yeah, i always find these "real thoughts" videos difficult to watch cause they can be so awkward. i think "sibling rivalry" really was a better title for this segment
If you look at this chart, it represents the amount of money we could make grows proportionately to the distance we travel away from the source material. Unfortunately, this time, the chart was wrong. Next up is Assassin's Creed the Movie, but without the Animus. Or the Assassin's. Or the Templars. With extra Kanye and product placement in it.
How sad...one of the writers of the original source material turned down by the director of "Justin Bieber: Never Say Never." I could not think of a scenario more ludicrous in the film industry than this.
Remo Williams No - the voice actress was the one who introduced them on stage. The one asking about the group's name was the original creator/writer of the 80s cartoon.
That was even a bigger insult to her. "Hey, you can't have any control over the intellectual property that you created, but we'll give you a cameo in the movie. That's fair, right? Right?" No, it isn't.
The fact that the makers of the movie asked fans of the original Jem cartoon to send videos of why they love the cartoon and editing them to make it look like they're praising that movie which has 0% to do with what they love has to be one of the worst, most insulting manipulation techniques ever employed in a motion picture.
In the cartoon, Jerrica disguised herself as Jem to keep her identities separate. She ran a foster home and a record label and became Jem to put on concerts. The cartoon Jem was likable because she was a responsible, humble, tough businesswoman who went out of her way to help others. The show had a lot of depth. Fuck, one of the Starlight kids even had a drug addiction because her classmate gave her pills. Roxy couldn't read and Pizzazz's mother abandoned her as a child, which is why she's such a bitch. The movie just took everything the show had to offer and was like, "Nah. Fuck the fans. We're going Cheetah Girls on this script!" It was insulting.
I have to agree with Rob on this one...I think movies can only be funny-bad when the people behind it actually care or are trying. That's why something like The Room or Birdemic is funny, because their directors are delusional and think they are actually "filmmakers". Something like The Amazing Bulk or, in this case, Jem- aren't funny because they are soulless and you can tell nobody gave a shit. RLM actually explains it much better than I can on one of their episodes of Best of the Worst. :D
Red Letter Media; the people who did the Plinket starwars prequel reviews (among other things). Best of the worst is a pretty good youtube series of theirs.
Don't forget Cool Cat Saves the Kids and Plan 9 from Outer Space as "funny-bad" movies. I haven't seen the Bulk (and I never, NEVER intend to), but Jem and Cat in the Hat (which I think is worse than Jem when it comes to shitting on the source material, though that may be because I care far more about Dr. Seuss than the Jem cartoon) are just awful. Then there's a category of films that fit the requirements of "funny-bad", ie the directors trying and failing, but are so offensive that they are not, and thus I consider them to be below the bottom of the barrel. My prime examples are Garbage Pail Kids, Foodfight, Smosh the Movie, Attack of the Jurassic Shark, and Baby Geniuses (the second one actually does have a few funny bad moments). All of these had the potential to be so bad they're good, but just aren't.
+Leeroy TheArtist Actually, James Ngyuen DID try to make the film seriously. It's just everyone else in the crew (including the cast this time) were in on the joke. This is made very clear by the tracks of commentary on the Birdemic 2 DVD. I am not even joking.
I'm kinda glad I didn't grow up with this show... ...because that means there's one less live-action remake to *hurt* me. (For me, the one that really hurt was Shyamalan's _Last Airbender_ movie)
I'm a millennial, I didn't grow up with Jem, and I can still tell you this film was terrible. I don't think a cheaper made film has EVER been released in theaters! They used GOOGLE MAPS in some scenes! Not even some fan films on the internet are that cheap! Not to mention when they threw a bunch of unrelated interviews together and tried to convince us they were talking about Jem. Hollywood, stop ruining shows from people's childhoods to try and appeal to the new generation through dated pop culture references and jokes! MAKE ORIGINAL MATERIAL! I know this is unrelated, but no one wants a gender swap of Ghostbusters, just make a new film with an all female cast if you must! STOP RUINING CLASSICS AND MAKE YOUR OWN!
