Nvidia RTX Cards Are Here! DON'T BUY THEM! 

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How good are the cards They have ray tracing But how much faster RAY TRACING

RTX is overpriced tbh. It's Pascal with RT. (Edit) The livestream was also VERY vague for some reason... No real benchmarks or whatsoever.

step 1 anticipate for Volta after Vega fails to deliver step 2 holy crap mining is profitable step 3 2018 CES : nothing, but Titan V right ? Step Four is watching nothing getting announced at GDC Step Number the fifth : May, 2 year anniversary of GTX 1080 and it's been a year since 1080ti : still nothing Step 6 : It's been longer than 2 years and we don't know when Ampere/Turing/Volta drops Stage : 7 : Frustration : Hot summer + no new GPUs but deals on gtx 10 Phase 8, last week, anticipation of GTX 20 after siggraph Phase 9 : From Siggraph to gamescom : PURGATORY Phase 10 : Watch Gamescom Phase 20: Be disappoint

its funny how a used gtx1060/70/80 are still heavily overpriced in the market.

they didnt show the benchmark scores .. i wonder why

they are trying to take advantage of gamers. miners jacked up the prices. nvidia trying to keep the prices high.

that presentation was so sketchy. very disappointing, this is what happens when the competition sucks

I sit on 4x 1080Ti for work with 3d so I doubt I will be buying anything from this generation and probably next one too. I'll be happy to buy those cheap 1080 Ti's though from those who decide to switch ^^

I just bought gtx 1060 and im happy and not broke

If I had a 10 series I would hold steady.

way too expensive

Totally agree, they are trying to hard to convince that their concept technology is a must have, while it would be great for the future, game developers still has to make use of these new features, look at dx12 games, not many of those around and the majority won't be bothered with it until it goes full swing and stop being tech demos and become a reality for the next generation.

No competition = jacked up prices. Shocking

and i love jensen keep saying 'it just works!' who does think he is? todd howard?

Dont worry. There are many sheep out there and rtx series will be sold out until weekend if is not already be.

As a hardware enthusiast going back to 1970, I have to agree with @azazelleblack's take on things. This is not to say, however, that I don't share some of the same concerns you bring up in your video. For the sake of brevity, I'll do a sort of TL; DR: version of my impressions. 1. The tech advancement presented by Nvidia is a tremendous leap forward, like the move from black and white photos to color. I foresee future gamers expecting ray-tracing the way today's gamers expect patches. 2. For now, however, there is almost no benefit to it. Today's games do not use ray-tracing, and people generally don't miss what they haven't experienced. 3. Nvidia really bungled the pricing, this time. No matter how advanced your tech is, widespread adoption requires widespread availability, and that requires affordability. Computer history is littered with examples of tech being killed by overpricing.

Ray Tracing = Rekt Pricing Mama Su ... Please save us. New GPU

I think it was strategic move ro make games run worse on AMD hardware like the old days.

I cannot understand the argument that if something is fx 30% faster its suppose to cost 30% more. It makes sense within current gen of products.. etc 1070-1080-1080ti and so on.. but not from current gen to next gen aka 1080 to 2080.. if we follow this logic the 7080ti will cost around 4 grand.. how does that make sense?

I agree and disagree with you. I am all for new technology and anything that improves realism in games, which is what ray tracing does. It also makes it easier for developers to add realistic lighting and shadows to their games, since they will become realistic without any real effort. But do we, as consumers, need it right now? No. However, if ray tracing is the future, it has to be implemented at some point, and from a marketing viewpoint, now is a pretty good time to do it for Nvidia while they have a performance lead over AMD. The prices, though, are just insane.

