Not Ray Wilson's Fault : The Making of Genesis - Calling All Stations (1997) - Documentary 

Brilliant album with Ray, better than many late Genesis albums. It's a shame Ray wasn't invited for the Genesis documentary, even for few minutes. Furthermore, now that Mike and Tony have time again, please contact Ray and make a second album, fans are waiting, and please feel free to give the LP another band name if you consider the collaboration with the great Ray harmful to the "Genesis" brand.

Calling all Stations is one of my favorite albums. It aged very well. Thanks for the video, amazing work! Saludos desde Argentina

Title cut, Congo and The Dividing Line are excellent Genesis-songs. I think this is a stronger 90s Genesis-record, than 'We Cant Dance'.

I always liked that record. I was also obsessed with the song Congo. So much so that I would play it over and over again till people asked me how many times can you listen to that song?

JCM does it again!! This is a masterpiece documentary on an obscure Genesis catalog. I learned SO MUCH from this presentation. Especially agree with you that the B side tunes left off the album made much more sense, but alas, they tried to appeal to mainstream and struck out on that attempt. I just would have appreciated it more if they changed the band name and went out on tour, small venues, and built up their repertoire. There was potential here!

Thanks for making this video, it's always good to revisit the more maligned aspects of a band's career and give it a more balanced appraisal. Whilst this period will never be my favourite, it deserves more positive appreciation than it generally receives. Cheers!

really appreciated the trip down memory lane on this one, thanks JCM

For me this genesis record was the best since abacab. I loved there seventies albums and i wished genesis would have made more albums with ray wilson calling all stations was a lot darker and better for it

Fantastic little documentary. As a middle aged Genesis nut who has seen the band many times since 1987 I actually feel ashamed that I didn't give CAS a chance. I enjoyed the opening two tracks but for me the album lost it's way after that. The B sides totally escaped me and I have to agree that a few of them are outstanding and it would be great if an expanded version of CAS was released. Ray Wilson was a talented vocalist who deserved his chance. Unfortunately in the insipid world of music which was the late 90s wasteland, Genesis were not as popular as before. Perhaps it's time Ray Wilson was given the respect he deserves. A full expanded version of CAS beats We can't dance by a long long way and might even sneak above Abacab.

NICE! Please be the beginning of more Genesis stuff. Starting off with an incredibly compelling chapter, I find this particular era endlessly fascinating and agree it wasn't Ray's fault. I blame Mike here.😂

David Longdon. I discovered BBT maybe a year before his passing. It broke my heart, he was that good. EVERY Genesis fan should listen to "The Underfall Yard" to hear what he and the band could do.

MORE GENESIS CONTENT! I’m a longtime (mostly 70’s) Genesis fan since my college days of late 80’s-early 90’s. They are the only prog rock I really like.

Great doc on this album and tour. This one deserves a lot more love from the buying public

Excellent episode, I knew nothing about this era of Genesis! Ray Wilson really has a great voice. Your comparison of his situation to JLT in Rainbow is spot on. Thank you for keeping us all entertained, amigo!!

Great in-depth review! I agree with others, that if the band (like Mike and the Mechanics) would have been given a different name, it wouldn't have had such a backlash. It also didn't help that Genesis gave up on CAS, like they were agreeing with the critics. Fans would have loved to hear Phil do one of the CAS songs in a medley, or have Ray sing an encore on one of the later tours. It would have given CAS some much needed legitimacy.

The 90s seemed to be a time where bands either fired their singers or they quit. Maiden, Priest, Warrant, Anthrax, Genesis, Crue...all suffered with new singers. **Correction: Anthrax did well with SOUND OF WHITE NOISE but after that, nope.

I love this album. Very dark and melodic. An underrated gem in the Genesis catalog. Ray deserved another album! But at least his solo career has been thriving. He tours often.

I look forward to your analysis of Genesis. You did such a stellar job on Zeppelin and Santana. 😊❤😊❤😊❤😊

I'm probably in the minority but I always enjoyed CAS, especially the b-sides. To me, it's got better with age. I liked the new edgy direction Genesis took. I just wish there had been a follow up. Thank you for this great video.

Whoever doesn't know it, I recommend listening to _Run Out Of Time_ - really a very fine song (not on the album), recorded during the CAS sessions. Yes I know it's been criticised by some (not me) for the saxophone sound emulated on keyboards by Tony, rather than a real sax.

