Nvidia RTX 2060 Super/ RTX 2070 Super Review! Bringing The Battle To Navi! 

Wow, it's been a while since I was looking at Quake 2 framerates to gauge GPU performance. What a throwback.

Thanks for including ray tracing benchmarks. Everybody else only showed rasterization results.

9:47 DF so ahead of the game they already have access to Crysis 4!

TLDR: 2060 S = 2070 w/minor defects 2070 S = 2080 w/minor defects

Waiting for the RTX 3060 aka RTX 2060 Super saiyan 2

Too fucking expensive. I'm still sitting tight with my 970. Can we have a new midrange card with actual midrange pricing? I.e. 249-279ish?

I hope Digital Foundry does a Ryzen 3000 analysis.. i waited for the analysis of the 1rst and 2nd Ryzen generations but it never came. It does leave me a bittersweat flavor.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO PATIENTLY FOR THIS VIDEO SO GLAD ITS OUT!

Isn't the Radeon 7 a $700 Video Card. So if RTX 2070 Super at $499 is with in 5% in performance why would you get the Radeon 7? It doesn't have Raytracing or DSSL either..

Priced closer to expectations? What? Because 400$ is closer to expectations than 350$ for a cut down 106 than the usual 200$? And 450$ ( for vanilla 2070 ) is closer to expectations for a full 106 die than the usual 250$? 2x price = closer to expectations?!?!?!?

Nice video. Hoping to see another one in the near future comparing for the 2080 Super comparing the 1080, 1080TI, 2080, 2080 Super, and 2080 TI

I feel so sorry for the People who bought the RTX cards 6 months ago. It feels like a punch in their Face.

These cards look promising, but I have to say, the "super" branding is kind of cheesy looking...

People need to be wary of supporting these recent cards. Navi included (Which are actually RX 670, 680, and 690). We're paying out the ass for the smaller jumps in performance, small amounts of VRAM on the higher end, and upped prices on previously budget midrange Dies. It's a shame, as the architectures seem pretty great.

Thanks as always for the hard work in dissecting these performance results. Truly appreciated!

Yeaaa i'm good with my 400 usd 1080ti bought last year. Ray Tracing is definitely the future, though i'm not willing to play something with these kind of performance, it's just not enough yet, though i'm really glad the tech industry is pushing forward this approach this soon!

glad for 1080 ti, almost 3 y.o and still going strong. Literally the best GPU i've ever purchased.

Great review , great delivery : I usually rely on Gamers Nexus but you're added to my short list of go-to. Cheers!

It must be "super" for all of those people who bought the "non super" versions.

My Voodoo Rush performance benchmarks in Quake 2 sucked, twenty years later - same story :'D

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Hi, For Battlefield 5 you can use the COOP intro cinematics as benchmarks, they're always the same, show of a lot of detail (Especially the Rotterdam one) and have stuff walking over the screen

iven today after two years of bought the rtx 2060super and im not tinking about switching for another new arquiteckture any time sun. great work DF and NVIOIA too!!

I'm still happy with my GTX1070, but I only have a 1080p monitor. Once proper HDR high refresh monitors become mainstream price wise, and Ray Tracing gets better optimised and more Tensor cores, I'll consider a GPU and monitor upgrade.

16:14 Conclusions, for those of you who just can't watch the whole vid right now.

The first and only Review that acutally covers RT performance! Thank you so much DF :3

So now you can get a 2060 Super, running almost as fast as a 2070, for the price the 2070 should have been, only a year late. The GPU market is truly inspiring right now.

I think Nvidia Tegra Super will launch alongside with the Switch Mini first in coming September with normal spec and with Switch Pro in E3 2020 with higher spec

When you see RTX 2060 Super : 92 FPS on The Witcher III 's worst part, you know what s enough for you

"Crysis 4" 🤔 since when ???? (in the benchmark)

It seems to me that the developers for Battlefield know how to maximize performance with graphics. 🌿

3:45. Also the 'vanilla model' rtx 2060 sports an 8pin pwr connector.

great review Richard. hopefully the new cpus coming out will get same attention as well as their competition.

I still use my Korean 1440p 100hz panel with DVI dual link. DVI is not dead for me

A 60 class card for $400 yaay. I guess the only good news is that 1080 ti level of performance went down in price, but still $500 for a 70 class card is also overpriced.

