No One Believed His Story: The Strange Case of Ashley Fallis 

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@@JustThoughtLounge thank you for all the work you put into telling our story as factually as you can!!

Thanks for update. So you live with Tom? Is that what you mean when you say your father?

I am so glad that you’re doing well. All that I could think of after hearing this story was what a tragedy it was and I hoped that the survivors were doing ok.

Wow! 😳What are the chances of getting a response from someone directly related to the content.🤔 If this is "real," I wish you the very best standing with your shadow and not the sins of parents. Be well.

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My mom killed herself, but my dad always said she died from epilepsy.. I accidentally found out when I was 15, because I found her death certificate.. 15 is not at all a good time to find that out... I spent many years angry and confused.. I felt like I wasn't good enough to live for.. I was only 3 at the time, so I have no memories of her.. I'm 58 now, and it took me until my early 50's to realize it was not my fault.. She missed out on 3 amazing grandchildren and 2 beautiful great grandchildren.. Each time that my children turned 3, I would look at their faces and wonder how she could do that.. I've finally forgiven her and I am thankful for all that I have 😊

Other people tell them if you don’t - far worse

@@siliconesal I agree! Nobody teaches us what to say! The truth is better, because there are damaging consequences. Truth is the best.

​@@cherylspeares7003wow I was almost 4 when my dad shot himself. I too thought it was my fault and how could my daddy look at me and my 7 year old brother and do such a thing..now that I'm 39 years of age with children of my own and struggling with anxiety and depression I now understand he didn't do that to us, he just didn't see another solution in that moment. I pray that your lifted up by your babies like I am. If it wasn't for your mom and my dad we wouldn't have our beautiful children. They were lost but we know where we're going. 💛

It’s mind blowing

So sad.. all around 😢.

Those indications demonstrate a not so rational and more of a self centered or narcissistic behavior, and then adding substance abuse to that.

Low IQ and mental illness at it again.

Yes, obviously not a good idea 👍... Those dear children, that's all I can think of. 🥲

The husband shot her, he was waiting in the bedroom

That’s why you should always get a lawyer and not talk to the police. Guilty or innocent, witness or suspect, get a lawyer and don’t talk to the police without one.

I Totally Agree... Especially if the cops​ think it was murder!!!@@erinjade86

Because of his reaction, I totally believe in his innocence. His 911 call, his adamant demands to test his hands for GSR, his grief at hearing of her passing... He seems legit to me. Poor guy. Whole thing is tragic. Lesson here- NEVER talk to police without a lawyer, guilty or innocent.

I have lost alot of faith in the psychiatric /psychology professions. Mostly because they apoear to think theyre infallible. I look at their founders. Freud Jung etc. Its a very questionable science open to numerous errors.

​@@kimberini6465 No guilty person would ever insist on being tested for GSR. It's the literal smoking gun, so often we see them try to wipe their hands off or hide their hands. No way

They're encouraged to push ppl over the edge so they rack I p more charges, and it makes for a more fun and entertaining arrest. It's totally f'd up

And she has clearly never shaved her chest...it itches! 🤣

she was helping one of her own

@wcrimeusa bs she was protecting one of her own

40 witnesses, 400 hours of gunshot forensics etc. Such a waste of resources. They should've been able to establish the truth faster. As for the interview its only aimed at 1 objective, as if their mind is already made up.

Maybe it is just a huge confusing mess and everything is misconstrud?

Kind of reminded me of when I was in kindergarten, and the teacher would tell a pupil something in their ear, and that pupil/student had to pass it to the next person, and so on and so forth down the line, and what ended up being stated out loud by the final person was nowhere near what the teacher had told the first student to begin with. Anyhow, don't know that that's really relevant to what you had stated or not, but that 16-year-old was under the influence at the time, so that kind of explains her part. I have no idea how Nick could have heard Tom telling his parents what he supposedly did while Tom was inside on the phone w/them with, presumably, the doors closed being wintertime in CO. And that detective -- was it? --- well, no wonder he ended up getting canned. None of them were credible.

@@loveforeignaccents​​⁠ Exactly this!! I was actually thinking the same… imagining myself in the game of telephone. Also, like, we know witness testimony is often unreliable, even if it’s unintentionally so. So I was thinking like you about the 16-year-old late at night on NYE! Critical thinking!! Also, I’m sad for those grieving parents… but blaming their daughter’s mental illness entirely on another person? Is that how she lost her job too? I hope those children are okay.

