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Lap comparison between Max Verstappen and Lando Norris at Abu Dhabi
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@Zeep3
@Zeep3 10 месяцев назад
Amazing to see how Max is prioritizing exit speed of entry speed
@woodenhoe
@woodenhoe 10 месяцев назад
slow in fast out
@FormulaDynasty
@FormulaDynasty 10 месяцев назад
He does the opposite. He drives shorter corners.
@Acque__Minerali
@Acque__Minerali 10 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠​⁠@@FormulaDynastyhe turns early, and so he is on full throttle very early to… thats why he is so fast but his main priority is to extend his the coming straight
@FormulaDynasty
@FormulaDynasty 10 месяцев назад
@@Acque__Minerali He creates a angle wit his short cornering driving style to rotate the car earlier than other drivers, it also allows him to get on the throttle earlier yes. Max is all about carrying more corner entry speed and taking a shorter line (short cornering). Longer cornering is much slower (doesn't have a higher potential ceiling in terms of performance). Max, Oscar, Lance use short cornering but its the combination with creating an angle with the car with, trail braking and braking at the exact perfect spot that allows max to create these times; comparing to stroll he can't do that but he drives a shorter corner. Take Alonso for example, probably drives the longest corner out of anyone but he has mastered his driving style but it's not as fast as someone who has mastered short corners (max)
@martinhalaj9604
@martinhalaj9604 9 месяцев назад
Not really. You could look at any 2 laps like this (even in sim racing) and say the same thing. If they are at least a few meters apart, it will always look like the gap shortened under braking and extended at the exit. Even if they went through that corner identically. Same thing as the pit lane. Before the pit lane they can look far apart while in the pit lane they are much closer because of the reduced speed (same as in the middle of the corner)
@remnl
@remnl 10 месяцев назад
I think he could make p2/p3 if he didn't had that drift/slide. Allot of the drivers where fast in the first two sectors but the red bull made it up in the last sector.
@vebsettel5
@vebsettel5 10 месяцев назад
He would be def p2 the mclaren is also very good in last sector
@LucasDiep
@LucasDiep 10 месяцев назад
Actually the Mercedes of George Russell had the fastest final sector of Q3
@80famee
@80famee 9 месяцев назад
​@@LucasDiep was he forecasting a podium?
@SRFriso94
@SRFriso94 10 месяцев назад
I do feel it's an underdiscussed part of why Verstappen is doing so unbelievably well this season: he almost never makes mistakes. And on the rare occasion he does, he can make up for it, like sitting out the penalty in Las Vegas.
@askeladden450
@askeladden450 10 месяцев назад
Not taking all credit away from him, but when you are in the fastest car, you dont really need to push as hard as others. Lewis made less mistakes from 2014-2020 then he did in the last 2 seasons alone. Max was also making a lot of mistakes before he had the fastest car.
@ama6487
@ama6487 10 месяцев назад
Verstappen overshoot at the hairpin after S1 but still end up launching.
@elliottgould5114
@elliottgould5114 10 месяцев назад
Hard to make mistakes when u have a car that planted to the ground and u don’t need to push it to the complete limit
@wildwilco
@wildwilco 10 месяцев назад
@@askeladden450 ''the fastest car'' where is perez. if it was the fastest car by far (as many would love to claim: teamLH), the 2nd driver would always qualy in P2, and would finish in P2. just like we saw from 7 years Mercedes dominance. it was always a definitive p1-2 in qualy and race, the question was by how much. right now, its the DRIVER making the difference. all the cars are so incredibly close together, never ever in formula 1 history has the ENTIRE grid been this close together in qualy and race. and its the drivers making the difference. and as Dennis said after driving verstappens car, there is nothing special about the car. it drives like a normal racecar. both redbull rookies in both cars where really close together in FP1. to counter your 2014-2020 argument, lewis car was SO FAST, he could make a free pitstop after only 10 racing laps in every single track. together with his teammate. he was literally doing time trial with 100HP more than the rest of the field. but what a very clear example is, that now that hes actually having to race other drivers, he makes mistake after mistake. hes really terrible at wheel to wheel racing, and is only able to overtake with DRS. whenever he goes side by side into ANY corner, one of the drivers will end up in the gravel. the redbull cant make a free pitstop in any race so far. and it takes about an entire race distance for him to be 5-10 seconds in front of P2. he is sstill having to fight other drivers, unlike the mercedes drivers from 2014-2020
@askeladden450
@askeladden450 10 месяцев назад
@@wildwilco my comment went straight over your head didnt it? Missed my point by about 5 nautical miles.
