@@fujiwara_chika124 At some points yes, but it was very conditional. He loved Jesse when he did is work and cooperated with him. Jesse had unconditional love for Walt. It can be shown through things like the watch and asking to go go karting.
@@jakedoessports4245 yeah thats why he forgave him in the end lol. And he saved jesse's ass throughout the show, even though he always ruined everything with his childish emotional shit. Lol. You don't understand shit.
When Jesse asked Walt to go Go-Karting with him his eyes were so wide open and expectant. How could you say no to that face? But Mr. White did. I wish he would have said yes. During this time the one thing Jesse didn’t want was to be alone.
@@Babyahuhohey They were drug friends, not real friends. Jesse didn't have any genuine friends, besides his love interests who both died and Brock who he can never see again.
I just realized that there is another way to look at this scene, other than Walt just being an asshole. Walt probably realizes, it would be smarter to not be seen together in public. So while it comes off as cold, he actually has a pretty good reason to decline Jesse's invitation. Still one of the saddest scenes in the series.
The relationship between Jesse and Walter imo is probably the best dynamic between two characters in any show. Walt who in any other show would be the straight man plays the narcissist who used the drug addicted comic relief. In any other show jesse would j be an addict and that would be his whole personality but here u have him seeing Walter as the dad he never had and always getting shut down by him
Well yes, because this is a drama not a sitcom. Also, Bryan Cranston would be the straight man in any other show? Have you seen Malcolm in the middle lol
Its crazy how well written and acted Jesse was. It seems like he was asking walt cause he didnt really know anyone else in his life and was going through some things that he did not want to be alone for. Great acting that aaron paul was able to recreate that, you can tell he just wanted to do anything but be alone that night
As someone not quite 30 days into recovery this scene is brutally relatable to me. I've been asking people if they want to go out and do activities that don't involve drugs or alcohol but that's the only thing my friends are still interested in doing.
thats a pretty hard sittuation tbh, and i cant really say much but i feel like you should just know u doin the right thing. which is not getting involved with drugs and what not.
Sometimes its hard to find comfort in anything, real relationships are hard, alcohol, drugs and meaningless parties is what most will endure to feel alive, anything else is dangerous, theres no need to explain the fear of having someone care about you. This is of the few comments im not insulting or joking, consider it
Congratulations on 30 days!! Stay strong. Recovery is not linear, you'll have good and bad days. Just get back up and keep trying to do the next right thing. You can try NA meetings too, I did that for a while when i first got clean. I had to cut off all of my friends who did drugs - which was basically everyone i knew. I'd pushed all my non-drug addict friends and family away. The NA meetings taught me a lot of basics about recovery, and gave me a support system I could lean into when things got rough. They became my new friend group for a while. I don't go to meetings anymore now because I don't feel like I need them, my life is pretty stable. But it was a lot of hard work to get here. Had to finally face my past traumas, learn how to process emotions without being able to numb them, and repair broken relationships. A lot of obstacles along the way, 2 relapses, started with no car, no license, no money, lots of debt, no job, and a felony. I've been clean for almost 5 years now. I got back everything I lost and more. Best decision i ever made for myself and everyone I care about. You got this!!
You’ll need new friends bud. Even if it takes years it will be worth it in the end. Trust me! Keep fighting the good fight! You’re on the right path! I recommend looking into meditation and spirituality if you want some extra tools to fight those demons.. (and i don’t mean some near-pointless ”group meditation” where you can’t even focus. I mean when you’re alone. First thing you start your day with and again (the last thing) before bed. You’ll be able to deal with all the pent-up, often negative,emotions (that comes forth when getting sober) a hell of a lot better! 💪
The most heartbreaking thing in this show is Jesse's journey. Especially these moments that show how much he has grown to like Walt, even seeing him as kind of a father figure, only for Walt to treat him like a burden and never see his potential.
@@tatumstromberg9374 damn right, of all the suffering anyone goes through in this show, it doesn't even come close to what happens to Jesse, not only because of Walt, but of everything in his life constantly pushing him down, leading him to associate with terrible people and lose every hope of a happy life.
