Non-Professional Game Dev - The Joy of Making - Extra Credits 

How was this comment put down 7 ours ago, did you have this video hidden?

StarFury 909 Yeah he put it on private.

I knew it

Great video, guys. Keep up the good work.

Extra Credits Everytime this question is asked I roll my eyes.

Kit That's pretty amazing.

Fernando Banda thanks! i figure once we're married and have bought a house i may go back and add to it!

I hope you two live happy together

Kit I think my heart just melted. :)

I actually thought of someone doing exactly that while watching the video. Glad to see someone else had the same idea. And very glad it worked. Best wishes to both of you.

then he sold it to microsoft after the minecons that insued

Notch didn't sell it to Microsoft. _Jeb did after Notch stepped down from being the CEO of Mojang and gave it to _Jeb. Notch was no longer having fun working on Minecraft because of how popular it became. It turned into just "work" for him instead of the fun thing it was to him when he started. That's why he left Mojang to start other projects. It's the same reason that other game he was going to make never came into being because he felt so pressured to make it good that it stopped being fun.

ShneekeyTheLost if you think about it, notch pretty much revolutionized the indie game genre

Considering all of the bad shit I've seen in the game's design and what I know from the early game, it was definitely not Notch's masterpiece. (nor was he good at sprite art)

il never forget the good time i hade with my friends in it

Have you switched to trying to make the next big hit by noe

I don’t even know you but the verified tick made me happy for you

"If I manage to attract more people" Well look where you are now

Amon gus

stone-baked-games.itch.io/clever-girl ;)

I looked the the game page and it looks so cool! As a fan of dinosaurs, and of prehistory in general, I like this hobby project. I think it would be cool if you could make a sequel or prequel or spin-off that takes place in another time period. My preference is the Carboniferous.

I'm glad you think it looks cool, I enjoyed making it and it's nice to see it get a little bit of attention now. I'd love to do a sequel at some point, or an updated version, so one day hopefully.

I was about to post it! That idea sounds SO COOL! ^^

I thought I wasn't gonna understand it, but I did.

@@silentfilms7459 me too

Yeah, i felt like a stab in the heart when he said: "i learned HTML in high school"

Probably still would function better than my C code.

@@omegablender Don't worry... I'm the latest of them all lol

construct 3 or clickteam fusion 2.5 are the best options to start since no coding knowledge required at all

Maybe so.

Same

Can definitely agree there, i mean, i've been working on one doom mod for what, 3 years now?

I wish! My stats (for a period of about a year and a half): 109 views 60 downloads $0.08 revenue

IkBenBenG 38 views here, pretty sure they're all my buddies on discord :D

reminds me of winrar purchased licenses

At least he got 583,000 downloads!

I made 17$ lol

4 years later: what came out of that project?

put the link here, I would like to try it out

show it to your friends. They like playing them

TrueCynder Im commenting here so that I get notified incase the link gets posted.

It's nothing special really ... Just a small JRPG that is more like a playable prologue to another game I'll work on- but sure if you guys want to check it out I got a tumblr blog for it. the-nova-bloodline.tumblr.com/ Also I got a few videos on my channel (nothing special though.)

Hey! If you need any music for your next small project, I'd love to work with you !

i know i'm a year late but have you played pokemon reloaded?

@@santiagogs15 Most fangames based off of Nintendo IPs Get taken Down in a flash.

Thaannks!!

NICE!

Too bad I cannot download it

Could you describe the problem you're having? I'll try to fix it if I can.

thanks, I wanted to ask you for links to _all_ the games mentioned though, I mean, no reason not to give your sources more exposition right?

Undertale was the other game I was trying to think of.

Well, Undertale had kickstarter, so it's a bit of professional?

The best example I can think of that hasn't been commercially sold is OFF. It has a pretty big cult following. It's also a great example of how games from different nations can enrich us. I always get excited to see a successful indie or 'non-professional' come out of a different country than America.

+Lorik D Time to listen to Pepper Steak for the hundredth time now.

Purification in progress ... DAMN, I need to play it again, now.

Really? Please elaborate.

I made a game for the 18th birthday of my gf in which you play the first day we met. It just feels right to make something like this.

@@CananaMan Aww. That seems like a great concept game

Step 3: emotional profit.

burn

He is doing a pretty decent job though he has quit the foresight when it comes to his project ...

Well he was a professional game dev before he started working on Yandere Simulator.

Apparently, as he said, Yandere Sim IS (sorry for capsing) his work right now.

Man, two years in the making

What type of game was it and how long did it take you to make it??? I'm thinking about going into Game Design at a later date!

Red Panda will you make a video walktrough for your channel?

