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No such thing as an average student 

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The modern K-12 school system is largely centered around the assumption that every student learns and masters material the exact same way. This has a dire impact on the potential of students.
Since the early 1900s, the American education system has operated like a factory in the Industrial Age, from bells that essentially notify children when to change “shifts,” to top-down management structures.
Stand Together partner, Todd Rose - a former Harvard professor, author, and co-founder of a think tank called Populace - is dedicated to reforming education by embracing individuality, ensuring no more students get left behind. Sign up to learn more about the innovators making education customized for every student. bit.ly/3hk2aZ9

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@freethink
@freethink 3 года назад
Fascinating interview!
@blackshadow1games21
@blackshadow1games21 3 года назад
How do you have no replies lol
@kushalsubedi1989
@kushalsubedi1989 3 года назад
You pulled me here
@meinland4439
@meinland4439 3 года назад
like i've been saying! i think our education system focuses too much on tests and just trying to pass. honestly, no student is really learning to "learn," everyone is just "learning" to pass a stupid test so that they can move on to the next one and eventually get a degree to have *some* opportunity of succeeding in life. i think true intelligence is determined on how someone tackles a problem, how they analyze it, how they think of it, and eventually how they find a creative and unique solution to it. if i ever end up being in a position of power this is what i would mainly focus on, developing problem solving skills that apply directly to real life.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the video. Make sure to subscribe to our channel to learn more about our vision for change and the need to reimagine America's education system.
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
We need standardized testing, but we need it to measure what has been learned.
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
@The Broken Tower Children should be given standardized tests when they enter preschool to determine their needs. As early as practical all students should be given a personality test and an IQ test. The results should be used to place them into class rooms according to learning style and innate ability. Students should be taught a standardized curriculum and given standardized tests on the subject matter at standardized benchmarks. Including a standardized test at the end of a grade level. Why do teachers keep making their own lesson plans? Standardize them. Standardized tests remove the subjectivity from grading. Pass or fail. No points for being "special".
@wesleyheitz8359
@wesleyheitz8359 3 года назад
@@psychicspy so you didn't really comprehend what the video was about. All your idea would do is separate kids into more of "smart and dumb" classes and doesn't actually address the issues. The video was saying that there is no one size fits all approach and there needs to be major flexibility for each individual. Your idea would just lump a few groups of kids together when that wouldn't solve the problem at all. The standardized curriculum would just become an "average" for each group that you've defined. I think standardized testing is a stupid way of determining intelligence. Especially doing that at the kindergarten age. Some kids have more trouble sitting still for that long. Some kids might have much higher levels of anxiety. also what would you be testing them on? Kids at that age wouldn't have developed a lot of problem solving skills and obviously haven't learned basic math and English yet. In the us there are actually standardized curriculums depending on the state. This guy is from the states. Your idea is the opposite of flexible. It lumps kids together in the same way the system basically already does. A test in kindergarten should not determine how well a child does in the rest of your life.
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
@@wesleyheitz8359 I went to high school with a girl who believed that rocks grew into mountains. When asked why she believed that, "Well, were else would they come from?" was her response. Though cute as a button and sweet as honey, she belonged in the "special" class. You should not expect highly gifted students to reach their full potential sitting in a classroom with my very blonde friend listening to a teacher struggling to teach Earth science at a level that will not be over her head, but obviously was. Separating students into groups according to their innate abilities is the very opposite of "one size fits all". The only thing that could bring a student closer to a tailor made curriculum would be self-paced individualized computer based learning. Standardized tests are the only way to ensure that everyone is held to the same standards. The only way to encourage meritocracy. The problem with standardized tests is that educators teach to the test in an attempt to raise the scores of less capable students. They should instead teach to the curriculum and the test should measure how well the students absorbed and understand the curriculum.
@ishav-mariejacksonreignx2805
@ishav-mariejacksonreignx2805 3 года назад
"there is no such thing as average" what a giant this man is
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
An average is simply an expression of a relationship between discrete units and a set (or sets) of discrete units.
