Not Quite A Merge In Turn 

Great comment!

my daughter had an instructor for 10 lessons and she came away not learning anything from him! basically a waste of 10 lessons

I'm not sure if the attitude come from instructors or how parents drove , which sets the mindset of a lot of drivers

@@wrightwoodwork Actually yeah a lot of my bad habits I picked up from my Dad 😄

@@greatleapforwards Yeah I've had some great ones, but a couple of my hgv instructors were really angry 😄 The motorbike instructors were the best I had.

And the Sun was out

@@rufusgreenleaf2466 🎵Hip-hip-hip hooray🎵 Sorry, in a mischievous mood this afternoon. Wishing you all the best in 2024. 👍

@@smilerbob No problem bob, same to you.

There's hope for humanity !

It's a late Christmas miracle!

I agree but you also cant just let them do what they want. seen it too many times with someone joining at 50-60 with traffic flowing at 70. I dont mid slowing a bit to let someone slot in but if it's clear ahead they need to match their speed.

The problem becomes when those on the slip lane expect traffic in lane one to give way and dangerously drive into lane one. There is not always space for those in lane one to move to and if towing or driving a slow vehicle are not going to want to scrub off speed for a faster vehicle.

@markgambrill you can I increase the gap in front or behind by either slowing or speeding up . There is always something you can do . All they have to do is match the speed of traffic on . If you disagree you are wrong in thinking you cantvalway adjust to the situation you always can

@radishpea6615 there is alway a space it's your responsibility to adjust to the situation . Poor attitude

Yes, but joiners need to do their best to merge too: accelerate briskly, match speed then merge. The "50mph brigade" don't do the first 2 parts, which makes merging difficult then they moan because others fail to make space for them.

Despite people seeming to detest learner drivers I think it also has the benefit in this situation where they think "Oh watch out, don't want this learner hitting us" sort of thing. Slow moving traffic and situations like this is where the majority of mistake would happen I'd imagine.

I was very impressed with the student too.

Hi Clive, good to see you here mate. Hope you are well, I passed my test with you back in 2016!

@@RyanMorris97 Hi Ryan, great to hear from you and hope all is well. 2016….. time has flown by.

yes, I was thinking for a road works where I am, that sharp a merge wouldn't be done.

If the concept of a zip merge were ever taught to drivers in the US this would be a GREAT idea. Where I live I think such a sign would just cause people to stubbornly merge even earlier and create more of a one-lane slowdown. I’ve seen them miles long with the other lane sitting empty. Somehow this is the time when everyone wants to play by the rules and be “good little drivers” 😂

The Germans have well-publicised campaigns when new ideas are introduced. Seems to work well - this includes zip merging (which I remember from the 80s) and more recently, Rettungsgasse (which is also being implemented in the UK, but they forgot to tell anyone). Being Germany, these are also backed up by legislation.

Where there's a sign that says merge in turn, people merge in turn. Without one, it's a fight, no idea why.

@@PedroConejo1939 German learner tuition requires a prescribed tuition time on motorways that is logged and overall driving laws are well taught and understood. In UK the whole thing is a bit hit and miss and seems to concentrate around driving in residential streets, so its not surprising we have atrocious motorway driving sense.

​@@alastairward2774I've never come across a sign like that where people listen to it, even when there's plenty of signs telling people to use all the road space, there'll still be some self appointed road police trying to block the lane that they deem to be jumping a queue

It takes some finesse, and feel for the car, so you know just how hard to brake, so you maintain the space.

@@johnbooth5199 Indeed, also learning to read the traffic situation and think ahead. I found even after I passed my test, I only really improved by road sense once I started driving regularly.

Yes, but there are many layouts that always have slow moves on the slip when there is a tight curve on the approach to them. E.g. 51°51'27.7"N 2°10’26.4"W for moves from the A417 westbound to the M5 north. Observe it in Google streetview, and note the advisory speed on the curve. Alright in a car, but more awkward in an HGV.

Depending on where you live, anything from 5 minutes to 5 hours each way. Yes I do live in Scotland, and I used to live on the Isle of Benbecula, some 5 hours travel from Inverness, where these are dual carriageways.

A picture is worth a thousands words.

@@davidvanderklauw I was fully anticipating a comment along those lines. I have a whole Windows folder I've named "For Ash". One of these days.

Bit crazy it was 3 lanes going into 1 - the roadwork planners need to do a better job on that one IMO, especially with the potential to snarl up the junction.

​@@Rroff2yes, planners could/should have made this happen as 2 merges before and after the junction

What game and what character are you referring to, if you don't mind me asking?