This is Nvidia blatantly ripping us off. The 2080ti is now taking the price point of a Titan? They're not even trying to hide it. Edit - I said 1080ti when I meant 2080ti. Man have they got some brass.

the reveal was basically a physics lesson

im going to be waiting for reviews and benchmarks before i buy

To be fair, raytracing will be the biggest leap in graphical fidelity in games in years. But yeah, current gen games won't benefit from it. The demo's they showed were very impressive. If you don't have a background in 3d your probably don't think so, but they are and got me super excited. I have 3 gpu's and use them for GPU rendering (raytracing) and these new cards will be a TON faster for what I do, so i'm defenitely picking up a 2080ti. If you just play games then just pick up a 1080ti for cheap.

Don't care about RT. I want higher 2k and 4k FPS

Pricing shouldn't scale with performance.

Nvidia: "So that UFD Tech guy... don't send him a review card. HES A BIG MEANIE who cares more about consumers than blind consumerism and brand loyalty, hes pure evil!!"

As someone who is more into game development, I have a different perspective on the conference. Perhaps from a consumer's perspective the information presented was confusing, but from a developer's perspective I am quite blown away by the conference and the advancements of technology. Putting some of the points about misinformation about pricing, aside let me break down a few key takeaways I got from the conference. 1) Shadows and Lights : In the video he complains about so much focus on shadows and says, we will "just want to turn them off anyway." I feel this expresses a fundamental misunderstanding of the technology. Once ray tracing is enabled, there will be no "Turning shadows on and off" option. The reason why, is because all light is simulated accurately as if it were in real life. All of the effects and tricks developers have been using to simulate realistic lighting conditions are made obsolete. This is a Giant leap in technological abilities. 2) AI rendering: One of the significant leaps is that we are using AI to upgrade the graphic resolution. This would mean that a card could render an image at 1080p and upscale it to 4k, and increase the graphic detail. Also it will eliminate the need for traditional Anti Aliasing. All of the pixel edges again would be handled by Artificial Intelligence. This would result in a significant increase in efficiency for running modern games on these cards. 3) Art design for developers: This is significant, because many games use textures and art to simulate the lighting conditions in games to make them look ray-traced. Often environments have what is called "baked lighting" applied to them. That is all of the lighting is pre-calcuated and applied to all of the objects as a texture. This process currently can take 20 minutes or more for a developer's machine to perform this operation. All of these environments, which he is saying do not look much better are using ray-traced lighting, which mean although they do not look much better, they are no longer using light maps and other tricks to give it the appearance of using ray-tracing. In conclusion: What we see here is a significant leap in GPU technology. For consumers, the improvements are not so obvious, because developers have been doing many tricks throughout the years to simulate the effects of ray tracing on rasterized environments. It is also likely the games showcased have not been optimized for ray-tracing, and are using art assets that were designed for more rasterized graphics. Once we see games designed exclusively for ray-traced cards we will see the generational leap from this new technology. I will say that this technology is worth all of the hype, yet it may not be obvious right now for most consumers, and we will have to wait until some of the new games come out for us to see first hand what all of the hype is about.

The rtx 2080 is the price of my six core ryzen PC

I'm with you there, the effects were pretty, but the pricing, benchmarks missing, and the founders being overclocked (I always thought of founders as the standard clock speed) was just bizzar. I'll be waiting the benchmark numbers show up on these cards.

As a 3D artist I understand how insanely performance intensive raytracing is and how important it is for the future of computer graphics. It's not easy to explain to normal gamer plebs but it is in fact a big deal. It is a big leap and I am more excited about these cards than I was about Pascal. Raytracing is easy to demonstrate with shadows and reflections but it's only a small part of the way we can use it's application. This might change the way we play games because of Ai and collision in games beyond our wildest dreams because we will be finally be able to raytrace our real-time data instead of faking everything. Games will stop feeling like games and will start feeling very plausible. This will have a profound effect on stealth games, sports games, racing games,... about everything will change because of this new super power devs can now use. This tech is soooooooo vastly different that developers first have to completely change the way we make games in order to fully exploit and use this tech. This is why the demo's feel so bare and uninteresting. There was no reason to invest development time in this tech before because we simply didn't have this brute Force raytraced computing power. In the past I have waited 5 hours for my PC to render out 1 raytraced image on the CPU. Now I can do 60 in 1 second. Let that sink in. This power is truly futuristic computing power. We are living in the future.

