@@libbycollins9349 The guy they want has no integrity or values at all, he only serves himself, and he has no scruples. It makes perfect sense that they would mock values and integrity when their candidate has neither of those qualities.
I'm not trying to be mean or nasty. I'm hoping what I'm about to say will be helpful. Jesus was indeed divisive. Matt. 10:32-39 is where Jesus says He has come to divide, separate. I know this from first hand experience. My brother hated me for something I did not do. My dad tossed me from his family because I did not yield to his ungodly demands that I separate from my wife and because I said, "God will take care of me." He laughed in the meanest way possible. God is judgmental. The verse often used for not judging is "Judge not that you be not judged". Everyone loves to stop there but in order to understand what Jesus is actually saying, you need to read from Matt. 7:1 all the way to Matt. 7:6. That set of verses is the entire thought Jesus wanted to convey. In short, Jesus is just warning us that if we judge someone, we better have taken care of that issue in our own lives first. Plank vs speck. Jesus hates sin, but is sacrificial (loving) to the sinner. But we must come to our LORD on His terms, giving up all we have and all we are to all He is. I hope this helps.
This Catholic just returned home from casting her vote. My God-given spirit of discernment leads me. It led me in 2016 and 2020 as well. Character matters. 💙💙💙
@@margaretjones7954 Sorry Margaret - you've been sold a packet of goods. There is overwhelming documentary evidence that Trump regularly stiffed his Contractors and Consultants - all because he could, and he knew they they didn't have deep enough pockets to chase their cases through the courts.
@@margaretjones7954Sorry Margaret, you are wrong. He needs to be held more accountable than he actually is. Look at the news about all the cities that he has bills for his rallies that have gone unpaid. They are out there if you took your Maga hat off long enough to let God expose that to you.
@@margaretjones7954 How about adultery - one of the BIG sins in the Bible? Do you think Trump ever committed that sin? He seems to like revenge. How does God feel about that? But you're right - people don't care.
@artpatronforever I shall respect your beliefs and your right to absolutely and completely disagree with my beliefs. The concept of being born again has to do with one's soul and trust in Christ. It isn't a physical rebirth. Please disagree with the correct definition. Have a lovely day and even better life.
@@juliaellis2046 Saying born again Christian is redundant, like an added extra to make you a super duper Christian as compared with any other Christian. I see the same thing with evangelical and charismatic and other name tags like it is somehow an upgrade, when Christian should be sufficient. Some feel a need to be extra Christian, like being spirit filled or annointed or consecrated or whatever, to set them apart somehow like an upgrade to first class on the Glory Train where all those other more ordinary Christians are traveling coach. The cosmic pecking order being what some think, I think is ridiculous, like when we get to Heaven some of us will be living in an exclusive neighborhood while others will be slumming for not being sufficiently sanctimonious.
I agree. The Pro-Life Movement offers nothing to enrich or encourage life after birth. No medical care, meals, housing, education, and/or public safety measures are being promoted for the living, breathing beings that walk God's Earth. Actually, they want everything that would endanger lives. Makes no sense. 💙
Unfortunately my mom and grandma are opposite. They’re obsessed with Trump and believe all that crap about how Biden and Harris are evil and not _real_ Christians, refusing to see how Trump uses Christianity as a prop. All because they’re Democrats.
But how can you vote for Harris? She is just as bad!!! No one voted for her to run in the first place and she has done nothing to show her value whatsoever...... I am an independent. I voted for Trump twice. Both are basically the same party. I will not for either one. I don't care if my vote is wasted at least they can't use it. My name will not be associated with either one.
@@DebbieAdams-i8n actually, she got the nomination in keeping with the rules of the Democratic Party. If you don’t like the rules, join the party, run for the rules committee and change the rules. It was all according to Hoyle.
@@DebbieAdams-i8n girl, are you even paying attention to what’s being said on either side and the differences in rhetoric? Harris is trying to actively bring people together while Trump is continuously spreading hate and misinformation. Only one side has their leader saying things like “I need the kind of Generals Hitler had” and “I’m going to be a Dictator on day 1”, along with his statement in 2020 that “it shouldn’t cost 60k to bury a fucking Mexican”. But sure, because Kamala didn’t do anything notable as _Vice President_ during the last 4 years they’re the same. Tell me what the job of a Vice President is?
