To put it in perspective for those who are still stuck on Pascal, it's basically 1070/1070Ti performance, depending on game...it sits between GTX 1660s and RTX 2060 performance.
@@MadQmike You have a Gamers Nexus review to check...it trades blows with 1070, somewhere it's slightly better, somewhere slightly worse. It still have advantages like NVENC and DLSS...
LOL almost 6 years later and this piece of shit is not even 50% faster than a 1060 6gb. Nvidia and RADEON have been dogshit for the midrange and low end this generation.
Pascal really was an incredible generation, I’m still using a 1080 and it holds up incredibly well. I can do 1080p and 1440p no problem and even 4K works in a lot of games with a mix of medium and high settings
The market jumped over its head, NVidia and AMD basically raced themselves out of market. Game requirements didn't improve much, hardware prices exploded, and both NVidia and AMD found themselves alienated by the player base as nobody needs to buy the latest hardware, and the public doesn't have the spare cash to upgrade cards every 2 years.
Well. 3060 starts in europe usually at 650E. I can't imagine this having a price tag below 500E. Prices seem to fall very slowly even with crypto crash so no choice but being patient.
I am all for a cryptocrash but even if it happens, I seriously doubt the prices will fall back to normal on the new market that is. Seeing how people are capable of buying 1200USD/€ cards, they will probably never go back to 200USD/€ low end cards anymore, and leave it at 400USD/€ The flood of mining cards will be plus I guess
GPUs are being used in AI/ML applications, so even if the bottom fell out of the cryptocurrency market tomorrow, it would have no impact on pricing of GPUs. GPUs have better performance in AI/ML big data applications than CPUs.
Great example showing the 3050+12100 performance as a realistic use case for someone just starting from zero, for everyone else with a running system with dedicated gpu this won't be much of upgrade unless you really want dlss
no one should be 'upgrading' to a 3050 for DLSS imo. The upscaling just isn't good enough for 1080p. For new builds though, this is a great entry level card. Right now in Australia it's actually $60 cheaper than the 1660 super, and $85 cheaper than a 2060.
yeah same, i see all these comments saying "wow so amazing how those 2 year old cards hold up to the newer ones", like bro, you buying a new card every year or something? My GTX960 still rocking all new games on medium settings.
One of the most sensible reviews and selection for test bench with the i3, I watched - "Gaming Performance: i3 vs i5, i7, i9 Intel 12th-gen" and understood why i3 fits perfect for 1080p gaming in 2022. Such quality content.
Big thankful I got my 2070 Super before all this mess happened. Still running strong, and I have no desire yet to game above 1080p with 144hz refresh rate.
@@Steve-ph7qn It was released July 2019, almost three years ago. It's noteworthy for its lifespan. I think it'll handle the next year's worth of game releases, which I'm thankful for.
This is a good and honest card, even if you end up paying around $300. wow, I hit the jackpot over a year ago. Bought a new GTX 1660S for msrp and about a month later I won the newegg shuffle to buy the RTX 3060 for MSRP. still have both.
@@saricubra2867 Very interested to see how the pricing holds up though. If you can pick one up for anything close to MSRP (unlikely looking at trends) then yes, it's better than nothing but as long as you're not allergic to second hand less than a 2060.
Looking at the local stores here in my country, it seems like people are indeed fools themselves. I saw one person bought a 6500xt for $350. If this keep going, the prices now would be the norm for the next decade.
some called me a fool when I upgraded my 2060 to a 2070S in May 2020 like "wait for the new GPUs !" well well, seems like I dodged a bullet, and me and my brother are comfortable enjoying our 3 year old cards
Probably helps that the 16xx series focuses only on rasterisation performance. Feels like the RT cores on the 3050 are pretty much a waste of space. The puzzling thing is, I don't think the chip is even a cut down version from higher end cards? I suppose Nvidia and AMD have just decided they're never going to release non-raytracing cards again, got to tick that box on the back of the packaging.
@@liamness Yeah it sucks that Nvidia will probably never release any non-raytracing cards again, I'd rather sacrifice the RT cores for more performance in memory. It would be nice of them to release updated 16xx series GPU like GTX 26xx or 17xx but of course as you said it will probably never happen :/
gotta love nvidia making a budget $250 card that can't be bought under $500 right after launch. at this point it's almost been 2 years like the market gotta go back to normality someday right?