@@freespiritchristina Yeah, it was mentioned she lost her job as the respiratory (I believe it was) therapist due to being aggressive. Doesn't seem like the two would even go hand in hand. EDIT: She was actually let go due to insubordination but was deemed aggressive as well. I was going through part of the video again. Sorry for the initial mix-up.

maybe they didnt like him had it in for him from the past over things like music too loud or parking the car outside their house payback time

His reaction on the call was extremely telling.

He killed her , no doubt in my mind , just him asking to check for GSR is telling and I've actually seen that before when a cop shot and killed his wife , no doubt at all he killed her , maybe he really didn't want her dead but he did kill her.

Yeah the 911 call told me all I needed to know about him.

He seemed extremely fake and in a rage

​@@MADNESS084 fake as can be

Mental illness, stress, meds, alcohol, and guns are a toxic mix. RIP

Don’t forget tho ads are a good thing for hard working youtubers. Its the best way they get paid!! And of course we want that. Just skip them in the videos. But overall yes I agree with you. He’s the shit

Yessss I agree

Allie Elise is good if you haven’t seen her channels you should look them up she has a few different channels.

@@juicymullet585 ah thank you I gotta check it out

Thanks Yani! Glad you (eventually) gave us a try 🙂. Good to have you here.

His channel is the best!

Shame it was such an old & extensively covered case this time. Having a flat affect is not synonymous with professionalism when it comes to storytelling. This channel isn't too bad tho if it would keep it's focus on less familiar cases

the music video is the absolute best❤

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Yep.

lots and lots like jelly tots

When you brainwash people to believe in invisible deities and supernatural entities, reduce their education systems down to mere babysitting facilities, and bombard them with media opinions and speculations packaged as "facts", you effectively destroy much of their ability to apply rational critical thinking in any scenario. Unreliable witnesses are probably the rule rather than the exception.

True, and that witness looked a bit sketchy…

Just the process is persecution.

On the other hand, if you think a guy just shot his wife in the head, and she's in the hospital fighting for her life, would you let him near her? The cops really had no choice if they truly thought he might be guilty. Let him go to the hospital and maybe finish the job? It's tragic, yes, but I understand their position as well.

It's not their job to decide if his guilty or not or make any assumptions! They could have accompanied him for safety reasons! This is no way to handle an investigation! ​@@Myrdden71

@@Myrdden71right, idk what these people expect her to do?? cops are trained to be aggressive towards criminals and i see it all the time so why’s it different now

I'm sorry but there's not a chance he's innocent , he may not have really wanted her dead but he did kill her , not any doubt in my mind . I watch true crime almost everyday and many 911 calls , that was an act too .

@@aleisaetheridge8682 Hope you're never on a jury, lol. Probably won't be, nor will I. I think they sense I'm anxious to be on one. Ah well.

lol. Same here.

Yep same

i mean i work in the building trade also get cuts and bruises and i love gardening also get scratches of bushes and vines in the summer also every night

I actually had shaved my forearms in the past and had incessant itching.

@@loveforeignaccents you basically need to bathe in calamine lotion.

Who said anything about drugs? Did I miss that part?? Her parents were going outside to smoke a cigarette, and Ashley apparently was a non-smoker.

@@loveforeignaccents You did miss something. The weed issue is highlighted more in other content related to this case. Husband didn’t want wife doing illegal drugs, at least partially because it would put his job at risk. Mother has the nerve to say “don’t use the F word, there are children in the house,” and then encourages the mother of some of those children to use a substance that can cause psychosis (knowing full well she is on prescription drugs, and using alcohol, and has access to a gun, with a family history of suicide?!) Maybe the husband was controlling, maybe he killed his wife, but those in-laws were playing with fire, because they like to get high with their children? I can imagine them really wishing the husband had committed murder to reduce the shame they might feel if they realized their daughter needed parents not stoner buddies.

@@enterchannelname4542 Yeah, I actually went back and watched part of his interrogation again last night and heard him stating something along the lines of she doesn't need to be getting high; also read the info regarding that online. You're right in what you say about her mom/parents. I do believe she was the one who took herself out though. Anyhow, thanks for the reply and enjoy the rest of your day!!

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Seriously 🤢

Yeah, sounded like she was confronting her own boyfriend.

Huh? In what way?

Horrible person that was being interrogated...

@@VioletJoy are you daft? There was no GSR or blood splatter on his hands or clothing. So how is he going to fire a gun and not leave any GSR on his hands, body, or clothing? Prosecutor said he wrestled for the gun and it went off killing her. Then where's the GSR? Why did she have GSR on her hands and not him? I swear you people have shoe sized IQ. Bet you believe he was guilty right away because he's a man.

Yeah, I commented/replied to someone else many comments below in regards to that. No way someone should end up in debt paying for defense attorneys after they have been acquitted of the crime with which they have been charged!