I am Catholic (used to be anyway ), and I voted Harris Wallz. As have all my friends. As for pro choice or prolife, i can only say that while I couldn't get an abortion, i don't have any right or desire to regulate what other women do or need to do. It's a heart-wrenching enough decision for a woman to make without having to be judged by someone, especially men, for their actions.
Well said I agree 100%. I'm pro choice , don't like idea of abortion but who am I to judge you can't legislate it too many variables . We all stand to give account to God not the government. I'm still looking for scripture focusing on Abortion. Jesus said love God and your neighbour as yourself and then dropped the mic. A friend shocked me but made me think. What happens to kids under the age of accountability , they go to heaven, so he said what about miscarriages and abortions. As I said I was shocked but had to agree .
I’m a Catholic who feels the same way. It’s not the government’s business, nor for me to judge, what other women choose when it comes to abortion. Voted Blue.
My Bible tells me it is a duty to vote. I voted by absentee ballot 5 days ago for Harris. I'm in SW Ohio. I'm a 72 year old Puerto Rican NEVER Trumper.
Im a practicing Christian. The issue im voting for is democracy. The rest are morality issues thats up to the parents when they raise their children, and if they are with a christian faith or other religion, my family and all my relatives have always voted. Im a humanitarian.
The issue is not democracy but is the survival of a republic. In a democracy there is no protection of individual rights because a democracy is mob rule and mobs make up law as they proceed to violate every right of any individual at the full discretion of the mob.
“FEAR BASED?” “…do this, go to hell, do that, go to hell, say that, go to hell, love THESE people, go to hell, VOTE DEMOCRAT, go to hell.” I mean, from the start, their whole religious outlook is fear based.
There is a reason Luther rebelled and started a new Church. And you have 100's of flavors of Methodists. Then Baptists and Non- Denominational and yadda yadda. Christians don't agree with each other. But many are centered on Christ. Those ones sound like Rev Ed. Christians don't agree with each other
This is why I believe in reincarnation. I think a just diety would not condemn souls to an eternity of suffering for their mistakes. It seems to me that it's more equitable, and merciful, to make us do our homework again and yet again until we learn to get it right.
I wonder how many of the right's version of Christianity would allow divorce, remembering how many people in the USA are divorced. Which version of Christianity is going to be "right"? All the more reason to not vote red.
The pharisees wanted a political messiah to free Israel from pagan rome, and make Israel "great again", they wanted a political messiah to use force and power, Jesus did not side with them. He came to free sinners from sin, for both left and right, for both Jew and Gentile.
My closest relative, who I call sister, is born again & daily devotions are part of her life. She is 61; I am 67. I am not "born again." I love the teachings of Jesus & if I had to leave America, I believe Nova Scotia would be my destination to be part of your church Rev Ed. We have in the last few days butted heads about politics. I could NEVER see her supporting a man like Donald Trump because of his lack of character, humanity, ethics... yet she refuses to say a thing because politics are "divisive." (And who is most to blame for that now? I believe Donald Trump) She refuses to talk about politics; O.K. I asked "Do you listen to politics?" I tried to make the point that you can put your headphones on & listen to music all day long but politics are part of your everyday life whether you like it or not.... the road that you use to drive to work, or the bridge you cross; your mom or your patient's access to Social Security; whether a poor child gets at least one meal a day. I asked, "Is everyone supposed to stay home, not vote & God will let us know his decision? NO ANSWER YET... perhaps NEVER. Signed, Frustrated Childless Cat Lady in the PNW Forever Thankful for Your Wisdom Rev Ed & helping me keep some semblance of sanity as America's election grows closer. Thank you to everyone for keeping America in your prayers💙💙💙💙💙 I voted yesterday Harris-Walz 💙