axis1247 Why does it need a subtitle or anything? Robocop didn't. Total Recall didn't. The Italian Job didn't. Scarface isn't "Brian DePalma's Scarface" or "Scarface: The Remake". It's just "Scarface". You can just call it "the original" and "the 2016 film"
What about what they did with Chris Pratt? They copy and pasted part of an interview where he was joking about dating his sister's dolls back when he was a kid,,(one of which was Jem). Then they took it and made it seem like he said he was dating the main character. That's low.
I'll say this right now: this movie is a less faithful adaptation and more disrespectful representation of its source than The Last Airbender. Yea, I went there.
I'd actually be surprised if anyone disagreed with you. At least that movie had bending, the four nations, and the war with the Fire Nation. This is like Transformers, without the robots! Ninja Turtles, without teenagers, mutants, or ninjas! Ben 10, without the watch that turns him into aliens!
+Dragon Sword Oh my god, I forgot about the live action Ben 10! I loved Alien Force, didn't watch any of the other series, but never saw the movie. Was it bad?
+ajzeg01 Not really bad. I'm not that big a fan of Race Against Time, but it's still okay. I liked Alien Swarm more. But both movies are better than this trash because they actually embrace the source material. I once read that there were plans for a theatrical movie, but that was years ago, so it's probably been scrapped.
I'm a millennial and it made me hate my generation. The worst part for me is that when you watch the movie you can somehow actually tell that the corporation behind this was actually super proud of this movie like they legit put it out there thinking "yes success. we got you.This is what young people nowadays like." I feel insulted and I didn't even know Jem and The Holograms.
As a member of gen Z, at least it took a movie made by an older generation, for you to get angry at your own generation. My generation practically does it all itself.
I'm actually a millennial who has seen every single episode of Jem and the Holograms multiple times over. I can easily say just watching the trailer made me want to vomit. After seeing the Nostalgia Critic review I thought that was enough for the movie for me to get a good idea that what it was about. I hate that movie with a passion and so does my mom, the woman who show me every single episode of Jem and the Holograms. the worst part I think was them demoting synergy. I thought she was the coolest supercomputer ever and the fact that they made her this stupid dancing robot was disgusting.
I went to go see this movie opening day and I was literally the only person in the theater. I ended up having a blast because I was able to yell at the screen at how much of an abomination this movie is.
Me and my sister had a similar experience when we went in to see a Eddie Murphy movie a thousand words. It was forgettable but at least it wasn't the jem movie.
well Disney live movies been a hit or miss(I like jungle book and maleficent) but it think Disney wouldn't touch that since it too recent in their vault.
I'm a millenial (13) and this movie sucks ass. I love nostalgia and classic film and cartoons, and I was ashamed at how this represents my demographic. I'm just ashamed.
What they did with Synergy is nothing short of tragic. Synergy is supposed to be intelligent enough to be a mentor and friend, almost a mother figure. Infact she was designed to look like Jerrica's mom. I mean Synergy was the backbone or the gimmick to Jem's appeal. I mean with holography being used in live performances today (think of Hatsune Miku) they could have done SO much, made it SO much cooler - but they abandoned everything that made the show cool. It had the potential to be bad ass and they failed so hard. What made Jem so fun when I was a kid was that this ordinary down on her luck girl could transform her look entirely - like Sailor Moon, it was a transformation and she could show her true self but anonymously almost. I think the idea is that as herself, no one would give her a second glance but with technology she could transform entirely. The concept could totally be transformed in to something today's generation could relate to. What they did in this movie was disappointing to the point of being disgusting.
I'm 22, and I hate being identified as a millennial. Especially since you 80s and 90s kids ruined everything anyway. At least I got my Samurai Jack, Avatar and Justice League.
