can downward pogo off of the dash to get a tiny bit of soul, and just save. youre still able to stand still to do this, just time it well and youre fine
This is just the nail arts build. It’s honestly underrated, because with only the nail arts charm (that uses only 1 notch) you can do similar amount of dmg as fragile strength plus quick blade (6 notches)
Holy shit thank you so much for this. I finally beat him after watching this. Made a few modifications tho. Lifeblood core gives essentially the same number of extra hits as Joni's Blessing for one less charm notch, allowing me to swap soul catcher for unbreakable strength. I found the double great slash during his fire pillars tricky to pull off without getting hit, so I would just hit him with one and then sharp shadow thru him. Also, during his firebats you can close the gap, jump over the first low bat, dash thru the second high bat, and get a great slash and sometimes one regular hit in. One critique about the video itself; the text often wasn't on the screen long enough to read so I often had to pause the video to read your notes. But other than that THANK YOU SO MUCH.
oh yeah, the timing on captions turned out rather crappy. And yes, your're right about Joni's vs Core, though I'm not sure on Strenght: it does not affect Nail Arts nor Sharp Shadow damage, so if you opt in for those attacks only, you might as well chose some magic boosting or whatnot. Regardless, gg and was happy to help!
@@ZeNewk yeah I realized that after the fact. But I still got an occasional normal lick in after a great slash during his firebats, so at least it wasn't COMPLETELY useless
it's cool seeing all the different playstyles here on YT. personally I beat him with dashmaster and sharpshadow, it makes your dash maybe 1/4 longer and does some serious damage. When he does lightning, you can hit from the bottom -> jump hit from the side -> Dash through him, and if you're fast enough get another hit from the side. For every other attack Grimm does, I just used sharp shadow and one or two nail strikes. The fight felt short but also took a few hours of repetitively dieing. (without dashmaster and sharp shadow you CANT dash through his trail of fire)
I want you to know something, this was the best NKG guide I've seen, I used it, and it finally worked (after some tweaks, I took UB heart instead of soul catcher). I dont like videos often but you fucking earned it!
Personally, I believe each person needs to experiment and try things and end up with the best strategy that's for them. The guides out there including this one do help, but in almost all cases, something is not for "each player". For example I can't stand spells and nail arts I just fail hard at them, beyond imagination. But above all everyone in this fight must learn to dodge the attacks. What helped me most is to experiment learning "only" to dodge with as max life as possible, I used all 3 charms that give life including but not limited to joni's blessing. This helped me survive more in beginning and thus learn the enemy attacks faster with slower deaths. I used to lose in 5-10 seconds tops (no comment). It took more than 20-30 tries but once I was able to reliably pass the 2nd puffer phase with my low damage (zero charms for damage after all), I figured it was time to switch to a normal setup with more dps. I utilized the hiveblood charm for my healing needs and it worked amazingly well because at that point you are good enough to not be hit constantly every few seconds so its a win win. Hiveblood + sharp shadow (amazing extra damage once you learn how to time it on the enemy dash uppercut attack especially), and unbreakable strength (obvious damage reasons). This is what did it for me. It did not take a lot of tries with hiveblood. It felt from beginning that it's doable. I would like to note that with this strategy I never even used spells apart of an odd heal during his stagger phase. Healing was not really needed hiveblood took care of it thankfully. This is actually a super hard boss to try to heal. I have no idea how people are so good to be able to time even their heals in such an intense fight where every split second can mean loss of 2 life, but for me this was 100% impossible. Yes I am very bad with spells and this includes attack spells, I have to say spells in this game are simply not for me. I wish I could use them better, but it seems like I am simply a nail guy. (lol) Granted, its not like I never tried to use them, I am just so bad at them that all that animation messes up my eye and hand coordination and I always end up doing crap losing life after casting almost anything (yes in most hard bosses that much is true). Unfortunately I don't use nail arts either, its simply too hard for my controls, again messes me up. I would also like to note that for me, the hardest enemy attack to dodge but also get a hit in, was by far the diagonal dash attack. Super fast, doesn't leave room for any error, the fire trail left behind is beyond annoying and in the end the only way I was able to avoid it was just jump or dash away fast enough and then jump and dash in the opposite direction. Under no circumstances was I able to throw a hit in during this phase except very rare cases where I ended up just by luck pogoing on standing grimm before he disappeared. This doesnt always work and can easily be self-hit instead. But who cares I just beat this, and I never thought I could do it! After doing this, hopefully Radiance and the 3rd pantheon at least become also beatable. :D My next goals. ^^
The best strat I've found so far is: weaversong+grubsong for consistent dmg and soul dreamshield for blocking fire bats and consistent dmg mark of pride/unbreakable strength/quick focus
This is literally the strategy I needed for NKG, I already pretty much knew how to avoid the flames-coming-from-floor attack _”Or wall of flames as I call it”_ and his dive attack, and dodge his pufferfish form attack with no problem _”Since it’s simply Troupe Master Grimm but faster”_ and all what I had trouble with was the uppercut and bats... especially the bats, those were tedious, but this video taught how to dodge them with no problem, now I’m certain that I’m going to destroy NKG, just with enough tries
When I could somehow 1 attempt grimm on my very first time fighting him, I instantly said: *all hell awaits in my nightmares* (Because well, dream nailing him) I couldn't blame myself because i literally asked for NKG Tbh, I just tried spamming sharp shadow, I had shape of unn so i could heal during the fire bats attack, I never used spells besides healing, and I can somehow get to around 75%
I used the positioning technique shown in this video and it helped me avoid damage once I got the hang of it. I play on the Switch version so jumping and using the nail arts was next to impossible. Instead I used a pure nail, unbreakable strength, hive blood, and A LOT of practice. It took me like five or six hours over a period of two weeks to finally beat him.