I am the mom of a 40 year old daughter. When I was 39 I had an early miscarriage due to undiagnosed uterine cancer. My doctor performed a d&c, and then later a hysterectomy to make sure all my 1B cancer was gone. I am a Christian. I am pro life. But I know from my experiences that we as women have all kind of heartbreaking things that can happen with our reproductive systems beyond our control. I have compassion for all women, who like me have faced such unbelievable pain and unimaginable heartbreak. So when I hear a so called Christian leader or pastor say we have to vote for Trump, I think of women like me, who will die due to being unable to get the gynecological care they need. My daughter has fewer rights now than I did before roe was repealed! And I cannot comprehend or follow any so called Christian leader or politician who supports Trump. Trump is a convicted rapist, an adulterer, a traitor, a racist who is full of hate and malice. How any man can support Trump who is a rapist and boasts of taking away the healthcare of the women in men’s lives say they love their wife, their sister, their mother or daughter is beyond my comprehension! His Christian nationalist followers say he is like David, Trump says he is God’s chosen and his blasphemy makes me sick at heart. Is it any wonder why so many are leaving the churches here. The misogyny towards women in the church is overwhelming! And the hatred of so many men towards women in society. Where is the compassion in the church for those in need? In desperate situations? I do not see the love of Christ in the Christian nationalists, just greed for money and power. I voted for Kamala Harris. Her compassion and empathy, and yes, her joy is what we so desperately need in the USA right now. And hope for a better future! Trump and his rhetoric have been like a cancer spreading across my country. I fear for my country and democracy if he wins the presidency again. He envies and admires dictators, and he wants to be one! God forbid Trump ever gets the presidency again or has access to the nuclear codes! Please pray for the USA. We need it so desperately right now! Thank you!
Even if he doesn’t win, I fear for our country. There was a quote that said “America is great because she is good. If she ceases to be good she will cease to be great.”
It concerns me that Republican Christians don't appear to care anything about the people that are being chased away from Jesus and his love, healing and power.
I know a Marxist who goes out and feeds the homeless seven days a week. I’ve never seen a preacher do that. I’ve seen a socialist buy winter coats every spring and store them in an empty room in his house until fall moves into winter. He always has three or four in the trunk of his car. If he sees someone without a coat, he has one to give away on the spot or he will take that person back to his house to make sure they have a coat. I’ve never seen a preacher do that. I’m not so sure those preachers are who they say they are.
I was raised catholic, received all of my sacraments from baptism to marriage. Over the years I started pulling away, but the final straw was when our parish priest bellowed, “AND NO OBSMA!” when he was running against Romney. I was done then and I won’t go back.
No one is addressing the elephant in the room. It's not about Kamala. It's not about Donald. Its about churches endorsing a political party or individual within their church walls. The Johnson amendment is not being enforced.
I am so grateful for your insight. Living in East Texas where people bring up Trump in the church, not our pastor thankfully, but members do. I feel like a lone sojourner. You've helped me have clarity on what their thinking is regarding voting for Trump, things I could never come to answer. I still am dumbfounded at Christians supporting a man who makes fun of people with disabilities, lies constantly, and on one occasion said "I'm not Christian" at a broadcasted event. So, thank you very much for your caring and Bible based mindset.
Well said. In fact, VERY WELL SAID! THANK YOU! ❤ It absolutely amazes me how so many of my fellow "American, Evangelical, Conservative Christian friends cannot conceive why I have stopped attending church...as well as supporting them financially, even after telling them I am sick of having MAGA and Trump shoved down my throat like it's all part of the gospel of Jesus. The truth is, as you have said, it's not. And it never will be. But, sadder yet, we as the Church, have seem to have forgotten more importantly: "Love the Lord your God with ALL your heart, mind, and soul... ... and love your neighbor as yourself." We have forgotten that it is WE OURSELVES, who promote "prolife" throughout the world, with our love. ❤
Conversely, he looks a whole lot like the dude their dads fought against in WW2. My grandfather was a POW and died when my dad was 10…. How my dad can support trump is beyond me.
@@harveywabbit9541 for sure. And early dementia, but come on… his dad died fighting Hitler. Not immediately, but his entire childhood was his dad having horrible migraines from the shrapnel behind his ear from when the plane was shot down. What he said about McCain “bothered him, but low taxes”. I told him that unless he’s a multi millionaire he’s not getting those tax cuts and if he is, we need to discuss my trust fund”. I just sooth myself by saying we live in a blue state so his vote is diluted and his wife votes in TX so that also doesn’t matter.