Those Scooby Doo movies have NOTHING to do with the original cartoon and they make us who grew up with the original cartoon cringe. It pains us that some kids first experience with Scooby Do was those horrible movies.
+BlackburnBigdragon Not to overwrite, but I grew up with the vhs version of the original Scooby and I still like the movie. It helps that they make a new series every 5 years and the characters still barely have personalities.
I feel like it'd be a tad easy to beat up on; its yet another low budget kids movie that makes back its entire budget when only a couple tens of thousands go to see it.
You have to have most of your childhood or teens to be a millenial. If you were born in 1985, you wouldnt spent much time in the 2000s. I hope im not wrong.
Considdering the Millennial Generation is from birthyears between around 1980 to around 2000, you're both right. Though I'd rather call myself Generation "Y" than walk around with a name like "millennial".
At least Pixels looked interesting and had good special effects, despite the terrible writing and unfocused plot. This shit is stodgy, boring, the music is stuff you'd hear on the Disney channel, and has no idea what it's doing with its property.
Camilo Gomez There is sadly a fandom on the other Jem fan pages on Facebook even though they are originally about the animated series. There is a Boycott The Jem Movie on Facebook as well where you can at least give your opinion about why you don't like the movie. I'm a member of almost all the Jem fan pages, but I didn't care for the movie. :o)
I actually did not grow up with Jem and the Holograms, it ended the year I was born, but I did watch the series a few years ago and I really enjoyed it. It was kind of a guilty pleasure but it was cute and fun and even though I had never seen it as a kid it had a nostalgic feel to it and I liked it. I can't bring myself to watch this movie, I read the synopsis and I was like "This isn't Jem and the Holograms, it is just some crappy teenage girl-power, chick-flick abomination. THEY CAN'T BE THE HOLOGRAMS WITHOUT THE FREAKING HOLOGRAM! The heck is this?!"I think Hannah Montana would be a better adaptation of Jem and the Holograms than the Jem and the Holograms movie. On a side note, apparently Rob and I have a similar definition for millennial and we are both wrong according to a google search. I guess millennials are anyone born from the early 1980's to about 2000. Well I definitely never included myself as a millennial and I was born in 1988. Yuck, I feel gross now.
A parody/homage like the Brady Bunch movie is exactly the way to go. Make a film that the fans can embrace with all the murder attempts, music videos and bad 80's fashions, Or better yet, adapt the IDW comic, which manages to take the concept (silliness and all) and runs with it.
I would rather watch Nickelodeon's "ALVVVVVIIN" television series with my eyes held open like in the movie Clockwork Orange than have to spend two hours watching the bastardization that is Jem and the Holograms.
Does anyone remember how the Ghostbusters cartoon was pushing cthulu mythology on kids. That is something you won't get in children's programming these days.
Ben 10 Ultimate Alien featured a cult that worshiped a creature that is obviously based off Cthulu. Why would that be a problem for cartoons today? It's just a fictional monster.... This is going to get a lot replies on how disturbing Cthulu is, isn't it?
There is a reason that Jerrica chose to keep her identity a secret. 1) privacy reasons (Jerrica has a good dozen foster kids to take care of. Stardom wouldn't give those girls a chance to grow up outside of the papparazzi). 2) Rio is an insanely jealous boyfriend; ready to throw down the moment another man so much as blinks at Jerrica/Jem. Think a guy like that would be okay with his girlfriend becoming a musical sensation? Hell, he can barely tolerate Jem's popularity - and she, technically, isn't even his girlfriend! 3) Synergy is a particularly powerful system. This is not something Jerrica wanted to see fall into the wrong hands. So, to keep Synergy hidden, Jerrica had to hide her alter ego from the world.
4) Creating the alternate identity or Jem and the Holograms they could create a rock band that Eric Raymond could not control compared if he knew it was Jerica.
90s animated series are actually the best to watch! For many examples, Animanics, the Simpsons, SpongeBob, South Park, Batman, Rugrats, Ren and Stimpy, Beavis and Butthead, TMNT, etc.