@kris4637
@kris4637 3 года назад
I've been saying this for a long time! Schools focus too much on remembering and not on understanding.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Focusing on individuality is also key. If you are interested in reimagining the education system, make sure to subscribe to our channel.
@Kramitall
@Kramitall 3 года назад
Okay, at first I was skeptical. I was thinking this was going to be some ode to charter schools or private schools. Turns out, it was informative and reasoned.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We're glad you gave it a chance and found it compelling! Consider subscribing to our channel for similar content. You can also learn more about our vision for change here: standtogether.org/issues/transforming-education-for-all/
@mofaiz17
@mofaiz17 3 года назад
One of the best videos on RU-vid ever ever!!!!
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Glad you're excited, Mohammad! Make sure you're subscribed to our channel and learn more about our vision of change here: standtogether.org/the-education-system-is-outdated/
@aumbhatt5339
@aumbhatt5339 3 года назад
This needs to get viral as soon as possible.....
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We're excited to hear your enthusiasm for Todd's interview. Make sure you're subscribed to our channel and visit standtogether.org/the-education-system-is-outdated/ to stay engaged in this important conversation.
@benjaminjiin8432
@benjaminjiin8432 3 года назад
As a 6 year old, when my teacher caught me absorbed in studying, in that moment she snuck me a birthday size slice of chocolate cake. Her action forevermore attached sweetness to the action of study and not to the competitiveness and right answer or regurgitated answer. Many many years later i would eat icecream while studying ancient history, philosophy and Chinese characters. The action of studying got me to the deep right or more right answers which took time and effort. These deep right answers enabled me to ask the right questions. That teacher helped to make the effort palatable. That teacher and other teachers in that school also taught us how to ask the right questions. They would say "now your are probably thinking this question," as they told a story. A big thank you to: Landow Yeshiva
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We just absolutely LOVE to hear about great teachers!! It's so great that you had that experience - and who doesn't love a little chocolate cake as reinforcement as well. :)
@xPressOStartx
@xPressOStartx 3 года назад
So true, so good. Had this same idea and argument in my head since i was j high school. It never truly allows you to reach your potential unless you fit the way it works.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
It sounds like you're aligned with our mission to see individuality embraced in education. Make sure you subscribe to our channel to stay engaged in this important conversation.
@adriangaleron3293
@adriangaleron3293 3 года назад
Amazing interview and explanations. Sadly, schools are not meant to people to learn there, but to make kids get used to make repetitive tasks and, the most important for this system, "listen, repeat andshut up". Smart people find the way to change the things they dont like, and thats a big threat for this system. Im talking from the point of view of a spanyard, probably the most corrupt country in europe. And even here, I think the education system is sightly better than in the US. When I was a kid there was not a single day headed to school without saying "hope the school is totally burned". The fun fact is that i love to learn. (Btw, I didn't learn english at school) Hope this initiative and the channel gets more attention. Greetings from spain.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your perspective! Glad you share our concerns with the education system. Embracing individuality will be the key to successfully reimagining education. Make sure to subscribe to our channel to stay up to date. You can also learn more about our vision for change here: standtogether.org/issues/transforming-education-for-all/
@TobyHardtospell
@TobyHardtospell 3 года назад
Really interesting approach. Would love to see a school that operates with these principles.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We're happy you liked Todd's interview! Make sure to subscribe to our channel and learn more here: standtogether.org/the-education-system-is-outdated/
@eugh6854
@eugh6854 3 года назад
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@frank_calvert
@frank_calvert 3 года назад
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@jocksmachina7759
@jocksmachina7759 3 года назад
@@StandTogetherCC Tried to sign up but I am from Canada and couldn't fill out the forms because it needs a ZIP code. I am an avid reader of ancient greek philosophy and they had fascinating things to say about education. I recommend diving into that literature if you have not already! I would love to learn more about this group and your work. Hopefully you come to the rest of the world soon!
@zuleimamiranda6066
@zuleimamiranda6066 3 года назад
Montessori schools need to be the néw public education system
@anyariv
@anyariv 3 года назад
“Human potential is nowhere near as limited as the systems we’ve put in place assume” - couldn’t have said it better. What are the educational centers available that are disrupting the standard school institutions?