I am a registered Republican - I vote for the person and consider myself an Independent now. I will NEVER vote a for a republican ever again (and haven't since trump showed up). My eyes are opened and I see the error of my previous votes. I can clearly see he is a dangerous, dangerous person. Nothing good can come of it - nothing.
@@user-wx2ey3iq3e Don't take it from me, take it from Republican 4 star general and Trump chief of staff John Kelly who said, "Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he’s certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators - he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure." If that doesn't chill you to the bone, then grab a dictionary and look up the words you don't understand.
@@phukhu525 don’t have one, because it isn’t real….. it was put out there by a far right think tank. No different then the leftist saying men are women and the Green new deal will save the planet!!!! By the way, I look to my Lord and Savior for guidance NOT some political party, kind of like the way this fraud of a Christian’s videos
@@user-wx2ey3iq3e Well, he already tried to overthrow the government once. He's openly talking about suspending the Constitution or simply ignoring it. He said this would be the last time "Christians" would have to vote. Many of the authors and supporters of Project 2025 are in his campaign and many have either been proposed or considered for Cabinet and other positions in Trump's administration should he win. He thumbs his nose at our allies in the world and openly sucks up to evil dictators and strongmen. And so much more! The evidence is ample and obvious and has been out there for awhile in most cases and often straight from his own mouth - which you had to ignore to make your bad faith question... So now _YOU_ please expound on how he is _NOT_ a dangerous man????? Please!
Thank you Rev for bring us to the rational center of truth. I've been getting more anxious every day, so yesterday I was talking to the Lord about it, and told him my mind/heart is making so much noise I'm getting pushed out of the flock. He let me know in the lightning flash of his opinion, that I need to get closer to Him, so I can see Him all the time, and that's what I need. I took that to mean to go back to my Christian books and educational programs where I can clearly see Him. I'm sharing so other Christians can know too. Right now I'm reading Christ's Object Lessons, old book but very centering. May He bless all of us at this nerve wracking time💖💖💖
As the Christian left I proudly voted early today for Vice President Harris and the down ticket Democratic candidates. As Rev Ed would say the people who have read the red letters.
This was the deal since Jerry Falwell's _Moral Majority_ in the 1970s. Even then abortion access wasn't a particularly big issue for the ministries, but it was an anger point Falwell could latch on to: He convinced the GOP candidates to be anti-abortion-access (it was not well understood, and an easy concession), and then tell his voting bloc the GOP is going to save all the unborn babies and preserve family values. This was (I think) the first time the single-issue voter was recognized and exploited. And it got Reagan into power in 1980, just after we had the nicest president ever. Family values since then have been represented by stripping down government social services while expecting Christian ministries to take up the slack (non-Christian ministries were ineligible for government subsidies). Sex ed in schools was replaced with abstinence-only education (featuring a lot of transactionalist-marriage stereotypes and false data). The ownership class got lots of tax breaks, and everyone was mostly distracted by the War in Iraq and the International War on Terror. Featuring torture and PMCs and black ops (that would turn into drone-strikes). Kurt Vonnegut even called out the religious right before he died, and Carter walked away from the Southern Baptist Church noting that it not longer represented what he believed. So by the time the _Jesus Gets Us_ propaganda campaign came out, the US was entirely skeptical that it meant what it said, and by then the internet was up and it didn't take much investigation to learn that it was more about ministries fishing for tithes than it was a call for ministries to return to the beatitudes and to offer compassion and mercy. It showed the world Jesus was no longer a philosophy or ideology, but a brand for commercial interests. It's why I think we can't rely on Jesus or Christianity as a shorthand for an ideology, because the brand can be repurposed to sell french fries, or monarchy. We have to instead rely on the doctrine itself, without shorthand. We can't vote for the guy out ministries tell us to, or the one who promises allegiance to Jesus. We have to vote for the guy who makes sure students have school lunches and tampons.
