No Apology, No Change, No Nothing 

before getting the apology from random loot box, you have to get the box from the random bundle chain, which you can try after purchasing the previous chain bundle with doubloon

Just change their name to War gambling

@@treekid7455 yes, but you only get access to the bundle chain after completing a special mission where you have to fight a Mushashi with a herring

Dont forget to get all of the apology you have to buy all the lootboxes.

@@frankysworld Please don't spread useless rumors. it is well known that these bundles will be tied to the New Zealand Battleship tech tree release :)

Dude, that game can't come to steam fast enough.

That or Rule the Waves 2

He should look into Task Force: Admiral, and Sea Power also!

ultimate admiral dreadnaughts is even worse than wargaming they ban people from discord rooms for critisim. people like flamuu can freely rage out on internet about wg and wg does nothing. those guys they cant stand 10% of what this community says to wg

Yeah, would be nice if the price of that game wasn’t ridiculously high…

Yeah right , until grows and become WG ... wake up .

@@cookiesupervisor2211 so are you suggesting all game developer are as bad as wg? there are tones of small studios out their making wonderful games, and big companies such as Riot aren't this bad right? give them a chance no?

​@@cookiesupervisor2211 Its probably better to look at it like this. Once a game developer becomes large enough, the CC or community voices that helped at the start become less important, as the game can support and grow on its own. At that point the important of community outreach, like CCs becomes less and less important to them from a purely monetary standpoint. Depending on the viewpoints of the execs of the company, they may choose to continue this relationship as positively as in the start, or lessen their community contribution in favor of more and more short term monetary gains, similarly to how wargaming has done here. I guess what I am saying is, it depends on the person or people in charge and how morally bankrupt they want to be for more monetary growth. Both ways can make additional $$$$, but one is short term where as the other takes time to bear fruit.

@@jeffma7202 Riot has been under investigation for systemic employee abuse for the past 3 years. One of their execs told media that George Floyd deserved to die. They made a deal with Saudi torturers, then canceled the deal when it was leaked to the public. If they lose a court case in one country, they file a new one in a competing country. Riot are as bad as any of them.

@@lcmattern I have over 20k battles in wows , all lines researched , all T8,9,10 bought out , and now I buy out T7 I have 9 left , I have total 43 T10 + special I sunk 8 ships in one battle on Musashi , I earned solo warrior on Richelieu , I shoot down 80 planes on Salem , I got 4864 base xp on Benham , I sunk 7 ships on Clemson , I have been called cancer after I burn 6 ships in one game in Smolensk , I ranked out few times , yes WG is shity company , but WOWS is just mighty fine game I have invested 3 years of my life playing it , and I wont stop it , and I dont have time for some other game , I am 37 and I am just too old and lazy to do so , I am so lazy I will retire at age of 40 buy home in Spain and whole days do nothing at all , and best is I have spend 2$ on wows to buy out Cossac , WG wont see any $$$ and any other game I will play will be single player CP2077 when alfa testing will end , of GTA6,TES6,Fallout5 ...

Someone said is a free game? Or a thinking mans

This broke me. I am never going to spend another penny to this game.

"WG still tries to fuck their customers in the ass" Nopenope, no. WG IS f*cking you/us in the ass we just have to pretend it's not happening.

@@mkl21bis You can stop spending money.

@@clashman7564 Who says i haven't stop spending?

You sure you're not just really good at your job? Hehe.

@@globalforce Well, yes. Plus it's a client I really like (a quadriplegic who runs his own charity). But I'm also working on other things...and the press release wasn't a 'disaster'. PR shit like this get's top priority. It took them what, 3 days to respond officially? And the response was a non-response? That's...bizarrely pathetic. I'd say 'fire your agency/VP' but sheesh this is their typical response...like it's company policy. No one's getting fired because they are doing what they are supposed to do. Even the nice ones. Even the ones that seem like they care. Just a different way of enforcing the same policy, imo. How many of these events have happened to WG in the past 5 years? How many times have they led to real, positive change? (hint, the answers are not infrequently and zero).

@@globalforce Oh, and thanks.

@@Ocrilat It seems like the fundamental attitude of Russian or Russia-adjacent developers is a lot less consumer friendly; I've seen this kind of attitude with companies like Eagle Dynamics (DCS developer) and I suppose one could link that with Russian approach to customer service in general, which seems to be: "I have a product or a service, you buy it and don't expect me to kowtow to your every whim."