If there is ever gonna be a Genesis again Ray Wilson needs to be in it. He‘s keeping the spirit alive

Excelent doc JCM, i am a big fan of Genesis and the history of this album was always a mystery. It´s to sad that very good material was out for final cut . I am very impress with the work of Ray Wilson , especially live ,a very talented guy.

Fabulous video JCM, I love the album and line-up and you did the whole story justice 👍

One more album with Wilson's input would have made a huge difference. They could have fully reinvented themselves then and made more great music. Wilson's solo work proves that. To Wilson's credit, I probably would have never listened to his solo albums if he hadn't done one with Genesis.

Well done brother. I agree with everything you said here.

Thank you JCM this was another well appreciated video. I love Genesis and i remember when this album came out as i bought it right away and absolutely loved it!

Another reason why “Calling All Stations” was critically frowned upon by Genesis fans when it was first released was the changing landscape of the mainstream music scene. In the mid to late eighties when the band reached its peak with “Invisible Touch,” the popular artists of that time were Huey Lewis and the News, Hall and Oates, Tina Turner, Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney Houston and others. By the time “Calling All Stations” came out in 1997 as “We Can’t Dance” came out at the turn of the Grunge boom at the end of 1991, the music industry had evolved being interested in Boy Bands and the slow rise of Nu Metal as KoЯn was getting more popular following the release of their sophomore album “Life is Peachy” the previous year and fellow band Limp Bizkit releasing “Three Dollar Bill Y’all” that same year in 1997. I mean, no one who was watching MTV at the time was going to be liking Genesis at that point since their glory years were all behind them. Still, “Calling All Stations” is a criminally underrated album since Ray Wilson does sound similar to Peter Gabriel in most of the song’s especially my favourite “Not About Us.”

Wonderful documentary! I like Wilson. Gritty voice and a good sense of what the song needs. His curse was to follow one of the most charismatic and talented singer and frontman to work in the business. Did you even hear how good he was singing the two tracks from The Lamb? I wanted a whole show/tour recreating the double album!

Huge Genesis fan here. I was 24 when this album came out and I was craving some new Genesis material. The album didn't disappoint me. I wentbin eyes wide open knowing the difference between Phil and Genesis singles so I wasn't expecting a Phil/Genesis album. It's a shame it's overlooked and all the tracks are better than the weaker tracks on all previous albums. Great video and insight

The reason many people are interested in Calling All Stations and Ray's tenure with the band is simply because, in retrospect, a great album was made. It was also a very twisted, dark, unexpected and in a way, kind of dangerous, brave and sexy way to end a band - which is very un-Genesis.

Thanks for doing this - this album is pretty much forgotten and I think it is solid for the most part.

What a great documentary! I'm agree with 100% of the opinions I listened in this detailed work .... congrats JCM. Fantastic!

It’s a real shame. Ray Wilson is fantastic singer, but totally wrong for Genesis. His voice just doesn’t suit the music. The sensible this to do would’ve been to invite Steve Hackett & Peter Gabriel back in 1996. Imagine what they could’ve done with the Calling All Stations music.

Great respect for Ray Wilson and for you too for making another fantastic and informative entertaining video! The drummer is also fantastic and the live show would have been much more enjoyable for me than their Last Domino tour. I hope only the best for Ray Wilson forever. Thanks Again JCM! Keep up the great Genesis path! The 1978-1982 years were the apex for me and those years of transition into perfection stand as the greatest live performances ever!

Ray Wilson is by all means the best rock vocalist I've heard in my lifetime. What a tragedy. Today, he should be revered as one of the all time greats, alongside other rock legends.

It is becoming more well known that David Longdon (Big Big Train) auditioned for Genesis, I knew David well, he was/is my best friend and David played me the demo's he recorded with Genesis...he performed the Genesis material with confidence, passion, power subtly and with personality...fortunately BBT and David found each other.

I saw Genesis perform "Calling All Stations" In Dublín, Ireland live.It was my first Genesis concert, sometíme in the late 90s.It was top notch, as bands go. They used Ray Wilson on vocals. Anto Drennan bass/guitars(a friend from a long time ago audition). I cant begin to tell you how good that concert was. Im not sure who played drums but it wasnt Phil Collins. He was more than just a good drummer. Anto Drennan played great as always before his hometown audience. A slendid time was had by All.