Whoever made this movie saw Last Airbender and said, "I could change more things and be almost nothing like the source material." At least Last Airbender got the story right.
I can't believe that movie was shit on so hard. I didn't like scooby doo the cartoon as a kid, and I watched the old original stuff. That show was just sooo fucking boring to me, and it was the same thing every episode. Although I did like when they had cameos like batman and robin. Anyways, the movie was more of a parody of the show and it kind of said a lot of things that I was thinking. That might be why I like it so much. But also, some of the plot is just unforgiving, stupid as hell even if you consider the movie to be a parody. I can see how the movie ruined a lot of people's childhoods though. There were always diehard fans of the show, and the movie showed them no respect. PS, I know I'm not Doug or his brother, but I still wanted to share my view on it.
Say what you like about M Night's Last Airbender but AT LEAST it looked good, had gorgeous music and Dev Patel. This JEM piece of shit didn't even had that 0.o...
I avoided seeing this film because I'm a fan of the cartoon. I knew it was bad. I knew it tanked in the box office. But I didn't fully appreciate just how bad it was until I saw the "family humming" parts in the Nostalgia Critic review. What really gets me is that 80s retro stuff is kind of cool right now. If they had made this full-on, insane, tongue-in-cheek 80s, it could have worked. Like, use a humorous tone like the movie Clue or LEGO the Movie did.
Exactly! And even if it wasn't a huge hit, it would have at least satisfied the fanbase that grew up on it, and the hype would have made other people see it as well! Kind of like how the original Ninja Turtles movies weren't really made for a mass audience, just for the kids and fans that liked the cartoon, so they went crazy with them and did all the random shit they did in the show. THAT would have turned out much better than this pile of garbage we got.
Want a good reboot of Jem? Read the comics! The characters are actually fleshed out with personalities and goals, they modernize it tastefully and the art is more fabulous than one could hope. Seriously. Original cartoon? Ironically funny. New comics? Actually good!
Jem was more than Decent. It was Decent by comparison to 90s shows. And by 00s shows. and 2010s shows. Aside from the middle of the second season. Top 2-5 of the 80s. The storyline(except two bad episodes) were more consistent. It had more continuity immediately than most and it kept it unlike some other shows like G.I Joe and Turtles that sort of lost that. As well as the characters being full, not caricatures, so it wasn't toony. And not a pure humour show, which american shows tend to be. It combined things a bit more like manga. It wasn't a full romance but that was consistent element and not with guys of the weeks either. To be better than Jem, you need to get into reboot, Gargoyles, DCAU. And it started most consistently that some of those top shows too.
As a fan of Jem, having seens reviews, and these, this movie was dreadful and I didn't want to even see it in theaters. It has nothing good to say and is nothing like the cartoon. It says Jem and makes cracks from it, and references, but it is awful. They did make a better Jem movie, Hannah Montana. It was bad too, but not this bad. I grew up on Transformers, Voltron and GI Joe and stuff, but Disney afternoon came a bit later when II was in college. Actually the Care Bears was pretty corporate and obvious in episodes. Rainbow Brite was just bizarre. If they wanted to make a Jem movie, cast Lady Gaga as adult Jem, confident and silly weird (in a good way), and make it a throwback 80s piece. Have the computer be Madonna. Come on people. Ha.
List of Real Thoughts I would like to hear: - The Animated Titanic Movies (Titanic: Legend Goes On, Legend of Titanic, Tentacolino) - Foodfight! - Master of Disguise - Blues Brothers 2000 - Blair Witch 2 - Pearl Harbor - Masters of the Universe - Bad Don Bluth Movies (Troll in Central Park, Pebble and the Penguin, Rock-a-Doodle) - Terrible Holiday Specials (Home for Christmas, Christmas Story 2, Star Wars Holiday Special, Christmas Tree, Jack Frost, Grandma Run Over by Reindeer, Turtle Christmas, Home Alone 2, Rapsittie Street Kids) - Child's Play Franchise - Sequel Month: The Sequel (Chipmunks 2, Garfield 2, Smurfs 2)
What if instead of becoming an overnight sensation, her content was actually called out for being similar to that of another, more popular online talent who decided to publicly acknowledge the virtually unknown performer's existence? Resulting in a considerable viewer spike, a series of back-and-forth video responses, and maybe even the formation of an on-screen rivalry that continues to resonate with fans on both sides a literal decade afterwards? Or is not how fame on the Internet works?