I’m an older person, and I remember this history. The Moral Majority, which, despite its name, was a PAC, not a religious organization, had really gotten ahold of the GOP by the time I could vote in my first election. The Moral Majority was neither. By the end of Reagan’s second term, it was losing support, and shut down shortly after. I kinda thought we were rid of the whole mess, until it came back with a vengeance. Incidentally, if you look back just a smidge further than Roe, you can find the link between the rise of the MM and the issue that was the true catalyst that spawned the desire to find a polarizing issue from which political power could be gained. That issue was not actually abortion. Instead, that issue was the desire to allow for the continuation of segregation in schools (a la Bob Jones university.) But, they certainly couldn’t appeal to the masses, religious or otherwise, with that one, given the changing views of the time. They considered other issues of the day, such as equal rights for women. They didn’t figure they could get wide appeal on that one, either. Eventually, abortion was selected as the issue that could most likely have the widest appeal to get them the backing they needed, so they ran with it. For them, abortion as a moral issue was, and still is, nothing more than a political tool to reign in paying supporters and voters by pretending to align with their religious convictions. And, unsurprisingly, racism was at the foundation of the movement.
Integration. Falwell passionately opposed racial integration. When that became a losing political issue, he and his movement latched onto abortion. Politico published a great article on it about ten years ago, and the Nation sometime before that. If one enters the search terms, "Jerry Falwell and Integration" into Google, those articles and a few others should appear.
These are such helpful historical perspectives, thank you both for sharing! There's basic textbook history and then there's lived history. As a "senior" millennial, I really appreciate the insight!
@@lauriebak I made the same point about integration, but I can no longer see my comment. If you can't see it either, just let me add that yes, your point about their stance on school segregation is well documented.
I'm always astonished that apologists for Trump point to King David, a man after God's own heart, wasn't unflawed, and Trump is just the same. Except he isn't, and you can only believe that because of cognitive dissonance.
David did have flaws-- so does every human, so it's hard for me to see why it's significant to say that. But isn't there something about "by their fruits shall you know them"? It's also hard for me to understand how people don't see the fear and hate.
Interestingly enough, these “pro-life” 45ers are conspicuously silent about 1.2 million people dead from a pandemic that was downplayed. Didn’t the three people I lost matter? I’ve voted for both Democrats and Republicans, by the way.
I love Jesus, and l cast my vote for Harris Walz today. I believe that Jesus would rebuke tRump and all the magas who are primarily driven by power and greed.
Not only does DJT not espouse or behave in a Christian way, he also does not worship in a church community. And I don’t believe that his golf course Sundays are a spiritual experience.
There's a funny RU-vid clip I just found from 5 years ago called "GOP Jesus". A man in a robe speaks Jesus' words to people, but with a twist. "Do unto others...as you suspect what they might want to do unto you." "I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. Now I'm all entitled - you shouldn't have done that."
Most of these “pro-life” people aren’t pro-life at all, they’re simply forced birthers. Ask them if they’re ok with all those children they “saved” getting govt aid for their needs until they’re self sufficient adults, and watch these people that “care SO much” for children make 1,000 excuses about how “where’s the 💵 coming from” and “it’s the parents responsibility”-- Oh you mean the same parents that didn’t want them or couldn’t afford to take care of them???
The right to life chapter where I live, came out with a statement, that our goal is far more than abortion, our goal is to fight against all unnecessary death. In other words, pro-life means more than being against abortion, it means being against all unnecessary death, from all types of violence, mismanagement of medical issues as well as abortion.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” - Barry Goldwater, Republican, 1960s
I had another thought on this: the woman with the issue of blood in the New Testament Luke 8:43-48. Verses 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[a] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped. 45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked. When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.” 46 But Jesus said, “Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me.” 47 Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. 48 Then he said to her, “Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace.” Jesus showed compassion, and understanding, she was considered unclean under Jewish law due to her bleeding. So she should not have touched him , but her desperation for a cure and her faith in Jesus brought healing to her. 12 years of suffering and misery…gone in a moment. That is the compassion and love that should be shown in the church today. Sharing Jesus love, light, and truth. May we all continue to share His love and compassion to everyone, and be His hands extended…
Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority really ignited the fire in the 80s that has grown this far-right Christian movement into the sad and misguided beast it has become now.
This is exactly the argument for separation of church and state. The Constitution states "We hold these truths self-evident." There is nothing self-evident about Blind Faith religion. A person's faith is their own. They have the right to believe what they want but they do not have the right to force it on others or control people's lives by electing a "false prophet" simply because they believe their blind faith in a perceived "god" tells them to.