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We're working to reimagine the system as a whole. Check us out: standtogether.org/issues/transforming-education-for-all/
@go1den_berry
@go1den_berry 3 года назад
I was a person who the education system failed. Not because I failed all the tests. I aced those without studying. Without working for anything. What I learned from the education system is that I could get by with "just enough" without even trying. And oh my lord, how that's such a bad takeaway that I'm spending years trying to recover from these things that were established early childhood. I want to see the system change for people like me too. So they don't have this massive hurdle as soon as they exit high school.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story. We are seeking to reimagine the system. Make sure to subscribe to our channel!
@theexistence193
@theexistence193 Год назад
I really appreciate this. All individuals are unique and have the potential to lead a life of great efforts. If you give them the opportunity, you’ll see the light of humanity shining. Because they were given the chance to shine; to show the world their gift of life.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC Год назад
👏👏 Self actualization - the recognition that people live lives of meaning and contribution when they continually discover, develop, and apply their unique gifts - is one of the core principles we seek to further in our society.
@Johennessy
@Johennessy 3 года назад
There is so much truth in those couples of minutes.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We're glad you enjoyed the video! Make sure to visit standtogether.org/the-education-system-is-outdated/ to stayed engaged in the conversation on reimagining our education system.
@starlet5350
@starlet5350 3 года назад
This is life-changing. I am in senior high school and this is so true.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
That's awesome to hear! Glad the video resonated with you. Make sure to visit standtogether.org/the-education-system-is-outdated/ for more on reimagining America's education system.
@brandonbolton7746
@brandonbolton7746 Год назад
Wow! Thank you for sharing this video. Such an inspiration for myself!
@hashhacker2130
@hashhacker2130 3 года назад
Me after reading the title: unfortunately I'm afraid to say sir that you've clearly been mistaken
@youlaki16
@youlaki16 8 месяцев назад
You are an inspiration and I wish I could work to help you in your cause. Do you need to get into the South African system? I would love to work with you to change education! Well done!!!!
@ishav-mariejacksonreignx2805
@ishav-mariejacksonreignx2805 3 года назад
"it failed him" he was due something and it let him down
@RedRideRVT1R
@RedRideRVT1R 3 года назад
a good and healthy education
@traciesalgado9740
@traciesalgado9740 2 года назад
Is it "Gallop" like is superimposed on the video, or is it "Gallup?" Beyond that, this is EXACTLY what I've been saying for my entire teaching career and it's been my approach in every classroom I've led. I've seen some incredible successes with my students.
@draconariusking8328
@draconariusking8328 3 года назад
Actually the system failed me ironically. As a student I purposefully didn’t pay attention and avoided study believing that if I tried and failed the system would “accurately” label me as stupid. I’d rather get false scores leaving others to believe me inferior and believe whatever I wanted then risk actual proof of incompetence. Even to this day I’d probably be suicidal if I knew for a fact that I’m stupid. There is also a factor of laziness involved as well, finding school boring and immaterial I still sort of believe that A students are really just sheeple.
@sameerhussain2579
@sameerhussain2579 3 года назад
the difference between vocational education and traditional one must be distinguished thoroughly. Not everbody studies to 'study', majority of which have financial priorities.
@animeknowledge5048
@animeknowledge5048 3 года назад
Thank you! Finally someone said it.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We're glad you enjoyed it! Make sure to subscribe to our channel to learn more.
@VikingJay17
@VikingJay17 3 года назад
This is something that parents have always known!!!!!!!! Where can we get started on these new school systems ??
@laurentopel319
@laurentopel319 3 года назад
Are there any schools in particular in Chicago that follow this mindset?
@ethanwilliamson4329
@ethanwilliamson4329 3 года назад
I'm a little bit cautious here. How are they measuring retention? What parts of the brain measured determined non average students? Are their studies repeatable? Just a few questions I think are important to ask. As much as we might have to admit it IQ has been our best predictor of many things for a long time.
