NKP 765 Barking Through the Alleghenies-Chasing the Horseshoe Curve Special! 

Yeah, some of us are old enough to remember. Though most all steamers had been converted to fuel oil or diesel as the heat source they were "steamiest" none the less. Whistles are much better sounding then the horns of today. I live 50 yards of the A G & R track leading to the exchange yard with CSX and on to Pensacola

Só sei linguagem portuguesa,mas ; acabaram com as estradas de ferro no Brasil, os trens que tem só leva soja para os portos, e anda mais devagar que as Marias fumaça de 1865

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In October 2013, the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society conducted an excursion round trip from Fort Wayne to Lafayette Indiana with NKP 765. It followed the old route of the Wabash Cannonball, now a busy Norfolk Southern road. There was no diesel helper - a tribute to the confidence that NS had for the restoration, maintenance, and operation of the locomotive.

Thank you very much!

@@87STEELE 19:42 I love it when the diesels give a horn salute while trailing on a steam excursion

I too, remember them in regular service. The one detail I miss is the Mars Light

xrisku Chase scenes starting at 18:39 is also quite nice.

Thank you very much! I really appreciate that!

lot of thanks for posting he beautiful video on the RU-vid watching the steam locomotive running so wonderful and thrilling experience the emanating smoke from the engine looking so beautiful leaving a white trail over the train to the back and eliminating into the air so lovely to see thanks bye

sometimes clouds of smoke rising so high to the sky bye

Nnjb. Bbnhhhbbbbn.

That's the preserved equipment line for the for the Altoona Railroader's Memorial Museum. Basically all the stuff that doesn't fit in the museum's roundhouse/turntable.

Reason the modem diesel is for electrical generation for the coaches and getting up the grades

@@jamesharrison6201 I can understand the need for one, but not two. As far as I know of, ES44ACs aren't equipped with HEP for passenger service. When NS had steam excursions in the 90s, their was a converted baggage car with a diesel generator inside that provided the HEP.

The Horseshoe curve rails are owned by NS, but NKP, conrail and PRR Were on it's lines, Next is SP.

Just Search "SP 4449 TS2017" and that doubleheader will show up. No helper diesels needed.

John Moore it's steam coming out of the smokestack. The reason is that's where the cylinders exhaust as it provides more draft for the firebox. The fire has to travel from the very back of the boiler to the very front through tubes in the boiler and any help it can get is appreciated. Also the steam that's "bleeding" out of the engine is being used to run a mini turbine for the train lights and compressor for the air.

i still cant get why people are clueless enough to think that the diesel did the work even tho YOU CAN HEAR 765 CHUGGING

Nope. This was a one time deal. However, they hope to get some other excursion going in PA with 765 in 2015, possibly Allentown or Philadelphia.

No

Stuart Fox the steam locomotives do not have dynamic braking so the diesels are there to provide that as well as in case NKP 765 were to break down...NS is a very busy class 1 RR and has lots of train traffic, so if this steam excursion were to block the main it could have very bad problems for any freight traffic.....

Thanks for the info.

Diesel assist is used in mountainous terrain, more for dynamic braking than anything else, but a backup in case of a mechanical breakdown. However, when 765 runs in most of Ohio, and certainly when she runs between Ft Wayne (where she lives--New Haven IN actually) to Lafayette (where I live), it's mostly gently rolling country, so no diesel loco's are added to the consist

+Art Anderson In late August 2012, after having been towed cold to St Louis due to our dangerous drought conditions that summer, 765 made her return trip to Ft Wayne, pulling a pretty long string of loaded centerflow hoppers full of soybeans east. She did that run all by her lonesome, no diesels needed to apply.

Stuart Fox The diesels are mainly used to provide electricity for the passenger coaches. Steam locomotives have dynamic braking . The engineer uses the reverser valve, and applies steam. Some rail lines require the diesels as backup, in case the steam locomotives breaks down. They need to keep the main line tracks open for regular traffic.

Samuel Aufmuth then why not use a couple of " F6/F7B" units? would look alot better in my opinion. the modern take away from the look and feel of day gone by.

Samuel Aufmuth- I can understand that, but two backups or helpers!

Samuel Aufmuth well actually the electrical is contained in the passanger cars themselves I was told at the openhouse last year at the home of the 765, the main one issue I brought up was the horseshoe runs was why she had soo many diesles helping, they said she could not pull the run herself, it would have taken too long, and horseshoe is on an upward grade, also on the new river runs they had her hold the record for amount of cars in its heyday, but they had more cars then what her breakes were designed for in passenger cars, with those you have to be gentler on the throttle and they are just a differant beast then running highspeed freight like she used to do, you cant jar people around, and the breakes on an old loco takes more wear and tare then a diesle that can use dynamic breaking also one of the reasons they have them, I would love to see more steam excursions myself especialy out of fort wayne but they just dont do them often last year the cannonball route sold out in 2 hours, i wanted to go on it soo bad, this year they have not mentioned anything about it yet, if they do one at all, its a surprise at all with the timetables the modern rail roades run that they let passenger runs though there at all, I cant count how many trains go though town and the backroad here each day, and it seems to be getting more and more the last few months, and with a neighbor just starting on as a csx conductor he said they just ordered many new engines to make up for the expected increase in new freight hauling, though I still begrudge that csx wont let any steam on their lines at all and throw a fit whenever they try to run a train over their rails the story goes, and that is one of the reasons that the new river runs no longer have a steamer on the front, though I think 1218 if restored or 611 would do a fine job if they ever change their mind as well as 765. I would love to see them restore one of the alleganies and or one of the big blow turbines myself for excursion service, they are putting a bigboy back to running order afterall, and planning to build a prr T1 from scratch though that could take 30 years at the rate they are going if it ever gets done. but the last 2 years has been a good time in the news of steam locos and their restorations.

