Now THAT'S Stuck: Only One Bronco Was (Slightly) Damaged in This Run of the TFL onX Offroad Course! 

I appreciate all the comments, all I can say is it was a great time and I love my Bronco! Ain’t nothing wrong with a little trail trophy. Andre and his crew were super cool and I had a blast at the Ranch. Side note: was by far the longest road trip I’ve done with my Bronco, it is an awesome road performer as well as a kick-butt off roader!!! Thank you for the Opportunity TFL

Poor guy ..did not deserve that …the recovery needed more attention ..it was taken lightly

Spends $2000 in body damage Winds a 20 cent sticker

Great attitude Lance. But TFL, I’m confused. You brought a Ram HD out there, why didn’t you use it? Start with a tow or winch from that heavy beast first, move to kinetic if that doesn’t work, a little bit more slack each time and stop once he’s out- you don’t need to drag the guy 10 ft out of it- once his rear wheels were out and on solid stop, his lockers will get him the rest of the way out. Jeez man you guys just went straight to the nuclear option. And as I’ve said before when you recovery from a side by side’s hitch- If a metal D ring breaks off someone could get killed. I sure hope that before you attached to that point you know what that attachment on the Polaris is rated for- kinetic ropes multiple the force substantially. You also may have weakened it for future. Attachment points are not always rated for hard recoveries. You know what would be a great TFL video- one where you guys team up with some popular RU-vid offroad recovery channel like Matt’s or something and get instruction on recovery. I think it would be popular for you but more importantly would instruct people on how to do recoveries safely. Because so far the ones I have seen you guys do are not it. And there are a lot of people who watch your vids that do not know that and might go out on a trail and try this and it ends in disaster. I love your vids but please be safe guys.

You guys need to invest in a winch if you're going to have viewers out. Hell I wouldn't take my own rig through that without proper recovery gear. The way this was done how can one not be upset for the owner

TFL should have paid for the repairs but instead you...gave him a STICKER?! All you did was add insult to injury. This was disgraceful, you treated that man terribly when he was nothing but polite and (too) understanding.

Okay, definitely some problems here: - in the first half, honestly I'd have been annoyed if someone told me how to drive as much as was going on (tho it got better, amusingly as it got harder) - a kinetic yank for someone suctioned into mud isn't great. This wasn't sitting for ages so it wasn't as bad, but it wasn't the best strategy - use a truck, you brought it for a reason. Use the power to pull it out slowly and in a measured fashion. Get tension before applying wheel speed, and ideally you'll not get the stuck guy spinning wheels unless that's needed, makes it much more violent once it is unstuck - a winch would have made that even easier. Given the difficulty, I think having one on hand is a good plan - I'd not put a metal D ring there if I didn't have to, a soft shackle is a lovely piece of kit to have. Props to the owner for taking it in stride though, I'd be kinda annoyed tbh. It didn't have to go that way. I pinstripe the crap out of my vehicle but that's because I have no choice if I want to keep driving up the mountain, and I generally want to do so. I don't enjoy scratching it up needlessly

Maybe Andre should get some lessons on extraction. That was overkill. A little bump would have had him out and damage free.

IDEA; get a new door for the Bronco and swap for the old door. Then hang the old scratched door on the wall, like TG. It makes for an interesting back drop for videos, AND a reminder for the crew not to do recoveries like that again.

Lance is such a nice guy, I hope you cover at least half of the repair to the door

I’ve been a huge fan of TFL for years, but I’m disappointed in the way this poor recovery was handled. I think TFL has some responsibility here.

I’m up for having fun but I’m feeling like the irresponsible action taken by the recovery team was not well planned. Poor man drove all that way to ruin his door and mirror and got a sticker for his trouble. I don’t think I’ll be heading to the onxoffroad course anytime soon!

TFL owes him a new door and mirror piece. Horrible job yanking him into that tree!

Good on you Lance for taking the damage well. Hope you’re able to get your Bronco repaired quickly!

Lance you are an incredible sport brother! I really like Lance and his bronco. We need more people in this world like him. He was so happy and thrilled to be at tumbleweed ranch and meeting his guys he supports!

