NOKTA LEGEND BEAST MODE VS RUTUS VERSA - DEEP SILVER RETEST 

Welcome 👍

Welcome 👍

Thank you!

No problem 👍

Good point! More stuff now than the D2, easy to bounce around once you know it but definitely could be intimidating to new users.

Yeah, the Legend is a great first detector. It allows you to learn as you go. Now with these updates trying to blur the lines between the Legend and the "cost too much" detectors we have a detector that is as complex as highest end machines, but it is like they are creating a rock so big even they can't lift it. All that said, I love the Legend and have found great things with it. But, man, that rutus is a brutus, lol.

If you want a detector that does everything, you have to expect that you have to take a little time to learn all the functions, but I think it's worth the time!!

Welcome Fred

Welcome Rob

No, Nokta is a great company, they will explain what's going on!

@@billbarry2984 they just released a video showing there results with a demo.

I was not a fan of 1.15 either. One thing I noticed was allot more 1 and 2 vdis (in park/field) that i did not see before 1.15. From my testing it was like they modified, or something in the back end happened to park and field to perform like Beast. Weird..

Yes 👍

Welcome Jimmy

Good luck, people are saying overall its deeper even without Beast.

Thanks, yes I’m in the states, yea have to have it shipped here not sold in the US.

Beast GB mode 1 and 2 does a ground grab by pumping.

Thanks, I’m not sure. I don’t have one anymore.

Have a good weekend bud!

I am just trying to show it and help since everyone is a tester of the beta. I have seen a couple videos already that show the same as mine. If they leave it thats up to them. Its not my main machine but i was hoping for a cool Beast silver mode one tone pitch is not going to cut it.

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​@@IffySignalswhat is your current "main machine" if I may ask? Versa?

@@jimmyberubelevesque2557 hey Jimmy, i guess my current fav is the Versa for relics. Mainly because I really like the dual mode audio.

Never tried one but heard its good.

@IffySignals not to brag, but am going to, Mine is a Geniune NASA TOM modded

@@rickvann3489 👍

No, its very fast and maintains a good non ferrous Id in iron with 3.7. It does not have a preset full tone’s currently but you can modify and make one. You can adjust each ID and the tone it gives. I mainly use two tones for relics but i have setup a couple of tone bin programs for coins and silver. You can save programs but you can also save custom tone profiles so you do not have to leave your program.

Hey Danny, it is. Its the target, the Double Score no IF will not hit it either, that dime is Anti Nokta. No idea why but I’m leaving it down there. D2, Manti and Versa like it. Maybe its the LG 30 size coil catching iron at the same time. That is definitely a possibility. I have other coils i can try.

@@IffySignals I would Love to see Nokta Hitting things out of the Ballpark. As Many people like the Brand..

@@ohdannyboyjustadiggin it already does. 👍

Thanks

DT - Deep Target. Works good 👍

@@IffySignals Thank you, am new to the hobby and learning from watching your vids.

Welcome to the hobby! If you need any help my email is in the about section.

Stock is good. If you relic hunt in the woods the small is better for that.

@@IffySignals 23 or 28?

@@raziss173 the Stock is the 28.

Cost less, but a still top of the line performer and Noktas flagship. Competition is good for the end users and the competition. It helps improvement and keeps down prices 👍

Thats a 10” nickel. Maybe i said it wrong. I think this dime is just a tough target. Not sure why. I tired the Double Score as well and no go on the dime. The versa and Manti hits it strong. Even better today since it rained all day. That Beast mode is odd. If nobody speaks up that means they are happy and it stays the way it is.

Do you think thats what was requested? Im not sure, i have been out of the loop with the pages and forums. Maybe its just how everyone wants it and I’m wrong? I thought a deep punching silver beast with tone and filter options.

@@IffySignals either way Legend is limited at this point, time for the faster and more powerfull hardware - Legend II

@@neomatrix888 prob already in the works.

@@IffySignals exactly

Both have a BC Filter adjustment that work similar.

Im sure they will.

Versa is awesome, sucks its not aval here. I have not shown much of it after a few “why you showing us a machine we cant get” haha

​@@IffySignalsI'd personnally like more Versa content.

Its very close between both

@@CrazyDetectors Its as deep and Good as deus2? But half price

@@raziss173 yes, but deus is ligther and wireless. I use both machines. For maximal deeps i would use the rutus

@@CrazyDetectors Thank you! Before im thinking between nokta legend and deus 2 and i cant decide which one to buy , but yesterday i saw rutus, now im thinking to buy, but on internet is not yet much compares between rutus and deus 2 or manticore

@@raziss173 rutus versa (rutus in general) is an underrated Underdog and a tip in Germany. Its a polish Company with a great ownder who is also a detectorist.

Beast mode is a mess that needs to be looked at unless its correct and just odd for me. DT is good though and can help.

Seem to be a few current Kings, which is great. It would suck for us if only ML was king. Prices would be higher.

Others have mentioned the same but why? Why even bother to add a Beast Mode as a single tone option like relic on the D2 but give no tone options or filtering options? Who does that help but people who want to dig everything? That in itself I could understand but I am not seeing the added depth in my soil either. Actually seeing less. Cannot manually manipulate GB so you are stuck with the added noise that seems to come with it. Its an odd mode to offer in my opinion. But hey on the other hand its another update and the DT can help if used sparingly.

@@IffySignals My testing has been on in the wild nonferrous fringe targets, in my very mild ground, while switching between regular modes, DT, and BM on those targets. I've got a lot more testing to do with DT and BM, but I can say for certain, that neither is providing more depth in my tests so far. I am finding that on some fringe targets, DT and BM are separating the nonferrous signal from the ground signal and iron objects, better than regular mode. DT is easy to use and allows all the tone options and other features to work with it. On some nonferrous fringe targets, it can turn a one way hit into a two way hit. Although if I set DT too high for my conditions, then erratic behavior occurs...but that's expected. On the other hand, I'm finding BM to be something completely different, and a little perplexing. On some fringe targets, I can get it to hit on nonferrous fringe targets much better than regular mode and DT mode. Enough so, that on some fringe targets, BM is hitting well on a fringe nonferrous target that are iffy in DT, and almost invisible in regular mode. Although on those targets in BM, the ID is erratic and there is no tonal nuance... but it's still quite clear that BM is telling me it sees a nonferrous target. BM only has enough information on the target to conclude if it's nonferrous or not...that's it. It doesn't have enough information to give an accurate ID, nor does it have enough information to provide tonal nuance. But, under the right circumstances, I'm finding some nonferrous fringe targets that are missed in regular mode, iffy in DT mode, and a definite "dig me" in BM. A further clue to what BM is doing and even DT, is that it's effect seems to mainly be on low to mid conductors.

@@user-yp1dx5zu9d thanks for the feedback. I had it out last night and tried it on a field. The field is not that polluted and the BM did not really like the ground. I could not get it stable even using both GB 1 and 2. I then reset both GBs and it was more stable for a couple of mins by then all of a sudden got erratic again. Park and field were ok and DT was ok as well, but higher levels do make it get unstable and you can compensate both by lowering the sensitivity a bit but thats kind of moving backwards. Im more just trying to see what can make it more user friendly rather than finding a way to use it as i will most likely never.

@@IffySignals I see what you mean. I like DT, but BM is a head scratcher. Heck, sometimes it seems as though BM is behaving like a very low weighted SMF, other times it seems high weighted. Oh well, it's not as if it cost us anything, and no one is being forced to use it :) In addition, it's still in Beta, so both DT and BM may significantly change on the final release.

Agree 👍