NMD VS Dave Winchester WiFly 2.0 Bodyboard Review - Kook Shed Episode 13

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Review of the Versus Winny WiFly 2 bodyboard with Trinity Concave. Covers sizing, materials, features ...and is it good for DK?
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@sanpedroez3367 3 года назад

Stoked I came across your channel and love that you review everything. Keep it up

@kookshed 3 года назад

hey mate, thanks and glad you're digging the vids. yeah i try to have something for everyone to enjoy. cheers and all the best! -KS

@stewartwebb1428 3 года назад

this is great video and super helpful in navigating a pretty unique new shape. thanks lege

@kookshed 3 года назад

hey mate, thanks for the positive feedback! really stoked that it was helpful to you and glad you dropped in. cheers -KS

@garthjohnson88 3 года назад

Nice review KS, and greetings from San Francisco. I have this board (43") and I agree with your comments. In solid surf, the board gets to speed very quickly (especially in clean conditions), which is apparent as you drop in and set up for a scoop or trim. Possibly to do with the special underside configuration. The board's stiffness feels just fine in cooler/cold water. And even though the template is slightly biased towards prone riding (with the wide point further north, emphasizing prone maneuverability), the additional flotation at the tail end due to its unique shape gives lift (and hence mores speed) as you drive down the line. It also doesn't make spinning any harder. To boot you can lodge your knee in the V of the tail when duckdiving. I am also not overly keen on deck grooving, but in this case, the palm recesses actually help me shove the nose when tipping over the ledge. The side thumb bars come up a little high (if my elbow touches the board it actually sits at the very top portion of the recess, but it never seems to be an issue). The board is legit and highly recommended... now if I could just shred 1/3 as well as Winny!

@kookshed 3 года назад

hi mate, very cool to hear from riders around the world ! awesome feedback and good to hear you are developing a beneficial relationship with the board. yes it has its' quirks but i reckon you'll agree that the payoffs are worth it ! and ha yes if only we could all shred like Winny. All the best from Oz- KS

@ChristopherDillman 4 года назад

The midnight blue slick is 🔥

@kookshed 4 года назад

yeah mate for sure, it's a nice looking sled!

@kolbyf3352 4 года назад

Hey mate , great review this helped a lot. I've been looking for videos on the WiFly tails and all I could find was pro's shredding about 10 ft + and wanted to know this thing wouldn't just kook it in anything under 6ft . 🤙

@kookshed 4 года назад

no worries mate, glad it helped. yeah the 2.0 tail points have been moved closer to rails for better release and water flow along concaves and PFS beams. may take some getting used to and maybe some adjustments when riding but overall very fast and manoeuvrable. yes 3-6ft+ will be fine, especially if hollow/powerful. enjoy -KS

@tobypayne5458 3 года назад

Hey KS, sweet review. Just a quick one. I’m 6’1 and roughly 85kg’s, What size would you recommend? I’m thinking 43”?

@kookshed 3 года назад

hey mate, no worries. i'm 6'2"/80kg and use the 42.5". i reckon if you mainly ride smaller/weaker waves go the bigger size (but remember the sizing adds 0.5 inches because of the tail so it'd be a 43.5" board), but if you mainly use it for bigger more powerful waves go the smaller 42.5" one. newer versions have been released since this vid so double check the sizes of the newer models, there might be a 43" available now. hope this helps in some way! cheers -KS

@juliovaldes2974 2 года назад

Thanks!!

@reddysteddy2195 5 месяцев назад

Hey mate how would you compare it to a bat tail for releasing in spins etc? Does it sit kind of in the middle when comparing to crescent tail and bat tail when it comes to releasing? Or does it release better/worse than both? I'm looking to add to my quiver a board that's loose and fun in 2-3ft (Aussie) and usually go with a bat tail for those smaller waves, but I'm interested to see if the Wi-Fly is worth considering instead.

@kookshed 5 месяцев назад

good question mate. i rode a bat tail again recently and gotta say they do spin excellently, but honestly the Wifly tails have no problems releasing/spinning at all, even in the pocket etc, you would think by looking at them they might hold too much etc, but no, i think the other design elements might offset this. keep in mind this board seems to go best in waves over 3ft with more power, so you might still need to bust out the bat tail for smaller days. hope this helps -KS

@reddysteddy2195 5 месяцев назад

@@kookshed that's a great help thanks mate. I think I'll look at a bat tail again next spring, but for now as we're heading into autumn and bigger swells (🤞🏻) I'll stick with the crescents.

@glleboy2233 3 года назад

Looking for a good board rn so many different brand don’t really know wich one to pick. I usually ride 2-5 foot waves sometimes 6. Any tips on what I should be looking for ?