I never watched the cartoon fully, mostly learning this via small snippets or talking with friends. Though it sounds like what Jem really needs is a movie that's a combination of Guardians of the Galaxy (for the "screw this we're on an adventure" feel) with the make up budget of a KISS concert. Am I wrong in that assessment?
It's funny because I think the 90's had the better cartoons now of course I'm biased because I was born in 1989. I don't know you look at the 90's Batman: The Animated Series, X-Men: The Animated Series, Gargoyles, Animaniacs, Darkwing Duck, Superman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Sam & Max: Freelance Police, The Tick, Tiny Toon Adventures, yeah that was some bad cartoons like Quack Pack but I believe there was far more better cartoons that bad in the 90's, from the Disney Afternoon to Cartoon Network's Cartoon Cartoons there was a lot of quality stuff in the 90's.
I couldn't agree more. Though I was born 1993 I grew up watching all those cartoons from fox kids and the Disney afternoon to kids WB and Cartoon Network, either as reruns or when they originally aired.
It's just that right now you see the terrible ones alongside the good ones, but it will turn to only hearing about the good ones. Edit: Were you speaking about compared to 80's or 2000/2010's? I can definitely see that.
i agree. i was born in 91 but i watch 80's shows too growing up and they all seem phoned in just to sell toys. majority of 80's cartoons didnt have half the creativity of the shows you listed. and when they did they wasnt consitently good throuought their run.
I love, love, love, loooooove the cartoon, not because of childhood nostalgia (I was in my 20's when I first saw it), but because it is THE most unapologetically, absolutely and completely 80's thing that has ever existed. Everything from the designs to the songs to the message is deep fried in camp and served with a huge slice of 80' cheese. The biggest insult to me was that the makers of this movie used NONE of those elements. If I had any say in it, I would have made this a glorious love letter to the decade of dayglo, charity singles, gigantic hair and all things OUTRAGEOUS. What a waste.
First few seconds in and my thoughts are "Is he going to say he enjoyed it?" Then I heard him say "It made me want to punch every millennial" and I'm like, ohhh, that makes sense.
I remember my reaction being the exact same as Spoony's. I believe that fan property is sacred, no matter what it is and I've seen so many times when Hollywood just doesn't give a shit and destroys stuff with huge fan bases just to appeal to "the charts". It happens way too often. You'll see a popular property that you grew up with get a movie, only to discover that the movie company only paid for the name of the property to slap on some script they had laying around that was of similar subject matter that has nothing to do with the actual property.
What are the age ranges of Millennials anyway? I thought it was people between 1982 and 2002. Just need to know how ashamed of myself I need to be lol.
+amaire44 All shall know the chart, it's righteous teachings and incredible knowledge. The chart creates and expends such great and thorough knowledge, the chart hungers, the chart requires a blood sacrifice, IT MUST FEED ON OUR KNOWLEDGE TO GAIN
I'd say its much, much, MUCH worse b/c as bad as Dragonball Evolution and The Last Airbender are those films NEVER exploited the fanbases. They never manipulated footage of fans talking about how much those shows meant to them and how it got some of them through hard times only to edit it to make it look like they're talking about the film adaptation. As far as I'm concerned that's an all-time low.
***** I'm not even a fan of Jem, but to exploit the fans who loved and cared about a show that meant so much to them? That alone makes it by far the worse adaptation of the three.