Poor guy was basically peer pressured into getting into an impossible situation. There was no way any car was going to make it through that. This is an impossible course, which makes it no fun because you’re in it to just lose. Also, when you invite someone over, maybe take recovery a bit more seriously. You scratched his car only because of carelessness. It could have easily been recovered more effectively.

Wow, this was wrong on so many confusing levels. While it is easy to sit in hindsight judgement in front of a computer, take into consideration, I have 35+ years of OR experience, so there is more than just watching and critique going on here. And TFL crew has been in their course more than a dozen times now, it should be almost 2nd nature to what you are doing with people out there. Should not be a struggle. #1. Why in the heck would you consider using that Ram you drove down into that course as a recovery vehicle? It is a press vehicle and you know that course is not kind to street rigs. So error idea 1. Obviously you did not use it, so good correction there. #2. The 2nd recovery vehicle idea. Complete disaster. Why would you use a vehicle that is 100% not designed for recovery at all, but rather going balls to the walls out in dunes??? That was not a Mule/utility Side by Side. It was meant for racing. SMH. It is a small miracle nothing on it was destroyed in the process. (assuming nothing was, for all we know it was not shown on camera) It was also a small miracle it was able to help that Bronco at all because of the weight and gearing differences between the 2. Also in that scenario, since it was clearly WRONG for the job, it could not finesse the recovery, which is exactly what was needed.(almost always is) Instead you gunned it like a thief breaking out of prison. That is a disaster happening and that is what you got. And the victim (showing composure) I am assuming signed a no claims waver so you were not liable for his damages. But still, I would be unhappy at that procedure. Tommy should have been there doing this. The 4 Door Bronco TFL should have been there as the recovery vehicle. #3. At that point might as well have gone all the way to Tommy's demise and finished the course. It is my assumption the victim after that messed up recovery said enough "help" for 1 day. If it had been me, I would have definitely been more hands on with what was going to happen and discussed the procedure and given my input on whether it was a good plan or not. Then at least I would have been partly to blame for the way it was handled. #4. Your last comment about Tommy's demise being only good for heavily modified vehicles, that indicates no other road legal vehicle will be attempting this course now? I am sure that 2 door Bronco could have finished the course had things not gone foul in the muddy recovery pit.

Hey Lance - I’m the guy with the blue Jeep you met the day before. Great to see you and the Bronco getting into the mud! Bet it was even tougher than what we faced after the snow! I think the line did you in as well - although maybe just not enough ground clearance. Too bad, I think you and the Bronco were looking pretty capable and maybe a different line would have worked. I’m sure there was little desire to take another shot after the trail damage, but I agree with your attitude. If you’re going to actually drive your off-roader off-road, you need to be ready for some damage. Planning on taking my Jeep to Oceano this spring. I’ll keep an eye out for your and your awesome Bronco.

You better do your homework on offroad recovery before someone gets hurt. Using a metal shackle on the sbs without proper recovery point could ended in some injuries. At least use some soft shackles next time. And never start from so much speed and slack on the rope its better to try the recovery 2-3 times with each time more speed more slack instead of what you did and risk in broken recovery point and shackle that goes to a windshield.

I guess in retrospect the recovery should have been done differently. Hopefully lessons were learned and the adage of slow as possible fast as necessary will be brought to recovery. I was a big fan of the kinetic rope until this video. A slow winch would have been better, if it would have done it. Of course, I have the advantage of being an armchair quarterback. Great video guys.

That was full stupid with the rope. TFL really got to find a better way to recover vehicle's. Just a winch on the SxS would have gotten him out without $5K in damage.

Nice job on the recovery... he's yelling stop, but "Polaris just don't care". 😂

What was the point of the Ram rebel? That would have been a much better option than the atv.

Moral of the story is don't do anything involving the tfl guys because they routinely damage viewers cars or there own

wow, that recovery was so well thought out. not using something with enough weight, no recovery point on razor, metal shackles on kinetic rope and hope for the best. maybe get someone to show you how this should be done before more than door gets damage.

