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Notre Dame - More Than Just a Church 

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@j-loosenfout67
@j-loosenfout67 2 года назад
hello Jay, The word "ho(s)tel" is derived from the word "ho(s)pital" which has lost its "s" in French. Since today the both are written "hotel" and "hôpital" in French. But so that the origin of these words isn't totally forgotten, we added this little hat on the "ô" called "circumflex accent" which therefore replaces the "s" of yesteryear. This is the case for practically all French words in which one of the vowels is covered by this little cap which replaces a missing letter (château, fête, due, etc.). This is why these dwellings were called "hotels". Unlike a residence, a hotel (in fact we say "hôtel particulier" to clarify the difference with a "commercial" hotel) was inhabited year-round by house staff supposed to welcome and take care of the owner and of these "hôtes" (thus "hostes" in old French) in visits for some time in Paris. Knowing that at the time "the court" lived in Versailles, the nobles had these magnificent "villas" built to escape from Versailles where the protocol was extremely restrictive. But the Palace of Versailles was the place of power where you had to be seen if you didn't want to fall into disgrace in the eyes of the king and continue to exert any influence. This is why we didn't inhabit these Parisian residences all year round but rather for short periods, places supposed to offer "hospitality" for an ephemeral time. Here comes Jay, now you know why we call them "hôtel (particulier)".
@MegaTod2
@MegaTod2 4 года назад
Another fact about Hotel Dieu besides a functioning hospital, is that you can check in to it's Hotel top floor. There are some rooms available to families of patients but if they have free space you can book it. It's very unique to be so close the the cathedral.
@TheZumadude
@TheZumadude 4 года назад
My first trip to Paris was back in ’87, (yeah, I’m an old) and in those days there were still some people who lived on the Île Saint-Louis who were born and raised on the island and had never once left the island (and they were more than happy to let you know it). Imagine that, never having left that little island. I doubt there is anyone like that left but it’s cool to think about.
@dave928
@dave928 4 года назад
never leaving Paris i could get. but never leaving that island with all that Paris has to offer around you? VERY hard to believe.
@parisbreakfast
@parisbreakfast 4 года назад
I heard that too...my landlord was born and still lives here.
@Namaster88
@Namaster88 4 года назад
Wtf are you on about lol
@curtiamiryks4053
@curtiamiryks4053 4 года назад
Loving the 80 in 8 videos!! They are making me miss Paris so much! I'm excited to explore all these place when I can finally travel again!!
@ellbcee
@ellbcee 4 года назад
I went to the deportation/Holocaust memorial back in January - I didn't realize it was there, and stumbled across it during a day that I just wandered. It was almost empty of other people, and the indoor spaces were dark and silent. Appropriate and very much enhanced the feeling of the place.
@lohphat
@lohphat 4 года назад
Nos Ancestres has a special place in my heart because it’s the place i had my first reckoning with any wait staff over the bill in France. I took my IT team out to dinner and it was about 9 months after my arrival in Paris. They overcharged us on drinks and I was able to enumerate each and every drink and challenge the bill - ALL IN FRENCH. When I was posted to Paris, I arrived not speaking a single word of the language (6 years of German in school didn’t help) so it was a coming of age event in a way. I’d still go back and eat there. It is fun.
@jainthorne4136
@jainthorne4136 4 года назад
That sounds like a real victory! I remember my first argument that I had with my landlady where I didn't have to pause once to grapple after a word. Ah....no one mentions those sweet memories of Paris. :)
@sergemilaire3474
@sergemilaire3474 4 года назад
We found that once we were done with all the touristy stuff, just walking the streets, exploring neighborhoods, checking out shops and restaurants really gave us an appreciation for what a diverse and interesting city Paris is. Thanks Jay for this new series as we get to join along with you as you expand your discovery of Paris.
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
I'm glad I get to be a video guide as I explore too!
@iconoclastic-fantastic
@iconoclastic-fantastic 4 года назад
the music choices for these vlogs are really top tier
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Thanks!🥳
@jemwxyz
@jemwxyz 4 года назад
Jay, I am so enjoying these 80 in 8 vlogs! These are the best yet! I just told my son that I have no desire to travel right now but I do want to go to France again! Then I came in made lunch AND went to France! How wonderful! Thanks for doing this!