A big part of me feels that they should have to pay regardless. Justice should not be pay-to-play.

100%

He certainly may have. I didn't even think of that. Hope he -- and of course the children -- are doing well these days.

“Better to live in a desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife”

winston churchill once said never trust an expert kust because he is an expert does not mean he is right its just his opion i mean how many expert were on alex murdaughs trial they cant all be right

And the bad guys get off way too often this way as well...

That 911 call sounds real don’t think he was acting 🤷🏽‍♀️

no way he was acting that was pure terror@@tmcurly

​@@tmcurlyAgreed

My suspicion is that her parents knew about her mental health issues and pressured her into the tube tying for her own stability. She started to have phantom pregnancies, lifting her husbands hopes for more kids.

@@oliviatree I too wondered about phantom pregnancies, it seemed none were verified by a physician, which would be my first stop, especially if I was understanding I could not have a baby. Such a sad situation all the way around.

@@dellahicks7231 Tubal ligations aren't a guarantee that one won't get pregnant.

@@loveforeignaccents I understand that. However if the assumption was, and she likely would have been told by her physician that the chances of her becoming pregnant were far lower with the surgery, then that would be enough to have me back to that physician if I thought I was pregnant.

@@dellahicks7231 Maybe the doc appointment was on the books, but she ended up losing the baby before then. Also it was stated this was her third pregnancy/miscarriage in nine months, so definitely not her first time becoming pregnant after having that procedure.

Yes I agree. I appreciate that he gave all information relevant to the case, where others will leave parts out if it doesn't fit their idea of what they think happened. All information should be given regardless of your own thoughts on the case.

Thanks Frank! Glad they’re showing you some love too…it is a great song you put together 🙂

Your comment is a breath of fresh air sweeping this foul stream of judgement and opinions.

The only one thinking of the kids❤❤❤

Why 42? Are you a victim?

They are. One commented here bout it

@@InspektoraDeFrutaswhat does that comment even mean

I agree. The only evidence that's questionable to me is Ashley having GSR on both of her hands

I think he is guilty, but the case has serious problems. Specifically, everyone is lying.

The evidence says he’s innocent

I don't understand how it went to trial without any forensic evidence in the prosecutions favor

@@geraldstewart2556 I could see how she would hold the gun to her head with both. One on the trigger the other aiming the muzzle. That kid didn’t sit right with me. Something off about his testimony. This is one you make a decision and just pray to God you’re not letting a murderer walk free. I did go not guilty though.

I think he drove her to her death. The arguing and everything else going on after the party could have led her to kill herself. He’s also lying that there was no argument. And making a comment about which neighbor heard the argument.

@@patricknegro5071these neighbors wasn't very reliable tho. there were only three neighbors claimed to hear their argument, the lady didn't dare to repeat again under oath, the guy was drunk and his girlfriend heard different thing from him, they conflicted themselves. and the cop who claimed to hear him said "I killed my wife" was 100% lying because Tom himself even said his wife was still breathing when under interrogation, so there was zero chance he would say he killed his wife earlier because he knew she was still alive when the medic came, that's why I knew that cop made it up. none of these witnesses were reliable tbh. it's understandable when he asked "which neighbor" because the neighbor just made it up, it would make him feel like they resented him with a lie and he would definitely wanted to confront the one who said it, that's normal reaction when you hear false accusations/rumors about you tho, especially he's also a quick-tempered person

How about her daughter not being dead 😢

I was thinking the same thing. And a side note, those are his kids…it he is ok with dropping the f bomb, that is what it is. Grandparents seem controlling

​@@bettie2803 The two girls were from a previous marriage. They were not his own daughters. And if a parent uses the f word in front of their kids, most reasonable people would agree s/he's in the wrong.

That’s how I saw it. Most certainly there was a reasonable doubt. I had no doubt about what the jury was going to come back with

they think the baby will bring them together i guess people have been doing that since time began

There was some un dx serious illness here. Often procreation is the irrational diversion.

Seinfeld had an entire episode about the chest shaving!!!!

Yes, let's encourage all YT presenters who resist.

Agreed I cant watch the stock pics

Right? Him, the sincerity, detailed information, hard work, and dedication he puts forward with getting these tragic cases out to his supporters are unmatched. He's such an underrated gem to the TC community. I'm forever grateful ❤🫶🏾🙏🏾💐

Exactly, people never appear to ask for a lawyer on these shows. They just start talking🤦🏾‍♀️

If you're guilty get a lawyer. If you're innocent get two.

If you're guilty confess and get behind bars asap. Much simpler for everyone.