Love your channel need a cross over with Matt’s off-road recovery though to learn some proper recovery

Bronco owner is in shock, who would think of getting that type of damage on nothing more than a mud course

Not the best recovery job, Andre. Good for the Bronco owner for being such a good sport though.

whats the point of buying a 4x4 as a toy, if your gonna whine if you get a scratch, or break something. its part of the sport and this legend gets it :D

Man I’d be pissed if I was asked to drive my Bronco there (knowing it would most likely get stuck) and seeing a Polaris with a kinetic rope used for recovery. TFL should have a proper winch equipped vehicle ready if they expect people to risk their rigs 🤦‍♂️

Lance handled that damage really well and has a great outlook on what it means to buy and use a bronco. That said, I think a shovel and some traction boards would have done the trick here and saved him from the damage. The correct way is not always the easiest way.

After waiting 13 months for the vehicle, then having to wait another 6 weeks to get the new engine, I think I would have been really upset getting that door jacked up. I just take pride in my equipment.

Man that was a dirty trick who pulls somebody out like that no common sense

Terrible extraction. Next time bring a heavy duty pickup truck with a winch that could have pulled him out slowly. TFL should be ashamed of themselves.

Guys.... if you're going to build an off-road course and invite your viewers, you need to know how to perform proper recoveries. That could have been avoided so easily.

Maybe all of tfl should take a recovery class. Go to a local ohv park where local off road groups train how to use recovery equipment and what to use in different scenarios. Practicing on participants vehicles is not the way to learn. This recovery was just reckless.

Why not just slowly and easily pulled it out with the Ram?

Andre is gonna notice a deduction 😮in his next pay check! Lmao 🤣

I feel bad for Lance. I think it's a safe bet that his $10/month TFL subscription is going away soon.

Wow. That was violent. You need a truck with a winch to have control. The rope is great for the sand. Clear some of that brush.

Sorry, I think if that was my 4runner ( sorry bronco) I'll be a little upset with that kind of recovery, at least TFL should have offered to pay for some of the damage. Getting a sticker at the end of it was a little bit of an insult.

The CLUMSYNESS and AKWARDNESS ANDRE showes in every video is well put into actions here. If a channel called or has the name “offroad” in it THEN, there has to be a minimal level of knowledge about every aspect of offroading including recovering stuck vehicles. Their guest can have any level of knowledge it doesent matter , he is hosted by “professionnals” so the damages he sustained are 100% not his but ANDRe’s lack of thinking and irresponsability. Plus they are making $$$ off of this video in wich they used somebody else to provide content. His lack of 1. Respect for the guy and his bronco 2. Irresponsability 3. Everything in between wich has led to this type of result should be PAID AND ASSUMED BY TFLOFFROAD. I watch tfl for years now and i enjoy watching them but for gods sake scrap your own vehicles and if something like this happen,well, pay the dammages wether there is a contract or not between the host and guest 100% ANDRE is in the wrong here.

They are people that have 4x4 just to say : "oh it's a 4x4!!! I can go anywhere I want, but I never go..." . And there are people like this guy: "I pay for It, I want to use-it the way that I want!" This is my type "budy"... Is a scratch, a half broken mirror... In the end of the day it's a story, That my friend no one can't take from you. Take care.

Cringe... Some experienced drivers here in the comments have already pointed out all of the bad choices in the recovery. My issue is with the video editor; the Polaris (incorrect recovery vehicle) getting its own cutaway, Nathan coaching bad recovery habits??? Very difficult to watch. best thing would have been a voiceover with some "lessons learned" and a heart felt apology to lance.

TFL should pay for this damage in full. This is bullshit! I would have been so pissed! They don't know what they are doing, and this guy clearly does not have much off-roading experience. If TFL is going to have people drive their own personal vehicles through this course they built, they should at least educate themselves on proper recovery methods, so that they can in turn educate the inexperienced.

This video really bothers me! Andre- you seemed really on edge with Lance, like you didn’t trust his driving. And then his Bronco gets jacked up due to your towing, and you laugh about it? Kudos to Lance for taking it so easily, but there is certainly a sense of broken trust- Lance got screwed bringing his rig on your channel- at least offer to pay for his repairs. Not cool!!!

