No VTEC! What's Exactly Wrong? - Project BADASS2000 - EP17 

Your attitude makes you two one of my favorite youtubers!

Please take the engine out, inspect and rebuild as it should. F20C is such a great motor. Even better with the itb's. That will be an insane episode with loads of audience

The rod material you found is disturbing, but the metal on the oil drain plug is worse in my opinion. Bearing material is typically made of bronze, aluminum, and copper type materials and won't stick to a magnet. Steel and iron will, and that's what rods and cranks are made out of.

Only Canadians would be so upbeat with this news! You guys are awesome :-)

I am sad that the Bass2k is broken but I happy I get to see more of this build. Still my favorite project of yours to date, although the Kswapped civic is pretty F'in sweet too.

DONT K SWAP KEEP THAT F20 AND SUPERCHARGE IT.

Just pull out the motor and give it a refresh. New bearing, gaskets, stuff like that. It'll be cheaper than another used one and you can also be sure that it's in good condition.

Is it bad that I'm sort of excited that you'll be pulling the engine from this car because that means more S2000 episodes?

For a sec I thought this was about the 5-day track build.

Man that sucks, just seems like one motor after another with you guys- which really sucks because you guys are one of the most knowledgeable channels on yt and one of few that do things the right way

FINALLY IT'S BACK!!!!!!!! LOOOOOOOONG over due! the beast from the series that hooked me!more badass2000 please guys!

The attitude you guys have is awesome!

Its going to be the middle main bearing, it happen to my f20c. If your lucky you will be able to polish the crank, new bearings, and reinstall. Just a Fyi, king now makes some badass bearings for the F20c. IF you are going to swap it J2F!

I am glad to hear you're leaning towards rebuilding the engine. I was really looking forward to seeing how the car ran on the track this summer. Oh well, I guess I'll look forward to more videos on how you guys get the car back to the track with a proper 'f' engine in it. So, when you launch the new videos, will they be titled Battered-ass 2000?

Was really hoping you guys were bringing this to Gridlife, but no avail. You guys will love the quick jack.

I've been waiting for another episode, even if it's not good news!

10 day kswap s2k brought to you by hasport and ktuned.

Just a suggestion for cutting open filters. If you use a cut off wheel or reciprocating saw, you may add metal to the filter that wasn't there beforehand. On the other hand, without the filter cutting tool it can bring out the rage. Nice catch on the bearing. Can't wait to see what the issue is.

Hopefully this means we get more videos of the badass2000!

As always love your content guys. As a fellow s2k owner who also needs a rebuild, my heart goes out to y'all. My vote is fresh bearings. How long do you want this motor to last anyway? This may be crazy speak, but once a motor is modded or seeing consistent track time, my mileage expectations are seriously shortened. Compared to a another block, bearings are cheap. The time component and labor isn't so fun, but you can also build your clearances the way you want. A little on the looser side since you know the engine is going to be run hot for longer periods. Looking forward to what y'all do.

Nooooo. I was super looking forward to project badass2000 back on the track. Fix er up quick!

rain drop, drop top, got a spun bearing and a rod knock.

I just replaced my vtech gasket. Screen was gummed up with oil and pieces of gasket. 180k miles replaced. Super easy 6 dollar fix. Thank you

Damn it. That blows. On the flip side that quick jack is sick. I'm gonna pick one up. What size is that one you guys used?

Workshop is looking good guys

speedacadamy + vtec = greatness

Love the t-shirt where did you BUY it...my son wants it...THANKS

miss you guys..no internet no speed academy..haha

2JZ - S2000 :) I love the camera guy :) Or the K24 with a stroker-kit to 2.6 or 2.7 liter :P

Awesome!! S2K video FTW!

You have to look into the inner part of the pleats of the filter to find what it is catching. Easiest thing to do is just pull the filter material out of the cage. Also as mentioned by others, you need to pull the crank and polish the journals.

A teardown video would be fun :)

Put a f22c and supercharge it, make some real power

regardless you guys do great work, it would be interesting to see you guys do a k24 swap or maybe a sr20?

Check the thrust bearings. They are known to fail with aftermarket clutches.

yeeeeees it's back!!!

Where do you get that little lift? How much do they cost?

if I remember correctly, on your tune you set the parameter for your coolant temp pretty low. once the car hits operating temp (which is probably much higher since you're tracking it), the car is not engaging vtec due to it thinking that the car is too hot. just my 2 cents. not saying that there isn't something wrong with the motor either but if you still have issues in the future.

Granmy shifting not double cluthing like you should have

Sweet e28 in the background guys!! Let's see some episodes on that.

K swaps are incredibly expensive on this platform. Honestly price wise you can go stroker for the same as a used engine. I'd look at cnc (central North Carolina) speed shops stroker kit. It's a crank and rods uses the Oem pistons bumps up compression and it's really affordable. Assuming they still offer it I haven't looked in a couple years. You already have all the supporting mods to do it. Also i know you have the canton pan not sure what your datalogs show if you record oil pressure but maybe accusump time.

I have a 2006 Honda odyssey it gives me the code P2649 Rocker arm oil control solenoid VTEC solenoid valve circuit high voltage. Do I just change the part or worry about high-voltage? I also have other codes P2770, P0970, P0980, P0966, P0974. There all giving me high input, high circuit or low circuits. Should I just change the parts or is this a different issue? The car wouldn’t start I thought it was a battery and alternator issue. I replaced both of them. The car ran for a few miles and it shut off on me I couldn’t start it without a jump. Also I need to mention before it shut off on me every time I stopped and try to accelerate it hardly did.

the ass2000 never fails to fail... and if you guys wanna swap it put in something unique, like a 2 stroke motor or a jet engine. that would make sense.