I'm trying my best not to make this a personal attack, but I really don't think you understand. Jensen isn't hyping his product. HE IS HYPED. This is his Steve Jobs iPhone moment. Or his Jobs iPad moment. For consumer-grade computer graphics (i.e. gaming), this is one of the biggest leaps forward probably since the programmable shader, or maybe even the entire genesis of parallelized graphics acceleration. Imagine a problem that people told you could not be solved because it's just too hard computationally, like cracking 128-bit encryption. Ten years later, you've conquered what everyone said was impossible, and brought it to market because your product stood at the crossroads of several critical computing technologies (e.g. Deep Learning). Over time, you've built an incredibly talented team that realized they could use these technologies to not only solve that problem, but blow it out of the water. That's Jensen in this video. He's pumping his fist, spiking the football, doing a victory lap because he solved real-time ray-tracing, and he is about to earn his fifth championship ring. Now, there are some issues. Is the visual fidelity improvement big enough to draw a lot of gamers to upgrade their graphics? Time will tell, and we'll see with the numbers, but over time, people will start to see their friends running RTX cards and either decide that it's great or not. Eventually, within a year or three, I guarantee the majority of gamers will have moved over to a card with RTX-level technology, prices will go down as they iterate with this new tech. Also, I imagine Sony and Microsoft have been holding off their 5th gen consoles for this graphics technology, as this is likely to be one of the key tech differentiators to get people to upgrade their consoles. So, yeah, this is a big fricking deal, and it's understandable that a lot of people don't get it yet. One thing on which I do agree with you is that it's advisable to understand exactly what you'll be getting with a founder's edition card versus waiting until the preorder hype passes. NVIDIA's website is completely lacking in any technical specs for the initial product, which is a big WTF. Lastly, it will be tricky to compare GTX and RTX card performance. It's kind of like comparing the dialing performance of a traditional mobile phone and a smartphone. Okay the smart phone isn't much faster, but what about all the things the smartphone does that the dumbphone doesn't?

AMD we need NAVI now.

I'm just gonna take advantage of the 10 series price drop and pick me up a 1080ti

Starting at $499 and they shows 2080 ti picture LOLLLL

The reason why the prices are different on their website because its a Founders Edition, and at Gamescom, it said "FROM" meaning third-party versions of the graphics card are FROM those prices and up and it doesn't have to be that price.

its like nvidia hair works...look guys it looks so good!! you NEED it...only 3 games actually use it FFXV witcher3 etc....and it tanks the performance...but this time is worse and you are actually paying a premium for it.

The irony is that i always turn shadow detail down to medium ,to get more fps for Ultra textures at 60 fps , (and thats most of the time ,the only setting i turn down)because shadow detail above medium are almost useless for me in a game anyway , u almost see no diff between medium shadow detail and ultra shadow detail but fps drops allot if u choose ultra shadow detail for 3A games That makes Real time reflections, shadows to have zero sense for me :)) And to be fair how often people search , or check for shadows or reflection in real life, this is the same for gaming in many ways :)))

Me: I don't think shadows are worth 1000$ Jensen: IT JUST WORKS Me: SOLD

I pre-ordered. But, I skipped the 10-series, and do some 3d work and am hoping RTX helps there in addition to gaming. But the analysis is spot-on. When Nvidia demos Tomb Raider at 1080p BELOW 60fps due to ray-tracing, and thinks we're supposed to be excited, they're drinking their own Koolaid. Absence of non-RT numbers and demos shouts volumes about what to expect... as does having to be told why you want a $1200 card, instead of simply shown. 10-series is a great value before they dry up.