I think the only problem with the 2060 Super’s MSRP being $400 US is that it now renders the 2060 almost useless and at the same time, you only have to spend $100 more to get the 2070 Super, almost making the 2060 Super useless. Here’s where I think, at the current MSRPs, where the Turing GPUs price/performance tier stands. Mid-Low Range: GTX 1660 ($220) Mid Range: GTX 1660 Ti ($280) Mid-High Range: RTX 2060 (now $350) High Range: RTX 2070 Super ($500), replacing RTX 2070 and making RTX 2060 Super pointless when only spending ~20% more High-Top Range: RTX 2080 Super (assuming $700), replacing RTX 2080 and most likely coming close enough to RTX 2080 Ti to make that GPU pointless at ~$200-400 more. I would almost have to think that a 2080 Ti Super is coming somewhere down the line with more of the TU102 core unlocked to match the VRAM of the Radeon VII, but that’s just my speculation.

So they pretty much renamed the 2070 and 2080 the 2060S and 2070S and are just selling the higher model with a new name at a the lower models price.

I just finished my first ever PC build. Before this I always bought my brothers “hand me down” pc parts if I wanted to play PC games. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 on a tomahawk 450 motherboard with 16gb of 3.2ghz ddr4 ram overclocked to 3733 and a PCI express 1TB SSD with a crazy fast transfer rate. I thought long and hard about the GPU and decided to go with an RTX 2070 super founders edition for the video card over a 2060S or a 5700xt. I got it mainly because I was really interested in ray tracing, but also because my employee discount allowed me to get it for $472 with a 2 year full warranty instead of $500 retail. It’s not much, but only $72 more expensive than the 5700xt with way more benefits imo. The 3rd party cards as well as the 5700xt had no discount so the price cut was a factor. I also have a dell 155hz 1440p monitor, which the 2070S seemed perfectly suited for. Because of that warranty I can return the card at any time over the next two years and use that money to get an upgrade in the future if I want in case a better card comes along like an AMD high end RTX card that’s rumored to release before the end of the year, so to me there is no downside. What do you all think?

Hi Richard, It would have been interesting to see also games that actually takes advantages of the new Technologies offered by the Turing Architecture, not everything is about RAW Numbers, yes a 1080ti may still be a little faster in terms of RAW CUDA core power, but games like Wolfensteing II that have things like VRS in them will give a Boost to the 2060 S and 2070 S, also the fact that they can do Integer and Float calculations at the same time, I think those sorts of test are important too.

I’m so glad I waited for this series of cards prior to upgrading my GTX 1060 6GB. I’ll be picking up an MSI Gaming Trio RTX 2080 S for my newest rig.

“Super” Nvidia? Really?? What next? RTX 64!!?

> Bringing the battle to Navi WHAT? WHAT DID I DO?!?

Crysis 4!!!? OMG the hype is real! I'm flipping the flip out! How can you just slide it in a benchmark without even discussing it!? Almost like it was just a typo...nah, I expect full Crysis 4 coverage in your next video good sir.

Seems compelling. Though I'm not sure whether to go for a 2060 Super or 2070 Super now that they both have 8 GB VRAM. Currently using an OC GTX 1060 6GB with a 4K monitor but for more modern / demanding games it's a big struggle to maintain 50-60 FPS. Is the extra £100 worth it?

I literally just bought a 2080, it was so recent I have still never received my stupid rebate for the damn thing. It was a pretty good sale though.

Waiting for the Radeon SUPREME series

I'm glad it's a step in the right direction...however, I don't see a point yet to upgrade to the RTX quite yet. I understand that I'm not getting the Ray Tracing features, but the GTX 1080 TI is still performing well to not really warrant an upgrade. I might wait for RTX 3 series or 4 before deciding to upgrade. Ray Tracing is something that is truly unique and needed for games, but the lack of support (although gaining speed) isn't worth throwing out the cash.

Can't wait for Rich's ryzen 3000 analysis

Quake 2 RTX doesn't even use the RTX or Tensor cores in the nVIDIA RTX GPU's. It's Path tracing like the CRYTEK NEON NOIR bench, which doesn't require any Ray Tracing hardware. It can be rendered on any GPU.