I think they're both Gen X's, Doug might be a millennial. Though it might be close enough that he considers himself an X person. Gen X is usually around 1965-1981 and Gen Y is usually 1981-1999. It depends on the person.
From what I've gathered, the "fan"'s original draft was actually close to the cartoon, but not a single studio wanted to pick it up. Then, he made the (incredibly stupid) decision to give it to Blumhouse Productions (since they finance anything if you can keep it under budget and one time) and the rest is history.
At least the Inspector Gadget movie had the theme song and Matthew Broderick LOOKED the part (I emphasize "looked" and not "played.") This Jem movie had neither.
I look at the Inspector Gadget movie, I see Inspector Gadget. Not a good version, but still a version. I look at Jem and see generic pop star, remove character names and this has no connection to the cartoon.
I never thought the Inspector Gadget movie was that bad to be honest. I liked it as a kid. Then again I saw without knowing about the original cartoon at the time.
So I have an obvious question here. How did you guys figure out Rob was in this movie? Did you spot him? Did he tell you in advance? Or did Tamara tell you like: "Oh you're reviewing Jem? You know Rob's in that movie?" I'm kinda curious to find out :-D
what has me worried is they cast Liev Schrieber. now, most live action actors have issues with voice work already, coming off flat without their facial expressions, but Liev is even bad in live action, so... yeah... my hope is that he plays something that plays to what strengths he has, like a no nonsense, stick in the mud type villain, who would work as straight man to discord or whoever the primary comic relief will be. but, it's being made by the show writers, so it can't possibly be that bad.
Most of the people working on the movies are the people who work on the show. With Jayson Thiessen directing, Meghan McCarthy writing the script (along side Rita Hsiao who wrote Mulan) and acting as executive producer. Stephen Davis, Michael Vogel, Sarah Wall and Kirsten Newlands all having producer or executive producer creddits I can say that the movie is in really good hands. The worst that can happen is that the movie will feel like a 2 hour episode of the show.
So I have recently went to visit my 4 younger cousins, who are of course the demographic for this garbage, little girls. First thing I'll see is the Jem and the holograms dvd. I asked my uncle why it was there. He said "oh that's some pile of s@$& movie the girls like. Then all my cousins said " Jem and the holograms." Then my youngest cousin said" she's my idol. SHE FILLS ME UP." " yes, Jem the Jack@$$ and the hellgrams." My uncle said.
Does that mean I'm part of the problem? :O Oh, wait, I'm not from the US and so far, I only heard people crying about millennials in the US. BTW, is blaming the millennials the new way to try to guilt trip a large portion of the population?
My original comment had nothing to do with Nationality so when you came out of left field with your pointless, off topic comment, it threw me for a curve ball. I didn't know you actually missed the point that much. I was just saying that if you were born between two dates you were a millennial, not who was part of what problem. And if you retained any information from the video, you'd know that Rob said it wasn't the millennials fault, and that he doesn't "blame" them. As you so stupidly pointed out. But I guess that's a special trait you are missing, huh? You got too caught up in trying to flex your e-dick and ended up sticking it in your mouth. Sorry that the fact I posted triggered you, you typical millennial. :)
Lankey Bastard man, you are sad. petty insults, typing half an essay as a RU-vid comment and you are STILL missing the point of what I was trying to say. here's a small tip, it had nothing to do with hating on the US. I have no reason, to hate on the US, most RU-vidrs I watch ARE from the US. again, please read the comment again, stop getting butthurt over me mentioning the US and try your hardest to understand what I was saying. Otherwise, it's pretty pointless for you to try to get a counterargument for something you seem to have totally missed the point for.
I have to agree with Rob on this one XD At the end though, when Jerrica and her sisters are about to perform and the crowd is cheering for them, someone shouts "WOOOO LOVE YOU" and it sounded like "WOOOO FUCK YOU"
Rob needs to stop excessively filibustering during these videos. And they also need to find another kind of bad film than one that feels like it was written by a studio.