​@@globalforce Maybe. But that isn't what this is...and that isn't what they are doing here. I've worked with Russians too...and I like their straightforwardness. They also tend to work their asses off (and when not working...play their asses off). This lazy, weaselly incompetence of WG isn't what I'm used to. They had a big success with World of Tanks. Now that is a shadow of what it was, wrecked through their incompetence and short-term thinking. They tried to make other games. Most were failures, and some were expensive failures (like World of Warplanes v. 1 and 2). World of Warships was a minor success...that they now seem determined to milk dry too. It's a weird thing to watch, especially as a marketing/pr professional. Weird but interesting.

Or Activision

Hell, even gaijin isn't this bad.

@@m0nkEz gaijin in linbo for now lol

Both are shit. The only good thing that EA did recently was it's partnership with Petroglyph Games (former Westwood Studios employees) to do the Remaster of Command & Conquer and Red Alert. The other being BF:1. WG, EA, Gaijin, Ubisoft, Activision, Blizzard, etc (AAA developers in general) I steer clear from as everything they make is $*** these days. Not to mention greedy lootboxes and microtransactions

@@soto1649 I am done with War Thunder as well as the grind has become boring and a chore and it takes the fun out of the game. For flight games, I just dust off il-2: 1946, load my mods and have a blast.

Ye know the best thing to aim for in customer service is "always aim to exceed the customers expectations" I don't think WG quite got that it's the POSITIVE expectations to aim for 😂

To quote Jungles: “We set the bar low, then Wargaming brought a shovel”

Totally agree and I did the same last year.

Not even that: they seem to care only for the short term bottom line. People seem to be abandoning the game, WoT especially (maybe the russian player base keeps growing but who knows?) but WG doesn't seem to care. All they do is plonk more premiums on the cash shop and do changes nobody asks for (maybe except some accountant in their basement). I guess they reached that phase were all they can think about is how to sqeaze every last cent out of the existing players.

I spent 500 dollars on this game in total prior to the CV rework and I felt like I might as well have thrown all that money over the cliff and into the ocean.

Even if you bury the bar, they will come up with an elaborate vodka-fueled way to tunnel under the bar.

whats worse is that if you didnt care about buying it and you complete the campaign, you are gonna wanna buy it because you worked hard and unlocked the ability to buy it

There was also something about the Musashi, in the auction from the armory, it was an auction and few could win her, but there was a really big catch and big money to pay to just try you hands at it, the amount was 20 000 Doubloons at minimal, I did some counting about how much money could mean for 20 000 Doubloons, it was crazy, 20 000 Doubloons is worth 100 $$ ( Canadian currency, but that's only because I'm in Canada, don't ask me about how much it'd mean for Euro or any other currency ) and the amount was only to start, naturally since it's an auction it'd rise and get all the more expensive... Screw that I thought, no way I'm paying that much for just a ship in a computer video game, Now they're trying out that Azur Lane event all over again, thing is that I don't give an ass for something like that, I'm not even interested in this one.... I only stopped spending money on this game for years now but I still take my premium ships from the Armory, nothing else, the ships there might not be the best but at least they're around and since I'm a coop player, it's not that bad... Besides, when it comes to those auction thing, I only take the coal bundle and ignoring the rest... And get this, I've even been invited to their new batch of CC, but I don't see myself as working for that company and I don't want to be involved with this circus as one of their clowns... Naturally, it means that I said no... WG might be getting desperate for the money if they invited the likes of me, I don't do it for a career nor an income and I still have some self-respect... Still playing but not buying a single kopeck, but If there are some ships in the armory, then fine, coal is ok but not my money.... I just had to mention this....

@@Black-Rat 100USD gets you 30k doubloons here in the States, just for reference. So 20,000 doubloons is around the price of a tier 9 premium.

If it´s good and fun to play like WOWs used to be, hell yes I will be switching over!

@@TheBigGiant_SpaceChiken I honestly think alot of people will be interested in the game with the current state of the game. Especially if they have on the roadmap plans for ranked or something more competitive

@@denchief114 This is honestly a good time for an alternative game to come out. People are looking. Steel Ocean was a good game when it was alive and it had subs which were well balanced and fun to play, so they can work. I pray for the day Navyfield 3 is announced, but that is a pipe dream as far as that is concerned.

Hopefully Little White Mouse, Flamu, Jingles, etc helps out with this project as well. Especially LWM! She was one of the most helpful in the entire CC community also, plus she also deserves better.

@@SeraphoftheRoundTable how did subs work? Can they dive? Guns?

It's not stupid, just evil. This apology doesn't suck because they're incompetent (although they are incompetent), it sucks because they honestly don't care about the people they're apologizing to. The cc program has served its purpose and now it's time to move on for them.

They are beyond EA at this point.

They are beyond EA now.......at least EA learn something .......