@kookshed 3 года назад

mainly depends on your height/weight, the water temp/wave type where you ride most and whether you ride prone, dropknee, or both. a little more info from you and can point you in the right direction, but in the end it's down to personal preference as well -KS

@glleboy2233 3 года назад

KookShed KookShed KookShed thanks for the quick answer. I’m 5’6 155 pounds. I’ve been riding for years now with some shitty CBC foam board. I ride in Long Island water temp during summer is ab 74 degrees, during winter it drops extremely low to 41-50 degrees( I’ve never surfed in the winter but would like to). I’m just now taking it a bit more serious and getting a board, wetsuit and some fins. I wanna be able to cut a lot in waves, do tricks, etc. I’m pretty aggressive when I ride and I love to feel mobile and fast(if that makes any sense). The waves I typically ride range depend on the surf but usually are 2-5 for waves but they dont barrel very nicely only on certain days you will have really good smooth 4 footers that barrel nicely. Some of the riders I aspire to ride similar to is Andre Botha and Jeff Hubbard. While I while never be as good as them I like that style.

@kookshed 3 года назад

@@glleboy2233 no worries mate. you could try a standard 1.9 Polypro (PP) core board with stringer/mesh for most of the year, but if surfing in really cold water a Polyethylene (PE) or D12 core would have better flex. i always recommend a Surlyn bottom slick skin, but if on a budget a HDPE slick will get you by until you really want to upgrade. Channel bottom will help you in most waves as well. As for shape/template, maybe go for a prone shape- wider nose, pulled in tail and the widest point right where your elbow/s would sit on the board when riding. i recommend a 41.5 inch board to start, based on your height/weight but some prefer bigger/smaller. About an inch above or below belly button should work. Hubboards make a few Jeff Hubbard boards to pick from, the Science Style Loaded is a great all-round board too, and an NMD VS Ben Player model might be worth a look for you as well. Hope this helps! let us know how you go. cheers -KS

@charlieosborn4359 5 месяцев назад

does this board come in a 44, or 44.5

@MC_Mookie 3 года назад

Hey KS, great review mate, really enjoying your channel🤙 VS WiFly looks sweet. Pretty Fly for a White Ride 🤣 Could I get your advice on a few things please?🙏 You mentioned you work or use to work at a surf shop? I’ve been basically out of the water for nearly 15yrs due to an auto immune illness but currently working on a return to the sport. Having 35yrs of wave riding experience and not being able to surf was a hard pill to swallow (I physically couldn’t stand up on my surfboard and bodyboarding reeked havoc with my spine and joints). During my time out of the water, l totally lost touch with all the bodyboarding industry technology updates, and now feel quite lost trying to navigate through all the jargon. I’m building a new quiver for a return to the salt (2 boards, maybe a 3rd later on) and looking at purchasing a stiffer, faster ‘down the line’ type bodyboard purely for barrel riding (and maybe air or two later when my body is stronger). I’m torn and confused on which type of board core, and size of said board core I should use for my part of the world (leaning towards 42.5” in a PP ISS or NRG ISS). I’m currently waiting on a new 2017/18 model VS Winch NRG+ ISS 43” which will probably do the job just dandy, but as I lose more body weight, I’m gunna need a shorter ride for the bigger days with push. I’ll then use the VS 43”for those medium/small wave days to help with float. I have set a goal weight of 88kgs by the end of summer, with an ultimate weight of about 80kg thereafter, (mid next year) so I’m thinking a 42.5” sized board would be my best bet at the moment float wise. Then maybe a 42” board if I can make weight down the track. I’m 5’9”and currently weigh 95kg, hence the VS NRG 43” for the float. I surf the SW Victorian coast in a cold to cooler water temperature range of approx 11*-18* degree Celsius, but would like the option of an Ulladulla /mid coast warmer waters surf trip at some point (15*-24* degree Celsius) (This is why I like the ISS options). I’ll be riding this new board in the warmer end of the Victorian water temp range, in small to midsized reef/point break waves in the 2’-8’ range, and fast 4’-6’ punchy hollow beach break waves (Plus surf trip cooler/warm water) No Luna Park for me just yet🤪 That joint is off the chain. Anyhow my questions are if I may :- *Thinking a 42.5” board is best option to hedge my bets right now weight wise. What are your thoughts? *Can I get away using a 1.9lb PP core in the cooler 16*-18* Victorian temps or will the board be way to stiff? *Could I use a 1.9lb PP ISS core board with the soft flex ISS in Victoria waters? Is this a better option? *Will the new 1.9lb PP core technology boards float me better than the NRG+core?(I’ve never ridden a PP board) *What is each board cores water temperature range as a guide? Companies never say on websites. Warm water to me might be cold water to you, if your picking up what I’m putting down. *Am I having to go another NRG+ core board with a stiffer ISS for more drive in Vic barrels and warmer waters? *Are there any other options available in board core technology for cooler waters? *Would the NMD/VS Proride ISS boards be way to stiff in Victoria? *What about ‘Kinetic’ PP cores like the Hardy Modern Anarchy in cool water? **Not into the D12 cores either; they’re not 100% waterproof and have no ISS either. Sorry for the essay KS, and the question bombing. Like I mentioned earlier, I’m just a bit lost with all the tech, and there is no surf shop around my area that specialise in bodyboarding to ask questions. When I called an interstate surf shop, all they really wanted to do was move their cheaper PE floor stock boards. No thanks. I know it does really just come down to personal preference most of the time, but information is confusing from one company to the next. Could be a subject topic for your channel maybe? You could school the next crop of young groms coming through and help grow the sport. Plus learn a few of us older dogs in the process. 👍 Thanks in advance KS. YEWWW 🤙🤙