@libro1073
@libro1073 4 года назад
4:49 Ci-devant Plaque Shown (from Wikipedia) In post-Revolutionary France, ci-devant nobility were those nobles who refused to be reconstituted into the new social order or to accept any of the political, cultural, and social changes brought about in France by the French Revolution. They were often distinguished by their manners as much as by their political views, both of which remained loyal to the attitudes and values of pre-Revolutionary France. The term ci-devant, itself often derogatory, comes from the French, meaning "from before" and technically applied to members of the French nobility of the ancien régime (pre-Revolutionary French society) after they had lost their titles and privileges during the French Revolution. Despite the formal abolition of the titles of nobility by the First Republic, most aristocrats did not accept the legality of this move and there are still numerous families in France with aristocratic titles today. "Ci-devant" may be compared to the English language term late (as in deceased), as it expresses the (figurative) death of the nobility during the legislative agenda of the Revolution. Prior to the Revolution, the term ci-devant was a common expression, although then it was used to refer to aristocrats who had fallen into financial or social ruin - namely "people or things dispossessed of their estate or quality."[1] During the revolutionary era, the connotations of the term were strictly derogatory, since it was typically used by people hostile to the nobility. For instance, one could say "le ci-devant comte" ("the from-before Count") about someone who held the title of a count during the ancien régime, but was now, according to the Revolution, a mere citizen. The term could also be used to refer to areas noted for their high levels of royalist sympathy or aristocratic communities - such as les ci-devants de Coblence, with Coblence (Koblenz) being the town where many exiled aristocrats had fled during the first two years of the revolution and where many of their early plans to restore the monarchy were distilled. Hundreds of thousands of non-aristocratic French men and women, who were opposed to the revolution for political, cultural or religious reasons, also emigrated abroad between 1789 and 1794 and that, eventually, the term ci-devant came to be applied to them as well, indicating that their politics were "from before." In French, the term still retains this negative connotation. Those sympathetic to the historical aims of the counter-revolutionaries or who do not wish to use a historical phrase that comes with so many perceived political connotations and judgments usually use the phrase Vieille Noblesse ("Old Nobility") to refer to the aristocracy that existed prior to 1789 - or those today whose family lineage stretches back to before the Revolution. In English, the usage of ci-devant is less clear. One might refer to ci-devant nobility simply to distinguish them from later nobility created by Napoleon Bonaparte under the First French Empire or by Louis XVIII and Charles X under the Bourbon Restoration.
@jamesbinns8528
@jamesbinns8528 3 года назад
Thanks for explaining left band/right bank. That now makes sense to me. As an avid canoeist (and SUP) I understand , because those of us who canoe and kayak and sup, refer to "river right" and "river left."
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 3 года назад
Ah yeah, that makes sense then too
@annaburch3200
@annaburch3200 4 года назад
I learned SOOOO much today! I've never understood the left bank/right bank thing. Thank you for that! My first trip to Paris in 1992, my teacher took us to that memorial and there was an older Jewish gentleman who explained the memorial to us. He had been deported, as a young man, and miraculously had made it back to Paris after the liberation. We also had Bertillon ice cream. I get a kick out of the double scoop cones that go side-by-side. 😊👍 Fun walk, today, Jay! Thank you!
@CanadaSEL
@CanadaSEL 4 года назад
Of all the videos you do, these neighborhood videos are the best! Looking forward to the rest of the 80 in 8. Keep up the great work Jay!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Thanks!
@JBugz777
@JBugz777 4 года назад
Thanks for showing the memorial man, as a Jew that was moving to see & I've never seen it anywhere in other travel vlogs.
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
I'm really glad I finally went in. I honestly always thought it was just the park, so I never felt that compelled to wander in. Highly recommended
@JBugz777
@JBugz777 4 года назад
@@JaySwanson 🤴
@Swordopolis
@Swordopolis 4 года назад
Berthillon is amaaaaaaaaazing, absolutely recommend to anyone visiting Paris
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
🍦🍦🍦
@bleumarin1968
@bleumarin1968 4 года назад
i remember discovering the little church by chance while strolling with my Irish friends in the area, loved the church
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
I'm glad I finally went in!