People who pre order these should use the link in description that goes to that psychologist service

Don't buy them? tell that to my sheep-like friends who have 1070's and 80's but are rushing to pre-order. They don't even play at 4k, most still play at 1080p and only some at 1440p. Seeing as I have a GTX 1080, I will wait for the RTX 2180Ti sometime in 2020.

Sounds like the GeForce 3 all over again. Sure ray tracing will be standard and look great in games, but by the time it's fully implemented these cards will be old news and obsolete... Just my guess anyways.

Guys and girls, listen please. Battlefield V going to have ray tracing and it is good. Why? Because of this overpriced GC and this can eliminate many toxic 12 years old kids because they got no money to upgrade it.

I'll be only paying attention to the benchmarks on non-ray tracing. The majority of all gamers that care about performance are turning off the HDR, ray tracing, MSAA, etc. When little Jimmy with his 1080TI has ray tracing turned off and sees you hiding in the corner or bushes you think is hidden because of the darkness provided by ray tracing's realistic lighting effects, it won't matter how pretty it is because you're already dead. Ray tracing is an amazing technology, but I think they're missing the target audience here. They need to be prioritizing performance first and special features second. If non-ray tracing performance is only providing a 10-20% increase over 1080TI, then I'm 100% out on this generation. Especially for the ridiculous touted prices.

I'm not surprised at the prices. It's them acknowledging they could have made even more money with the 10 series, due to the price surge, and throwing this is as the new normal. It's not ok. It's not ok at all. I, for one, will not be buying it, even tho my computer is way past due for a major upgrade. Even tho I see it as the overwhelming opinion of everyone also being against it, I wouldnt be surprised their Q3 profits will reflect otherwise. I'mm saddened that there is no real competitor against them at this point. This is not what free market should look like. Hopefully that means the 10 series will come down in price (doubt it tho) to reflect their real value, being the 2 year technology that it is. Thank you NVidia, you never fail to disappoint us.

Wanna see a magic trick? Poof, an extra hundred dollars!

The thing is that a lot of people doesn't know what it takes to have reflections like this so I think that's why Nvidia spent a lot of time explaining what this tech is aiming to. There're a lot of tricks and tweaks to fake the bounce of light in game and it's a real pain to set if you want to achieve really nice reflections. I couldn't imagine to have that kind of tech before like 10 years. Off course this tech isn't day&night but its a HUGE step forward for more realism in real time engines. Sure the examples aren't very explicit but when you see the limitations of SSR (screen space reflections) or cubemaps and light probes it's heaven for lighting artists. This said I agree on not buying them just for the sake of having realistic reflections for your games. But for professionals working in the industry like me, this was like some dream come true and I think that I'll get one later to help speed up my workflow.

we're going to need those therapists after hearing those prices

No joke, in sweden they want over 1300 Dollars for 2080 ti. I can fly to us and Save money....

We need price cut on Pascal... I need to buy 1060 at cheaper rate or 1070 at 1060 rates...

Sir, you AREN'T TOO SMART. People who don't do 3d rendering won't truly appreciate what RT is all about and how big this is. Too negative, why don't you appreciate where we've gotten to in tech today. This is just simply amazing. I've been doing 3d for 15 years now, and YES folks, you should be very excited.

I actually fell asleep during the presentation. Not a even joking. I'll be skipping this generation and waiting for 7nm high end card which I expect to be out late 2019

RTX = RayTooXpensive. Also what about mining?

People bought GTX 960s over discounted R9 290s, R9 280s and R9 380s. They deserve this.

What pisses me off the most is how they seem oblivious to the fact that 60fps is no longer acceptable. High refresh rate is infinitely more important than fancy shadows.

RTX brings realistic reflections and shadows to games. Something I pay very little attention too.

I'm buying two 2080Ti cards and smashing them on youtube. Be ready.