@kookshed 3 года назад

hey mate, yeah i think a 42.5 might be a good option if your body is still fluctuating a bit. for your height normally a 41.5 or 42 would work, but you could try a wider template (eg around 21.75-22 inches)for your current weight (eg- the BSD Ben re-releases are wide and fast down the line). any shape with heaps of area around the nose and widest point should get you trimming well (i'm assuming you won't be doing DK). PP is more bouyant than most other cores so most should float you better even in a smaller size. Kinetic/NRG float similar too. 43 might be to big for you after a while (i'm on a 42.5 and am 6'2"). good choice with PP ISS option, flexiest ISS option should work for Vic winter, and just go up to Med or Stiff if water warms up. personally i like my boards to flex a bit, especially in punchy pockety waves, and i rode a D12 in cold water (13-15c) and loved it, but it had stringer and mesh too (was a Custom X Custom D12, fantastic prone shape too). warm water for me is 18-22c and PP/Stringer/Mesh is nice for that. the Proride cores have possibly the best flex and performance i've felt in a new board, flexes kinda like a brand new Dow PE core with mesh in the old days, but it lasts longer. one thing i noticed is the stiffness and 'pop' does deteriorate over time so possibly a good very cold water (10-14c) option once it's been worn in well over summer? yes a kinetic option or similar tech core might be a good solution as well, but can be hard to know exactly how stiff each company makes them, that's why i tried 1.2pcf D12 -i know you're not a fan but still claiming this core in cold water mate. What about the new Science flex grading system..? worth a look and top notch shapes. If i had to make a decision like yours i'd consider getting 2 boards- 1x larger stiffer warm water board and 1x smaller flexier cold water board, and if there's an ISS option to change the flex in each one, all the better. hope this helps! any more q's just ask -KS

@MC_Mookie 3 года назад

Thanks for your reply KS. Your advice is really appreciated 👍 I’ve been a tad busy of late, so please excuse my tardy reply. Have decided the 42.5” PP core/mesh/flexiest ISS option is the best way to go for now. Yeah mate, will be riding prone until my body gets accustomed to surf fitness again, then some DK will follow. Thinking I can use my wider template 43” Winny (if it ever arrives) as my DK start point. Don’t hate the D12 cores as I’ve never ridden one to really make that sort of a judgement. Just don’t like them as an option. It’s just that I already own 2 mid range PE core/mesh/dual stringer/HDPE boards (43”NMD Evolution - 42”VS Ignition) that I feel would be sort of similar in some way to their flexibility properties.(only a guess though) Plus there’re no ISS model choices that I could find, and like the PE cores, not being 100% waterproof isn’t a real good selling point for me. Did look at the Custom X D12 and Science board range. Liked both the Science Style Loaded ISS and High Volume models, more so the ISS model, (really like the options that ISS can give) but couldn’t find it in any shops in my size range. Maybe a Loaded could be a 42” option when the kgs come off. I do like the Proride ISS boards KS. Something about them rang true (gut feeling) before I even contacted you, but I was a little worried that the extra inlays would make it too stiff for the cold Victorian water. Hence questions. So you reckon the Proride ISS could be a good option for the 10-14c range once broken in?? Sorry if I’m doubling up on what’s already asked, I’m just getting some confirmation. I would be using it with the flexiest ISS. Once again, great channel mate. Keep up to good work. Hope you and your family are safe and you’re getting some good clean waves. Flood waters down here atm. Most of the rivers along the coastline are spewing super freezing cold poo brown water in the ocean. Every break I’ve looked at looks super sketchy 🥶🦈 Thanks in advance KS Yeww🤙

@kookshed 3 года назад

@@MC_Mookie no worries mate. yeah the Style Loadeds are sweet as! great template but mine felt way too stiff in cold water (13-14c) when new, but as you know that's a pretty common story. yes Winny Proride PFS system PP core if worn in over summer and flexy ISS might be perfect combo for you down there in winter. try to steer clear of HDPE slick bottoms in future and go Surlyn option wherever possible for better speed/projection and flex properties. keep checking near all the creek and river mouths after all that rain! amazing banks could pop up anywhere after a good flush. cheers and all the best -KS

@MC_Mookie 3 года назад

Thanks again for your advice KS. Really helped me with my board choice. Cheers mate 🤙