@kathleenh6773
@kathleenh6773 4 года назад
Seriously, the highlight of my day! Last year I was in Paris on this day. What a difference a year makes. Jay you are the answer to my doldrums for lack of a better word over all of 2020. Thank you!
@FRanceSource
@FRanceSource 4 года назад
Another brilliant episode in your newest venture. The church is stunning and will not just walk past again. What a fool I have been.
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
It's so cool!
@dezfernandez
@dezfernandez 4 года назад
That memorial looked so claustrophobic but that made it so powerful too i guess.
@andyshacks7812
@andyshacks7812 4 года назад
Just love the views from Île st Louis. It’s gorgeous!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Right??
@andyshacks7812
@andyshacks7812 4 года назад
Jay Swanson. And loved that little house !
@johnfox7017
@johnfox7017 4 года назад
Amazing episode!! This channel should really have 200k+ subscribers
@wellbeingatwork
@wellbeingatwork 4 года назад
Loving this series but is it possible to slow down a bit when you're talking? Looking forward to the next one :)
@AnneMB955
@AnneMB955 4 года назад
Learning a lot of history. Not my favourite subject at school but so much more interesting when the stories are meaningful. Love the architecture too.
@mmeb7250
@mmeb7250 3 года назад
Salut! Regarding Jay's query of "hôtel", the way that I explain it to my students is that when the aristocracy made its way back to Paris (a migration to escape life at court at Versailles and enjoy the city of Paris again), they built magnificent townhomes - called "hôtels". Some very notable artistocrats in these townhomes hosted rather famous gatherings of notables for lively discussion and idea exchange. To this day, the teeny "chambres de bonnes", or former maids' quarters at the top of these magnificent townhomes, provide a more affordable (and very cramped) option to university students living in and near the 5th arrondissement. Many of the "hôtels" have been divided over time into several units. In the areas mentioned in this video, they are still considered very exclusive. Enjoying the 80 in 8!
@LineHoude
@LineHoude 4 года назад
Praying and hoping to go back to Paris in spring
@lindammoklahoma4205
@lindammoklahoma4205 4 года назад
Great tour of Île Saint-Louis. I rented an apartment there for a week on Quai De Bethune, the street you were walking on by the river. That week was an experience of a lifetime, I felt like a local going to Berthillon for ice cream, Notre Dame, I ate at the same restaurant you did, browsed through the flower shop. Jay you just don’t know what today’s vlog meant to me personally - thanks a million.
@edroso5989
@edroso5989 4 года назад
Hi Jay, thanks for this new series of vlogs. I enjoy every episode so far. A greeting from the Netherlands!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Thank you!
@CraigMische
@CraigMische 4 года назад
I was waiting for you to get reprimanded for recording video at Mémorial des Martyrs de la Déportation but was amazed it didn't happen. They usually are very strict about no photos or videos being allowed. I was glad that you weren't stopped as your filming was respectful and I appreciated it.
@loriluchtman-jones4896
@loriluchtman-jones4896 4 года назад
Thanks for this walk - brings back happy memories!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it =D
@lohphat
@lohphat 4 года назад
Wow, I had no idea about the memorial either. It’s now on my list. Thanks!
@noviejayonor4532
@noviejayonor4532 4 года назад
May I just says how dope Sam’s jacket it!
@TyroneBeiron
@TyroneBeiron 4 года назад
And matching pantalons! I would have given him three chevrons!
@aishwaryalakoul8745
@aishwaryalakoul8745 4 года назад
One of the touristy area in Paris. I miss it so badly 😭
@KarinLynnBates
@KarinLynnBates 4 года назад
Excellent, Jay! I recalled a some really nice memories of the Île Saint Louis from watching. The bird market on Sundays is really interesting! It’s a fun place to find gifts for people, too- I got a cool wind chime type thing there for someone once upon a time. ✌🏼👍🏼
@karentozer1871
@karentozer1871 4 года назад
Brings back happy memories xx
@maobfh
@maobfh 4 года назад
Thanks Sam, for coming along and I LOVE your coat! Like, a lot. Thank you for taking us into the memorial. Even though we understand that the French Resistance was fighting to get their country back, we forget about the atrocities in Germany and Poland and I don't know also spread into France and Paris. I am appalled, not because the Jews in Germany and Poland were of less importance but because I am reminded of that time in the history of humanity and this makes it seem doubly horrific, as if there was even room for more. But this needs to be shown, even by more lighthearted hosts, lest we ever forget. And for the people who have partaken of the brainwashing koolaid, this really DID happen. Fantastic video! Am enjoying this series as it is giving us an even better understanding of Paris. Thank you!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Thank you! And for sure, if nothing else these memorials help us to reflect, they're succeeding
@MrMazza4321
@MrMazza4321 4 года назад
Another great trip with our guy Monsieur Swanson 👌 loved it!