manga12 Technically, with a slightly shorter consist, 765 is perfectly capable of taking on HSC by herself. On the 2012 Employee Specials, the crew cut the power from the EMD unit and took the grade on 765's power alone. Hardest they worked her since the rebuild and they had her down to about 5 mph. She basically repeated the feat NPK 759 had done in 1970 under Ross Rowland, minus the bets that were placed. 759 was funnier imo, becuause it was like she was taunting 1361 for just sitting there. And the New River...CSX should recall the time when 614 was the only power available in that one winter in the 80s because it was so cold the fuel oil gelled up. 100 car loaded coal trains solo at 55? No problem. Also looking forward to NS brining 611 to Altoona at some point. The Js were tested on PRR rails, and the likelihood of me seeing 611 come here is probably higher than...well, you know. I still wanna smack someone for using 'shop space' as an excuse when the boiler is apparently just short of a Form 4.

Timothy Pavlic II oh I am sure they both will storm the hills again, 611 is in N&S territory, just a matter of time, and fitting it in, 611 should be ready I hear by years end and running next excursion season if not sooner. as for the part well you know, I am not quite sure how to take that are you talking about the 765 not being as likely to be back before 611 or are you saying before a certain warm place ices over, or are you saying in referance to csx letting steam back on its lines? or something else entirely just so I have a clear referance you are saying, and as for the power of steam, they have larger weight and run better then diesels at mainline speed, and do so well because that is how they were set up to run most efficently as well as the larger driver wheels which effect the power better I would say just like larger gearing to smaller gears, size makes a differance often, and as for the 80's I dont know the story please tell me, though I know on the UP they will sometimes have the steamers carry freight if its on the way to the the place they are going and have done some for show and photo ops in years past, though the challenger class is down for its boilerwork and is third priority to 4014 and so forth they said at the video of the tour of the up steamshop in chyanne, when asked about it. but 765 herself pulled 100 car trains alone no help in her running days on the Nickle Plate, though I was told they only had half the capacity back then, that is still a lot of weight 50 modern day rail cars alone is a fair size train, stopping it though would be a bit on her old brakes but she could start and pull I am sure, and as for dynamic brakes I was told back then they would use the locomotive brakes to help and then the second set of brakes to the train lol, as for steam there are some advantages it has over ac power units, for raw power and running at speed, as well as they tell me cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter I was told by Mr Bill Byers at the shop in New Haven Indiana where they keep the NPK 765.

They use the diesels to supply electric power to the passenger cars and also for dynamic braking on long grades. Also as helpers on steep grades.

why not its a heritage unit anyway, so it would still acceptable

+kieron cousins It's for braking power and HEP.

Os meninos meus colegas nos anos 50 no interior do Brasil, passava sabão nas linhas , e ficava no mato vendo a Maria fumaça patinar.

@@dorivalevangelista5981 no get out Brazilian

Aaron Rowland 765 is a 2-8-4 Berkshire and 587 is a 2-8-2 Mikado

Nope American steam locomotives for the win. We made the most beautiful and powerful steam locomotives.

i dont think so.... U saw the Br. 50 or Br. 52? soooo beatiful...and the sound is better too.

***** NKP 765 is prettier and much better sounding. SP 4449 takes things much higher, The Br 50 and Br 52 look cobbled together.

+Captain Kerpa I dunno, have you ever seen Norfolk & Western's 611 J? Now that's a beautiful locomotive!

i live in germany so....No....

haha, didn't know this hobby was a test. hard to take criticism from someone who has no videos of their own...circumstances don't always allow for your Godly standards to be accomplished...please comment again later and try again for someone who cares

Jared Steele Perhaps you will learn a little. Funny that I am able to step across the track and video from the sunny side. Yes, I follow the locomotive and show it approaching and going away. Notice that most of your video is passenger cars rolling by? Boring. (Or is this really a video of passenger cars?)

Robert Gift Sir. Perhaps you didn't know that you aren't paying for this. I do agree that you should give out tips but don't criticize this guy. He is just doing this for fun. Mr, Steele is very good at video and like I said, it's important to give tips for better video, but you don't have to be mean about it.

Jared Steele Jared you videos are great, don't listen to the haters

Cullen Tabaczynski says:"you videos are great" Yes - if this is a video about passenger cars. Pointing out improvements is "hate"? Laughable.