So it's £1000 for...shadows. And that is so true what he said, everyone turns shadows off anyway LUL

The fact that they slowed down the games to focus on Ray tracing and nothing was shown in regular gameplay, is basically details, which will be ignored by players in fast pace games. Skipping the 2000 series, and getting a better monitor will be the better investment for me...

AMD? Intel? 3dfx? Can someone help us? PLEASE!!!!

I just bought GTX1080 I won't upgrade unless it's worth it and I'm gonna wait for Linus review and yours

It feels like a Volta chip using GDDR6 over being a new architecture. Almost like they had a ton of these very big, very expensive Volta chips and decided to 'gamify' them and came up with pseudo ray-tracing as the application. Here's a comparison between the 2080 and 1080 using theoretical numbers with the new 2080 having..: - 40% increase in memory bandwidth - 13% increase in FP32 shader performance - 13% increase in texture fill rate - 4% decrease in pixel fill rate - 19% higher TDP It seems they've gone for a marginal boost to shader performance at the expense of fill rate. That's the direction AMD took with Vega. It hurt them in older generation games but they do very well in newer engines/APIs. NVIDIA has not been as aggressive so that small drop in pixel fill rate should mean they remain the fastest card for older games and should perform better in more modern titles too. There are some other tricks such as rapid-packed math open to them now but I'd imagine we see no more than a 15-20% performance increase in the usual suite of titles people use for benchmarking. (with an equal increase in power consumption). They have moved to a 12-nm process (same as Volta) vs pascal's 16-nm which increases power efficiency and lets you add transistors but much of those transistors are dedicated to tensor cores which will, at least initially, go mostly unused. Fully half the die space on a big expensive chip is dedicated to these deep learning related systems which is a big gamble for NVIDIA if they go unused. Some leaks have suggested the 2080 will be 50% faster than a 1080 but I don't see how that's possible. I'm only going on the information that's just now been officially released and that may not tell the whole story. I'm assuming the claims of big performance increases are related only to ray-tracing where dedicated hardware exists on the new card and that's perhaps why there was zero boasting about game benchmarks in the release. For fun here's a comparison between the 2080 and Vega 64 using paper numbers: - 7% lower memory bandwidth - 20% lower fp32 shader performance - 20% lower texture fill rate - 11% increase in pixel fill rate - 27% lower TDP So remember that bit about the trade off in pixel fill rate vs shader performance? That was AMD's strategy but they had to wait for developers to catch up. Nobody was impressed with performance in existing games at the time of release but now both the Vega 56 and Vega 64 beat the 1080 in newer games like Far Cry 5 and Wolfenstien 2. The boosts to the 2080 should mean NVIDIA can match or just overtake Vega when it comes to these newer titles and maybe that's the point of the release. It occurs to me another reason to suspect we've just got Volta chips here is the lack of HDMI 2.1 support. That spec was finalized a year ago and it was in the works since Jan 2017. Why would a new architecture not support a new standard?

Ray Tracing is the forced DLC in NVIDIA GameWorks that we gamers don't need.

Until Raytracing becomes more common I'll stick with my 1070

AMD needs to pull a RYZEN and get competitive in the GPU scene again

I agree with most of your points but I am gonna have to disagree with you about the shadow improvements that you talk about at 9:37. I think you missed the entire point of ray-tracing and the hybrid rendering technique that NVIDIA is using. Shadow will NOT cost MORE performance to render with RTX on. It will cost LESS because the GPU will off-load the heavy performance hitters such as global illumination, real-time reflections and dynamic shadows to the RT Core of the GPU processor. So instead of rasterizing these effects, the normal way, they will instead be ray-traced so that the rasterization part of the GPU has more resources to render the more important stuff. Kind of like how game performance went up when developers figured out that they could off-load certain workloads to the GPU instead of the CPU because the GPU does it 10x faster.