Can tell you it's possible. I was checking few online retailers (few times a day) for last two weeks and today while not really expecting anything as it's Saturday I couldn't believe what I see , 3050 for £239 what is UK's msrp. It's a shite card but I have 780Ti which is complete rubbish at this point, £239 is acceptable price to pay and be done with it till next gen where I plan to get 4k setup. Would prefer RX 6600XT if I could find it around £300 but these are sitting at £449 minimum and it's too much for a throwaway card.
3060 is 200-220% higher priced than the 3050 in Norway. It's not bad for the price point in the current market. Way better offering than 6500 XT in every aspect.
DLSS is really the killer feature here if you can get a 3050 for a decent price. DLSS quality (for games that support it) with optimized settings can probably get you to 1440p/60fps in everything but Cyberpunk.
I’d rather just play at native 1080p than 1440p with DLSS. I feels it’s massively overhyped marketing bullshit just like ray tracing. I run native 1440p on my 3070
isn't that RT + DLSS the equivalent of playing at a lower resolution scale with an high antialiasing multiplier? I don't have a ray tracing capable card (not at decent framerates) but this seems like a cheap trick to me
@@GMoneyy3000 It really isn't (most of the time). The most recent version or two of DLSS "quality" actually looks better than native resolution in some games. It's 95-100% the quality of native res in most others. I have a 3060 ti and use DLSS where possible because I get 20%+ better performance most of the time with no visual change that I've noticed. If you want to pixel peek or analyze blown up screenshots you might find some differences, but just playing a game like you normally would it'll basically look the same other than the higher framerate.
@@amnottabs DLSS doesn't really work like anti-aliasing at all. Digital Foundry has some pretty good videos on what it actually does and why it's better than any other "upscaling" solution available right now.
New subscriber here, just wanted to say i appreciate how you get right to the point on your subjects. Keep up the great work. Looking foward to your future videos!
Cause ebay is full of eejits. I was talking about it with a mate who used to flip/sell overpriced stuff on ebay, he still can't grasp how the hell he was making so much money doing that bs.
I have an Asus ROG Strix Gtx 1080 8g gaming. I purchased the Asus ROG Strix 3050 yesterday, and I’m already regretting it after comparing specs and watching reviews.
current situation certianly puts some previous activity in the used market in a different light, definitely remember when folks were selling 2080s/1080 Tis for cheap right before the 30 series launch, probably hurts now. I managed to get a 3080 from EVGA’s queue, and sold a 980 Ti to my buddy for cheap. But man I don’t think I even at my most pessimistic expected things to be this bad for this long!
I got an early RTX 3080 and then sold my 2080 for 450$ because I thought it’s value would plummet when the 3070 and 3060ti came out. Wanted to build my girlfriend a system 6 months later at the height of the GPU apocalypse, couldn’t get a card, and just said fuck it and bought her a 3060 gaming laptop. Still kicking myself for selling that card.
@@MechAdv Yeah, I don’t think anyone was thinking it would be this bad, I certainly don’t blame you for having done that at the time. The price to performance at the original 3080 MSRP was killer!
@@ImOnMy116 Yeah I won the F5 spam contest at Newegg before the shuffle was implemented. I was actually upset at the time because I got the worst 3080(MSI Ventus 3x OC) for the seemingly exorbitant markup of 750$ plus 20$ for shipping. Getting stiffed with the shipping really rubbed me the wrong way, now I laugh about it. I guess my good fortune called for a forward payment of giving another gamer a great deal too. Lol
Knowing that Microcenter was selling those Asus 2060 for a ridiculous $440 all of 2021...well they somehow look competitive after seeing the 3050 numbers. And the fact that the 3050 will never be available at $249. I'm betting it's at least $350 or $450 even. Frankly kind of sad how things have played out since Summer 2021.
I bought this because I had little choice. My Gigabyte 2060 went belly up and I had nothing. At an inflated price that I could afford, I was was able to find this card in one place that was in stock. The only good news for me is that I play older titles in 1080P but heavily modded so the 8Gb memory will probably help that. I am going to try to get my 2060 repaired but I don't know anyplace yet where I can send it.
I have a 1070 at the moment, I just bought a titan xp on eBay for $550 3060 ti performance for that price is awesome. I was hoping the 3050 would be better than my 1070, but I’ll put the 1070 In my vr pc
I'm really happy with my 2080 super that I bought 2 years ago. Didn't even thought I would be that happy because I originally planned a build with a 2080ti.