That was a very poor recovery guys should of had a winch to pull the guy out and pay for the guys repairs as well

Should really have a support vehicle with a winch to pull people out of the mud. The slow tension and the control breaking the suction is better then hitting hard with a kinetic rope and and having a greater risk of breaking a person vehicle or pulling them into a tree. We all know tfl can afford a some crapbox 4x4 that has a winch on it.

He was a good sport, but eh. I’d take the class Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery takes… I’m going to when I have some time. Matt seems awesome!

You guys owe this guy a door repair. I think a toddler could’ve pulled that bronco out with a power wheels better than that. Where was the momentum for any of this, I’m not going 2mph into deep mud just to sink in it….

TFL: Replace that man's door!!!

Dude was yapping at him on how to trail the most basic shit but got quiet when it got to the hard part. Pulled out his vehicle while scratching it the whole way down and the best thing he could do is give him a sticker? Pathetic. He’s one of his patron supporters too. His team should do something to pay this guy back

HAPPY Monday everyone.....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY ✌️

Note to self don't get TFL to pull me out of anything.

Damn that was a terrible recovery, I guess recovery guys was too excited to hit the throttle he forgot about the recovery, I wish they would cover some of the cost repair, as a company they should have insurance for this type of damage, cheer to the owner of the car u didn't deserved what happened.

I think Lance will stop supoting TFL as a Patreon, hopefully TFL pay for the damage

As soon as they started hooking up the kinetic rope I thought to myself oh you’re not supposed to use a kinetic rope when the stuck vehicle is in deep mud… and then bam, he got pulled into a tree lol. They should have told Lance to turn his tires driver so when they pulled him out, his bronco would’ve gone away from that tree/brush. And the recovery vehicle definitely should’ve tried a small bump on the rope first before giving it heck. Use as little force as necessary. I do feel bad for Lance. That’s going to be a good chunk on money to get that fixed. He did roll with it quite well though. Hopefully TFL offers to help Lance with the bill for the damage since the damage occurred during a not so well planned/executed recovery.

Way overkill on the pull. Time to get a winch to prevent damage. He should be paid for the damage.

I have a 2 door outer banks with same front bumper. For a winch I got a rough country high mount winch. The only thing it blocked was my front camera. But my front grill is different than his. Let him know to check it out. Said and done $700 ish dollars.

TFL needs to learn how to recover vehicles. Invite Colorado 4x4 rescue & recovery to the ranch.

Seems like a fair trade.. a massively scratched door and a broken mirror for a sticker.

Andre, could I recommend Matt’s Off-road Recovery for some lessons.

I think the full throttle recovery was wrong. I think Roman should pay for the man's damages since some idiot didn't know how to recover a stuck vehicle.

Don’t see anything said in the comments from TFL OFF-ROAD. Kind of disappointed. Yes the guy Lance stayed on the gas but the channel was pretty crappy for the shit recovery with a kinetic rope. Come on. Yes lance made it worse on the gas if they didn’t throw a few bucks at him then shame on TFL gang. I’m done watching their videos

Proper Bronco owner... respect!

4 wheeling means potential for damage...great classy participant

17:54 and that might be the end of viewers being able to tackle the TFL off-road course

That first scratch is coming and when it does I always feel like laying on the ground and screaming in pain, but it’s going to happen😫what a awesome cool guy, man he sounds like Nathan, one thing though that is really cool when a friend asks about the scratch answering them with me and Andre from TFL put that on there, might not get it fixed, like when George Jones kissed my mother n laws hand, she told everyone about it for years😂🤣😂🤣 got to have a Nathan’s Crack Certified stick made for those that attempt it and live!

Lance is a cool cat!!!! That recovery was ridiculous guys! Hope you learned something from that. I agree with Fab Designs. Hang the door as a reminder and aesthetics.

With that TFL lost a patron sponsor. Sorry Lance, we’ll miss your $10 per month.

You guys need to do some trimming in that landscape. The obstacles look great but no one wants to pinstripe or scratch their vehicle. Its about the 4x4 not silly branches (that can all be removed in a day) damaging vehicles. Make some space, you guys also test big trucks in there.

