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No Budget Reviews (Accidental Miller Corner Rip-Off Edition): 2001 Fiat Seicento 1.1 SX 

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-One 2001 Fiat Seicento 1.1 SX
-One Mobile Phone
-No Fancy Outfits
-No Obscure In-Jokes
-No DSLRs
-No Shotgun Microphones
-No Fluid Head Tripods
-No Idea about Exposure
-No Budget Whatsoever
It is time for the newest instalment in that beloved cinematic automotive RU-vid experience where we film practical cars that can be bought for less than £1,000 in a manner befitting of their inexpensive value! This may go horribly wrong (and frequently does)...
This time, as we test a 2001 Fiat Seicento 1.1 SX, I suddenly feel a fair bit of inspiration from Mr Miller from the Miller Corner channel ( / millercorner , drive along the South Circular in London, enter the Ultra Low Emission Zone, avoid paying a toll, keep mixing up the Cinquecento and Seicento, deal with some very noisy wiper blads and I drone on about very little of any importance at all. Nothing untoward, then...
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As an independent vehicle consultant, I take potential buyers through the whole car buying process from choosing a make and model to a vehicle handover and road tax. In addition to information on this service, I also have a selection of written and video reviews of cars that I have owned, hired, borrowed or have somehow come into my possession. Please use the Contact Me page on my website to get in touch, visit my Facebook page for latest updates and share this video if you like it! Thank you for watching.
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@mariojager43
@mariojager43 2 года назад
A neighbor a few doors away has the Michael Schumacher special edition in yellow. My mother in law had one and four of us drove down to Devon for the day from the Midlands down the M5 twenty years ago, my brother in law drove and er hum I'm ashamed to say he was toping the max speed all the way! It was fun though but you wouldn't get away with it now with all the smart motorways and increased traffic. Good review, they are basic but fun in a good way.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the video, sir! Yes, I am sure that you managed to get a good turn of speed in the Seicento Schumacher Edition... You are right about the changes in motorway enforcement, the cameras would definitely have stopped your fun these days!
@mattw8332
@mattw8332 2 года назад
I was car hunting back in July 2002, had a budget of £5k and stopped at my local Fiat dealers. Salesman there said that I could have a new Seicento S for £4995 (or one from their stock one that had had been registered). I was sorely tempted. Would have been a suitable replacement for my ageing 1990 Mini Racing Green. However, I really wanted a supermini so bought a SEAT Ibiza instead.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes sir, the Ibiza is a very different sort of prospect from one of these, I would have thought! Crazy to think that you could get a brand new one of these for less than £5,000 twenty years ago.
@seancooke7332
@seancooke7332 2 года назад
What a pleasant surprise. The forgotten Seicento. The little Cinquecento was a fabulous little car that handled really well and was very reliable. The Seicento took that starting point and brought it right up to date. Spritely because its light and almost as easy to park as a Smart. Don't know what happened the FIRE engine in the Punto Mk1 because in the Uno and the Panda it was very trustworthy. Oh Sir, those wheel trims are straight off my 1990 Fiat Panda Sergio Tacchini Special Edition with the 1.0 litre Fire engine, 5 speed and the beautiful green interior. Really miss that Panda. If you get a chance, Sir, try one. The carried on until 1994 and the last of the line CLX actually received that 1.1 Fire engine. Would love one of those.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Oh sir, the Mark II Panda actually continued through Cinquecento and Seicento production right up until 2003! Not over here, of course... The FIRE engine was well known for blowing head gaskets in the late 1990s, and Mr Miller also confirms this in his buyer's guide. Yes, very easy to park and only 730 kg. The wheel trims are indeed off a Mark II Panda, I will take your word for it about the particular special edition.
@Matt-jt1ic
@Matt-jt1ic 2 года назад
Thanks for coming up! Something very pure about the Seicento's back to basics approach, especially with its unpretentious styling. Definitely has flaws-not least *that* crash test-but it's a great ULEZ compliant runaround and worth buying while prices are still at rock bottom. (Cinquecento prices have been creeping up for a while now.)
@terryatkinson3182
@terryatkinson3182 2 года назад
I have 2cinquecentos now a 900s and a 1100 sporting as projects really. The 900 is on the road now but the sporting has head gasket issues. I think I'll never sell the 900 as it's really basic and just appeals to me more. Bought both of them for about 45euro each 4 years ago and you can't get one now for less than 1500euro here in Ireland it seems. I couldn't afford them when new and always liked them so I bought them and they go on classic insurance. Love driving them and tinkering on them.