@Shreejansurya98
@Shreejansurya98 10 месяцев назад
As a Ferrari fan I appreciate Max Verstappen, If you see how Consistent the max is. He approached that corner very differently and was not prone to make any mistakes Also People should realise that pace difference between RB, McLaren, Merc and Ferrari is not that huge in quali (Even tho RB has edge in race bcoz of Better Tyre Degradation)
@LeoSavantt
@LeoSavantt 10 месяцев назад
If a picture speaks a thousand words, that clip spoke a million. A huge amount of info, clear to see without punditry! Mc are nearly on the pace with RB, the front end looks good under braking, but the RB looks better getting on the power, whilst the Mc a little skittish.
@adamozmin8970
@adamozmin8970 10 месяцев назад
I think it has to be said that it’s the RB driven by Max. His style is so smooth and precise.
@slartibartfast2649
@slartibartfast2649 10 месяцев назад
You can see that Max vees off some of the corners more than Lando, which is why Lando gets ahead in the mid corner due to having a higher minimum speed, but drops back under acceleration because Max has a straighter run out of the corner.
@LeoSavantt
@LeoSavantt 10 месяцев назад
@@slartibartfast2649 True, much shorter corners, but the Mc isn't as good at getting on the power generally, whereas braking it looks rock solid.
@davidc.w.2908
@davidc.w.2908 10 месяцев назад
The McLaren is faster on this track. At least in a single lap. Max just slightly lowers the speed into the corners, so he can get on the throttle sooner. This gives him more control and less chance of losing the rear. Lando would have taken pole without his mistake.
@thelearningmachine_
@thelearningmachine_ 10 месяцев назад
​@@davidc.w.2908good point, and I think Max drivestyle also helps to wear tyres a bit less, lower speed in search for a bigger angle sooner (V corners instead of U corners). His cars are designed to be massive oversteered (which Checo struggles), to turn-in fast to do the V corners, exactly the way he is driving in this video.
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw 10 месяцев назад
Incredible analysis of these two drivers. Thank you for your time and effort to share this with us all. Much appreciated.
@nicholastotoro7721
@nicholastotoro7721 10 месяцев назад
So, he realistically had no shot at pole, but British media gonna' be British media.
@temmmy
@temmmy 10 месяцев назад
thx to show us this
@Miragexe
@Miragexe 10 месяцев назад
Max just always performs, that's just something many other drivers lack, they might have a great weekend but often they also have many bad ones and average ones.. for Max they're all great weekends and even in difficult ones like Singapore he maximizes them.
@ElBastardo74
@ElBastardo74 9 месяцев назад
The most I get from this is to see how different their cornering technique is. I would not be surprised if the McLaren would be the faster car, but that the difference in technique made Max actually get more from the RedBull.
@ryche.rising
@ryche.rising 10 месяцев назад
The difficulty is the same for everyone, the RB actually is harder to drive in low speed corners making the Verstappen’s performance incredible.
@srthebox4946
@srthebox4946 10 месяцев назад
So he wasnt really ahead by much at all until that mistake
@zenthous9568
@zenthous9568 10 месяцев назад
He still might have made pole or 2nd
@razinroslan1473
@razinroslan1473 10 месяцев назад
@@zenthous9568 He already went wide at turn 12, zero chance he would have a better turn 13 than Verstappen. So he would not have had pole even without that moment.
@zenthous9568
@zenthous9568 10 месяцев назад
@@razinroslan1473 still 2nd then
@razinroslan1473
@razinroslan1473 10 месяцев назад
@@zenthous9568 Possible that the compromised entry would have lost him quite some time still since his exit would have been quite bad, so can't be too sure either honestly.
@zenthous9568
@zenthous9568 10 месяцев назад
@@razinroslan1473 yeah, I think he would’ve made either p2 or p3
@valconir1619
@valconir1619 10 месяцев назад
Very close second if he hadn’t made that mistake
@filipecardozo
@filipecardozo 10 месяцев назад
Max is so much smoother on corners thats why his tires last the full lap. Watch how noris and Leclerc are faster going into corners hence forcing the tires more. That's pure genious
@Foxhunter_DE
@Foxhunter_DE 9 месяцев назад
That are different driving styles. Max is pushing more at the exit, Norris more on the entry. Both hurts the tires.
@kriaz9916
@kriaz9916 9 месяцев назад
the fact he kept up in a slower car is insane, future champion i swear
@0xym0re82
@0xym0re82 10 месяцев назад
Where do you take your music from ?
@davidcagle920
@davidcagle920 10 месяцев назад
you rule for making this kinda stuff, where do you get the data from?
@Ada_Vok
@Ada_Vok 10 месяцев назад
I was waited more this video than the race.
@caskraker
@caskraker 10 месяцев назад
The master of exit strikes again.