@judyt.5702
@judyt.5702 4 года назад
I love this. And your friends jacket,I want one.Jay thank you for always taking me along. I so appreciate this excursions. Merci beaucoup. ♥️♥️♥️♥️
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
He looked sharp right?😎
@judyt.5702
@judyt.5702 4 года назад
He looked very dapper.♥️
@judyt.5702
@judyt.5702 4 года назад
These excursions. Trying to write while in Zoom class w Axel 4yrsold. Lol😆
@rf8773
@rf8773 4 года назад
I can't thank you enough...I feel like I'm back in Paris exploring these places and learning many more new places with your videos. Thank you, thank you for creating these videos for everyone to enjoy. I can't wait to go back...so much more to see and many foods to enjoy. Blessings to you Jay always! Enjoying your daily sidekick. 😃👍
@michellem9619
@michellem9619 4 года назад
This was a great vlog! Missing Paris so much right now and this helps. Hopefully soon!
@gladysmomentosfugaces
@gladysmomentosfugaces 4 года назад
Notre Dame has something special, ⛪ Greetings! Jay 😀
@Heyitswhitlavonne
@Heyitswhitlavonne 4 года назад
Okay I’m LOVING the music selection here!! Loved getting to see this section of Paris ☺️☺️
@ashleypalmer3775
@ashleypalmer3775 4 года назад
Your friend's jacket is rad! Also, looooving this series Jay! So in depth, it's fantastic!
@lesliedoucet6780
@lesliedoucet6780 4 года назад
I love that you are doing this!!! Thank you!!
@debbiehall8569
@debbiehall8569 4 года назад
The Memorial is worth seeing. I love the islands so thanks for the memories.....
@velislavastaneva6825
@velislavastaneva6825 4 года назад
Omg please make a video of the Bird market!!!
@staceekersley
@staceekersley 4 года назад
Oh, so glad you ventured down into the Deportation memorial. I had never heard of it in my studies of Paris, but had intentions to visit it in December. Unfortunately it was closed. Thanks for exploring!
@valp991
@valp991 4 года назад
I think there is another room with videos and explanations in this memorial ! I don’t know if you have seen it. I am from Paris but I always learn/discover new things by watching your videos ! So, thank you for this channel :)
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
So glad I can share what I'm finding with you!
@MrsMajorHoff
@MrsMajorHoff 4 года назад
I tell everyone that visits to take the 15 extra minutes to go to the Deportation memorial. It is powerful and humbling. Most people are already at Notre Dame, so it is just right there.
@velislavastaneva6825
@velislavastaneva6825 4 года назад
We went to the Blue Place when we came to Paris! 🖤
@meganecho9715
@meganecho9715 4 года назад
I AM LOVING THESE VIDEOS!!!!!
@kathleenh6773
@kathleenh6773 4 года назад
Oh and LOVE the music!
@lmb41
@lmb41 4 года назад
Great video! I love Sam’s jacket 😀
@scottjones462
@scottjones462 4 года назад
15:53 I went to this years ago and was barked at by a man standing at the top of the stairs but I did not understand so I went on down and waited to take a picture but he was leering at me over the top ruining the shot I wanted. I finally shot a small view and as I was climbing out he appeared again and pointed at my camera! I then realized he was saying No Photo it is sacred to us....oops. He was standing in front of the sign that showed the camera not allowed symbol.
@donburks7285
@donburks7285 4 года назад
another great vlog
@sergiobluesman
@sergiobluesman 4 года назад
Awesome videos Jay!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Thanks!
@madhattersartstudio8344
@madhattersartstudio8344 4 года назад
Loved the video. I have never seen a lot of what u show...awesome! Thank you. I miss my home
@jl3306
@jl3306 4 года назад
Made with so much love! Thank you. Enjoyed it heaps 😊
@powwow101
@powwow101 4 года назад
Wish I had the info you shared when I was there.