Newton gets a wild look in his eyes whenever we bring out the catnip…he says thank you very much!

Appreciate it 🙂

Agree

Exactly what I thought. What a waste of taxpayers' money. After watching so many interrogations of guilty people, I was leaning toward innocent within the first few moments of his. If he is guilty, he's amazing at getting away with it. Not one bit of evidence that I heard pointed to anything other than suicide. I feel for the family and their grief, it is hard to accept sometimes, but with the family's history of mental illness and suicide I find it to be the more probable solution.

Not saying he is innocent, but sometimes families are in denial as well.

That 911 call was very authentic. My girlfriend OD'd and I sounded just like him during my call. I was in turmoil so was he.

It’s extremely disturbing.

I know a family with the last name Cuntrip 😅

Gourd, i know! Yikes 🫣🍆 (his name wasn’t Harry, at least)

Unfortunately for the logic, Fallis isn't how the other word is spelled.

@@louisquatorze9280 I know it’s “phallus”, but I didn’t know that in high school! A friend actually tricked me in 9th grade with that word 😂

@@andalistark5416 😂

I don't think there was any miscarriage. Phantom pregnancies seem the most likely condition here.

@@oliviatree Well, we know she had taken at least one at-home pregnancy test, which turned out positive... I would think those are pretty accurate, although I would have taken two just to be sure after having had a tubal ligation. And it was stated she indeed had three miscarriages, and that her tubal ligation was basically a failure because it didn't completely take successfully. Even if it had, one could still get pregnant, albeit rare.

I agree. I worked at a Nursing Home and just my simple observation, I thought seroquel made people more agitated.

Plus she was high and drunk, potentially removing any inhibitions.

Yes! I’m surprised there wasn’t more emphasis on that. Stopping psych meds, ESPECIALLY suddenly stopping them, is very dangerous. It can cause severe adverse reactions. There are thousands upon thousands of testimonials of people online, withdrawing from their psych meds. These symptoms can persist for YEARS!

Unfortunately, these psychological drugs are just handed out like candy. No blood work or brain scan, just take a bunch of pills.

The video of the rapper is super cool 😎 ❤

No, not body camera at that time.

2011, body cams wasn't even used until after the BLM riots in Ferguson late summer 2014. It was 2016 when it started becoming more widespread. What is body cam going to do anyways against witnesses? Witness can lie. People don't have photographic memory, the human brain remember things in pieces, and the mind fill in the blanks. Driving in your own neighborhood, you wouldn't even notice a new stop sign because the way memory works. It's in pieces so it'll skip a new sign. It's why you zone out when you're driving long roads that you frequently drive. It's the total opposite driving in a new city, our brain gets overwhelmed driving in a new city by taking in new images.

i mean i cant remember what i did an hour ago, if you ask the average person to tell you what you were wearing yesterday they wouldbnt have a clue

thats why witnesses are so unreliable

​@@DroneStrike1776"What is a bodycam going to do against witnesses?" Well, obviously it may be used to either refute or corroborate witness accounts. If the cop, who said the hubby yelled that he shot his wife, had been wearing a bodycam, there might be video evidence to support that or clarify that he wasn't actually yelling that. Witnesses can lie, or they may just be mistaken. That's what bodycams can do.

Really Randall? That’s great that we could be your gateway 🙂. The closest we have to a podcast right now are the live streams I put on every Wednesday and Saturday. We hang out, do some editing and just chat. Check out our memberships if you’re interested 👍🏻

@@JustThoughtLounge I thought you indeed had podcasts per this on one of your community tabs: "If anyone is tired of seeing my face and is interested in an audio only format of JTL then I have some great news. We have most of our back catalogue already released across multiple streaming services, with new episodes being released weekly...and the best news is that I've been told my voice is great at putting people to sleep (good news for you, not so much for me)...

@@loveforeignaccents that’s the audio track from our existing RU-vid videos, which we’ve made available on audio sites. I guess assumed that Randall was asking for new / different podcasts rather than our YT stuff…maybe I was wrong though so thanks for clarifying for him 👍🏻

What music video?

Yeah, it seems like maybe a two hour training course, very simple, could cover the basics of what to do at a crime scene, at least the most important things like, bagging the hands in a gunshot situation. However the evidence shows that she had gunshot residue on her hands, and he did not. How did she get the gunshot residue on her hands?

@@steveperreira5850 he could have rubbed his hands on hers and washed his hands?

Corruption.