This isn't a cheese strat lol. Also, you will end this fight twice as fast if you abyss shriek him instead of turning around to get the second hit during his flame pillars. Also, if you jump during his fire bats move, hang in the air for a split second, and dash into him, you can hit him twice with good timing and take no damage.
you could also just hit him with a wraiths spell when you know the fire pillers arnt gonna reach you but if they will just run jump and use a fire ball at grimm
Oh, that is unfortunate. Either your keybinds are configured in a certain way or your keyboard has a limit on maximum buttons pressed at once. If it's the latter here is my keyboard config (yeah, learning new config suck..) - Arrows - Movement; S - Nail; A - Dash; Spacebar - Jump; Right Control - Quick Cast; (D - Super Charge; W - Dream Nail; Right Shift - Focus). Also think you can forgo the whole 'keep nail art ready' thing and only charge it when you see pillars preparing
I used a mouse for this scenario. My controls are A left D right Space jump C focus Lclick attack(hold for nail art) Rclick dash Lshift crystal heart Q dream nail E inventory Tab map
@@yoshi6445 im on switch too. i guess just the way i prefer to hold the controllers kinda fucks with how my fingers have to press buttons? ive never been too good at pressing multiple buttons that are in the same general area at once so it might just be a me problem
I personally played a whole lot more aggressive for example when he does that drill thing I would dash jump pogo him then dash away to avoid his fire trail and during the fire bats I would dash towards him and get around three hits. Charms I used were sharp shadow, shaman stone, unbreakable strength and quick slash
Thank you it worked for me! So helpful! I greatslashed on the bats and I graetslashed then sharp ahadowed through nkg on the pillars. It’s a little safer and easier.
I applied some of the strats like always having a nail art ready and the charm build but I adapted to play differently. For example, I found it a little risky to do to slashes when the laser wall attack was going on, so I did one and sharp shadowed thru him on the last fire wall. For the bats, you can actually jump between in and get 1 great slash and another normal hit if your lucky. Also, as well as sharp shadowing thru grimm when he does the upper cut move, if you have ur nail art charged (which you should have charged through the whole fight), you can dash away from him instead of dashing thru him and great slash him. Finally, from my experience, I usually got hit if I had an art charged when he does the phase change pufferfish attack because there's a chance you could slash instead of jump. The main areas I got hit were the fireballs after the uppercut move, and when I tried to go for a second slash when the firewall move was present. Overall its a more aggressive way to fight nkg but it pays off and is pretty simple after some practice
Found a great way to do this with nail arts. Fire bat attack If he spawns close, dash close to him and get a great slash and then dash back before the attack begins. Then jump over the first bat, dash over the second and get a dash slash in. If he spawns far, just do the second step. Uppercut attack If he is close to you, dash towards him and get a dash slash, then dash back and get a great slash in before he can jump up. If he spawns far, just focus on dodging or getting the 2nd hit in. When he comes down, double jump over him, and do a dash slash or great slash. The increased range will be enough to hit him most of the time. Fire pillar Only stop to hit him once the small flame particle has spawned and is not under you. This makes sure you won’t get hit in the time it takes to to the great slash. Then wall jump off a wall and go in for a dash slash. Big balloon boy attack Just Dodge. Cloak spikes Double jumping gives an extra half second or so of time to move around. It may not seem like much, but it is literally a world of difference. Stagger tips I was using Joni’s blessing so focusing wasn’t an option. Instead, I’d go for an abyssal shriek or a nail art. Charms I’m really bad at dodging, so I was using Joni’s Blessing, Lifeblood heart, Nailmaster’s glory, Grimmchild, and dream wielder. Summary If you want to use nail arts, get every hit that you can in. Overall, very fun boss. Once you get past the salt, it’s a nice experience.
@@Choco_The_Doggo Yeah, I did. It's been so long, so I don't have any specific tips, but I was able to defeat him after trying over and over. Eventually, you become familiar with his moves and you get a little closer to beating him with every attempt. Just don't give up!
@@kingbrad6482 thanks for the very kind message telling me to stop playing hard games because of my skill levels that i want to improve, *king's brand*
Regarding Hiveblood, it offers no extra hits and, unless I'm mistaken, the current regen process resets should you get hit again with the regen itself being slow. With that said I don't think you'd get a lot of mileage out of this charm in the NKG fight. Joni's charm's here because it used to provide the most health per notch than any other health charms combo, though it may no longer be true in current patch. Basically equip the best health-boosting charm you have (once you get the hang of it, you won't need the boosted health altogether).
Yet another click bait video claiming that it is a cheese, this is definitely not a cheese it is a guide/tutorial. Either you don't understand what cheese means or you are lying to get more views.
Honestly I beat him 2nd try after not playing hollow knight for two years and just stomped him by putting on dash master, sharp shadow, quickslash, longnail, and if you have space, a lifeblood charm