@PinqQueen
@PinqQueen 3 года назад
Nobody is on the same level even during life.
@luchochang
@luchochang 3 года назад
Loved this. It makes a lot of sense. How do we implement an education system that makes each student reach their potential.
@benzaverse
@benzaverse 3 года назад
Bravo! Good analysis
@MuhammadIsmail-nn1mt
@MuhammadIsmail-nn1mt 3 года назад
1000% Agreed 👍🏻
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We love to hear it, Muhammad!
@dennisdelgado4276
@dennisdelgado4276 3 года назад
Commenting for the algorithm to get this in front of people’s eyes
@dylan1947
@dylan1947 3 года назад
I’ve been saying this for years- and I’m still in school. Forced to follow a curriculum and it’s only slowing me down.
@gearlabell3059
@gearlabell3059 3 года назад
I 100% agree!! Most children are trained to get a job and pay taxes.
@abhaygoyal2733
@abhaygoyal2733 2 года назад
beautiful video...
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
The brain scan of some random individual should not resemble some computer generated model of the average measurements taken from a population sample. That's not the purpose of a medical average. The purpose is to quickly identify statistical outliers. One example would be someone with a brain tumor. Even a small tumor would immediately show up against an average taken from a sampling of healthy brains. An average student is one who is performing at a level consistent with the averaged performance of his or her peers. The average student at a poorly performing school will be below average at a well performing school. A problem arises when you treat all students as average in a classroom by lumping fast and slow learners together infront of a teacher. It would be more effective to test all students for aptitude and group them by inate capabilities. It's the very reason we have AP classes in the first place.
@w00dyalien
@w00dyalien Год назад
Brilliant!
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC Год назад
Glad you liked it!
@jf6962
@jf6962 3 года назад
Correction... if they fail, they still move on. Thank you no child left behind.
@DavidStavis
@DavidStavis 3 года назад
Oh =/ based on the video I thought they actually had a product. They’re a media company. Weird interview if that wasn’t clear.
@PinqQueen
@PinqQueen 3 года назад
I been screaming this for years
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We love to hear that!
@ea7000
@ea7000 Год назад
All this time i thought i was average Today i found out that i am a GENIUS
@user-xm4hl5zx1l
@user-xm4hl5zx1l 3 года назад
Amazing video !
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Thanks! Embracing individuality in education is vital to setting students up for success. Check out standtogether.org/the-education-system-is-outdated/ to stay engaged in this conversation.
@1oldpcgm
@1oldpcgm Год назад
How do add this to a business structure?
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC Год назад
It's a great question, and it would be really interesting if things came full circle--from business practices being imported into education, negatively, to better educational practices helping improve business! The key principle is self-actualization: people live lives of meaning and contribution when they continually discover, develop, and apply their unique gifts. Perhaps if your company's training follows the factory model, it could be worth reassessing it to see if there are better ways to teach them. Or seeing if there are ways you can enable your employees (or customers) to discover or develop their own unique talents rather than follow a rigid role or use case. There's also a system we developed based on similar principles called Market Based Management which could be helpful: standtogethertrust.org/market-based-management/
@LDQBBQ
@LDQBBQ 6 месяцев назад
If the education system doesn't work, is it intentionally oppressive?
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Год назад
Excellent! Science Fiction books that adults never suggested made learning more interesting than the nitwit teachers. Schools create jobs for people in the education business.
@Moon-ep2bb
@Moon-ep2bb 3 года назад
let the kids teach. they will learn more doing that ✌🏻
@frilink
@frilink 3 года назад
I really wanted to believe this but I'm really average at everything I do, and that's me judging myself.......
@pradeeppahadiya1557
@pradeeppahadiya1557 2 года назад
Plz translate in hindi I don't now english...plz tel me es video ka hindi arth kya hoga...short me koi bta do..