I lived in NYC for many years as a part of the downtown music community and in the mid-90's we would often go see Nir Z play in whichever local band he was in, admiring his drumming. We weren't surprised when he got the Genesis gig, and it felt like one of us had found his ticket out of "The Cage!" Nevertheless, I was disappointed upon hearing Calling All Stations in that he was copying Phil's style instead of being himself--although this was probably required of him.

fantastic video documentary on calling all stations and the late 1990s period of Genesis. You have made me nostalgic, and I sure would have liked many more records with the line up (rutherford, banks, wilson) and who knows how many great live shows we would have had to this day. It would be nice if in a frenzy they got together today to run a project.

I was lucky enough to buy all the CAS singles so I have all the non album tracks. Nowhere Else To Turn l found a HQ copy and downloaded it from RU-vid. I've compiled all these tracks on CD and cheekily called it 'Archive #3 1997 & 1998' It's a great listen.

Great take, you know what you are talking about , i am a huge Genesis fan - up to Duke

Wilson sounds like a mix of Sting & Paul Carrack. He has a great voice.

Once again Sir you have amazed and schooled me on the music and pop culture that I lived through and done it with a style instilled with passion, empathy objectivity, humor and subject matter expertise. And yes Nursery Crimes is the worst (and unfortunately most expensive) Genesis album I own.

Always good to go into an album or movie with low expectations. Banks and Rutherford have always held chief songwriting positions. It's a false myth that Collins wrote their 80's change. I enjoy the CAS album and enjoy Ray's voice.

Awesome! A Genesis film! You just keep doing great work, Jose!

Genesis came to me in the 80's through MTV and the video "That's All" they became my favorite band. It didn't hurt that Phil Collins was about to peak. I was a teenager, and everything hit all at once with solo projects, collaborations, and Invisible Touch. I bought it the day it came out and loved it. I still love it. That album also has some killer B-sides that could have been on the album. Genesis did that alot. WCD came out, and I got to see them in Miami on that tour. Finding out that Mike and Tony were going to make another record after Phil left I was hyped. I got it the day it came out. One of the local radio stations who always played Genesis played "Congo" a few times. I saw a commercial on MTV for the album during "Love Line" I think it was called. The tour was announced. I was stoked. Then the charts came out and it was not good. Genesis vanished in the US. Atlantic did not support them after the album dropped and it flopped here. Then the tour was cancelled. I listened to the album a lot and collected the B-sides. I even tracked down the Stiltskin album. I enjoyed it, but over time CAS just got played less and less, because i heard it enough. That's the thing about the previous Genesis albums. They keep me coming back to listen again. CAS just doesn't do that anymore.

I had high hopes for this lineup, after seeing their show at Earls Court, I was amazed at Wilsons voice and stage presence.

Fascinante video. Gran investigación. Abrazo...

Love this album ❤!

Very insightful vid! Appreciate the coverage of Kevin Gilbert, who is criminally underrated and/or overlooked. I think the "better B-sides" were left off because Banks & co, saw this as a break from Genesis tradition, so left out the more traditional sounding material. For me, CAS didn't connect because the lyrics were so sub-par. It felt like they were all about the same thing...

It was impossible for Genesis with Ray to keep up with Radiohead the Prodigy, Portishead, Oasis, The Chemical Brothers, Spice Girls, The Verve, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam .. every 1970's band and 1980's band were regulated to the sidelines. Even ELO, who released their comeback album in 2001 encountered radio silence. It wasn't anything to do with Ray or Genesis.. it was the times that we were in back then. The London Earls Court show was well received.

So much to say about an album that simply doesnt feature good songs. Like all pop music after early 90-ies, when music practically ended.

We Can’t Dance isn’t a horrible album, but 50 million copies…..sheesh!

Just listened to (the song) Calling All Stations... It sounds exactly like post-Roger Waters Pink Floyd. Which is fine. It's good. Not quite catchy enough for radio play, which would have helped the album gain acceptance. They ought to have realized that and given the song a little "pop oriented" touch-up.

Calling All Stations is truly the albatross around the neck of Genesis. It’s up there with Judas Priest Ripper Owens era, Motley Crue John Corabi, and Van Halen 3 with Gary Cherone. When you announced you were reviewing “Calling All Stations” I immediately dove into the album. The verdict: It’s interesting and overall a good album. Ray Wilson may have not been the best choice (Paul Carrack would’ve been perfect in my opinion) but he has a unique voice. The music (like all of the bands output) is very of it’s time. Definitely “ Congo “ is my favorite but “ Small Talk “ really got stuck in my cranium. I’d give the album a 6 out of 10 ⭐️s PLAY LOUD and PROG ON

Very well researched and refreshing to see such time spent on that era of Genesis. I always thought it a shame that there was no second album as I believe it would have been much stronger than the first.