If only Walter had said yes to Jesse and they had given us a scene of the two of them in the go karts, it would have been better than seeing Jesse alone, because they already gave us many scenes of Jesse alone and without anyone to be with, They could have done a little scene that would have meant a lot as a connection between Jesse and Walt as the father and son they never were, making it more special.
i think it works better for their relationship that we don't get that scene, because... Walt really isn't a good father figure to Jesse, he manipulates him. he uses him. he may have some kind of actual care for him but it's incredibly toxic and abusive. in fact, despite Walt saying "no", he holds onto the idea of gokarting to then later throw in Jesse's face and mock when Jesse wants to leave halfway through season 5
If it makes anyone feel any better, they have a really close relationship IRL. Bryan Cranston is Aaron Paul's kids godfather. Super fucking cute and makes me feel better about this scene and their fractured relationship in Breaking bad.
You guys are so good with the observations about this scene. I'd like to add he doesn't want to be lonely as he will be left alone with his thoughts, even finding cooking meth takes mind off things
Jesse grew up with parents that pushed him away, which is probably why he fell so deep into addiction too. He saw a father figure in Walt, which was the worst thing to happen considering what kind of person Walt was. That also makes the ending of the show a bittersweet good ending, considering he made it out in El Camino. Though the trauma stays.
Just realized this scene is really similar to the one in the end of the series. When jesse breaks out crying. Same point of view, driving and the perfectly cut scream.
Sometimes we act like Walter. When a friend or family member just needs company, but we prefer to be alone, I don't understand why Walter did this, perhaps he wanted anonymity, but I can't help but think that at various times in my life, I acted similarly.
Walt is actually being smart here, he views Jesse as an apprentice and values their business while Jesse views it as a friendship. Walt does care about Jesse but he wants to protect his business so being seen in public could damage their security and raise eyebrows.
@@TheRealForgetfulElephantthey did it once when they got the RV working after getting stranded (As seen in El Camino) then they did it again When Jesse asks Walt to get a beer with him, which was really a private discussion on Combo’s murderers; so at least twice
@@Cyber_user-4198 Plus around the time of the gus thing they met to have beers to discuss the ricin i think AND they met at gus's restaurant Like I said this explanation doesn't make sense. Walt was an asshole
I feel like I'm walter white saying no is the perfect example of what social anxiety. You say no to continuing social interaction because you feel a deep sense of irrelevancy and end up wondering to yourself if you're a bad person. And when you come home and you're left with nothing, you feel like Jesse, mindlessly indulging in nonsense and it makes you sick to the stomach.
This is one of the saddest scenes in the entire show probably because I felt like Jesse watching this the first time I saw it still feel like him right now.
i feel like walter HIMSELF isn't really a bad person. its just the real unluckiness (if thats a word) to be put in the situation where you have terminal cancer, and have been bullied for so many years. thats what transformed water into a bad person bcs of all the pressure, and i guess he just couldnt take it anymore.
This scene hits me so hard every time because it breaks my heart imagining how lost and lonely Jesse must have been feeling. I know it's only a show, but the creators of this show did an amazing job at at capturing raw human emotion (pain) and how vulnerable we can really be when we're not at our best.
This scene made me so sad, I know it would have probably would have ruined the vibe of the episode but it would have made me so happy to see Walt say yes and they go karting together. When I was watching I was kind of expecting Walt to say yes cause it had been a while in the show since they got time to actually talk and hang out but when he said no it really set the tone for what Walt really thinks of Jesse.
This is the pinnacle of this franchise really. In a vacuum (and in context tbh) it's hilarious. But it is also one of the saddest scenes ever shown on t.v.