@vaquero7x
@vaquero7x 3 года назад
One of the big problems that the education system has is that it trains students to be corporate slaves instead of helping students become great intellectuals
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
I work with people who have expressed envy of the position that I hold within the company. Whenever someone says to me " man, you have my dream job" I stop and ask them to compare their path through life with my own. In every case their chosen path through life could not have lead them to do my job. While others were playing sports in highschool I was attending a voctech school to learn electronics. While those same people were working fast food jobs after graduation, I was working for an engineering company while attending college. The school system isn't the problem. Students are the problem.
@JaredAllaway
@JaredAllaway 3 года назад
I remember when I was young I thought there were lazy students and hard working students. After being married to my first wife for ten years I realized that at least one person on earth is born with a learning disability and expected to perform like they have no disability. I then assumed that there is probably more than one person like that. The idea that we would distribute basic necessities based off this is not good to put it mildly.
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Every single one of us is unique and deserves a chance to learn how we learn- as individuals!
@psychicspy
@psychicspy 3 года назад
@@StandTogetherCC No one is stopping anyone from learning. It is the individuals responsibility to pursue knowledge.
@lyssasletters3232
@lyssasletters3232 3 года назад
🙌🙌🙌🙌
@Mur-zoUxw
@Mur-zoUxw Год назад
Better to be a depressed lion, elephant or wolf than to be a blindly happy sheep I guess.
@johnthicks8568
@johnthicks8568 3 года назад
Forcing anyone to do anything usually ends in a bad result.
@alphaquinon1688
@alphaquinon1688 3 года назад
Why you use Western Footage? It would be extremely matched with the topics, if you use how Asian learn in school, especially in China
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
We are a US-based foundation, but love your idea!
@florenceofori7930
@florenceofori7930 3 года назад
We almost lost Albert Einstein
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu 3 года назад
How?
@florenceofori7930
@florenceofori7930 3 года назад
@@laaaliiiluuu He did not do well in the standard school and did not think the same way as an average student. Luckily his parents did not damn him but sent him to a school that allowed their students to pursue their interests in their own ways. That was when Einstein began delving into Isaac Newton's work. Even after formal education, he decided to conduct his research through deep thought processes rather than the standardized way of scientific research. Many thought him to be a failure before his discovery of the theory of Relativity. Isn't that interesting.
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu 3 года назад
@@florenceofori7930 Thank you for the information! Yeah, I feel many geniuses are falling behind because they are being told they are stupid due to not fitting into the status quo. But as this topic has gotten more and more attention throughout the past years I have a positive outlook for our future generations and we can create the foundation for them at least.
@florenceofori7930
@florenceofori7930 3 года назад
@@laaaliiiluuu I couldn't agree more dearie.
@Ali-bm7bj
@Ali-bm7bj 3 года назад
Actually that 66% is wrong, it's about 80% and just a 5% is really engaged
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu 3 года назад
Those 5% revolve somewhere around the definition of "average" student and thus fit in so well while everyone else is left behind.
@Ali-bm7bj
@Ali-bm7bj 3 года назад
@@laaaliiiluuu and some others get bullied
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu 3 года назад
@@Ali-bm7bj True
@lorraine8962
@lorraine8962 3 года назад
Walt Disney!
@anyariv
@anyariv 3 года назад
Can I work for you?
@StandTogetherCC
@StandTogetherCC 3 года назад
Thanks for your enthusiasm, Anna! You can find our careers page here: careers.standtogether.org/main/
@albertoginelsalvador2172
@albertoginelsalvador2172 3 года назад
I know how to do it! I'm designing the robotic democratic school!
@RedRideRVT1R
@RedRideRVT1R 3 года назад
1:11, 2:30
@juluke8385
@juluke8385 3 года назад
Ah shit
@lightningwolf5157
@lightningwolf5157 3 года назад
Sadly I missed out on this,I wish I could have seen my full potential,I think school right now suck and they are making kids dumber and dumber and for a dropout to feel smarter than a lot of this young kids it’s scary honestly,it’s like we are going backwards in human evolution,smart kids inspire me ,when I meet one it makes me happy,it’s like finding yourself,it’s a beautiful thing we all have potential to do something meaningful for the future of man kind. 🪞🦄
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