Timothy Liddy depending on the project, it can take anything between a few days to years. If you are thinking about it you should start very small, try making a pong game

I've actually started making a pong game. after losing motivation on bigger ideas. I'm going to start small and pick it up from there.

It's great to start small, because it's a great way to build up your confidence. When you make and finish a smaller game, it'll give you some experience and you'll be able to point at something you've created. Then, you can start working on something else a bit more complicated. Also, if you've got some huge grand plans for a game, it's often better to simplify some of the stuff to make it completable. It's generally going to be better to make your game much less complicated so that you'll actually complete it. When you try to do complicated things you don't know how to do, it's easy to get stuck on that and not make any progress, which can often lead to you not finishing your project. If you find yourself stuck on something and can't get it figured out (hint: look online, lots of things you might find difficult or not know how to do have been figured out and answered), try and make it simpler or if you can, cut it out all together. You might be surprised to see that your simpler game is actually pretty good anyway. :)

I never finish my games, but since it was fun to mess with them I believe they were a success nonetheless.

Do what I did and bring friends along. Well I was kinda brought along by friends.

Happy accidents sound so hilarious. Have my upvote

"There are no mistakes, just happy accidents" -Bob Ross

Heeeey! I'm not a video game :P

Is that also what we call babies?

I loved watching Bob Ross paint, and his ongoing commentary always made me smile.

I don't really get it.

cmck ok. /all worth whatever that is

What is it? I'm on mobile.

HTGML - HyperText Game Making Language

Agree, Amateur is the ideal word. And is not pejorative unless you use it that way. Also, in Spanish, for example, it does not have a negative connotation (usually).

I think it is a lot like Undertale, where the success was some phenomenal that, in a weird way, two things happened. A) It because cliche to use them as examples and B) they wanted to raise awareness for other games!

It was. but he spent an obscene amount of time on it, like up to 10 hours each day for 4 years. And he is working even harder now, currently implementing multiplayer support and bugfixing.

both of those games got kick started. so h technically it is professional

Yes Like 10 years.

Reminds me of the development of Cave Story. You should play that if you haven't, by the way. The original non-Steam PC version is free and it's great.

Good managers

A cat cooking Instant noodles

Botw

Nite they also don’t have proper sleeping schedules, it’s kinda getting out of hand.

Those are 2 things

stone-baked-games.itch.io/clever-girl ;)

Thank you! :)

No problem. It was a big surprise to me that it got a mention in this video, so I hope a few more folks get to enjoy it.

HAHA!

Chris Oake That's an awesome idea!

Chris Oake Yes please, I am all for this! 😄

Nathanael Wisecup That sounds like a game I would play!

Here is the link to purchase the demo www.thegamecrafter.com/games/spiritual-warfare:-the-deck-building-evangelistic-demo There is full game available on the same site :)

Maybe someday, you'll start on a project that becomes THE GREAT LIFE CHANGING INDIE GAME. You never know if you'll be the next Notch!

stone-baked-games.itch.io/clever-girl ;)

I seriously love how you're going around sharing that link dude. My freaking hero!

Haha! Well, a bit of self promotion never hurt, right?

You could probably lump in Undertale too, although considering that game had a Kickstarter, I’m not sure if you can call it a personal project instead of an indie project...

snekboi Though Undertale was a side project, it was targeted towards an audience.

flappy birds is a quickly made not professional not a well-planned game. people made tons of copies since it is very easy to make.

dwarf fortress

Undertale was not just a hobby game. Toby Fox invested much money in that game. Many people donated to Undertale.

Undertale feels more like paid passion. It's true that Toby did a vast majority of the work, but he always had a wider audience in mind, which can be seen in the actual game. Still a good example of a non professional game making it big

Yes, I would like to purchase one art please!

Well... tecnicaly there are 13 arts, so "an" is correct

Google " game jam" and see what comes up! :) Sign up immediately if you find something, it'll be an adventure. Otherwise consider online efforts. If you can arrange for a group of 1-4 friends, meeting over the weekend someplace can be just as great. My favorite online jams: ludumdare.com/

You can easily set one up on GameJolt.

Asger, it sounds like you know a lot about this kinda thing???

gamesdisk Same, but school and parents...

You can find jams online! I'm trying my first jam next week.

fuck you

how dare you

What did i do

happy little friends. happy little friends

lol, i get it

They mentioned portfolios at 4:04

Jeremy Saklad But Undertale was also crowdfunded.

no? Both undertale and superhot were crowdfunded

Weegee McDonut33 he said started. Undertale demo wasn’t. Not sure about super hot tho.