​@Gurl-5150 always a conspiracy. Flat earth. Fake moon landings. Time to grow up kiddo 😊

As much as the cops were horrible at the investigation… the dude was so innocent it’s as if he was a child. Gsr aside… they claimed she was fighting him off but nothing under her fingernails. All they had was that he was upset because the parents wouldn’t take a hint and leave when it was time. Which I would be mad too and tell them to leave. Even after death they keep over stepping in that man’s life.

No graphic images. Just a version of the Pi symbol!

There’s no set response to anything that points to guilt or innocence. Please stop 😂

Actually,​@Chellz801 how innocent vs guilty people respond to accusations is a hugely studied factor. Once the person's baseline behaviour is understood, the verbal and non-verbal language they use in their denial can be very useful data. Not in a court of law, but in social sciences.

@@Chellz801 They’re free to an opinion here! So unnecessary to belittle them! Especially because… you’re incorrect. Ask anyone in Law Enforcement or read about it. Most innocent people WILL express disbelief, surprise and anger when they’re falsely accused. They’ll also DENY the accusation. Anger is a normal reaction when you feel threatened. When you’re wrongly accused, it’s a direct attack of your character… it’ll evoke a strong response. This person is right.

@@Chellz801 Rude. They were just commenting on their opinion

I've watched hundreds of interrogations as I'm sure a lot of people here have. I can't recall a single person reacting like this in an interrogation that ended up being guilty.

Not only in denial but if they new what she was dealing with l. Why in the world would they want to get high with their daughter

They are her flying monkeys.

@@Monalisa0622 My thoughts exactly. She was probably going to end up doing this eventually anyway, but getting her high is probably what sped things up.

blood is thicker than water

Narcissists don't kill themselves, they just live in their nightmare and make life a nightmore for everyone else.

Well, the "conclusion" was written in stone with that not guilty verdict and no actual evidence to the contrary.

he did ask them to wipe jis hands and no gis was found nor no dna its possbile she did shoot herself in that case not guilty@@loveforeignaccents

Um, yeah... like my comment implied.

Those witnesses for the prosecution were such laughable characters. Guess the prosecution team thought it was better to stand on a wobbly leg than show none!

Called the police?? Should have.

This happened on a new years eve. Everybody was drunk stoned whatever. Nightmare to investigate. And this trainwreck couple? Hard to say who were the most intoxicated.

@@ritawallace-reed7500 back then police didn't come out for domestic abuse.

@@ritawallace-reed7500 ha. Back then the police did not involve themselves in what they called ‘a domestic’ A man could literally batter his wife half to death and police would do nothing because……‘it’s just a domestic’ 😖

Yes it did. There’s usually something off about the 911 calls made by the guilty. Plus, his denials in the initial interrogation were forceful and non wavering. These aren’t always signs of innocence (some people are very good actors), but people who feel a strong need to explain away things in interrogations create a lot of red flags. He wasn’t doing that at all. Also, when he broke down after hearing that she died, that seemed very genuine too.

It did and it was IMMEDIATELY! Her parents barely left!

That’s theatre… I found my wife of 38 years seemingly lifeless body after suicide attempt. It was overwhelming but you keep it together because being hysterical delays help. That’s poor acting

​@@sryoungreneveryone acts differently, and it's not really in your control unless you have had training. Due to childhood trauma and a drama queen mother, I am also very calm in a crisis, but my sister gets hysterical. That man was hurting. I am sorry for your traumatic experience, there are no winners when mental health issues are involved.

I thought the opposite, that it sounded so fake. I don't think we can go by it either way, as people react differently under the same circumstances. I think the jury got it right, and it was a terrible tragedy all around for everyone.

Make sure you check out Franks channel too!

Really it’s an OK song. But rap music is so simplistic. I think any moron can produce it. Really it’s an impressive music style. It’s more like talking in rhymes, children easily can do it. I’m a country music fan and most of country music is exactly the same way, so simplistic, sometimes even worse than rap

I immediately formed that conclusion too, after seeing his vehement denial when he was accused by the interrogator

Absolutely

Wow. I guess. LOL.

So agree. This mother's intrusiveness into the daughter's life most likely contributed to her instabilities and the problems in the marriage.

thats why i stay single there is no pleasing them@@graciegolden2290

Flying monkeys don't care.

I’ve been taking clonazepam long term. I have severe anxiety.

I’ve been on it for 3 decades. Great drug.

Please don't denigrate those who have mental issues. Having struggled for decades with mental illness, it is always a struggle when I have to refill my meds. I would much rather not have to take them, but the one time I was taken off of them, I was prepared to murder or take my own life. I realized then the incredible benefit medication was in my life. I've seen myself on both sides, and am ashamed of the HELL I've put my family through. Please don't judge others when you know NOTHING about dealing with mental illness.