@@RequiemGamingLikeR LOL no they aren't. EA charges you 60 dollars per year, resets your progress every year, game is basically an Alpha with the game breaking bugs and EVERYTHING is behind a lootbox. Not just "premium" players but EVERY player in FUT or MUT. Also, they have a LEGAL monopoly on FIFA and NFL licenses so a competitor CAN'T be made. WG isn't even 10% as bad as EA or Ubisoft or Activision/Blizzard.

man I was thinking the same thing ...

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I know a new naval game is coming but i don't know if it is the same ichase talks about, the name as of now is FoS "Fleet of Steel" and there are info about the new game in steel of ocean's discord server

@@IsaNyaaa Interesting? So that's the name? No reveal trailer at all yet? Is it done by the same devs as Steel Ocean?

Why shutter the program,when you can fill the empty space with shills that will cater to their new demographic,and also push around the people that are still on the program because they're too small to go fully independent?

@@redstar96gr57 They cater to people who suck. Who's gonna watch a stream if they just suck the whole time.

@@TotalDbag24 they don't have to get *streamers* on the CC program,they can just get dedicated RU-vidrs,it's not like all the CCs streamed WoWs

While Jingles is very likely correct in this assessment, this shitstorm seems to be large enough to get the attention of the regular media. This is something that WG should be pretty afraid of. The reason for this is, that 1. Loot-boxes in games are already being investigated in several European countries 2. When regular media reports about WG's predatory monetization (for a game rated 7+, no less), regular people hear about it. 3. When regular people (and especially parents, most of which are usually pretty clueless about what their kids play) hear about this, they might rise a bit of a stink and if regular people rise a stink, politicians might notice it (and there are elections over here in Germany rather soon) and might get involved, if only to score some points with the public. 4. This could speed up the legislative process considerably - and the last thing WG wants, is having their games declared 18+ in Europe.

@@EllenbergW Really hope your right, but, until they're called on the carpet by a regulatory body and can not weasel out of it by saying they're not 'loot boxes' they're 'random bundles' like how EA tried to squirm out by saying 'oh its not gambling, tis surprise mechanics!' nothing will change because honestly the vast majority of the player base these days don't keep up with anything beyond WG's news portal anything that happens outside of that probably isn't going to happen for them. its going to take Governments to step in and slap them hard for them to get it through their heads loot boxes are just that damned lucrative and companies are not moral to begin with. sure, get kids and vets addicted to your game's gambling mechanic, what of it, the only consequence (currently) is they get more money from people unable to help themselves.

They have committed themselves to appeal to Normies. But you know a funny thing about Normies. Once a new fad comes around the corner all the Normies will leave and Wargaming will start wondering what happened to their core players. Worked fine for Blizzard right?

exactly

@@legiran9564 Let it happen. They can lay in the bed they made when it's too late.

It's like the disloyal boyfriend meme. WG checking out the new players while the veteran players are actively ignored.

funny considering the game already has a shit audience base to begin with. Not to be an asshole but it doesnt speak well for your game when the biggest streamers of it are typically on twitch with maybe on average 1.5k viewers at most. This game isnt appealing to younger audiences and the older audiences that it actually brings in are dying off/leaving

Not another dime AND no more of my time.

sadly i know how they survived. Old veterans who use their retirement checks and lay down countless money for premiums and other ships because they likely want to collect the ships they have seen or served on. I was in a clan full of these veterans and my god it was just sad these old guys don't give two shits about the crap that goes on in the background and just keep playing the game and spending money. this steady income wont stop til that generation dies off sadly

Task force admiral, by far one of the best naval WW2 games by the looks of it so far.

Is it someone who bought the name, or the original developers?

@@rabidlemming3680 Kinda both. Someone bought the name and also hired some of the original devs.

@@maviba One of the founders is an original cofounder of Microprose from back in the day.

They are exactly the same as EA, Gaijin, Ubisoft, Activision, Blizzard, etc. Completely out of touch with reality and full of greed which is why I never buy AAA titles anymore. I am both done with Wows and War Thunder as well.

hehe, you might have somethings to look forward to with BSP

It is hard in the EU. Every country has the own regulation for gambling.(There is no EU law for gambling just every country has its own gambling regulation) I think Netherlands/Belgium has banned the lootboxes every other country in the eu does do shit about it.

@@DeteCT0R Netherlands/Belgium are also the only countries (that Im aware off) that have gaming on TV.

Which is why a new game is needed. I look forward to this new project iChase is working on. Hopefully other former wows CC's join in as well. Especially LWM.

im pretty sure he's not a developer. Wargaming is a big company and at this point im willing to bet at least half of the company isn't even game related. for example they probably have "historians" trying to do some digging to find more premiums they can start designing and so forth

I will🤘🏻

Already bought a copy through the website. Its a blast.

till man battleships will look like life boats compared to what we will create