@terencevangaalen4127
@terencevangaalen4127 10 месяцев назад
Thing is, would he have been as fast if he hadn't made the mistake. Because the mistake comes from living on the edge, but that also delivered the speed to keep up/close. Nice images though, fun to watch Max slow down earlier, but then shooting out of the corner getting ahead again.
@sjakie49
@sjakie49 9 месяцев назад
Besides, in the previous corner, max had a better exit to prepare for the corner in which Lando slipped.
@bjrnchrstn
@bjrnchrstn 9 месяцев назад
Max preserved his tires.
@Luke-en2tk
@Luke-en2tk 10 месяцев назад
The slow section he made the mistake was where the Red Bull(Max) was gaining most their time, nobody could match him through there
@Alonso_The_GOAT
@Alonso_The_GOAT 10 месяцев назад
Leclerc had purple minisectors there and the fastest S3 though.
@Luke-en2tk
@Luke-en2tk 10 месяцев назад
@@Alonso_The_GOAT that's because he did a better lap
@jyothiss3728
@jyothiss3728 10 месяцев назад
how do these guys get this data, like how are they able to simulate it so accurately or is all time based simulation ??
@thegreatafrican3367
@thegreatafrican3367 9 месяцев назад
I mean Norris makes a LOT of mistakes so this is not surprising
@anish91000
@anish91000 10 месяцев назад
mistakes or excuses who cares.. Max is inevitable..
@biila2535
@biila2535 10 месяцев назад
it cost a life
@tarisaimusariri6930
@tarisaimusariri6930 9 месяцев назад
lando was really b rave on the brakes,.... he then lost the rear n created the gap
@TheOneAboveYou
@TheOneAboveYou 10 месяцев назад
average McLaren always fast at the end of the season
@paulsilas6037
@paulsilas6037 10 месяцев назад
S he was never ahead..
@gopr3117
@gopr3117 10 месяцев назад
The Red Bull makes up its time on the straights. Funny how Horner use to criticise Mercedes saying Lewis only had to put his foot down on the straights while Max had to go fast through the corners
@jos3309
@jos3309 10 месяцев назад
That was in a time where mercedes made up 0,7 seconds on the straights in a single lap compared to redbul, here it is like 0,1 or 0,2 sec max.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 10 месяцев назад
Merc was THE DOMINATING ENGINE, with the RB19 is the dominating AERO DESIGN….huge difference!!!
@gnotgnelf3738
@gnotgnelf3738 10 месяцев назад
It only makes time up on the straights because Max prioritzes corner exit speed over corner entry speed. Just think about it for 5 seconds before you post stuff
@mcb0b1
@mcb0b1 10 месяцев назад
It doesn’t make up time on the straights. All the time is made up on corner exit.
@RicardoVargas-dy9tf
@RicardoVargas-dy9tf 8 месяцев назад
Norris was close but Max just took the turns in a superb manner.🤌
@Vessel-v875
@Vessel-v875 10 месяцев назад
While not having a big chance at pole, it was still an outstanding performance until the mistake considering he was against Max in a red bull while driving the McLaren.
@SDGRTX1455
@SDGRTX1455 10 месяцев назад
Bruh.... keep crying
@Keagan1007
@Keagan1007 10 месяцев назад
McLaren has come a long ways in two years. Development in the second half of this season has really improved the pace on some tracks.
@5950ziel
@5950ziel 10 месяцев назад
you're sounding as if Norris was in Bahrain McLaren spec.
@justusbeweel1109
@justusbeweel1109 10 месяцев назад
The McLaren isn’t much slower in the QF setting. The rb 19 strength is the race trim, I.e. taking care of the tires while being fast on the straights without as much downforce as others. They are difficult to overtake and extremely strong in clean air. In the QF Ferrari and McLaren aren’t much slower if at all when we look at checo. You can’t tell me that max isn’t getting that extra tenth by himself.
@cellsentinel239
@cellsentinel239 10 месяцев назад
@@Keagan1007 the development you are talking about is literally making a RB19 knockoff. I love mclaren but I hoped they would resort to a original solution instead of making a orange bull. If not they will never beat reb bull for the 1st place
@MintCops
@MintCops 10 месяцев назад
Awesome content thank you
@sergioferrero46
@sergioferrero46 10 месяцев назад
Amazing job as always. As a suggestion, you could colour the track map with each car's color to show track dominance
@FrancisFjordCupola
@FrancisFjordCupola 10 месяцев назад
I think "dominance" is a great exaggeration for a few thousands. Quicker, yes. Dominant? If we slap together all the long runs and there is a definitive difference, then perhaps, maybe yes.