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The technology is absolutely amazing, but far too many gamers are interested in this and not enough of people that this applies to. Are you freaking kidding me? Actual ray tracing in real time? That will revolutionise extremely complex mathematical calculations, it's going to make physical simulations a blast! Other than that, they showed some really impressive machine learning achievements, but the crowd was dead silent because they want games. This is all marketed towards gamers, which is just plain wrong. Gamers don't care about all this, developers do a pretty good job at faking shadows, lighting and reflections, so why would they want real shadows and lighting? It was frustrating to watch the presentation. In my opinion, this is not for gamers.

I'm going to need BetterHelp when I buy those new graphics cards lol

I guess unless you're an animator/game developer, you wouldn't understand why real-time raytracing is such a big deal. But generally, this is technology that was only capable of being rendered on feature films or shows. Because of the amount of time it took for one frame to correctly show what was ergonomically intended. Long story short is that you will now see in the coming years games that are extremely realistic to how things are naturally portrayed in real life.

Can I just have the GTX 2080 TI w/o the Ray Tracing for $500 less?

What seems to be going on is these cards are geared towards us 3d content creators. These card's can speed up render times dramatically enabling us to create content faster. I agree that should be explained & you're totally right about not pre-ordering. Thx.

Guys, Ray-tracing is not for gamers. It's for developers. They can finally put their bump maps and fake lights to rest, and let actual physical simulation of light do the work for them. Developers can perhaps invest less time into thinking how light interacts with their scenes and focus on other things like optimization or squashing bugs. However, I think this "innovation" from Nvidia seems to be quite devious. Yes, it will push the visual quality of games. Yes, it will make life easier for developers. But as a first-gen product, the RTX series seems like more of a money-making machine than its predecessors. In order to implement ray-tracing, they had to redesign the architecture from scratch, which is expensive. If competitors like AMD and Intel don't adopt this new RT paradigm, they will either a) steer the market away from ray-tracing tech, or b) be at a MASSIVE performance disadvantage in future games that will most likely adopt ray-tracing. We're not sure about Turing's performance gains over the 10 series in games that do not use ray-tracing, since it's designed for ray-tracing. In summary, Nvidia just launched a new lighting paradigm in games. To do this, they made a completely new architecture (expensive) and worked with developers to implement this technology in their games (gives Nvidia an unfair advantage). It's the perfect storm. They're innovating and pushing the envelope and are, at the same time, being extremely anti-consumer by jacking the prices up (rightfully so, because Turing is expensive to produce). Intel and AMD have a lot of catching up to do if games keep implementing ray-tracing.

They did the pricing so people still buy 1080. Only upper class will buy these.

That's the problem: if the price is 40% higher, we should expect at least 40% higher performance, but the question is IS the performance 40% higher? We don't know, because you can only pre-order it, and it is already sold-out, but the people who pre-ordered it had no performance-information that they could actually compare to the current cards.

I know what they are doing. It's called, "corporate greed".

In the last moment, they were like -Mehhh lets double the prices, the sheeps are gonna buy them anyways :D

I was looking forward this kind of videos. Real talk here

IMHO the problem is scalability: Ray tracing is physically based so you can implement easily most visual effects just by knowing the laws governing them. While shader based render needs to be reinvented every time there's the need of a step up (like global illumination or subsurface scattering). Hardware can finally support real-time ray tracing so it just does not make any sense to keep using a technology that was developed because at the time GPUs just couldn't do real-time ray tracing... It just makes sense.

The day benchmarks come out will be judgement day...

Yesterday i got a 1080 ti and i am not regretting anything!!!

What do you know, the prices were even higher than my already high estimates.

I paid about $350 for my GTX 770 five years ago when I built my first computer. It's served me well. I'm buying the RTX 2070 for $500 -- and I fully expect that in five years it will be performing like the 770 is now. Decent, stable, playable. I could really care less about Ray Tracing. Looks OK in its infancy, but if it becomes the norm for games and they are able to utilize and optimize it, why not get the card that's built with the new techniques and technologies in mind? If Ray Tracing _doesn't_ take off for whatever reason, I'll still have a long-term work horse of a GPU. And I'm happy with that :)

Rather go to LTX than buy an RTX! Fun aside, i see no Reason upgrading at this point. Rather make some builds with some eventually cheaper 1080ti´s..