By the end of this show you realize that Walter and Heisenberg really were two different people: in the bottom of his heart, Walt cared for Jesse, for his family and for Hank, but, with time, Heisenberg completely took over and killed Walter, and that’s cause Walter was just a weak, peaceful man who would’ve not hurt a soul. When Walter found out about his cancer, Heisenberg was born, because Walter needed strength to get as much money as possible for his family before dying; but, by the time his cancer surprisingly shrank, Heisenberg was already too strong to just go away and disappear, so he took over Walter’s life more and more to the point where he couldn’t care less about Jesse or his family. Walter’s personality comes out only when he realizes that Heisenberg turned him into a monster, but it’s already too late to fix that
That's a really fanciful way of looking at it, tbh. The show really shows a manifestation of insecurity and evil that was within Walt from the beginning. This wasn't some spontaneous personality that took over Walt, it was there, but he didn't have the awareness and moral compass to overcome it. Using Heisenberg as a reason for Walt to act cold is simply a cop-out. If you remember why Walt left Greymatter, you would know that Walt already possessed an incredibly large ego that eventually was his downfall, and it was all because of him, not some alter ego like Heisenberg. Also, I believe Heisenberg actually revealed who Walt really was, and it wasn't just an alter-ego.
Не согласен, что Гейзенберг убил Уолтера. Уолтер готов был отдать все деньги, чтоб спасти Хэнка, Уолтер с помощью друзей Джесси перед перестрелкой с бандой Джека сделал всё возможное, чтобы его деньги были переданы Уолтеру-младшему. Так что человеческое в нём осталось до финала
Walter had a family who loved him, and friends who cared about him. Jesse had pretty much nobody and actually asked Walter, probably his best friend at the time, to spend time outside of their job. But Walter was just above it all. Gives you another reason to hate Walter.
He's not a saint, makes him more a human, but tbh in the end he had the courage to live on, even hunted like a animal, while Walt made him go through hell 2 times and then died like a coward
Walt is smart enough to know that Gus would think they were planning something. I think walt thought going to the go karts was a bad code message to speak to him in private. When walt is asked you can see him look around the room for a quick second at the cameras in the room. If not for the big situation they were in, he would have went. Way too dangerous to go to 'go karts' or actual go karts
yeah, and tbf, jesse should invited him to somewhere else(bar, restraunt) it's seems a bit goofy to invite a 50 yo man with his family, to a go karting
I do think Walt cares about Jesse in his own way. A sort of narcissistic, possessive way. He treats Jesse a bit like a puppy, and even when he became the “problem dog” in his life, Walt still eventually ended up saving and freeing Jesse from imprisonment. Walt’s love for Jesse seems to, like most things, revolve around himself. Sometimes I feel like Walk loves Jesse just because Jesse is *his*. While never particularly caring for anything specific to Jesse as a person, Walt seems to be attached to the concept of Jesse: *his* partner, the boy who looks up to *him*, goes to *him* for guidance, and needs *him* to be protected. Kinda like the way Walt feels about his family. *His* family. And he approaches these people often with himself as the filter. He doesn’t see the strong, confident individual in Flynn, nor did he ever try to empathize and consider for the amount of worry Skylar had for him (back when she still loved him). So when Jesse asks him to go go-karting, he’s probably thinking: “i dont like go-karting. What could I possibly gain from going?” Unable to pick up that what Jesse really needed was just his presence.
Omg almost cried because of this. Between Jesse's life going downhill since he met Walter and Walter turning his back on Jesse when he's in one of his worst moments of his life is so sad. Plus the fact that Walter was like a father figure or a mentor to him
Nah but Jesse was so alone throughout this whole ordeal. He only interacts with like four or five other people his own age in the whole show, most of whome die or stop getting scenes. His most consistant companion is an old man who flips between degrading him, manipulating him, and consoling him on a dime. By the end of his drug dealing carear he doesnt even want the money because he has like nothing to really spend it on. He's just going through the motions. Poor Jess.
Bro this just reminds me of when I was younger only 6,7 or 8years ago that I stopped doing the things I used to do with my brother. Man he wanted me to play catch so bad and I just wouldn’t budge. Rlly made a mistake just went downhill from there. Sorry lil bro
This reminds me of Saul/Jimmy's time machine moment. Where if Jimmy had a heart to heart talk with his brother, they both could have understood each other more and would most likely have resulted in the prevention of many tragedies from happening down the line. Maybe things could have been a lot different had he chosen to go with him.