Genesis crashed hard with this album... they've been on the downslide after Abacab, progressively worse with each album. This was a sad attempt to revive a dying band, at this point, nothing could save them. I love your reviews as always! Cheers. 😊😊😊

It wasn't his fault at all. The live version of Carpet Crawlers Ray Wilson did with Steve Hackett, is my second favourite version of it. The first is the original studio version. Which brings me to my next realisation. They dropped the ball. Because Calling All Stations was an opportunity to ask Steve Hackett back to Genesis. With the loss of Phil, both "classic" and "invisible touch" fans (I stopped after Invisible Touch), weren't going to accept a new singer. But if they brought back Hackett THEN THEY WOULD HAVE HAD A FOOT TO STAND ON, with at least one faction. There's a version of "There Must Be Some Other Way" live, that says this was not Ray's fault. It was so much better live than in the studio version. That's because most of the songs on CAS have a very sterile drum approach. It's hard to tell if they're machines or not. Live, they sounded much better. And Mike Rutherford is not the guitarist Steve Hackett is. Great Bassist, great ideas man, but not Steve Hackett. No point doing should ofs and could ofs. But I know it wasn't Ray's fault. They honestly should have given him another chance, but their music needed to change with it. And I don't think after all that success after ABACAB, that they were willing to change that formula, although CAS sounds more like Mike & The Mechanics. The aim was of course to be a successful change in Genesis fortunes once again, like Trick of the Tail. To lose a singer and survive. Ray was that singer. He has an awesome voice, and he has that Gabriel "darkness" needed for Genesis to be Genesis. Because they were sometimes a "creepy" band. Like a band out of Hammer Horror. "Mama" is kinda half creepy, but their early stuff is like haunted Victorian house music. Had they brought back Hackett, I think that would have helped them alot.

I love Fading Lights, too, just like Mike & Tony.

Thank you for your fresh take on this album -- and for avoiding the typical mindless clichés that are repeated concerning it. What would you have made the track listing if you had final cut yourself?

I realized a long time ago that I listened to CAS way more than WCD.

Another great video. I wonder what this band would have achieved if they had continued. (JCM "Invisible Touch...EY!")😅🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

Great documentary. The most shocking aspect really is the extent to which Mike and Tony were focussed on commercial rather than artistic success. People need to remember that by this time in the 1990s, the 80s and it’s overt pop-rock commerciality was out, along with airplay attention- those days weee done. (Collins struggled in this period too.). They needed to go back to the theatre (like Yes did) and reconnect directly with their audience. But you get the feeling they just didn’t fancy it. The song selection for the live tour with Ray was shockingly bad.

was an awesome CD...

Totally agree that a number of the B-sides would have made the album a lot better. I'm sure we could argue over what the best version of the album would have been. It definitely should have been shorter, with some of the longer tracks edited down, and some of the B-sides instead of what was eventually released.

Ray Wilson deserved another album with some own contributions! With that said, could Genesis be a wet dream with Nic Collins on drums and Simon Collins on vocals and additional drums?

Love this! Hope to see a lot more of Genesis from you

I am a hard core fan of Genesis... to a point. After Duke, it was a matter of diminishing numbers. Invisible Touch was the point where I'd get off the train. They had proven they could exist in the pop and prog world simultaneously, but the gated drums and Emulator synths finally pushed me away. When 'Calling All Stations' came out, I was curious at the very least. I heard Wilson's vocals and thought 'This guy is Gabriel and Collins combined. Smart move!" I heard the title track and dared to hope. The album itself was a let down, but I'd hoped they would continue. That was seriously naïve of me. It would have been interesting if they had decided to actually work with Wilson on more material. At some point, I have to wonder "How much is enough?" in terms of sales, and popularity. How interesting would it have been if Banks and Rutherford said "Screw it, we'll play theaters, and make music we want to make?" Again, a naïve view, given the amount of bean counters, managers, employees, and other hangers on, who depend on the Genesis machine. Interesting that David Longdon, Francis Dunnery, and Kevin Gilbert were considered. As much as I appreciate Wilson's voice, it would be an equally, or more interesting even, for David Longdon (With Nick D'Virgilio on drums!) to provide vocals, and artistic contributions to a new Genesis project. (And Dunnery on Lead Guitar!?!) Or even better, form a new group. As equals. That way, Banks and Rutherford wouldn't have a benign dictatorship to run. That's not a criticism, as much as an observation. So many possibilities are lost in a music making machine. Whatever the case, it happened as it did. There is no guarantee that Stiltskin would have reached the heights, and Wilson may very well have had the best career possible because of his association with Genesis. Coulda shoulda woulda. As a guy who made a very brief living, in my youth, as a musician, I'd trade places with him. And I definitely can't dance. Brilliant vid, sir.