@Matt-jt1ic
@Matt-jt1ic 2 года назад
@@terryatkinson3182 Love a Cinquecento! Quite a few were up for sale in London late last year because of the expansion of ULEZ, and I would have loved to snap one up, but unfortunately I couldn't buy one for the same reason they had to sell :(
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Oh sir, we tried to avoid the crash test issue, but it looks as if it is unavoidable... There are flaws, but I did very much enjoy it, thank you again!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Oh dear, the good old Ultra Low Emission Zones seem to have pretty much prevented a lot of cars from being viable to run in certain areas, doesn't it?
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 2 года назад
I think someone enjoyed driving this Sir, always something about basic motoring and this Fiat fits the bill, I can imagine it being nippy around the town!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
There was something really charming about it, and for something small to run around the Ultra Low Emission Zone in, it seemed very fit for purpose indeed!
@adriancaldwell
@adriancaldwell 2 года назад
Aged very well I think. Thirty five years driving and I’m ashamed to say never take any notice of rev counters
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
It's perfect for little journeys like the one I did in South London. You are right, driven lots and lots of cars without rev counters now, one gets used to it.
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics 2 года назад
Good basic motoring. I was going to say it has a tea shelf but it's more of a soup bowl lol. There is a yellow super Seicento not far from me but not as tuned as the Miller Corner one though.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, I think you can fit a lot of upgrades to these. Not really a tea shelf at all, is it, Simone? Mr Miller's car is definitely something else!
@terryatkinson3182
@terryatkinson3182 2 года назад
Never had one of these but I do buy the odd bit from scrap yards as the bits fit my cinquecento. Fiat use the same parts for donkeys years and parts are interchangeable with many models. A new radiator is 20euro from Poland 🤗
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, very similar underneath to the Cinquecento from what I understand. As I mentioned in the review, that OHV engine dates back to 1955, doesn't it? I am sure that there are still millions of these around in Poland and other places on the Continent!
@Lot76CARS
@Lot76CARS 2 года назад
Great review, my god this is a basic car.. less to go wrong I suppose and perfect for London … Very ably demonstrates the nonsense of ULEZ that doesn’t fully consider the cost of scrapping old / building new vehicles and that cities are doing their own thing with no alignment in the name of the environment…
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, there is definitely a need to reduce pollution if we can, but maybe forcing to scrap perfectly functioning cars with relatively clean small capacity engines is not necessarily the way to go about it. I didn't mention it at the time, but this doesn't even have a temperature gauge!
@leeallen7585
@leeallen7585 2 года назад
Always fancied one of these since a certain TV Programme featured a yellow one
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
That was a Cinquecento, sir, but they are virtually the same underneath!
@willswheels283
@willswheels283 2 года назад
I love these little cars, I had a silver Y reg one about 3 yrs ago, that too was a 1.1 SX, I paid a mere £200 for it with 3 months MOT. Fun to drive, cheap to run, very “fizzy” rev happy engine. I drove mine once from Stoke on Trent to Ilfracombe and back once and it drove well, not the most comfortable ride but it never missed a beat. Thanks for the vid Joseph! 👍
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, probably not the best car for motorways, sir! These are still pretty cheap from what I understand. Extremely cheap to run, I can't deny that!
@kenbakie4590
@kenbakie4590 2 года назад
I had one of these as a rental car in Zakynthos many years ago. It was reasonably nippy and really suited driving round the island. I really enjoyed it's A to B simplicity.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Thank you for watching, sir! Yes, really nippy with the 1.1 engine and ideal for city conditions or those of a small island, I imagine.
@mwheatley2365
@mwheatley2365 2 года назад
Really like these back to basics cars…although I wouldn’t want to have an accident in one..!!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Let's not think about that, sir! Fortunately, I wasn't going above 30 mph during the review...
