"Lets Luthor Harkon shoot his overcharged loads into the unguarded flanks of his enemies." AHAAAAA THE BLOOD RUNS COLD WE TAKE YOUR LOOT AND SHOOT OUR LOADS
The majority of Luthor Harkon lore was established in the 6th edition, so it preceeded Pirates of the Caribbean by at least 3 years. As usual, if anyone has the right to sue it's GW.
People are just so used to GW st--borrowing heavily from other sources that it's natural for Cody to make that assumption. So I went back to 4th edition, it mentions him but just a small blurb about Norse from Skeggi finding him and then him forming the Vampire Coast in the Undead. A Drako Harkon is mentioned in 2001 Vampire Counts 6th edition but the full "lore" I'm seeing IS from that White Dwarf in 2005. Open to being disproven.
@@codybonds When your copyright enforcement becomes overzealous and incurs the wrath of the EU's copyright judges who then proceed to nullify your copyright and due to treaties with the EU propagates that nullification to the US? I mean, this was the full scope of the TPP treaty which we advocated and then backed out of even though a similar one was signed with the EU in the form of the TTIP.
@@codybonds True, they harassed the makers of Kimba the White lion to not release any more Kimba films in the West, despite Disney being the ones who outright stole everything from characters to scenery for Lion King.
Luthor Harkon is that guy in your D&D group that has been the backbone of your quest from the off, only to allow the entire party to be killed by goblin mercs Later discovery finds out he planned it beforehand so you'd be out of his apartment before the pizza arrived.
@@codybonds Actually harbourmaster would but you in a really good position for piracy. Greedy, thieving, knowing a thing or two about ships and bossing everyone else around to do the hard work . Sailing is what a crew is for. I mean before taking up sailing, Edward Teach was thought to have been a merchant from a wealthy family.
@@dominicmanester8125 Also there's the fact a lot of inexperienced people became the most famous pirates like Bucaneers who were just simple snack sellers (they sold things like rats grilled on a buca to hungry merchants) before deciding that straight up robbing their customers was more profitable. Most pirates started out as outcasts, vagabonds or merchants before choosing the life at sea and even women were welcome as part of the crew or even captains on equal terms. The history of pirates is a really interesting one
@@dominicmanester8125 There's a vast difference between knowing the logistics of a harbor and having the nautical skill to chart a course on the open sea and away from the sinky kind of storm, reefs, the thousands of murderous sea monsters in Warhammer II, Navy Patrols, procurement and securing of supplies, knowing the state of your vessel and reading the signs of deteriorating wood, rigging, not even mentioning that he also has manage a city and an armada which includes lengthy communication lines and a whole different kind of logistical knowledge. Y'all are severely underestimating how much skill it takes to sail a ship. Not to mention he has to micromanage most of these tasks because most of his crew consists of brain-dead fish fodder. He's nowhere near qualified not to mention the biggest flaw, he's a ducking vampire in need of a constant supply of fresh blood, which newsflash, is not plentiful on the high seas. Basically there's a very good reason this is a niche character in a niche publication of a niche magazine.
"Gentlemen, milady. You will always remember this as the day that you almost caught Arch-Grand Commodore Luthor Harkon!" Funny thing about Harkon, you could give him Jack Sparrow, Barbossa, Davy Jones, and Salazar's dialogue and it'd just be different personalities of Harkon talking. Seriously out of all the Warhammer Fantasy characters out there, after Gotrek and Felix, a miniseries on Luthor Harkon and the Vampire Pirates would kick so much ass, if done right.
@@arnantphongsatha7906 unfortunately he wasn't too relevant on tabletop either. Closest thing was him having a small spotlight in the End Times and for a tabletop battle he was in, he's just a vampire lord
@@Jeff_the_Hobo Also that they were, before that, the best of friends and Malekith promised on Grombrindal's death bed to keep the peace that the two had built together in their respective empires. So, quite literally, Grombrindal is Obi-Wan Kenobi to Malekith's Anakin Skywalker. "You were my brother, Malekith! I loved ya!"
Ever since the option to willingly abandon settlements got added, I expect a lot of people playing Luthor these days just burn down his starting province for the insurance money and sail off into the sunset...
Would be nice but his starting province is really good economically. It's just having to endlessly defend it by pushing inland instead of, well, being a damn pirate.
@@OriginalRAB I jsut push down the coastline and finance some trash stacks to keep the lizard and rat infestations at bay while ol' Luthor goes sailing around the world wrecking people's days and establishing pirate coves in their backyards. Also, mugging Aranessa and Noctilus for their properties.
Aranessa would be interesting. A living pirate and her living pirate crew in a faction of bloodsucking vampires. Why? ...well her dad got her some undead crewmembers for her sweet 16. Who is her dad? Well he is Manaan, God of the Sea. Which makes Aranessa a very strange member of a VAMPIRE faction... being a demi-goddess.
Manaan isn't Aranessa's real father though, more like her adopted dad. However, ever since I started playing with her I can't shake the impression that she's basically some spoiled rich daddy's girl and I love it.
That was a really lazy move on part of CA. It also decreased chances of southern realms appearing. I wish we could get one more actual vampire pirate, or at least some freaky mutated captain, something like davy jones. I wonder how many people played aranessa and cylostra vs luthor and noctilus
aren't like star dragon very fucking rare? It's not like every vampire cunt can go a do the thing or harvest them like cattle the same way they do with humans
Sometimes I'll get frustrated with the game, but then the Vampirates will spawn an NPC named 'Dick Bootysnatcher' and I end up playing for another four hours.