Is there any continue on grips14 with the engine choose ?

This has all the classic symptoms of a failed crankshaft thrust bearing. Easy to diagnose, confirm or eliminate, just check the crank end-play clearance. With that amount of metal in the oil, the failed bearing should be easy to detect by simply rotating the crank back and forth in a short rocking motion by hand and detecting the ones with excess clearance by feel. All of that RTV is not good in the oil stream either, we have almost completely banned the use RTV silicone in our shop and use either anaerobic gasket maker/sealer or Hylomar sparingly as a replacement. Any excess anaerobic material will dissolve in the oil and since it is a large enough particle the oil filter captures it on the first circulation pass. The trick is to not have excess sealer that can get in the oil stream.

I'm in the same position, but mine got bad enough to where now it's knocking :( debating between a stroker kit or another f20c swap

Had the exact same thing happen to me... Spun bearing from a stupid low oil state while on track.... Got an f22 and good aftermarket oil wintage tray...

I was helping a Targa NFLD team that had a similar problem with a B18c. They had RTV all throughout the oil pickup screen and when the oil was hot the pressure was too low to engage VTEC. I'm not sure if the AEM uses the VTEC oil pressure switch or not but that could also be a source of problems (probably doesn't use it though). With that amount of metal in the pan it's most certainly a rod bearing. Kinda sucks but, the ASS2000 was questionable at best when you bought it!

Please just refresh the motor, id watch every single ep, that and you guys make great videos together

Could that be valve guide material? Is it consuming any oil?

I know it's off topic on the bads2000, but will you guys ever do an chapter of building or swapping 1-2jzgte

Subscribed. That's a good informative video. Any update?

Look at the bright side. Whenever something breaks on your racecar that just gives you an excuse to replace the broken parts with an upgrade! And while it's all apart maybe more upgrades because hey, you're already in there already right?

Hey does anyone know where I can buy that hydraulic jack setup?? My dad has a small shop and it would be great for him and me as well, please someone let me know, thanks

name of the lift please and thanks, a link would be good.

What rims are on that tundra? will it fit a 2015 taco?

Do you have to drain the oil to take off the vtec valve?

Last month I got a rod knock on my s2000 but I will be going with the same f20c because I don't want to affect 50/50 weight distribution of the car the makes it handle like it does, you guys should get a stroker kit or another f20c.

what u need to do is tear the motor apart and clean every oil galley , have the crank micro polished and install new bearings and oil pump ,sounds simple but it's slot of work but it's cheaper then a new motor

how is the oil pick up screen looking?

Please don't k swap it. The f20 is an engineering masterpiece which once held the record for the most hp per liter of any naturaly aspirated car!

Please do a full tear down. Even better a rebuild vid. My f20just killed itself on the way to the nurbergring :( I was to late getting it off the autobahn and heard it go. Fingers crossed I can rebuild it.

You guys promised that you guys were gona post more EVO content once summer hits. Still waiting for the videos guys

do you guys use valvoline at all?

Oil pump on its way out? Also what brand of oil was in the engine?

Rebuild boys!

I record and post my oil changes of my integra, and I've seen shavings recently, but your engine is 5x worse.. sucks too see this :( also I'm a wussy, I would still use a jack stand under that car while using that baby lift

How many miles are on it? And how many track days has she been to?

Way to go on the RTV Sealant. Might want to look up a diy on how little it takes.

That's a bummer guys, guessing this is why we missed you at Gridlife.

"That's quite the setup you've got there PT..."- The moment I died.

Toda stroker kit, please and thank you 😆

Nice bro

What model quickjack do you have in the vid? 3500, 5000, or 7000?

I hope you keep this same engine and try to work with it

I don’t know that anybody mention this but besides the valve retainers being in need of update to a ap2 retainers, the banjo bolts oil jets needs to be updated to ap2s as well.

How did this happen? Oil starvation? As an owner of an s2k I would like to track my car but obviously don't wanna ruin my motor either!

often times, when you have a valve cover blasted, the blast media will get trapped in the pcv baffle in the valve cover. if you don't thoroughly clean the baffle, you'll be chasing your tail trying to figure out why you keep frying bearings.

That quick jack looks sick.

We're did u get that car lift

@Pt and @Dp, here are cost effective options: 1) F22c 2) jdm F20c or 3) K24 swap

here is my question do you do leak down test to the engine ???

Stroke it with the ITBs would be killer

K-swap s2k's are awesome, stoker 2.4F-series are amazing, but there's only a couple J-swap s2k's and not much documentation on any of them. Would LOVE to see a J-swap. I'll give you a killer deal on my wife's piot.

You should have done an oil analyze.

Oil coolers also have copper along with bearings.

Worn main (crank journal) bearings?

How's this going guys ? Have you got any updates on the horizon ?

hydraulic or pneumatic? in regards to the lift.

Hi Guys, any updates on this ? We need more BADASS2000 !!! :D

the bearing material may be from over high levels of oil pressure. it resembles crankwalk but is not the same

That means the screen is doing its job, nothing to worry about. My Honda Accord has it too and runs like new. You’ll see it too when you change your oil.

Good thinking with the saw. That's where the metal is from.

When should i show up to help with the 2j swap?

Pro tip. Use a paint strainer instead. You can pick them up at Auto paint supply stores for cheap or free if you ask nicely!! =)

I wanna hear more about the E28 with E34 M5 turbine wheels on it... anything interesting lurking under there??

You guys should try to put a project on a Korean sedan, like the elantra or that Kia that looks like a civic. Would be dope.

what happened to the red S14 ?

The rain are bas2000 fans crying. If you guys do swap in another motor...please do a video on buying a "replacement" motor. God speed guys

how many miles does the car had with the oil presented in the video and what type of oil were you using??