@thomascassidy8347
@thomascassidy8347 4 года назад
Great video,I so miss my Paris but look forward to better times,btw,handsome friend,great military coat xx
@pumpkinprincess1031
@pumpkinprincess1031 4 года назад
The hospital actually had a floor that was a small boutique hotel. It closed a couple of years ago. It was cheap and the perfect location. Kind of creepy though.
@anastasiafua9778
@anastasiafua9778 4 года назад
Hey Jay loving these series !
@elenagtz.glz.7049
@elenagtz.glz.7049 4 года назад
Jay!!!! Hi again hahaha can you please make suggestions on restaurants with steak tartare that include fries and salad? Cause at some places they just give you the meet hahaha and I love mixing it all 😂💙 thanks Jay! Or people, if you know of a place in Paris, not to expensive tho hahaha Merci!
@ratadepraia1
@ratadepraia1 4 года назад
Jay, thank you so much for your videos! It makes my day! ♥️
@gabrielaperes1508
@gabrielaperes1508 4 года назад
Thank you!!! Hey, i love the music playing in the background who is it?
@Spacecorgi
@Spacecorgi 4 года назад
It took me awhile to recognize that your friend had an umbrella and not a sabre.
@Sportkite1111
@Sportkite1111 4 года назад
I hope you and Chantal can get together when you hit her quarter. You guys are great together.
@LizzyC-nf1sv
@LizzyC-nf1sv 4 года назад
Lots to see! Nice!
@julianobubersetzung2070
@julianobubersetzung2070 4 года назад
that´s the soundtrack, man! :=)
@gingerdean1521
@gingerdean1521 4 года назад
Jay - at the Deportation Place I think this is the place with shoes down on the riverwalk .Very powerful symbol( a deportee's shoes got left behind) sad
@Trugoy1
@Trugoy1 4 года назад
i think we'll hit some of these spots on saturday :)
@sherali62
@sherali62 4 года назад
Bonsoir Jay these vids 10\10 i defo need come back to Paris
@howtubeable
@howtubeable 3 месяца назад
Sainte-Chapelle is the church famous for its gold and white stone. I couldn't find the name in the video or the description, so I had to ask AI Copilot. Thanks, AI Copilot.
@22mendonca
@22mendonca 4 года назад
Really enjoying this series of vlogs Jay! By the time I visit next year (fingers crossed damn COVID!) I hope to be a little more wiser with the layout of Paris, esp places to eat n drink in the Marais, where I will be staying : -)
@MarkVicars
@MarkVicars 4 года назад
Another great video, Jay! Berthillon ice cream is very good, but a bit overhyped in my opinion.
@ofasho44
@ofasho44 4 года назад
Top notch video. Also, Sam's military-inspired jacket is nice!
@TyroneBeiron
@TyroneBeiron 4 года назад
And matching pants...!
@dixierosestudios
@dixierosestudios 4 года назад
Ahh, I wish i were there...🥰
@teresasmith6076
@teresasmith6076 4 года назад
Great video!
@marcdenton2996
@marcdenton2996 4 года назад
Love the music. How about some Edith Piaf?
@christineschmidutz5057
@christineschmidutz5057 4 года назад
Can you help me orient, is the flower market near a metro entrance and sainte chapelle?
@christineschmidutz5057
@christineschmidutz5057 4 года назад
I googled it and yes it is. Such a beautiful place we stumbled on it while in a rush and only had time to go through the stall with the hot air balloon. Enchanting ! My daughter and I wanted to buy a hook they had on The wall , it was s cat, but we were in a rush to get to a tour so we departed with intentions on going back. Of course we didn't. And we were sad about leaving the cat as it was meant to be our souvenir. Next time for sure :)
@lucysansom9739
@lucysansom9739 4 года назад
Ahh, I enjoyed a cone at that Berthillon shop back in 2018 when the world was COVID-free. {le sigh} Is the Charlemagne statue at Notre Dame still there?
@margerymorstein1073
@margerymorstein1073 4 года назад
I am really enjoying this series. My trip was canceled this year, but i will visit many spots mentioned in this series next year, hopefully. Could you also mention the AR these sections are in?
