Possible solution for your issue. Buy the White 78a Independent Bushings, And A pair of Standard Medium Orange 90a Independent Bushings. Play with the Configuration. Bottoms Medium ''Orange'' Tops Soft ''White'' = more carve, looser feel and still have the pop. or reverse Bottoms Soft "White" Tops Medium "Orange" = less pop, more cushion similar to softer wheels, and the medium top will make it feel more like the standard "Indy" feel, but with adding some Pop. *not the first configuration is a nice feel.
You're right about the inverted kingpins not being able to be tightened as much as the regular or hollow ones. At first I thought the kingpin was bottoming out and hitting the deck. What's really going on is the threads run out. You'll be able to see this if you tighten them to the fullest off of the deck. What I've done to fix that is either add a smaller flat washer under the top curved washer which gives it a couple of more turns or run a harder 93a set of bushings as opposed to the stock 90a ones. I only have to do this with my rear truck since I only ride that one on the tighter side and my front is always fairly loose.
only set of inverted kingpins i tried were indy mids and even after adding 3 washers they were still unskateable for me. blue indy bushings work great with the axle nut sitting just flush for me.
I have found two ways to keep your inverted kingpin nice n snug .buy some plumbers tape and wrap the threads and a new one I just tried and this method seems weird but the shit works get a latex glove and cut the glove the size of the kingpin threads and it's like a mini condom for your kingpin and once you start turning it your gonna feel resistance and that sucker gets nice and tight😂
Rotate wheels... rarely hear that mentioned 👍 I also move them... back left to front right, back right to front left... I sharpie the inside with the location on each wheel right above the bearing.... it's a little more work, but everytime I put on brand new wheels and feel the evenness, I'm reminded it's worth that extra effort.
I'm skating the Carlos ribiero indy mids that come with the inverted kingpin, I've seen ben's video talking about how they catch on smiths but I don't really experience that, switched from thunder hollow lights (love them) I definitely noticed a difference in the baseplate with tail slides, they work way easier on the indy truck.
The inverted king pin indy is most likely heavier because the king pin is not hollow like the Hollow version, the forged hollow are even lighter as the base plate uses less aluminum due to it being stronger from being forged, but they are a bit lower because of that (it’s a trade off, weight for height).
For 10 years I'd have the nut stick evenly where the axle is hanging out. Cause it saves you time. Money. Also. Just in case if you gotta switch the nuts out. It'll help. Cause I hate bashing the nuts in personally. And if you plan to keep your trucks. It'll help in the long run. All you gotta do is switch the axle nuts out.
I just switched from inverted indy mids back to hollow indy, tbh i suck at front 50-50 on flatbars but my kingpin kinda locks me in pretty nice so that when i get in im not slipping around trying to find a lock in
you also need to switch your wheels around on the axles. wheel 1 goes to axle 2, wheel 2 axle 3 etc. if you don't do this you will end up with a tiny wheel in the back in my experience.
Truck madness is real my friend. Inverted kingpins are def tricky if you’re a tight truck guy but I ended up just getting a taller for the top (bottom bones bushing works well). Also, how many setups are you rockin?
@@spencernuzzi It's weird that on the Independent Size Chart, it makes it seem like 159's are unrideable for an 8.5. I actually wish there was a 164 because I tried 169 and that was too big.
I'll ditto another comment (sorta) - the king pin snapped on my titanium indys. What annoys me about indy trucks is the lack of spare parts. Indy seems not to sell king pins (maybe they're standard across brands idk). They sell a new base plate with a king pin already in it, but I couldn't find one with a hollow king pin online, maybe a local skateshop would be able to order one. When I had mini logo trucks, I could just order a bag of 10 king pins. Unrelated to content of the video, but a heads up. Pretty sure you ride an 8.25, and I'm not sure what you're looking for in a board, but it sorta seems like you just ride whatever. Anyways, Almost skateboards (Mullen and Daewon company) have an 8.25 r7 deck - like a flight deck - on sale for $18. 14.25" WB. If you need a quality cheap deck.
Kingpins are all the same. Just buy a Grade 8 bolt the same size. R7 decks aren't like Flight decks, they're 7 ply maple with epoxy resin instead of glue. Also available through Madness, 101, New Deal, Enjoi, Santa Cruz, Creature.
Tightening the kingpin nut may not be the way you make the trucks stiffer. Try the super hard bushings that guys like freestyle skaters tend to go for!
So rather than switch trucks, you could have just swapped out bushings for a slightly harder set. They would give the same feeling of being slightly tighter.
when i was a kid like in early 2000s, i broke like 2 independent kingpings like in three months i wanted a inverted kingping so bad that i just go to the hardware store bought a grade 5 steel bolt same as the kingping but all the way threaded and put it in my trucks inverted, no more broken kingpings and a inverted kingping that you can screw or unscrew with the same skate tool. i dont know why people do that more often, grade 5 steel kingping in a wardware store is really cheap.
Traitor! Ok, let me give you the solution my friend. Replace the stock bushings to Super hard independent yellow or black bushings. That will solve your issue. The Kingpin has more than enough threading. 😎🫡
It’s a shame because I love the independent mids but will never go back. The front kingpin suddenly loosened as I was riding at speed, when I tightened them again they loosened within 5 minutes - way to scared to ride or trust another pair
indy 169s with bones hard bushings trucks medium loose, 3 washers per wheel on the truck side so i have more area for grinding and to protect the axle thread like you said home boy. you only need to have a full nut and 1 thread. thats also the standard for structual steel bolts and industrial pipes with bolted flanges. or any other bolt for that matter.
You can try to replace one of your bushings with the harder one. I put the inverted kingpin on my low trucks and put the hard bottom bushings to prevent the wheelbite, now it all works fine and truck geometry is the same. Tightening the trucks above some limit can lead to many issues with the bushings. Optionally you can add another washer on your kingpin to squeeze it tighter.
Hell yeah Spence, for some reason, I've never seen you channel. My channel, has been geared more towards cars in the last few years, but maybe I should include some more skate footy like I used to. Kinda weird though since I changed my channel name. We'll see. Alright buddy, hope to see you in the streets soon.
The threads on the kingpin are to short. Iam skating a hardwarestore kingpin and there are on the hole kingpins threads. You can go as deep as you want. If you are thightening the trucks to hard, then the geometry of the trucks will change. I think its the best to thighten the trucks just so much down, till the bushings form. Not more. If you want your trucks tighter, then you need new bushings.
This is the video i''ve been looking for! Literally the exact same with me! Weird lol 8.25 with 149 Stage 11🤣 Anything smaller seems to wonky. Even have brand new Krux K5 8.25s...nope. I would assume the krux 825 is the same as indy 144s.I'm gonna switch baseplates with a Mid just FOR the inverted kingpin though. 👊👊