I always liked Congo but the rest of the album was really forgettable for me. I don't think he has very much range or depth to his voice. I prefer most Mike and the Mechanics albums to this one.

Can't lie I love this album.

Nice documentary of this period, thanks. I listened to this album in a music store when it came out, didn't do much for me then, sounded kind of bland. Maybe I will revisit at some point. A few other comments: 1. Banks mentioned in a recent interview he wanted to do another album after this but Rutherford wasn't interested. 2. I was at the Progfest 94 concert, and Gilbert/Giraffe did an awesome job. 3. I think they should have chosen David Longdon, just my opinion. But he was able to prove himself as an artist later.

Mike's fault. He was obsessed by hits and sales. Like Tony Smith. Tony in the other hand was still motivated.

I love the album. I own all the Genesis original vinyl lps, CDs, Japanese remasters, box sets, live albums. I still listen to Calling All Stations. Ray Wilson brought something new to well written and recorded songs. Just don’t think it’s a Peter or Phil era album. It’s own era, I would have liked more, Ray’s live versions are worth the effort to find them.

Yeah,he never stood a chance. Not Ray's fault at all. Mike and Tony should've retired the name. Could've called it the Rutherford Banks Band and perhaps had more success AND nobody would have accused them of milking the mighty Genesis name.

Ray Wilson a wonderfull singer !!!.

One Man's Fool was very prophetic song pre-9/11. I'll put CAS on before Abacab and ATTWT any day.

To me, Ray Wilson sounds like Steve Hogarth from Marillion.

I LOVE this album and a few B sides immensely, but not the title track at all.

I went to this tour it was very good , and that he was treated badly by the other two possibly unintended but sad

The obvious choice to replace Collins would have been Paul Carrack.....it might have really worked. And they should have let Chester be a full member.

Why is no word of "Run out of time" B side, my fav from this era?

I wasn't a fan of Ray Wilson in Stiltskin, which (maybe unfairly) felt to me like "Nirvana manufactured to be palatable for the aging classic rock crowd" at the time. The Levis ad didn't help either. Maybe that's why I ignored Calling All Stations when in came out. What I'm hearing here sounds quite fine though... even if it feels a bit dated for 1991. If I were to listen to them without any knowledge I'd place them in the early to mid 80's. I can really imagine "Nowhere Else To Turn" sung by Peter Gabriel ca. 1982... and Wilson himself does sound fine, too. All in all it looks like I should give this album another chance.

This was good, i usually have troubles with opinions on documentaries that tell facts, well, you clearly didn't advertise this one as such, and also who doesn't hate snarking remarks on an official documentary anyways? Not like this is one, but it was good. I think that something that was missing was exploring the internet archives for the Genesis pages from that time, music magazines and even old forums were Genesis fans were pretty divided on this album, that means not everybody hated it, the opinions were very different in europe. Anyhow, i agree that the B-sides could've been better on the album, or as an extra release, i wouldn't throw away any song from the main album, but some had the potential of replacing others if they had been completed or worked on more, i also really liked how you edited that part with the horrible presenter, that guy deserves to be mocked more lol. What i disagree is on calling like half the tracks "Fading Lights", if anything, Fading Lights its very similar to previous Genesis tracks, i also disagree on tossing away Uncertain Weather and i think that Small Talk should've been mentioned with clips of the band saying they loved that track in particular (during the 2007 interviews), but that's something i already did so who cares really. I would've never made this video, not only because it could be argued that i'm lazy or i have little time to make videos, but for its title, i suck at coming with atracting titles, if anything, i could've done an SMALL TALK episode about how the things played out, well, i already did but it was like a minute long lol

You know, I have never heard this album.

2:22 "That's All" is the #2 Genesis stream?!? That's the only post-PG song I can support without reservations. Cuz it sounds like a Police "Synchronicity" Stewart Copeland-penned B-side and is all killer no filler.