I was contemplating on getting the 2080ti but with that price?! No thanks

I’ll wait till Black Friday and get a 1080/1080ti for half the price

ray tracing isnt just fancy shadows, its completly changing the way game engines handle light. Its the same technology used by render engines in films. This is so much better for devolpers to create much better looking games in general. Real time ray tracing is actually a big deal.

The lack of the competition from team RED made Nvidia treat gamers like idiots, he was talking gibberish to people to cover up the fact that the performance in gaming is a little to may be none improved at all, he was selling Ray Tracing like there is no tomorrow, to us gamers that’s just one feature in many we see every day when we go to advance video menu in games, we turn some down and some up to keep the FPS as high as possible. Did he ever mention FPS? I don’t think so, and that’s the only thing we care about Mr. Jensen Huang.

well...the rumor is, the reason they are releasing the 2080 ti is because the 2080 will barely beat or will be on par, with a 1080 ti. the normally release the 80 card then wait to drop the ti card to milk more money. so if they are charging $1200 it’s because the 2080 ti is the only way to really beat a 1080 ti and without competition from amd, suckers will pay that premium. truth is, when amd has cards that competed and even beat nvidia, nvidia mindshare kept people buying their crap and stopped people buying amd, the 480/580 is on par with the 1060 yet the 1060 way out sold them. if you can get an amd card that is on par with nvidia, you who are reading this, you should buy amd. we need amd to make money to compete with nvidia to bring competition and drop the prices.

I'd rather have a gt 1030 with a 1080 physX card ;)

One thing you have to keep in mind is that the ray-tracing algorithm has been out for years, but never real time. I totally agree that this ray-tracing stuff may not be the thing that the customers really care. but as a technical person in computer graphics, this is a revolution in CG and more specifically in gaming. I also agree that the graphics do not really look that much improved in the sense of visual effect, but FYI texture quality and particle simulation (fire and water) are also factors of visual quality. I personally think this technology is extremely impressive from a technical point of view. As there are still a lot of problems remained unsolved in the CG field, and one of them was real-time raytracing. Again, no offense, just an idea, and sorry for my bad English

gotta wait for the benchmarks. i don´t care about raytracing, but if a 2080 can do 100 fps in 4k, i´ll buy it.

I swear! Intel got complaisant with AMD not giving them any challenge and got face planted and kicked in the balls from Ryzen and Threadripper. Now Nvidia seems to follow in Intel's foot steps, and if by a miracle the GPU department of AMD pulls an other stunt like Ryzen now and face plant Nvidia...it would the end of the world.

That's too late, I'm pretty sure the second the website updated with the new cards tons of people bought some. Those prices are goddamn ridiculous though.

It's funny. That first "RTX off" example looks like it simply has shadows turned off, even though quite high-quality shadows have already been possible for over a decade now. (Of course it might be that traditional shadow techniques are significantly _slower_ in this particular scene, but even if that's the case, that information is not conveyed through the demo. If it's a question of speed, a better demonstration would have been to have traditional shadows vs. raytraced shadows, and a FPS counter.)

They didnt show they are faster in normal games without ray tracing because the % faster is probably only in ray tracing LOL. The 2080 ti in my country is 833 USD more expensive than a 1080 ti. DON'T SUPPORT THIS SHIT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T BUY THEM.

Video Card is Now Half the Price of the whole computer

if I read correctly, didn't the RTX 2080TI have worser specs than the 1080ti in some things? like base and boost clock for example? will the 1080ti perform better in gaming with higher fps? I'm confused...I dont want a rendering card, I WANT A DAMN GAMING CARD! not shadows not light. PURE FPS GAMING!