@@garari4466 Judging by previous replies and the uploads on her YT channel - the game is called "Final Fantasy 13" and Lightning Farron is the character. Hope that helps.

@@grahamnutt8958 Thank you!

Mine was at traffic lights where both lanes turned right but at the next set I needed the right lane where the road split so I tried to move over before the lights. I focused more in the mirror than in front and didn’t see the vehicle in front stop 20 yards before the line. Completely my fault despite my initial denial to myself in the drivers seat Unfortunately the damage was the other way round to yours. My thin aluminium Fiat Punto stood no chance against the rigid steel at the rear of a Rover! Never heard anything from her insurance company and I fixed the wing, bumper and headlights myself…well, the bumper I paid someone to do but still cheaper than the excess and raised premiums

It may be dui to many reasons, collapsed inspection cover, collapsed drain (not visible on surface) work adjacent to road etc

@@stephenhill8790 Hopefully "due" rather than "dui". 😄 But I get your valid point.

@@ibs5080 thanks for the correction,,😂

Far from an idiot Phil!

I use the A139 Pro

It depends on so many different factors, though. Who is behind you, how close are they following, how soon did you spot the hazard etc. If his road was running out and you had to take action, the chances are that the situation was already quite dangerous.

@@FlavourlessLife yes but looking back the van was trying to overtake as I was a learner and with no-one behind me I opted to let him in... Ultimately examiners can have bad days etc and human emotions will mean they will make mistakes accidentally or otherwise. My friend passed his first test and he mounted the curb in his test but the examiner said he could see he was nervous so not to worry about it

Morning Ibrahim, please provide a breakdown of how people merge in turn over in Cantebury for us all and also provide an insight in how they do it over in Canada

@@123MondayTuesday At 12:18 pm, the "r" in Canterbury needs to merge behind the "b" and in front of the "e". 😄

@@123MondayTuesday You truly made me laugh with that. You really know me all too well! Btw, you left out the USA. Remember, I've crossed the Canada USA border around 400 times over the past 20 years or so. In fact I'll be heading back to Vancouver Canada soon and doing a few more cross border trips. Wouldn't surprise me to see you at the border holding up a sign that says "Hello Ibrahim from 123MondayTuesday". 🇬🇧🇨🇦🇺🇲

Sometimes a commanding tone, is needed, as a quick change of driving from the student is required. Say, to avoid a hazard. If the student didn't respond to a earlier recommendation, then a stronger instruction is required, before an intervention becomes necessary. If the student was to start slowing down for the merge on the dual-carriageway, or even, try to come to a stop, then an aggressive command is needed to prevent a dangerous situation. It's all dependant on the dynamic between student and instructor. When I learnt to drive, I told my instructor, that he can be commanding, and while I might not like it, I'll obey - then I'll ask what I did wrong.

@@johnbooth5199 good points John and I can see your logic. The only point we may have to disagree on is that in my view there is never any time when an aggressive tone is acceptable from any teacher, even a driving instructor where there is potential for danger. For context, at 50+, I am going through my motorcycle full licence training. My first instructor took an aggressive tone regularly during the brief training I had with him. It was 100% counter productive - I quickly sacked him and now have an instructor who can get a point over quickly and effectively in dangerous situations without the need for aggression and it's therefore much more effective. I agree about dynamic though - the student in this vid was a bit younger than me (to say the least) and I think that makes a difference to the dynamic. Poor Ashley must be thinking I am conducting a character assassination - I'm not and I didn't think he was aggressive. I was just a little surprised at his approach given what I perceive typically in his other content. Thanks for the response John - good debate and really good to have this kind of discussion with other people who are interested in all of our driving improving. 👍👍

Poor Ashley? I'm no snowflake!

@@ashley_neal ha ha. I know mate - top man.

​​@@philcaffrey Bear in mind that I am in my mid 40's, and am used to being spoken to in such a fashion. I only learnt to drive in the last few years. I had 2 hour lessons, and as the lessons progressed, I could tell my instructor was trying to find-out how I best responded, so I told him not to be afraid to be commanding when the situation requires it. And NEVER be afraid of upsetting me, as I'll say If I don't like how i'm being spoken to. I fully understand that getting someone who is hesitating, to do the right thing, when merging onto the motorway, might require harsh language.

Going three into one, that zip has something caught in it.

@@PedroConejo1939 Hopefully not my helmet 🍄

@@ilikechickensausages2075 Oh, for sure.

Only joined in first place of selfishness by those that purposely close the gap to which you have adjusted speed to slot into and then claim that it is down to us merging to adjust 🤬

@@smilerbob I’ve just started riding a motorcycle……this happens to me often