Good for you, I sold my 2080 Super at the worst possible time before prices skyrocketed because I wasn't gaming at the time. Now I can't play anything because it's unaffordable.
Well I just got it for about $330 on newegg and that was the cheapest one they offered. Probably should have just spent an extra $140 or so on the 3060.
Looks like it's a solid budget GPU... if available around msrp. I assume it's a temporary option for who needs a totally new gaming PC without any used parts ,willing to play non cutting edge well played games only. fair enough, I guess?
Could you test the best slim 120mm fan? I saw Arctic released a new variant of their P12 called the P12 slim and I would like to see it against other competitors.
Its definitely a lot cheaper in reality as the 3050 currently is selling for 320 usd while the 3060 is selling for 650 usd. And it is actually cheaper than what the 6500xt costs
Normal people don't manually change dlss versions in games, so doing so and calling it "stock" comparisons would be just as silly as reviewing this with a maximized overclock.
The great upgrade of my gtx 980 is coming ^^ Do I need sth more than rtx 3050 for video editing in Premiere Pro, n sometimes After Effects for Rotobrush and 3d camera track functions? Using 10 bit 4k h265 video files of a7sIII on my projects
Because of price, every card is a joke these days. Glad I bought a 1080ti when it was only 600$... there still isn't anything that's worth replacing it for unless I want to spend over 2000$... which I don't.
This is the first card in my country that is being sold 10% above the msrp, right now i could buy 3 3050's for the price of a single 3060, above that 2 of these cards costs around 1 gtx 1660S.
Seeing how our recently broken GTX 1660 Super bought at MSRP in 2020 still fare up pretty well with recently released cards makes me want to bury myself
It's a little bit sad that a new generation graphics card is comparable to a 3 years old graphics card of the same price like the 1660s (in theory the same price), but at least the 3050 is compatible with dlss so hopefully it's a better option in the long term (i mean that it will hopefully age way better).
comparing rtx3050 with 1660 super, rtx2060, and rx6600 is really just purposely looking for problem for the rtx3050.. why not compare with with rtx3090 while youre at it. you should compare with gtx1650, 1650 super, rx5500 xt or 6500xt, huge difference and fair
Honestly might get this card. I wanted a 1660s, but it's now $700. I only want high fps in esports games, and only need 30fps in other games. good upgrade from my gtx 580.
Looking to do a first sffpc (overall) build and wondering if you have any recommendations on a case? I'd like to get a 3070 and Amy 5600x or 5800x in it and have it small enough to carry on a plane. Ok if it's a little bit of a hassle to carry on as it wouldn't be too frequent
I get the comparisons to older cards but at the moment with the market situation this is great value and who knows how long it will be before we can start buying gpus at msrp
I found one at $249 at a microcenter in Chicago 🖤🖤 works perfect for me and it’s much better than my broken 5600xt AMD card. I game on 1080 and mid/high and not interested ray tracing
Here the 3060 isn't going for less than 750-800 If I can buy the 3050 at 350-400 it's quite a good option and I'm looking forward to seeing it at that price maximum
well, unfortunately you won't. this card is already going for double it's MSRP and there are deadass like 5 websites that even offer it. this is just ridiculous at this point like unless you wanna spend twice the amount of money or get second hand parts, you were not able to upgrade your PC the past 2 years.
I have 780Ti which is fairly similar card, I couldn't hold off anymore and snatched 3050 when found at msrp. Our cards suck at DX12 and can't properly run some modern games even @ low settings. Look at RDR2 or Cyberpunk, these are known to have drastically lower performance on older cards that are regarded as power wise similar to a modern counterpart.
I bought a 2060 Super from PCCG for $750aud.... 24 months ago. I thought I had fucked up, seeing all the Turing cards selling for $500-1300 used right before Ampere launched.
You compare $ but also USA inflated the $ by like 40% in last 2 years so they basically want to give budget card with less performance but still able to play games, it's the same as company selling you bag of chips instead of 200g now only 185g to keep the 3$ price tag
ah yes another gpu released that instantly goes for twice its list price at least. at this point the market is just ironic, nvidia and amd can literally do whatever they want like imagine a car producer like Toyota making a car with an MSRP for 20k but you can only find it for 40k+ right after launch. tf is the point of this
when nvidia presented 3050, so i planned to take it with 12100f, lets wait for price range, if it will be around 300-350 that will be fine, if above 400, its better to take 6600 which near to rtx 3060