1. Acquire the knowledge. Resources for coding, art, and 3d modeling are all over the internet. Read, try, read it from somewhere else, try again. 2. Yes anyone can sell games on steam. If you've been on their indie game store you can see the mountain of personal game projects. You can charge or offer it for free.

1) Depending on what kind of game you want to make, different skill sets will be required. For example, I am a 3D environment artist. I am lousy at character art, and my programming skills are minimal, so my personal projects tend to more more Myst like puzzle games. Companies like Epic (Unreal Engine) and Unity really want to grow their customer base, and both have been making big strides to make sure resources are available for people to learn their engines. You can find an abundance of tutorials out there for both. 2) Here is a FAQ on submitting games to steam: steamcommunity.com/workshop/about/?appid=765&section=faq I haven't done it personally, but there are hoops to jump through. Presumably they do this to keep people from submitting multitudes of low quality games on a daily bases and flooding their market with garbage.

Are there any user-friendly tools basically anyone could acquire and use? I mean, I hate to admit it, but somehow I tend to not get how supposedly easily usable programs work, and if I do, I just figure out one or two basic functions and stick with these, which highly limits the variety of things I can do with this program.

Follow Tom Francis' tutorial series to using GameMaker: Studio Tom Francis made Gunpoint

While I'm not really qualified to answer your questions, let me try. if you really want to make games, any sort of game, you can try making a pen and paper game or invent a new card game, or even something with gestures like the new 1-2 switch. if you are set on Electronic games, you can try a text based adventure for example or I've heard that game maker is free and easy to use, even for someone with 0 scripting experience. as for the Ideas, well that is up to you. Also remember that mostly all games are systems with rules, if you have an Idea, make sure to develop the rules it should follow. As for your second question, if you are not thinking of making profit, then simply go to a game related forum and post your game, there is also newgrounds and I keep hearing about a site called Good old Games (GoG), Steam has or had greenlight but you should look it up, as for the entry barrier on steam, I once heard about a game that was actually just malicious code so... it shouldn't be that hard to enter. Lastly I'm pretty sure that EC has a lot of videos about programming, designing and publishing games. so spend a whole day watching all the EC videos and you may find what you are looking for. best regards and good luck!

I should have checked comments. They linked the dino one stone-baked-games.itch.io/clever-girl ITS CALLED CLEVER GIRL LOL

As a dev with no graphical skills, I think the artist would have more creative freedom than me.

@@iluan_ if you're talking about creative freedom for making games then you're damn wrong. A programmer can put together a game with some crappy art, but if you can't code then you can't make anything. If the artist learns to code, then they're not just an artist anymore, they're a programmer too.

@@iluan_ - there is artistry in making your own stick figures "live" and react with the code you write! I'm similar to you but always making chicken scratch sprites instead of clip art - cool payoff to see them move by your dev fuctions!

Cero Cornizard i did an online paper on that topic once.

Could you link me to it? i'd love to read it

If you are still looking for something, a quick google brings up several results. Here's one from bbc www.bbc.com/news/technology-33960075

man, Katawa Shoujo is like the only project that I know of where are bunch of 4chan anons got together and made a fully and rather quite good/compelling imo visual novel/game , getting Mike Inel do the animations was the cherry top in the cake

I have to admit I played it a long time ago simply for the lewd scenes. When the first lewd scene popped up I was so captured by the actual plot and characters that I immediately skipped it because it felt like unnecessary filler. Good stuff.

Does anyone know how to get shizune's unreleased route for mac I heard it was amazing.

+Ricardo Santos My question was about what direction most Amateurs do (or should) approach game development from. How crucial, for expanding your game development toolbox of skills, is learning how to modify games that are far more complicated than what you can build yourself? And I hope you know, many Mods do far more than just rearrange furniture.

I'm pretty sure you could consider it similarly as the description in the video. Often when I'd make a mod, I'd become so engrossed in my own little custom corner of the world it was almost like making a game in itself but IMO it is more rewarding personally when you've built it from a pre-made engine yourself, (when it's not crashing), I think I'd like to try making something again but I still feel a bit intimidated to build an engine on my own.. If only I knew of a pre-made engine that's legal to distribute after being modified (which includes the features I'm looking for)

I read somewhere that it was the first steps in game creation for many. It gave them a better understanding of how games are made and gave the inspiration to make their own games. Remember modding is not just adding assets to a game. Some modders modify game code, create scripts (eg AI in Age of Empires), made completely different games out of them, and have even finished games that the creators were unable to do. There is a lot to modding than meets the eye. It can give you a glimpse into the world of game development than not everyone knows about. eg: www.pcgamer.com/after-14-years-an-aoe2-fan-mod-becomes-an-official-expansion/