@christinelachance8012
@christinelachance8012 4 года назад
Margery Morstein ...See the vlog’s opening with the map...
@margerymorstein1073
@margerymorstein1073 4 года назад
@@christinelachance8012 don't see the AR number
@christinelachance8012
@christinelachance8012 4 года назад
Margery Morstein ...See the map of Paris with numbered arrondissements at 0:44!
@Salien1999
@Salien1999 4 года назад
The only recent shot of the scaffolding I could find online. It seems everyone would rather take pictures of the front, for the time being (understandably so), but I've been curious how far along they were with removing the scaffolding. Looks like there's still quite a bit to go.
@pathallam986
@pathallam986 4 года назад
It was due to be all taken down by the end of September tho I don't know if that's still on schedule (the spring lockdown obviously put things back a lot). Most of what you can see is new scaffolding that is propping up the unsupported stone vaults, left vulnerable by the roof collapsing.
@Salien1999
@Salien1999 4 года назад
@@pathallam986 I did recognize some of the new scaffolding. I think having to set that up and the coronavirus shutdowns put it pretty far behind. Last estimate I heard was the end of October before they would have it finished. Maybe it'll be quicker now that they can focus on that.
@bitmln003_
@bitmln003_ 4 года назад
I love that mask and it suits you and I want it!
@rc9272
@rc9272 4 года назад
Vonderful 👍
@barbroevanderlindquist4128
@barbroevanderlindquist4128 4 года назад
Is it Asterix and his galles that have opend resturant?! Have you seen or read about Depardiux, did he emigrate to Russia or wat happend?! Barbro Sweden
@cermelem
@cermelem 4 года назад
Is it weird to want ice cream before coffee? 🍦 ☕😂
@judyt.5702
@judyt.5702 4 года назад
Jay the ring? How why? It's pretty.♥️
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Thanks! Just figured I might as well haha
@judyt.5702
@judyt.5702 4 года назад
Where did you get the ring?
@hkpuipui99
@hkpuipui99 4 года назад
What's Sam's Instagram? :p
@tommyvalenzuela7504
@tommyvalenzuela7504 4 года назад
I liked that military jacket your friend was wearing. He looked very cute and handsome
@robertfader2032
@robertfader2032 4 года назад
We were in Paris last August and Berthillion was closed. I get taking a summer vacation but an ice cream shop? Really?
@christinelachance8012
@christinelachance8012 4 года назад
Most French people take a month vacation in August...It’s a very civilized custom!
@robertfader2032
@robertfader2032 4 года назад
@@christinelachance8012 I understand. But to close an ice cream shop during the hottest month of the year? Seems a bit counter-intuitive don't you think?
@TYOrder1
@TYOrder1 4 года назад
Berthillon is too good. It's a problem for me.
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
🤣
@dave928
@dave928 4 года назад
you walk around Notre Dame and just see a little park from the street. meh... it's just another little park, paris is full of them. NOT.
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
Definitely a surprise
@pathallam986
@pathallam986 4 года назад
Highly recommend the Deportation Memorial. Each of those lights represent one of the 200,000 French people deported to concentration camps. There is also an excellent museum exhibition inside. This is one of France's most shameful events in its history and it was only in the 1990s that the state's responsibility for it was properly acknowledged.
@dccoulthard
@dccoulthard 4 года назад
4:46 Fun fact...Ross Perot was the President of France. Didn't know.
@christinelachance8012
@christinelachance8012 4 года назад
Dave Trotter ...Perrot, NOT Perot!
@JaySwanson
@JaySwanson 4 года назад
😆😆
@dccoulthard
@dccoulthard 4 года назад
@@christinelachance8012 I know :)
@ChineseAg
@ChineseAg 4 года назад
1ére commentaire - Youpi!
@NancyLiedel
@NancyLiedel Год назад
Graffetti is the art of the oppressed, much of the time. It can be incredible. Or suck. Perspective.
@howtubeable
@howtubeable 3 месяца назад
They are not oppressed. They live comfortably in a progressive city. Graffiti is vulgar vandalism from narcissists. You wouldn't consider it art if you OWNED the building that they vandalized.
@NancyLiedel
@NancyLiedel 3 месяца назад
@@howtubeable and you would be wrong there, but you will never see it, so we will move on now.
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