@sergioferrero46
@sergioferrero46 10 месяцев назад
@@FrancisFjordCupola I think you didn't understand. What I mean is that, when the dots move through the track map, leaving a coloured trace behind them with the color of the car that is going faster at any given point gives us a good idea of each driver/car combo strengths and weaknesses. It's a graph commonly shown by AWS on the F1 broadcast
@fruitygranulizer540
@fruitygranulizer540 9 месяцев назад
@@FrancisFjordCupola "track dominance" is just a term for which parts of the track a certain car is ahead of the other.
@blaise2833
@blaise2833 10 месяцев назад
Didn't really matter, he wouldn't have gotten pole either way.
@robvoncken2565
@robvoncken2565 10 месяцев назад
even if we all know who will win the race
@dragstoneg
@dragstoneg 10 месяцев назад
Underrated
@vickolous
@vickolous 10 месяцев назад
is there any way you could add car telemetry to the videos? showing the throttle and brake traces
@rustyfox81
@rustyfox81 5 месяцев назад
Wow, this analysis is so much better than the Sky pad !!!
@twigsagan3857
@twigsagan3857 10 месяцев назад
Max always gives us entry speed for exit speed. It is a bit counterintuitive, but that is why he is better. Also, he needs a lot less corrections than the others. Not really obvious in this lap, but if you compare him to LeClerc this weekend it is obvious.
@crabnix
@crabnix 10 месяцев назад
Why is it counterintuitive? It has always been "slow in, fast out" for faster lap times. Also I completely agree with your second point, he is a smooth mf
@twigsagan3857
@twigsagan3857 10 месяцев назад
@@crabnix well, let me rephrase, it feels good to enter the corner with speed. In that way I meant intuitive. You have to go against your own urges to keep it going till the last moment.
@crabnix
@crabnix 10 месяцев назад
@@twigsagan3857 oh okay makes sense. Yes it's a bit counterintuitive if you think of it from a "non-racing" point of view. But that is one of the reasons we enjoy this sport :)
@boostav
@boostav 10 месяцев назад
LOL, he needs a lot less corrections because of the car he's driving. The Ferrari is nowhere near as stable.
@twigsagan3857
@twigsagan3857 10 месяцев назад
@@boostav Eh, corrections should never be needed, you need to stay within the limits of your car as that is the fastest. A correction is ALWAYS slower. Max is staying within the limits of his car. LeClerc would be wise to do so too.
@spektrumB
@spektrumB 10 месяцев назад
Norris keeps making silly mistakes when he has the car to challenge pole. Very frustrating.
@richardvi
@richardvi 10 месяцев назад
Looking forward to a more closer fight in 2024 between Max and Lando.
@TheEathos
@TheEathos 10 месяцев назад
How have I missed this channel completely until now?
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 10 месяцев назад
He had asked TOO MUCH of his tyres and THAT made the mistake happen. It was inevitable. There is NO IF. Had he asked less of his tyres in the first 2 sectors, he wouldn’t have been that fast after 2 sectors. So it would never have been pole
@parisgansmuelly1052
@parisgansmuelly1052 10 месяцев назад
Correct. And this is something Max himself addressed, when talking about making sure he had enough tires for the last sector.
@dudefromthebackrooms3306
@dudefromthebackrooms3306 10 месяцев назад
Imagine braking later but still accelerating earlier and faster. That RB 19 is untouchable
@cristiandumitrescu1744
@cristiandumitrescu1744 10 месяцев назад
This is like the 3rd time that McLaren bottled possible wins due to Lando's own errors in qualifying in my opinion.This(maybe),Mexico and the biggest one Qatar in which he was clearly the fastest car in the grid but started 10th, in the end he was just 6 sec away from P1.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe 10 месяцев назад
Watch this video again. There was no pole there.
@darkraig7378
@darkraig7378 10 месяцев назад
"possible wins" ☠️
@cristiandumitrescu1744
@cristiandumitrescu1744 10 месяцев назад
@@darkraig7378 in Qatar 100%, he had the possibility to win starting in front position, remember that he fought his way till he was behind piastri(and he was faster), in Qatar Max was very vulnerable from McLaren (just remember the sprint)
@cristiandumitrescu1744
@cristiandumitrescu1744 10 месяцев назад
@@MohamedLamkhizni in Qatar yes, in the others it's more like a maybe
@cristiandumitrescu1744
@cristiandumitrescu1744 10 месяцев назад
@@wreagfe he was side by side in a sector in which McLaren was on par(or even slightly faster) with the RB, and even if he was P2, that's still a chance for the GP.
@Bananananananannananananna
@Bananananananannananananna 10 месяцев назад
Tbh with that mistake he was still pretty close. Imagine if he nailed that corner. If not pole then he would be insanely close to max. That too in a mclaren.
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