@@galling2052 after some books I got genuinely sick with it because it's always done without the horrific shit and non-mesoamerican twists which is what I like in fiction
Now I'm just imagining Harkon twitching violently and then yelling out "BIGGU BESS DA! WRYYYYYYY!" Though seriously, the lore about his coffin being looted by Norse and then him killing the crew is actually more from Dracula than from Jojo. Which is also where Araki got the idea from. Turns out a famous book about Vampires inspired other fiction about vampires. Go figure.
Random Techpriest demands? Knows! For no one dares to turn down a „request“ from the mighty Settra, king of kings, the imperishable, the unquestioned ruler of Khemri, the one, even Patra bowed to, the... (continue until Cody gives in and just makes the stupid guide)
@@ragnerschwarzmane3412 Brother, STC instructions unclear. My cyber-dong is stuck in this device once used to toast wheat products, please lend your aid praise be the Omnissiah.
Sebastian Thain trust me brother, after a bit of time like this, you don‘t want my help anymore! But maybe the Omnissia will yet be willing to help you if you praise him hard enough...
@@ragnerschwarzmane3412 I see, thank you Magos. I will pray for forgiveness for this stumble on my path to knowledge, my cyber-doing machine spirit is humming with holy vibrations thanks to your enlightenment.
Maybe, but Total Warhammer will never be complete without Nagash or Neferata and I will fight anyone who claims otherwise right here on top of this hill until I die.
Before the old ones left the world to its fate they left behind great prophecies to the lizard men warning them of challenges to come. Things like great demon invasions. The creation of the vortex. The dark elves becoming a thing. Luthor Harkon got an entire wall of an ancient temple all to himself. The old ones considered him a greater threat to the new world than most everchosen. By the end of the end times most people agree the badly underestimated him.
AHAH, THE BLOOD RUNS COLD WE TAKE OUR LOOT BUT DONT GET OLD YO, YO HO! YO, YO HO! ALL HAIL, THE MIGHTY! HES ARISIN FROM THE DEEP! WITH TATTERED SAILS! AND INCREDIBLE TALES! WERE CAUGHT IN ENDLESS SEAS!
Can you direct me to which book? Harkon is mentioned but little detail given in Undead army book 4th ed which is obv older. 6th ed rule book is 2000 but I'm not finding him there.
CA: “Ok, our focus group research shows that the most beloved movie franchise by men is Pirates of the Caribbean, the most beloved by women is Twilight and the most popular TV show right now is the Walking Dead, how do we capitalize on that?”
napoleon walking dead, one of the most funny factions in the game, melting those expensive high elves units in volleys of shots is an amazing sensation.
I really like both... I really dont like the war missions of Noctilus but other than that I think the Vampire Coast togheter with Tomb Kings are some of the best content in the game. Then again I really enjoy the undead... its just so rare having necromancy actually be necromancy in games... summoning armies of skeletons, zombies and such. In most games its just oh you get 2 skeletons or a flesh golem.
Maybe everyone knows, but relations with Luthor are so shaky. One turn he loves you and the next turn he could prepare to come to your house with some dead mfs. Its a great detail that helps make him seem crazy.
As a former sailor I appreciate you dropping the difference between boat and ship. Easy way to remember. Ship can carry a boat, but a boat cant carry a ship.
Basically: conquer the New world while raiding And stablishing pirate coves on the old world. And as you're going to be at war with everyone near water, you might as well grab the sword of khaine And keep It. This guys And the greenskins are the only ones that can make proper use of keeping that nuke.
> Bloated corpse blowing up my garrisioned swordmasters ( 2 units overlayed to block an entrance) > Looks at the unforunate men > 75 x 2 turns to a 10 and a 15, instant rout. > Feelsbloatedman
Funnily enough my Harkon campaign had me raid all of the Nehekharan coast in a niave attempt to keep Arkhan the Black alive before bee lining to the great pyramid for 8ts bonuses. There Luther harken stayed for eternity as endless high elf armies kept trying to assault it or the Vampire Coast defended by the only other army I could afford.... The biggest problem with Vampire Coast is they instinctively feel like you should play like a hoard faction on the seas but end up defending whatever territory you own on land.
Empire Total War is my second favourite, only problem with it was that I couldnt kill elves in it. Sure there's the French, but its not the same as sending a volley of lead into some pointy ear.
Hey I dont know if anyone else has pointed this out but I was under the impression that The Blood Dragon Line that hes from cant actually use the winds of magic, and he was trying to overcome that using slan tech.
Would you be willing to do one for Count Noctilus in the future? After I watched your guide to all the pirate lords I'm curious about the Dreadfleet but would like to know a bit more about his campaign before getting the VC DLC. Plus he's got the best origin story of the 4 pirate lords imo. Dude got sick of all the vampire high society squabbling and just said "F*ck this noise I'm gonna go be a pirate." XD
I want to see a noob's guide to Grombrindal the White dwarf. If just to see how many short guy jokes you can make up, also cause I love that lord. His blue abilities are just wonderful. He is a very Chad lord, helping all his dawi brothers. That and dwarves got such fun toys, burn em, blow em up, crush em with a rock, shoot them with a giant bolt, bomb em into the stone age and so on.
The main reason vampire pirated dosent make sense is that they would just have to let the shift drift during the day. Line it up the best you can, and hope the wind dosent change during the day I guess. It gets even worse when you consider that they could find themselves without blood for huge amounts of time if they don't find any ships; which is super likely because he can only sail half the day. All people would have to do is not sail through where he is at night, it would be pretty easy to just get huge headstarts and put run them. One pro of vampirates: They dont get scurvy. At least I assume they don't. Maybe they would if the people they fed on had scurvy, because where else would they get vitamin c? The scurvy thing has no created a hilarious headcannon for me: They capture people from ships, and force feed them oranges and limes for days before eating them. "Eat the damn lime already so I can eat you!"