UPDATE: The "II Turbo Champion Edition" will be coming out as well.

returning the ordered 2060 for a 2060S ASAP

I think with drivers, the 2070S will significantly beat the 1080ti when it officialy released like how the 970 in the past beat the 780ti with drivers. Not to mention, Asus and other manufacturer cards with better overclocks appearing later

Totally buying a 2070 Super soon as their prices are finally not ridiculous! A decent upgrade of my 1660S finally.

I bought 2070 Super yesterday for £330. I'm jumping from my old 1060gtx so I hope this was a good choice. I didn't want to wait for RTX 3070 as it may be out of stock for a long time.

These are really solid cards. Should've been the launch RTX cards but oh well. I'm buying the RTX 2070 Super once they drop!

I'm regretting getting the 2070 now since the Supers are exactly what I would have wanted, but it'll be fine at 1440p until nVidia releases something next year, and I'm looking forward to seeing it. The RTX 2070 Super finally puts decent 4K performance into the $500 price range, which is exactly what I was hoping that the original 2070 was going to do when they released it so at least they're on the right track for the next product launch concerning cards in that price range.

Weird. When it's not a video about consoles, I'm not seeing one person complaining about the games running at less than 60fps.

Can’t wait for 2080 Super. Upgrading from 2060 with a nice money back warranty to cover some of the cost. And I’ll hold onto that card til they make significant leaps with ray tracing performance before upgrading again.

The most super things in this video are Richard's hands movements.

So nvidia screwing over customers again big surprise. So now my 2080 Isn’t even 1 year old and new “2070 super” is same speed at 300 cheaper

Can't wait for the 2080S test!!

they really need to stop wasting so much money on trying to make smaller production processes and do something about the other limitations like case standards and power. imagine a card that's four times the size of the standard graphics card (nearly the same size as your motherboard but runs at the same speed with the same size transistors. its the only real way we will continue to see improvements in graphics power without making such small transistors that the yield suffers so much the price shoots up. obviously that would need a different standard of case design and cooling systems. but if it were introduced as a new standard it would really open things up for 8k gaming at insane refresh rates with MANY more GB of video memory.

Amd cannot catch a break.

Not to over crowd the screen, but would have been neat to compare to the current RTX2080 seeing as the new 2070 is just shy of the current 2080

i would like to see what the 2080 super bring to the table vs 1080ti with matching price. How big of lead should it have for you to consider it? 10/15/20%?

Was anyone else thinking Richard's enunciation has improved lately?

I bought the rtx 2070 kinda got scammed :(

I think with further driver improvements the 2070 S might end up overtaking the 1080 TI. $500 for this is not a bad buy.

I feel like the 2070 Super is what the 2070 should have been at launch. Still, I’ll likely be buying one for my new rig. After all the talk of the FEs not being overclocked this time around, I wish you had talked about overclocked performance (if it’s even possible to overclock). Gamers Nexus seems to be the only ones who did that, and as much as I like them, I would love to see your take on overclocks, maybe even more.

Is the 2060 Super better than a GTX1080?

I can't wait for the RTX 2080 Ti TS

Need to see how these new Super cards do after a few weeks out in the wild but looks like I may finally move on from my 1080

In the end, that's how the RTX series should have been from the start (I know that the tensor cores manufacturing price has drop down since the launch but still).

Thank you for this benchmark ! :D Please, can you do (maybe the same) benchmark with AMD' CPU ? :)

Would have liked average clocks speeds for all cards.

I don't understand people freaking out about these cards being released right now as if they forgot that NVIDIA has always released cards yearly. This isn't some new thing, there are only a few years where they may skip a year. So if you don't understand that graphics cards releases are yearly when you buy yours then that is on you.

I wonder if a RTX2070 Super upgrade makes sense since I have a GTX1070...

Ah so the 2060S is a fully realized TU106 and the 2070S is an Alabama 2080. That makes sense.

Actually going to upgrade my GTX 1070 to the new RTX 2070 Super. With cost going Down $100 Founders Edition and performance basically being a GTX 1080 TI with Hardware Raytracing make this the perfect card for 1440P 60 FPS with Ultra Settings. No compromising

Thank you, Digital Foundry.