@markonmotoring
@markonmotoring 2 года назад
A rarity to see a Surviver that's not a sporting or in some way modified. Just a good honest car. My Aunti did own a yellow sporting which I drove to the end of our street and back a very quirky little car. Didn't really get the fascination at the time but I can see why they are now gaining a following.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, the yellow Sporting is the quintessential Seicento model that everyone remembers, I think. This one was still a lot of fun, however. Slowly gaining a following now thanks to the efforts of Mr Miller and others.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 года назад
344061 Fiat Seicento 1.1I Active 3Dr BX03SBU 28,839 Miles Newport £225 £30 £0 £255 Payment is due within 3 days This wasn’t a bad example. But was forgettable. One of the worse cars ever driven for fun, solidness. Safety. Anything. Like wheels only. Not unsimilar to when using a labourer and calling them arms and legs. It did a job A 147 T Spark Selespeed. NOW !!!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
I am not sure my drive in the Seicento yesterday was forgettable, in fact it was far from it, as they seem to have quite a lot of character, as did the Cinquecentos. I think in the context that Matt bought it (a cheap small car to get around the London Ultra Low Emission Zone), it does make quite a lot of sense. I wouldn't want to go a long journey in one, however.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 года назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yes. Spot on. Around block back fro MOT station all good. South Wales to Cheshire dragged up on m5 and m6 left me thinking about holidays and forgetting was even at the helm of a motor vehicle. Just a tool to get me up over a longer journey. The fun fell out of it.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
@@zzhughesd, yes, short journeys are really the Seicento's speciality. I wouldn't want to take one on a long motorway journey.
@markonmotoring
@markonmotoring 2 года назад
I'd forgotten about the pedal box spacing. I do like closely spaced brake and throttle pedals but even I found these incredibly tight for anything but the most slender of footwear. I often think that fiat take a very different approach to there city cars than other manufacturers.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Oh yes, I started to get cramp relatively quickly in this car, and I only have size 10 shoes. It certainly was very different from many other types of city car at the time!
@oliverhawke482
@oliverhawke482 Год назад
Im currently sourcing a 1.1 sx with a soleil roof, i do believe they are rare on the sx models but i was lucky enough to find one as a doer upper !
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting Год назад
Gosh, never seen one of those! That must be very rare. Thanks ever so much indeed for watching!
@MrRuv10
@MrRuv10 7 месяцев назад
The only thing in common my current car has which is a BMW 6 series is 4 wheels and the seat belts cannot be adjusted either. Oh incidently this was my first car and a bloody great car!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 7 месяцев назад
Yes, not much in common with this one in comparison with a BMW... I did enjoy this one, even if the pedal box was really cramped and a bit difficult to use.
@davidspencer7254
@davidspencer7254 2 года назад
Handbrake is easy to adjust, but you can pull handbrake on and hit the brake pedal to improve things for a short while. Rear shoes are cheap. I had one 22 years ago (sporting) and I have size 12 shoes....
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, well, I got used to the handbrake after a while! It was bad enough with my size 10 shoes, not sure what it would have been with size 12 shoes....
@davidspencer7254
@davidspencer7254 2 года назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting its a bit wearing on the ankle after a few hours I suppose but I reckon I could still avoid hitting brake and accelerate together.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
@@davidspencer7254 , yes, even I was feeling a bit of cramp having only driven it for around 25 minutes or so!
@johneisen6341
@johneisen6341 2 года назад
Still looks like a modern car all these years later
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
I think that the facelifted ones do look a fair bit more modern.
@richardhowlett9424
@richardhowlett9424 2 года назад
Thanks Joseph , great little box on wheels , doubt it could be made today .
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
I don't think that it would pass myriad safety and emissions regulations, sir... Doesn't mean that it isn't fun, however!
@alansimpson835
@alansimpson835 2 года назад
I thought those were Panda wheeltrims. Oh these take me back. One of my friends got a Seicento Mia (basically an S) brand new as his first car and it took do much punishment. Like me he was a bigger chap, but also taller so he looked like Donkey Kong in Mariokart when he drove it. Great little things for nipping around in but I agree. Those pedals are really close together. My mother's Cinquecento was the same and many a time I clipped the accelerator when trying to brake. Looks like a great example though and I really like the colour
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Yes, Panda Mark II wheeltrims, sir! The base specification Seicentos are quite rare, as most ended up being Sportings. I felt tall enough in this, goodness knows what it is like for people over six foot. The pedals are ridiculously tiny, but I managed! The colour is brilliant.
@colinhicks4174
@colinhicks4174 2 года назад
I had one of these as a courtesy car back in the late 90s. I must had have the Fiat Bravo at the time. When I was driving I kept getting the feeling I was being followed. It took me a while to work out it was the back window. I have to say I would rather have a K11 Micra with the 1 litre manual. More fun and a bit more refined.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
I think that this was more fun than the K11 I drove last year, sir, but refined it is not, and the Micra does have a better gearbox. I know what you mean about that rear window!