I think that for a portion of these professed Christians, it's not so much that they think 45 is "godly", more that "the other side" appears to be "ungodly", and therefore the privileged rich boy is "godly" purely by default. And any fact that tarnishes that thin veil, is to be ignored, brushed off, or denounced, because they can't bear the idea that "the other side" has any positives to them, or should hold power.
Rev. Trevors, thank you for being a voice for compassion and understanding. It is so desperately needed right now. I have been looking for a new church home. Unfortunately there are so many churches, pastors and members here in Georgia that support Trump. And I have been struggling so much with the issues you mentioned in your video. I have been unable to comprehend and understand how the church can lift up Trump, and say, as Trump has said about himself, that he is God’s chosen. How they have an almost cult like devotion to him. As you said in your video, Trump is nothing like Jesus. So I am really struggling to understand, , as I cannot reconcile this. As scripture says, what does light have to do with darkness? I have dear friends who are born again Christians that support Trump. They say Jan. 6 was a peaceful protest. They think Trump will bring our nation back to God and Christian values they say our country was founded upon. I just cannot reconcile the evil things Trump says and does with the gospel of Christ. I cannot understand how so many Christian’s, including pastors, are being deceived by him, and promoting him from their pulpits. It is almost like they have been brainwashed. I despair for the church. I feel like I may never find a church home again.
Rightwing Republicans view God as a monolithic, unchanging, and rigid god who holds obedience above love and subservience above freedom. He is also a weak god who needs Republicans to enforce his will on earth. He is a god who cannot tolerate cultural change or cultural progress. We are to remain in a medieval dogma for eternity. Progressives see God as a dynamic and living God who self-reflects and grows as we grow. He is at the vanguard of human progress. He is all powerful and encompassing. He directs the world as he sees fit and does not need our interference to achieve his goals. One is living and evolving. The other is dead and rigid as stone.
Rev Ed excellent point. But first of all your church or any church should not know how you vote. I am 64 and when i was young my Dad told me to never tell anyone how i vote. Because it can start a firestorm. and when i got older i understood what he told me.
I wish a reporter or journalist would ask Trump the names of the five gospels. It does two things: firstly, it's a trick question, secondarily, I doubt he could name more than two off the top of his head. Not sure how this hasn't come up yet.
I struggle with abortion as contraception but the difference in character between Harris and Trump are too stark to ignore. Doctors and patients need to make these decisions, not white male politicians. And we need to protect children after they are born, not just beforehand.
I know this wasn't meant to be funny. We are not suppose to take joy in the misery of others. But , maybe the religious right staying home IS answering prayers. Maybe even the prayers of us heathens.
The Biblical truth about Trump, other than the 30+ verses that describe the Antichrist that Trump & Co match: Isaiah 2:22 - _Put no more trust in man, who has only the breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?_ Psalm 146:3-4 - _Put not your trust in princes, in mortal man, who cannot save. When his spirit departs, he returns to the ground; on that very day his plans perish._ Jeremiah 17:5 - This is what the LORD says: *_“Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind, who makes the flesh his strength and turns his heart from the LORD."_*
Whether they are considered errant Christians or just church goers doesn't matter. They left or avoided the teachings of Christ. They may think they are the best of Christians, but like all of us they need to do a self evaluation . I feel Christians have an obligation to vote to help those in need. To not vote is not very far from voting for trump. This faulty Christian, after much prayer, reflection, and study, will confidently vote Democrat and is glad to do so.
I think you hit the bull eye of the current issue. Thanks for making it VERY clear to all listeners of this channel. Hopefully he will not be returning to make the world a worse than current situation. He simply lacks the qualities and capabilities of a resilient but kind leader during troubling times for all people or at least for the betterment of the working class majority, if no other option is available.
Im also a born again Christian and I wish more clergymen would speak out about the right and the whole Christian nationalist nonsense. So many who say they are Christians have been misled and duped by Trump and his rhetoric. Maybe if their pastor isn't also supporting Trump, maybe he could talk to his congregation and try and reach those who need it.