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Why not just cut all the prices by 100 dollars? The Super variants are essentially the same as an upgrade to the next step in the GPU ladder.

Can't wait to see how DF treats the Ryzen 3000 Cpu Review....if they actually cover it. DF can be iffy sometimes.

Thanks for the review. Looking forward to your thoughts on Ryzen and Navi.

Great video- thank you. Very informative

My good old 1080ti still deliver super fps on 144hz 1440p panel no need to upgrade so far.

The 2060S is a basically a 2070, and the 2070S is basically a 2080 - so that is one hell of a price drop (essentially a $100 drop on 2070, and a $200 drop on 2080). * 2080-like performance for $499 MSRP (vs 2080's $699 MSRP) = 2070 SUPER * 2070-like performance for $399 MSRP (vs 2070's $499 MSRP) = 2060 SUPER 2060 regular down to $349 MSRP isn't bad ($50 price drop), but it isn't necessarily rocking my socks off like the other two. That said, given they can price drop less as the initial price goes down, I guess -$200, -$100, -$50 makes sense (they probably cannot sell 2060 at $299 and make profit OR AMD is once again not competitive to get them to even if they DO make profit at the price).

17:50 "It's a good deal". It's utterly maddening to hear someone of Rich's standing in the community make such an asinine statement. By all means, let's break down the performance of these cards in detail. It's what DF does best. But the value proposition for the RTX series has been, and continues to be horrendous. Nvidia (and now AMD as well) are trying to convince pc gamers that $500-$600 for a mid range card should be the new normal, despite this generation being one of the smallest upgrades we've ever had. And the endless fawning over RT by DF won't convince anyone that's actually seen RT in games to buy these overpriced cards. PC gaming is in serious danger of suffering a major contraction in size if the community embraces this new generation of cards. Look at the used market instead of buying an overpriced, underperforming card from Nvidia or AMD. You can get GTX 1080's and Vega 56/64's for dirt cheap on the used market. Don't reward these people by buying their new cards when they're charging you more for less. A shame to see DF making the absurd statement that any of these cards are a "good deal".

Nvidia hasn't even started. There is still 58mm2 and 768 cuda cores left before they have reached the Titan V die size. Previous gens had the full chip released as a final lineup. Still waiting to see if they do it again. Sure it will be something like 11-12gb ddr6 ram instead of 24gb hbm but it will still be fast as heck. They are doing it already with the Supers. Just a tweak on the chips on put the boards. Hopefully AMD has something to counter with. It's fun to see some clashing of huge companies.

Quake 2 as a benchmark, what year is this??

Why are there no AMD cards in the benchmarks?

Getting tired of _rebuying the car for better tires at a higher price_ so to speak. RT core-only cards (RPUs?), like cards for Physx or sound, but now dedicated to lighting, would be great to have - but perhaps that isnt _technically_ possible. Custom rasterizing perf next to custom RTing perf would give consumers more options and be cheaper for companies to mfgr and gamble with for those who dont care about RTing so much, but absolutely want rasterizing to improve.

The 2070S is now a real XX70, as it uses the same die as the 2080. The former 2070 was more like a 2060 Ti as it only had the TU106. Still to fucking expensive! Lower prices by 100 quit and you'll have my interest!

So a 2080 super can be assumed to run near a 2080ti, especially if you OC it. If that turns out to be true and it is $700 bucks.. well hmmm. Don't regret my 2080 purchase back in November, but damn

Hope AMD reconsiders their pricing for the new GPUs. At least, they made Nvidia release the versions of the RTX cards that should have been released last year. The fact they weren't selling well must have influenced this release too. Either way, consumers being informed and competition help.

Don't let 5 year old's pick the names for you products otherwise you end up with stuff called super

the 2070 should have 12gb of vram though not 8

Awesome information as always, and well explained to. The 2080 super will be a interesting one, to see how close it comes to the 2080ti gpu. And with custom aibs coming out, well it will be even more interesting with higher boost clocks and overclocking to. 😊

Still i cant find logical reasons to upgrade my GTX 1080. Literally the best thing i have ever bought. There is no reason for ppl with a 1070+ card to upgrade. Just wait for rtx 3000.

so are they down grading the 2070 to make the 2060 super??... and down grading the 2080 to make the 2070 super? almost seems like it