@colinhicks4174
@colinhicks4174 2 года назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting it may also be a question of image. The Micra in particular was bought by an older demographic. Whereas cars like the Seicento, 106 & Saxo were actively marketed towards younger drivers.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 года назад
Aha. Bought. A4C NWP. Newport. 225 GBP in Dec. Sold Jan 825 for 75 off. A sub 40,000 mile 1.1 Active, 2003. And you know I remember most details all my cars last 6-12 months. Couldn’t remember mileage exact. Nor trim level. Did engine and price paid. As a trader you remember the important bits. Forgetting the trim level even the plate 52 or 53 or 03 and mileage. Could have been 28k 38k. Usually I know. Only bought Nov. This was one forgettable Fiat . I drove it back to to Cheshire. 255 cost all in, 825 back. Another bread butter turn around. I’ve had in entire car trade 17 years 3-5 of these. Would like to have traded 20-30 or more but literally don’t exist. They drive errrrrr. Sketchy. The MK1 KA is a sweetheart. These things remind me of mountain goats. The Turin motorway. And Silsley 4x4 Pandas. They suit Italians. And the UK didn’t buy them. They don’t drive good enough. Just errrr don’t. Really queer way they steer. The tight pedal box. The non existent dashboard and the sound insulation. They’re like a 500 worse. But prettier. . Queer driving position. Everything is very odd. Nothing normal. Maybe cars in 50s were like this but may late 90s cars were mega and the 600 Fiat truely borderline awful for our UK home market. But cute front end. Ok rear. side profile well not pleasing to a camera . I’m an Italian FAN, but maybe the 600 one of the least liked. No. Is. It’s just got to soul/fun/anything. I literally get a sex wee about an Alfa 147. Always did. Never more than today. The 600 is close to dreadful. But cute. Cheap. And a death trap. Am I being harsh on the 600. I’ve never been able to spell Siecento unless on google on a laptop . I’d buy one for stock tomorrow. Like as many as can. They sell slow. I couldn’t own one , tho !!!!!!!!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
I am not sure, but I think that these actually tend to resist rust a little bit better than the Mark I Ford Kas. I have driven one of those (a really late one on a 57 plate), and it was fun. I also enjoyed this, though, although the steering, gearbox and handling are better on a Ka. This car is very suitable for Italy, and I have driven over there myself! I have driven a number of Alfa Romeos (a 155, two 166s, a very rare Alfa Romeo 90 and a 916 Spider), and I agree with you that there is just something about them. Haven't ever driven a 147, but I would like to.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 года назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting these definitely definately don’t rust. Nor do Pandas mk2. The Ka is it’s own rust bucket. Mk6 fiesta doesn’t either.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd 2 года назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting 147 is a truely wonderful car. Even smaller Petrol.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
@@zzhughesd, I would like to try one, it just depends if I get offered one, really.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
@@zzhughesd, you are absolutely right. There are a couple of rust areas on a Seicento, but they aren't as bad as you would imagine. Same story with the Mark VI Fiesta, I have seen some rusty ones, but nothing like the Mark III, IV and V Fiestas. Those Pandas are surprisingly hardy!
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. Never had this in New Zealand. In fact I did not even know this Fiat existed until a minute ago!!!! 🙂
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
Well, you learn something new every day, don't you, sir? Glad you enjoyed the video!
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 2 года назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes! Looked like fun!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting 2 года назад
@@alaricbragg7843 , we aim to please, sir!
@enigmalex3649
@enigmalex3649 Год назад
My temperature light is often flickering. Do you know what could cuse that?
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting Год назад
I have asked Mr Miller, who is a Seicento expert, and he has simply suggested that perhaps getting a mechanic to have a look at it would be a good idea.
@enigmalex3649
@enigmalex3649 Год назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thanks for the replay. I would first check wiring around tempreture sensor and sensor itself but I couldn't find the sensor. Is it somewhere around thermostat? I check the coolant and it's at max level
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting Год назад
@@enigmalex3649 , no idea, I am afraid.
@enigmalex3649
@enigmalex3649 Год назад
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I finally found the sensor. It's under back of the air filter housing almost under brake fluid reservoir
@gregoryoakman8639
@gregoryoakman8639 Год назад
Had one, great fun and did the trick.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
@lloydvehicleconsulting Год назад
Yes, the pedal box is a bit terrifying on them, but nevertheless an enjoyable little car! Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting.
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