Andre needs some classes on recovery.big time

The new Bronco is a nice 4x4 but, you do need better tires. You couldn't give me one of the new STRETCHED JEEPS. Nothing replaces lockers and good off road tires!

The owner is so graceful... Hes demeanor is so soothing lmfao. Also that was a really botched recovery.... No need to go that hard.

Really should rename "Nathan's Crack". It was funny, initially, in a 4th grade boy kind of way. Now, however, it just comes across and juvenile and forces Andre to apologize every time.

You gotta get some speed with mud tires, they need to clean themselves so they can dig.

They’re more concerned for press vehicles but don’t care about the actual owners rig

A kinetic rope attached to a side by side is not a good choice for a nonsensical extraction in a made for YOU TUBE video by a bunch of clowns. As one responder pointed out, if that attachment point on the little Polaris had broken during high stress and that “D” ring gone flying through the Bronco things could have gotten a lot worse then the scratched door and broken mirror.

Worst recovery ever! You didn't even seem like it was a big deal. Pretty disappointed in that. You gunned it like a teenager leaving for college. Good on the guys attitude for such a blunder. He was really a good sport for the damage done.

Great guy hope his bronco is back to 100 soon!! Great video as always!

nathan's crack is a terribile name

The guy driving is super nice and a good sport. Both the driver of the side by side and the bronco driver was to blame. Bronco driver could have easily overpowered the inertia with his brakes the second he got close to the tree. The side by side was already stopped. However bronco driver kept giving it gas, backing into the tree. The whole situation happened too quick and was not planned out.

Wow! I never saw so many bad choices in one TFL video. Fix his Bronco TFL. If that was a loaner Ford Bronco for testing you would be fixing it.

That was overkill, next time use something smaller for doing a recovery. Maybe an E-bike (you can use the ram to tow it to the stuck vehicle)

Can’t out jeep the jeep. Lmfao. 😂 the blue JL said the bronco wasn’t making it

Not even close to a ford guy but the Bronco could have ate that up all day, without beating on it as well. I know they sign a waiver but in this case I hope TFL makes it right.

I'd be pissed if Andre pulled my new ride into a tree when there was a clearing on the other side! The side by side could have sprayed rocks into the Bronco windows too, what happened to using the Ram?

I do think for recovery you need to get a tractor that you can use to control slow and easy instead of the wild light weight thing giving hell and hoping to get it out

Jesus, I hope they edited out the first 5 unsuccessful tugs on that recovery. That was way too much speed for the first hit. Also, he needed to be pulled away from those trees, not through them.

I see all these guys hitting mud so slow. That’s not how you take it on. A guy once told me that it’s like $€#. You see the hole, you ease in, then you hit it as hard as you can till the motor blows. That’s about as clean as I can get it for a family channel

There is “Trail Trophies” and then there is damage caused by negligence. The trail did not cause that damage, the TFL crews actions did that damage.

Gents love your sites and course. One key suggestion. Please get soft shackles to attach your ropes verses D-rings - much safer

I think the course needs some significant maintenance if it’s going to be used to test/review 95% of the stock 4x4s on the market.

For the love of god get some real M/T tires. When A/T tires clog your done, they turn into drag slicks.

WTF was that Andre? You guys should know better after all the recoveries you have done.

I hope after making money off nearly 500,000 views so far off this video you fix the guys door for him.

This course is awesome

Andre was defiantly out of his element here. and showed very little confidence from the start of the video. Lance great attitude. That amount of damage on that dinky little trail is ridicules.

В чем смысл видео? То что вы называете "препятствиями" и "бездорожьем" у нас в России это нормальная дорога для любой машины! А вы даже в луже умудрились сломать и поцарапать машину!)) А толстяк вообще понятия не имеет как нужно водить Бронко в таких условиях если тут же посадил его на брюхо!))) Собственно только подтвердил собственную глупость! Ну и финал с дерганьем застрявшей машины... результат ожидаем! Боже, как все глупо!)

A bronco is my dream suv and a trx or Raptor R for high performance and luxury car a caddilac or Mercedes