I remember there were rumblings around this time that the job had been offered to Francis Dunnery from Robert's Fate of Nations band... missed opportunity IMHO

Let's face it, guys: this albun was Mike's whim; Tony was never sure of doing anything since Phil's departure."Let's jam and see what happens'".Well, what happened wasn't good enough for a Genesis álbum. Mike also chose Wilson, and then fired him. Oh Mike 🙄

0:23 "Things were never easy to me... Peace of mind was hard to find" That sounds like two different album titles. I had to look them up, lol.

They should have got fish to do it - that would have been funny, ironic and somehow fitting all at once 🤔😁

That interviewer at the concert was the biggest prig ever. You were right about that.

I really like Illegal Alien. "It's no fuun bein an illegal aliuun"

THANK YOU

I like listening to Calling All Stations for the simple fact that these guys got whittled down to two and still thought to give it a try. Thats the same hubris that kept them going when ant left, when pete left, and steve. What the hell ,we don't need Phil either. The only thing thats odd is 'the new guy'. Not that there's anythign wrong with the new guy, its just that Genesis didn't even let Chester or Daryl join the band. So to suddenly have three new people, including a singer, thats a lot to take in. I don't care for most of the songs but come on, who says NOT to get that but go ahead, pick up 'Genesis to REvelation". Every Genesis fan will likely have at least one they'll say 'dont bother with'. But I dont think ANYBODY has ever blamed Ray for it.

Nice work as always Sir! Your references to N64 James Bond brings back memories - though I was a Sega Genesis guy, my friend had N64 and that game was an all-time classic! As for Ray I dont remotely blame him - but I honestly dont like the album and since I believe Tony Banks has always been the primary songwriter I would lay the "blame" for my low opinion of the album on the songwriters and honestly - no artist in the history of music has an ENDLESS supply of great musical ideas to create and transform into great songs/music. I got into the band with Abacab and went backwards as they band moved forward. I personally prefer the older stuff, but I also believe nobody made better pop music than Genesis. I believe that with Collin's growing success Banks and Rutherford were willing to move in the same direction and I don't blame anyone who wants to be paid for their efforts....I don't believe they "sold out". Genesis for me is in my top 3 all time (Zeppelin, Beatles and Genesis) - so this album for me should have been known as the "BRW project".....

Who ist BBT? Full Name please

Stiltskin were really bad weren't they. I like Calling All Stations. I came to it very late (2 years ago) with no expectations. There are some really good songs on there. There must be some other way.

Este disco se pudo haber llamado fácilmente "And then they were two..." Porque así fue: Genesis en vez de reemplazar intagrantes, como hacían otras bandas, restaba integrantes! Porque aquí el pobre Wilson estaba como tipo "Qué hago yo aquí?" Pues reemplazando no uno sino 2 cantantes muy populares! Ya Phil Collins la tuvo muy difícil reemplazando a Peter Gabriel en el grupo, pero como ya era integrante del mismo y terminó siendo más popular que Gabriel pues al final no tuvo casi problemas, pero un perfecto desconocido? En qué estaban pensando Banks y Rutherford? Pues en su ego: En que Genesis eran ellos dos, y ése fue su mayor error... Ya de por si muchos opinamos que fue la salida de Hackett la que cambió el Genesis de ser un grupo de Rock Progresivo a uno de Rock Pop, pero ése Rock Pop era Phil Collins! Y volviendo a Calling All Stations: Fue el `ltimo disco de Genesis que escuché y lo encontré vacío, artificial, demasiado "Digital", y una de las cosas que más hace falta es el sonido de la batería de Phil Collins que es único! Ahg: A Banks y a Rutherford se les olvidó que no sólo reemplazaban a un cantante sino también a un baterista! Y a un "Señor baterista", uno de mis preferidos, y uno de los preferidos del público. Con todo a que destesto a Phil Collins como solista y las canciones más comerciales del Genesis de los 80 y 90 pero ése señor merece respeto! 😁

We can’t dance has some great songs. Maybe a a bit long and it ends with fading lights. Brilliant song

Sucha shame, a culmination of bad choices by Rutherford and Banks and a close minded fanbase. This could have been a lot better for Genesis..Wilson is a brilliant singer, frontman!

Genesis lost me after the self titled. I wonder if the Ray Wilson effect would have happened back at TOTT if someone else had been brought in to sing instead of Phil?